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Argentina's holdout dispute spills into the White House: CFK sends letter to Obama questioning Ambassador Soderberg

Friday, October 31st 2014 - 21:21 UTC
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In a harsh letter, released on Friday, Argentine President Cristina Fernandez urged US President Barack Obama to explain whether ”Nancy Soderberg, the person you have appointed as Chair of the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB), which reports directly to the Government of the United States of America, is also the Co-Chair of the American Task Force Argentina (ATFA), an entity specifically created to attack and slander the Argentine Republic and its President.” Read full article


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  • Think

    Excellent move...

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar


    Oct 31st, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    she ain't gunna like this either:-

    oh dear, oh dear... it just isn't a good week to argentinian is it?


    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Surely she could have checked herself or got one of her minions to do it - lazy cow, expecting the President of the U.S. to ring up Nancy himself.

    What a way to win friends and influence people! The only Top Gear in Argentina is the stuff she is smoking

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Feathers McGraw

    And the lady takes careful aim at her plastic foot ...

    [Insert 7 hours of rabbiting Spanish expressing considerable pain here]

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Excellent move Think? Hardly. Cannot see Obama changing a 2 year old appointment because CFK has finally noticed that she doesn't like it.

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    And this women( CFK ) is a president of a democratic country, she should stick to trying to run the country, f******g pathetic. PMSL

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    At least Ambassador Soderberg has credentials which can be verified. She doesn't have to fake a law degree, Ambassador Soderberg has written authoritative papers on matters of foreign policy.

    In other words, Ambassador Soderberg is an expert, whilst CFK is merely a moron.

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (6) Mr. Lorton

    Excellent move indeed...
    Has already served it's political purpose irrespective of Ms. Soderberg continued employment....

    By the way, how's that rice vine project of yours going?

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    OMG how embarrassing!

    Imagine having a laughing stock as your country's leader because she degrades herself by writing letters like this.

    “...grave implications for relations between our two countries”

    Like what?

    Oct 31st, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    President Obama, you have been warned! Your move.


    Oct 31st, 2014 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    This pain in the arse certainly pushes the point does she not,

    lets hope the point is pushed back in her direction..

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    More distraction.

    rotting roadkill, pay your debts.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Dear Cristina

    Thank you ever so much for your letter.

    In response I would ask you to pay your debts.

    Now I must rush as Top Gear is on TV.

    Yours affectionately

    pp Barry

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    “Has already served it's political purpose irrespective of Ms. Soderberg continued employment....”

    Probably true, insofar as histrionic posturing for the benefit of the domestic audience and gringophobes everywhere is the political purpose.

    Meanwhile, the real world laughs

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 9 Lunatic

    When I read the letter, purported as written by TMBOA herself, I knew it was not so.

    The usual argie DEMANDS have given way to implied threats and it is clear that someone else, another bat-shit mad argie has written this letter. AND, then it came to me: it was you, wasn’t it.

    No need to deny it, the letter has all the hallmarks so easily recognised as being “The Hand of Lunatic”.

    You know what I mean don’t you? Poorly thought out, seemingly lucid but always wrong in fact and malevolent in nature, it is undoubtedly a Lunatic masterpiece.

    How many choripans and cans of coke did you get for that exercise in futility on behalf of TMBOA or are you expecting Gollum to have a medal struck in your ‘honour’?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think


    We got “Madeleine” fired a couple of weeks ago....

    Let's wait and see about “Nancy”... ...; maybe?

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I expect that letter got filed immediately...
    ... in the shredder.

    Is Crass-tina jealous that Nancy is more powerfull than her? What is it with all these stupid 'demands'? No-one cares outside of Argentina. Must be playing to the domestic audience. TMBOA obviously thinks her words carry more weight than they actually do. She is just making herself look ridiculous.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    17. Of course Obama administration appointed her.

    The retarded attention whore thinks she can go and tell another sovereign country- not just any country- what to do. She is ever more insane

    The MercoPress letter is far more compressed. She even said to Obama what to do in his own country, she also mentioned gun trafficking, Mexico and extracted previous Obama comments on fiscal paradises and bitched about Elliot Management beign based in one.

