Incumbent President Dilma Rousseff pulled ahead again in a new poll ahead of Brazil's presidential election and she appears to be the favorite to win Sunday's runoff although the vote is still too close to call. Read full article
Another dramatic poll showing the smiling incumbent well ahead. How convenient. Apparently that means we should all stay home Sunday, watch novelas, and not even bother to vote. The outcome is so clear in favor of Dizzy D, right ? So why even bother.
That nonsense may work up North in other countries, but here we are required to vote. The use of polls is a form of psychological bribery: Come on Amigos, be on the winning side, the election outcome is already concluded for Dilma.
Well, guess again. I'm voting, but not by the polls.
Datafolha is a polling company that belongs to the Folha de São Paulo media group. The PT gave them the right to print all the paperwork necessary for the ENEM exams - big contract, involves millions - and in exchange, goes without saying, the Folha de São Paulo will say absolutely nothing bad about the PT....and go as far as manipulating polls in order to influence the so-called 'undecided'...Datafolha polls in the first round predicted that Dilma would win, hands down....they were off by 'only' 7 percentage points.
@2 Chris
damned right....all funded by the taxpayer. Last resort ? I'd welcome back the military, with open arms !
Dilma numerically, legally, politically, morally and ethically way ahead of Neves in Thinks* poll..
* (Mr. Think has call it right on every South American democratic election in the last 20 - 25 years...)
Politically, yes.
Numerically, it is questionable ( for the reasons that Jack Bauer has detailed about conflict of interests with the PT and the Datafolha contracts.
But morally, and ethically, absolutely not. The scale of corruption, and the scale of outright theft of public funds with our current government and PT connivance revealed by investigations here is staggering.
More and more rumours that the results of the polls which were published last Monday, after the Presidential debate on Sunday night, were manipulated... and continue to be so, by Datafolha, who are in the pockets of the PT. Reports say that Datafolha received US$ 83 million to lie in order to favour PT.
Latest polls, today, from a couple of (truly) indepenent polling companies, shows Aécio with roughly 55% of the valid votes, versus Dilma's 45%. At this point it is not easy to determine exactly where the truth lies, but given the PT's penchant for lying through their teeth, I'd say that fatty will lose. Tonight we have another Presidential debate, and again, it is rumoured that Aécio will drop a bombshell on Dilma's lap, whereby all the corruption going on in Petrobrás was not only fully known to Dilma and to Lula, but they were commanding the whole scheme.....as per a report just published in Revista Veja...let's wait 'n see..
Charges and countercharges. Dilma was asked questions by Neves including Petrobras, but didn't answer anything directly.
How does she feel about José Dirceu, the convicted mastermind of the Mensalão scandal ? He was punished and sent to prison came the not very accurate reply from Dilma.
In fact José Dirceu is sitting at home by the pool on house arrest, so no one here really believes that to be true. All got a pass using one excuse or another.
There were 70 voters in the audience that had bee brought in from around the country. Of that group 10 had questions, one in particular about Neves maintaining the education and social programs such as Bolsa Familia.
One fact was brought up that had significance: Of all states here in Brasil, the highest achievement in Education results has been found to be Minas Gerais.
The home state of candidate Aécio Neves, and former Governor.
Anyone with half a brain will have concluded that Aécio was, besides more coherent in his arguments, in total control of the debate. Dilma , once again, got lost in her thoughts, and was inacaple of concluding many of her ideas, and more than once confirmed that her brain is not particularly quick on the uptake ...e.g., when a lady - an unemployed Economist of 54 yrs old - from the group of 'undecided' voters, invited to the debate, asked Dilma what she intended doing regarding the lack of employment opportunities in Brazil for older people with higher education, Dilma came out with the following 'pearl' : go and do a course at the SENAI ......It happens that the SENAI (a free educational service provided by the National Industry Board) offers basic professionalizing courses for young people trying to enter the work market...besides Dilma's not answering the question, 'her' answer was plain stupid....there were several moments when people couldn't help but laugh at Dilma's pathetic answers...
The bombshell I mentioned in my #7, above, was mentioned, and with great emphasis.....Dilma, visibly uncomfortable, denied any wrongdoing, even after her admitting - only a few days ago - that money had been deviated from Petrobrás to finance her campaign in 2010. This woman has got to go !
Now, some fresh news : shortly after the debate, a group of vandals, fanatic PT supporters, emptied a truckload of garbage in the entrance of the Editora Abril - the publisher of VEJA magazine - and painted anti-Aécio slogans all over the Company's nameplates...says a lot for the PT's (in)tolerance of free speech...especially when it's the truth uncovering their dirty corruption.
Dilma when asked questions, kept answering what she will do in the future (which anyone can say they will do ), Thus, no actual answer of the question.
Yet the questions had to do with her past decrees and decisions. In English I believe this translates to I'm gonna ..., as in I'm gonna be gone.
You both win!
Congratulations to you both.
Think, your socialist candidate wins....good for you!
Jack, take heart, the worst scenario would be for the right to win this election. Serious studies show that Brazil is headed for a severe economic readjustment due to the World Cup, the Olympics and the downturn of oil coupled with other factors that will punish Brazil for at least the next three years.
Hit bottom first, then the right can rebuild. Brazil will probably crash....
BTW Think, my doctor has released me to return to single malts, or any other damn thing I wish. I lift one respectfully to you in the twilight...
@13 BOTINHO.....que MERDA….mesmo !!!!
@14 Captain
Just simple computers....can go bust at any time...they get the counting job done very quickly, but in the last election (2010, when the fat B was elected for the first time), several experts claimed that these 'computers', like any other, could be fiddled with to produce results different to what the voter selected ....but it was never investigated..
Petrobrás shares down again, this time ANOTHER 14%....soon their net value is going to be negative....suppose can always use them for bumf..
@15 Chicureo
The only positive side to the fat B having won, is that when Brazil hits rock-bottom, it'll be on her watch......It doesn't really affect me personally, but it will affect the country ; now, I just hope that things get bad really quickly, and that all the idiots who supported her, live to regret it.
Even with Dilma’s (slim) victory, the PT lost influence. She got about 73 mil votes, versus Aécio’s 69 mil. Difference of only 4 million. If one were to remove the 30 million free-loaders who get the “bolsa família”, from the equation, Aécio would have won by 26 million votes. Considering that those 30 million people are totally irrelevant when it comes down to being productive, that means that the majority who are capable of thinking for themselves, voted against Dilma. The ironic thing is that while 90% of the Bolsa Família recipients are located up north/northeast, where they worship Dilma, it still doesn’t stop them from migrating to the southern State of SP, the PSDB stronghold, where they know things work much better than in their home States.. All I can say is that if they re-elected Dilma, it must be because they all think she’s wonderful, so as far as I’m concerned, they can all go to hell.
@18 Geoff
Exactly....and Aécio must be chewing his insides out for taking Minas for granted. It could have made all the difference. So could have SP, where 20 % of voters abstained from voting in the 2nd round. Moral of the story ? if voting IS obligatory, you should vote, because you can be sure the Petistas will do whatever it takes to ensure victory. Hope the abstainers have learned their lesson.
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Oct 23rd, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another dramatic poll showing the smiling incumbent well ahead. How convenient. Apparently that means we should all stay home Sunday, watch novelas, and not even bother to vote. The outcome is so clear in favor of Dizzy D, right ? So why even bother.
That nonsense may work up North in other countries, but here we are required to vote. The use of polls is a form of psychological bribery: Come on Amigos, be on the winning side, the election outcome is already concluded for Dilma.
Well, guess again. I'm voting, but not by the polls.
I bet the bribe money is flowing all over Brazil.
Oct 23rd, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0The PT can't afford somebody investigating any further.
Datafolha is a polling company that belongs to the Folha de São Paulo media group. The PT gave them the right to print all the paperwork necessary for the ENEM exams - big contract, involves millions - and in exchange, goes without saying, the Folha de São Paulo will say absolutely nothing bad about the PT....and go as far as manipulating polls in order to influence the so-called 'undecided'...Datafolha polls in the first round predicted that Dilma would win, hands down....they were off by 'only' 7 percentage points.
Oct 23rd, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Chris
damned right....all funded by the taxpayer. Last resort ? I'd welcome back the military, with open arms !
Dilma numerically, legally, politically, morally and ethically way ahead of Neves in Thinks* poll..
Oct 23rd, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0* (Mr. Think has call it right on every South American democratic election in the last 20 - 25 years...)
@ 4 Lunatic
Oct 23rd, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why have you NEVER got anything else right?
Ola Think -
Oct 23rd, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Politically, yes.
Numerically, it is questionable ( for the reasons that Jack Bauer has detailed about conflict of interests with the PT and the Datafolha contracts.
But morally, and ethically, absolutely not. The scale of corruption, and the scale of outright theft of public funds with our current government and PT connivance revealed by investigations here is staggering.
Time for a change.
More and more rumours that the results of the polls which were published last Monday, after the Presidential debate on Sunday night, were manipulated... and continue to be so, by Datafolha, who are in the pockets of the PT. Reports say that Datafolha received US$ 83 million to lie in order to favour PT.
Oct 24th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Latest polls, today, from a couple of (truly) indepenent polling companies, shows Aécio with roughly 55% of the valid votes, versus Dilma's 45%. At this point it is not easy to determine exactly where the truth lies, but given the PT's penchant for lying through their teeth, I'd say that fatty will lose. Tonight we have another Presidential debate, and again, it is rumoured that Aécio will drop a bombshell on Dilma's lap, whereby all the corruption going on in Petrobrás was not only fully known to Dilma and to Lula, but they were commanding the whole scheme.....as per a report just published in Revista Veja...let's wait 'n see..
The Debate tonight:
Oct 25th, 2014 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Charges and countercharges. Dilma was asked questions by Neves including Petrobras, but didn't answer anything directly.
How does she feel about José Dirceu, the convicted mastermind of the Mensalão scandal ? He was punished and sent to prison came the not very accurate reply from Dilma.
In fact José Dirceu is sitting at home by the pool on house arrest, so no one here really believes that to be true. All got a pass using one excuse or another.