    WTF?? Just pathetic

    As I see it the most problematic of all this is; One day you bitch against America and imply that they are after you and “if something happens to me, look North” i.e CIA job) and the next day you are demanding favours of the very same administration??? If she thinks she can pull this crap off with the most powerful country on earth what does it leave us regular Argentines with??

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • owl61

    @17 I don't enjoy watching CFK and her moronic and ill-chosen henchmen, e.g, G. Moreno, Anibel Fernandez, Kicillof, Capitanich, run the country into the ground, but trying to defend her administration's efficacy is laughable. Why not talk about Argentina's wine, tango, polo team,or beef if you feel compelled to praise something Argentinian?

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    The full text in all its glory, about the same level as a Malvinista Mercopress post.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Oh dear. I expect that the unpaid White House intern in charge of Argentine affairs thought it was a hoax when they opened the letter.
    Until someone older and wiser was forced to point out that this is SOP for the mad cow.

    I truly feel some sympathy for the Argentine people. This must be so embarrassing.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hurricane

    The nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind. Drowning in self importance is no way to go through life!

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Remember suzzie this twat is a pimple on my ass.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hurricane

    Is this love letter in English because Obama no peeky pani.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    ““it would have grave implications for relations between our two countries.”” Really? Like what, for instance?
    *snort* I nearly spilt my tea all over the keyboard!
    She so funny!
    Argentina, the gift that keeps on giving. Everyday a new hysterically stupid statement!
    *still chuckling*
    As Isolde once said, Cristina is the best General the Falklands could wish for. Now she is trying to wind-up Uncle Sam!
    I struggle to believe that Cristina honestly thinks the outside world takes her seriously. She can't, can she?

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    All this will do is get the hag dis-invited to world events.
    She is one uppity crazy old hag.
    She'll be lucky if she's not in jail in 5 yrs.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I am sure that after reading this letter, US DEFCON was kicked up a notch and Obama called for an emergency JCoS meeting. I'm also sure he called his best speech writer to compose an appropriate response......he's where they stand so far:

    Dear Madam President;

    With all due shit and bark at a full moon..........

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    We should all thank CFK. The one thing that can be said without any fear of contradiction is that once an argie is 'affronted', whatever 'affronted' them is true. Or so close to true as to be indistinguishable. Now that her rambling 'letter' is in the public domain, we can see its stupidity. So Ms Soderberg has conducted a 'defamatory and slanderous campaign'? Prove it. No examples of lies. Oh yes, argieland has a 'sovereign right'. Where's the international law that says argieland has a 'sovereign right' to rip people off to the tune of 70%? And do it by force majeure! Is she complaining that the giant blow-up rat didn't have her face on it? At what point are argie elections to be considered to be 'democratic'. Somehow I don't think that the videos of votes being bought and sold actually qualifies argieland for holding 'democratic' elections. What's wrong with identifying argieland as being a 'narco-state'. It IS a narco-state. Everyone knows it. And the arms are part of it. Quebracho and Campora are both into it. All argie air travel companies are part of it. Bent money out. Drugs in any direction. And where arms are manufactured is irrelevant. It's who sells what to whom. Argieland desperately needs dollars. And the currency of the arms trade is.......? And who is this dingbat to say what is or is not inadmissable? Especially in view of her own criminal activities. Why is argieland in the G20? It isn't a major economy. Let's spend the next few months agitating/lobbying for argieland to be kicked out. What does it know about running an economy? It's a brain-dead, paraplegic basket case with delusions. It has no valid place in the world.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Didnt the witch lady try the same tactic with Cameron at a G20 meeting a year or two back?

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yes I seem to recall Cameron giving Kirchner an ear full and she was in

    “The translator was struggling to catch up with her comments, but British sources characterised her response as ”ramblings about Spanish headlines, the UN and the Malvinas”

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @21 HasN
    Thanks for the link. I suggest others read it too.

    She is the Prime-Troll of Argentina. Starts off on one topic, then starts slating another country and telling them what to do, then veers off into another theme about Mexicans and guns, then some 'whataboutery', and closes with the classic smug 'it's not us, it's you, it's all your fault'.

    She could give classes on trollery.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    stupid bitch seems to think she can abuse anyone and get away with it.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ck

    argieland don't need the usa or the uk

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (33) Falkland

    Please show some more respect for Ms. Lisa Watson...
    She ain't stupid...

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    At least she admitted being Argentine.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    It would have grave implications for relations between our two countries.”

    The point being,
    We know what the Americans can do to Argentina,

    The question is, what the mighty powerful Argentina can do to the Americans to punish them,

    No doubt all you argie experts will enlighten us,
    Or keep

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 37 Briton
    “Or keep quiet”

    Is that a deafening silence I hear?


    Nov 01st, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    They have nothing to

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    The US is aware that she is unstable and undergoing treatment.
    They will make allowances.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Just like We are aware that these argie bloggers are unstable
    and will make

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen


    Nov 01st, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Remember when the king of Spain told Chavez to just shut up...well its time someone anyone anywhere said the same to La Loca K. She really must be on some strong drugs....other than botox that is.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    What an awkward letter. I am sure Obama got a one line summary.

    Can't wait to see what stunts she will pull at the G20 in Brisbane. She is seeming more unhinged than usual.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I'm sure Obama didn't even lift an eyelid....

    Brisbane will be fun, with all the delagates desperately signalling to their aides that they suddenly need a 'bathroom break'...

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes and as CFK is a monolingual turnip, I do believe the Australian government has installed mute buttons in the translation headphones.

    The Lucky Country indeed.

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    * chuckle*

    Nov 01st, 2014 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    #44 Can't wait to see what stunts she will pull at the G20 in Brisbane. She is seeming more unhinged than usual.”

    She should be banned from attending the G20 meeting along with the rest of her government.

    As a country in default of its bond payments, what has Argentina got to offer the world economy ?

    But she and her mate Putin can team up and keep each other company.

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Call me psychotic, but for me the Cold War never ended. Really looking forward to the Denouement.

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    What a shame United States Air Force hasn't appeared in this thread. It would be fascinating to learn what a US serviceman thinks of the tone and content of Cristina's letter to his President. I wonder how he thinks Obama should respond?

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I don't agree in banning CFK or Putin. As despicable as they are, as both humans and leaders, they are the leaders of their countries.

    The G20 is representative of the world's largest economies, powerful and influential countries and regionally dispersed nations.

    When the G20 formed, Argentina was seen as fitting into one of those categories. I don't think it now does and only by coming to these fora will Argentineans see this.

    CFK is always clearly out of place at these gatherings. She uses them as a soapbox for subjects that have no impact on regulating and stabilising the world economy.

    The more Argentina is seen at these gatherings, the more the squalor and ineptitude of CFK's rule is highlighted.

    Australia is the largest, most powerful and prosperous nation of the Southern Hemisphere. Argentina's leader will see what could have been.

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    #51 Anglotino
    Functions of the G 20 Group of nations include discussing ways to strengthen the global economy, the reform of international financial institutions, improve financial regulation and implement the key economic reforms that are needed in each member economy. Being a permanent member of a premier forum like the G20 implies that the country is a major player amoung world economies. A member should be suitable and eligible to belong.

    Has Argentina demonstrated the sort of leadership and maturity that makes it eligible to sit at this table?

    Given the current state of Argentine economy and its status as a default debtor (self-inflicted) Argentina is demonstrably in- eligible to be included in a group such as the G20. Surprisingly, Spain is not a permanent member (although it does have the status of a permanent invitee.) So if Spain is not a permanent member how does Argentina qualify?

    I take your point about regional inclusions, but a country with a failing economy brought about by the wilful mismanagement of its Government should not be indulged in the way you are suggesting; Argentina’s attendance will not be an epiphany for them but will only serve to perpetuate the delusions they harbor regarding Argentina’s position in and importance to the world.