There were 70 voters in the audience that had bee brought in from around the country. Of that group 10 had questions, one in particular about Neves maintaining the education and social programs such as Bolsa Familia.
One fact was brought up that had significance: Of all states here in Brasil, the highest achievement in Education results has been found to be Minas Gerais.
The home state of candidate Aécio Neves, and former Governor.
Anyone with half a brain will have concluded that Aécio was, besides more coherent in his arguments, in total control of the debate. Dilma , once again, got lost in her thoughts, and was inacaple of concluding many of her ideas, and more than once confirmed that her brain is not particularly quick on the uptake ...e.g., when a lady - an unemployed Economist of 54 yrs old - from the group of 'undecided' voters, invited to the debate, asked Dilma what she intended doing regarding the lack of employment opportunities in Brazil for older people with higher education, Dilma came out with the following 'pearl' : go and do a course at the SENAI ......It happens that the SENAI (a free educational service provided by the National Industry Board) offers basic professionalizing courses for young people trying to enter the work market...besides Dilma's not answering the question, 'her' answer was plain stupid....there were several moments when people couldn't help but laugh at Dilma's pathetic answers...
Oct 25th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bombshell I mentioned in my #7, above, was mentioned, and with great emphasis.....Dilma, visibly uncomfortable, denied any wrongdoing, even after her admitting - only a few days ago - that money had been deviated from Petrobrás to finance her campaign in 2010. This woman has got to go !
Now, some fresh news : shortly after the debate, a group of vandals, fanatic PT supporters, emptied a truckload of garbage in the entrance of the Editora Abril - the publisher of VEJA magazine - and painted anti-Aécio slogans all over the Company's nameplates...says a lot for the PT's (in)tolerance of free speech...especially when it's the truth uncovering their dirty corruption.
I have done a poll of all thinking Brasilians - the result is a certain win for Aécio.
Oct 25th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The key word in the poll was 'Thinking'.
GeoffWardz -
Oct 25th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I THINK .... I will . . .
Jack Bauer -
Well said.
Dilma when asked questions, kept answering what she will do in the future (which anyone can say they will do ), Thus, no actual answer of the question.
Yet the questions had to do with her past decrees and decisions. In English I believe this translates to I'm gonna ..., as in I'm gonna be gone.
Seems elections are not going so well. 66 Arrested and 1 shot and 1700 polling machines replaced.......with what....Dilma ballots.
Oct 26th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 051.45% Dilma & PT.
Oct 26th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Merda mesmo.
What was the deal with the broken and replaced voting machines?
Oct 26th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think and Jack
Oct 27th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You both win!
Congratulations to you both.
Think, your socialist candidate wins....good for you!
Jack, take heart, the worst scenario would be for the right to win this election. Serious studies show that Brazil is headed for a severe economic readjustment due to the World Cup, the Olympics and the downturn of oil coupled with other factors that will punish Brazil for at least the next three years.
Hit bottom first, then the right can rebuild. Brazil will probably crash....
BTW Think, my doctor has released me to return to single malts, or any other damn thing I wish. I lift one respectfully to you in the twilight...
Dilma's victory parade has started in the Brazilian stock market........already down almost 2900 points (-5.5%)
Oct 27th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 BOTINHO.....que MERDA….mesmo !!!!
Oct 27th, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Captain
Just simple computers....can go bust at any time...they get the counting job done very quickly, but in the last election (2010, when the fat B was elected for the first time), several experts claimed that these 'computers', like any other, could be fiddled with to produce results different to what the voter selected ....but it was never investigated..
Petrobrás shares down again, this time ANOTHER 14%....soon their net value is going to be negative....suppose can always use them for bumf..
@15 Chicureo
The only positive side to the fat B having won, is that when Brazil hits rock-bottom, it'll be on her watch......It doesn't really affect me personally, but it will affect the country ; now, I just hope that things get bad really quickly, and that all the idiots who supported her, live to regret it.
Even with Dilma’s (slim) victory, the PT lost influence. She got about 73 mil votes, versus Aécio’s 69 mil. Difference of only 4 million. If one were to remove the 30 million free-loaders who get the “bolsa família”, from the equation, Aécio would have won by 26 million votes. Considering that those 30 million people are totally irrelevant when it comes down to being productive, that means that the majority who are capable of thinking for themselves, voted against Dilma. The ironic thing is that while 90% of the Bolsa Família recipients are located up north/northeast, where they worship Dilma, it still doesn’t stop them from migrating to the southern State of SP, the PSDB stronghold, where they know things work much better than in their home States.. All I can say is that if they re-elected Dilma, it must be because they all think she’s wonderful, so as far as I’m concerned, they can all go to hell.
The big surprise was not the North East, but Minas
Oct 28th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Geoff
Oct 28th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly....and Aécio must be chewing his insides out for taking Minas for granted. It could have made all the difference. So could have SP, where 20 % of voters abstained from voting in the 2nd round. Moral of the story ? if voting IS obligatory, you should vote, because you can be sure the Petistas will do whatever it takes to ensure victory. Hope the abstainers have learned their lesson.
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