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @51. Don't agree. Argieland was included so that powerful nations could get an idea how poor countries might be affected.

    Argieland and CFK see it as some sort of accolade or acceptance. The idea of argieland somehow being shamed into improving is nonsensical. Argieland has no concept of real 'shame'. Take a look. Has argieland ever apologised for invading the Falkland Islands? Makes the supposed return to 'democracy' look a bit sick, doesn't it? Argieland operates sanctions against the Falkland Islands. Is that compliant with the UN Charter? Is it 'democratic'? It is, demonstrably, right for people to have self-determination. Honest people bend over backwards to enable self-determination. What does argieland do? It demands that the entire world adopts ITS interpretation of a single phrase that, by virtue of considerable stretching, supports its colonial, imperialist aspirations. Who's got 50 years to spare? Go through all official UN documents. List the ones where 'people' cannot be replaced by 'population'. Then do the reverse. If the difference was important, why didn't the UN use the term 'indigenes'?

    Argieland deliberately STEALS money. What did Kirchner (deceased) do with the million dollars from the Santa Cruz treasury? Is it part of the 16 million dollars that Kirchner (slag) now has? Bigger and better. STEAL 92 billion dollars. Repay only 27.6 billion dollars. Must try that with my bank manager. “I owe you 20,000 pounds plus interest. I'll repay £6,000 plus interest or you get nothing”. Think I'll get away with it? Just as a clincher, I'll say that my 'development' mustn't be interrupted and that I should have everything I want. My eyes being huge“.

    Sorry, argieland has no 'shame'. Kick it back down to where it belongs. In the sewer. In fact, if it arrives at Brisbane, make it public. ”Sorry, you're not on the list. What are you anyway”? Televise them crawling back to the airport. And make them walk!

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pontefractious

    She pretty much accused the US of trying to assassinate her - now she is concerned about making relations between the country worse ?

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “it would have grave implications for relations between our two countries.”

    Dear Christina,

    I was extremely shocked to receive your letter as it omitted “The Malvinas” and “Colonial English Pirates.”

    Are you feeling OK?

    I was going to ask for your help against ISIS in the form of your Super Gaucho troops but assume that is now out of the question?


    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Just another smokescreen for more confiscations. ;)

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Bombast and Botox begin with the same letter

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Just another smokescreen for more confiscations. ;)

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    58 Turnip

    Just another smoke screen for your

    You are ridiculously OFF TOPIC.

    Please tell us what Starbucks Corp. skirting taxes has to do with

    ArgenTina's Victim Impact Statement from CFK ???

    Right, nothing.

    - CFK openly threatens the US
    - CFK tries to dictate Economic Policy
    - CFK DEMANDS ( ho ho) that Obsma personally intervene/interfere with the US Judiciary and disregard Int'l Law
    -CFK tries to dictate who is/ is not privy to US Gov. Intelligence/information
    -CFK tries to dictate which organisations US appointees can associate with
    -CFK tries to tell the US Ambassador how to behave and how to think

    If she doesn't like the Ambassador, she can kick her out - how's that gonna wash with the Americans?

    They probably passed that letter around the State Dept. with a yellow post-it attached, “ Bat-Sh!t Crazy!!”

    Nov 02nd, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    If Nancy Soderberg is associated with a lobby group run by a foreign corporation then that would present a serious conflict of interest with respect to any position she may hold in the service of the US government.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    ”The American Task Force Argentina (ATFA) is an alliance of organizations united for a just and fair reconciliation of the Argentine government’s 2001 debt default and subsequent restructuring. Our members work with lawmakers, the media, and other interested parties to encourage the United States government to vigorously pursue a negotiated settlement with the Argentine government in the interests of American stakeholders.”

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    61 Poppy

    Thanks for that ATFA post.
    Very clearly there is no conflict of interest.

    Nancy Sodererg is working for the good of the US. That's her job, any way you look at it.

    Sorry Argentina.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Predictably, the Old Wives Club is full of angst at this story.
    How dares she? The head of a developing country addressing the President of the World Power as an equal? (Sounds indicating supreme displeasure and incredulity)
    Who she thinks she is? Oh my gosh--where the world is going? And so on and so on and so on.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    A little bit of gringo-baiting might well buy Cristina some time among the dumber elements, but it's going to do the rest of you no good at all.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    63 sure.. like we could GAF !

    A lot of whining from a nobody - and that goes for Kristina as well.


    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Good to see Proctor and Gamble are finished in Argentina. Good opportunity for Unilever to sell even more of its superior, though similar type products in the Country. Obviously Mrs Kirchner is a discerning investor and a Unilever shareholder.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    The only thing seen in her letter to Obama is a Comedy Central story line. Her telling Obama about his political appointees is tantamount to Obama or Cameron telling Hagbag of Buenos Aires to stop destroying Argentina.

    The P&G story was amazing. Quote:

    “The alleged fraud involves shipments of razors and other hygiene products.” for razors........asslips kirchner is bringing them to Islam anyway. The hombres can now grow beards.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Seems Mrs Kirchner has it in for the USA.
    May not be particularly wise but certainly brave or foolhardy given Argentina's financial state. Perhaps China will provide more support in return for Argentine Natural resources.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pontefractious

    Should we assume that Mrs Kirchner does not use Proctor and Gamble products ?

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Just the soap.......she love the razors.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland

    Um. Notwithstanding all the other rather stupid aspects of this letter...

    When a head of state writes a letter to another head of state, one does not use pejoratives and “fade/cool” language.

    Her repeated use of “vulture” instead of “venture” is so childish that I cringed whenever I read it.

    Its use is only thought clever by left-wing radio talk show hosts and their callers still living in their mother’s basement.

    For the President of a nation to use that stupid term when writing in an official capacity to another President is ridiculous and ignorant and embarrassing.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    And they are still waiting for an answer...

    We have not received any formal response from the president of the United States,” Capitanich said to reporters today in his daily press briefing at the government house. “It will be officialy announced when –if– we receive an answer,” he added.


    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    To all the Yanks out there....

    Seems that we got Lyndon LaRouche on our ring corner....
    Don't really know if that's a blessing or a curse....

    Long live Platonism...
    Down with Aristotelianism...

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Mmmmmm he out of jail yet for stealing donations from people credit cards? That's one powerful corner Think!

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Could be worst....
    We could have got her!

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 74 Captain Poppy

    I have just wasted 15 minutes of my life researching Larouche.

    He’s a perfect fit for Lunatic: he’s 92 and not yet grown up. One of the reviews even refers to him as a lunatic.

    With him “in their corner” how can TDC fail?

    Ha, ha, ha, ha.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Wow. Lyndon LaRouche. “Mars Needs Women” back in the 80s. I thought he was dead, but if he says he supports what the K government is doing, that says it all. ;)

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Now we just need Rush Limbaugh.....
    And the White House Nigga to show some civility and answer the ladies letter....

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    It's only an argenteenagram. Maybe he'll tweet.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Wel..., well..., well...

    Rush Limbaugh hasn'call yet...
    But we just got this piece from the Wall Street Journal...
    The Nigga better answers that lady's letter..., pronto...

    -“- Ms. Soderberg couldn't be reached for comment -”-

    Chuckle chuckle...

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland


    I never voted for Obama and don't usually agree with his policies...

    But if you keep referring to the United States President as a Nigga, there will be a few folks who might want a chat with you.

    Make no mistake, these same folks can know exactly who you are and where you are.

    Nothing formal or anything... Just a little side trip...

    You just might want to re-Think that bit of racial insulting.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (81) Rick from Maryland

    Firstly, the current President of the USA is an Afro American..., “A Nigga” in colloquial American or..., as we say down here in Spanish, “Un Negro”...
    That's a fact, not an insult...

    Secondly..., all relevant actors in here know who I am... and where to find me...

    Thirdly, there are more than a dozen Anglo posters in here that, on a regular basis break national & international legislation by calling on terror attacks on the Argentinean population and the assassination of his leaders, especially our current President....

    Cut the bullshiat... And get that Nigga President of yours to be civil, follow protocol and answer our President...

    Cheers from El Think, Chubut, Patagonia Argentina...

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    Really scraping the barrel now. Things must be desperate.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Turnip @82

    Back in the real world... Turnip, try saying “Nigga” to a black man and see what reaction you get. Please, do it.

    I suppose you're feeling somewhat impotent these days.

    You've regressed to racial slurs and provocation on this thread, and a Whiney fail on the BBC thread - nothing to say that's relevant.

    Obama and Soderberg seem to be giving CFK's tantrum letter all the attention it deserves.

    How embarrassing for her, a very public childish rant from a Head of State to the POTUS, leading to what is inevitably, a now PUBLIC snubbing.

    The silence is deafening - not even an acknowledgment.

    Can't wait for her cringeworthy escalation of rhetoric, in Brisbane.

    Waiting to hear from the CFK / Kiciloff Booster Boy, EL Turnip.

    Nov 03rd, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (83)

    Yeahhhhhh..... desperate, indeed... Some of TODAY'S news...:

    Black market Dollar falling, falling & falling...:

    Imported oil 30% cheaper than last month...:

    Soy money pouring in our Central Bank...:

    2.2 billion dollars into our reserves for the sell of mobile telephone licenses...:

    Local stock exchange, up, up, up...:

    Principal Argie stock up, up, up at the NYSE...:


    Chuckle chuckle

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  • HansNiesund


    Gosh. Does this mean you're going to pay your debts?

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  • Troy Tempest

    86 Hans

    a real “Chuckle chuckle”!!

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  • Rick from Maryland

    @81 Think

    Then perhaps your understanding of American colloquial speech is at fault.

    Be clear. Unless you too are an American Black person, then your use of that term would very definatly earn you an ass whooping here in the states.

    Outside “ghetto talk”, it's univeraally regarded as a racial insult. Two ghetto talking guys can call each other a nigga and get away with it... Not so anyone else.

    What we all (Americans) agree on is that nigga is a short form of nigger.

    I hope you see the problem.

    For you to call President Obama a nigga is the same as calling him a nigger. That's fighting words.... And believe me. That's what you'd get.

    Now... If you simply kept to saying Obama was a rude, non-qualified, weak, left-wing idiot... 60% of us (Americans) would now agree.

    And... Notwithstanding what you may have heard from those who want to condemn the U.S., the vast majority of us do not take kindly to racists. The vast majority understood and agree with Martin Luther King who said to “judge a person not by the color of his skin, but the character of his heart”.

    So, I apoligize if I was a bit touchy... Cultural misunderstands suck.

    I'll call off the seals.

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  • HansNiesund


    Don't fall for it. His intent was and is to offend.

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  • Englander

    Thanks to their common Moorish ancestry, Spanish and Africans do have much in common. Nevertheless the use of the word “n----” is extremely offensive and you can bet your bottom black dollar that the cowardly Mr Think will keep himself safe and defer from addressing anybody in that way - face to face.

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  • ChrisR

    We must never forget that The Lunatic of ChewButt (El Think, except he is not equipped to do so) revels in winding everybody up who is “not in their corner”.

    If only he had ever been in a competitive fight he would realise how ridiculous that sounds. Any fighter caught in a corner is easy meat for a quick drubbing: the trick is to hold the centre ground, something he is incapable of doing even when it is the correct thing to do.

    Still, it keeps his febrile brain from going further into dementia.

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  • GeoffWard2

    Think #80

    You know the ethnicity of my partners past and present - Why do you do this when you know you offend me personally?
    I think you must have been a bit drunk.
    Apologies will be accepted.

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  • Chicureo


    Well, actually it's ok for blacks to use the. “Nigga” and “Nword” to describe themselves, but others apparently are not. Obama is exactly 50% white and 50% African. So why is he black? He's actually a mixed race.

    My point: ... it does not matter....

    What does (from both a conservative as well as liberal point of view is that he's way over his head in foreign policy. Just like CFK...

    A good day to you my friend.

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  • Rick from Maryland


    Think.... You there?!?



    Nov 04th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    94 Rick

    Is Think missing ? ? ? ...

    No, it's just Argenteeism - Trolls disappear after posting something outrageous and indefensible.

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  • Captain Poppy

    I am the farthest thing from PC, but I find the word nigga, nigger etc, etc repugnant and even more so from someone not of color. I'd love to see think tool around in Roxbury spouting that tune.

    They disappear because it's “de-briefing” time

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  • imoyaro

    Looks like here's all the answer she's gonna get...

    Nov 04th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Nice professional news release, in contrast to the “3rd Grader” letter from CFK!


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  • yankeeboy

    Think is trying to be funny and like Voice its fallen flat and he's embarrassed himself again.

    97. Slap. I don't know what this crazy dingbat thinks she is I think the lithium has eaten her brain.

    85. Those titles look good until you know why its happening. BTW car sales are off 40% this month, MFG down 6% and inflation at 50%.
    No matter how hard they try to control the stock market and Peso the fundamentals will always get back to being poorer and dumber next year.
    Also the U$2B they got for the 4G was paid in Arg U$ Denominated bonds. Nobody is going to give them U$ in cash. Nobody.

    Think is a loser. Even his 1/2 truths can't mask the stick coming out of BA.

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  • GeoffWard2

    'Even his 1/2 truths can't mask the stick coming out of BA.'

    I think you meant 'Stink' ... the smell of decay and putrefaction.

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  • Think

    What an humongous heap of faux righteous indignation!
    Where to begin?

    At comment Nr. (90)...? No, boring.

    At comment Nr. (91)...? Nope, boooring.

    At comment Nr. (92)...? Well Geoff, IF your partners name is Barak Obama AND if he was offended by the “ Nigga” word, I would, of course, apologise... Else not...
    By the way..., I quitted all organic solvents a couple of years ago...

    At comment Nr. (93)...? Mixed race allright, or as the weones jokingly put it down here...: Morocho de labios gruesos pá no decir Negro de m......
    Nice day to you too, Mr. Chicureo

    At comment Nr. (94)...? Yes.., Mr. Rick from Maryland... I'm here... How can I be of help?

    At comment Nr. (95)...? Nope, boooooring.

    At comment Nr. (96)...? Nope, boooooooring.

    At comment Nr. (97)...? Well, that spokesperson didn't answer any of Cristinas questions... Besides, that wasn't the White House Nigga, was it?

    At comment Nr. (98)...? Nope, boooooooooring

    At comment Nr. (99)...? Nope, boooooooooooring.

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  • yankeeboy

    Nope to what? I didn't ask any questions.

    Glug glug glug

    I hear they have to operate by cell phone light in BA hospitals now.


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  • HansNiesund


    “Besides, that wasn't the White House Nigga, was it?”

    Can we take from this usage you'd have no objection to the term “Casa Rosada Dago”, say, or similar?

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  • Troy Tempest

    Think can't ultimately back up his statements, nor can he answer charges - so he chooses to attempt a lazy dismissal.

    Sorry Think, a lot of flak, but no hits.

    It's not your fault - there is nothing you can say - only DISTRACTION is left.

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  • Pontefractious

    Why would he object ? They are all dagoes down there. It's like saying “my friend”. Actually, given that Argentine Spanish is the language richest in insults in the world (about the only thing they excell at other than making themselves look stupid to the rest of the world) you will find it hard to come up with anything evenly mildly offensive by comparison. Perhaps the thing that would upset her most would be to call her is a gringa, but that somehow reflects back on us so I would prefer that you didn't.

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  • imoyaro


    There's a reason why Argentines of African descent have gone from a sizable part of the population of the early republic to a third of a percent of the country's population, virtually “disappeared.” It's part of Drink's whole weltanschauung, like horses and booze. As his faux “hero,” Martin Fierro said before murdering one, “God made whites, Saint Peter made mulattos, the devil made blacks as the smut of Hell.”
    What else can we expect?

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  • Think

    Ignorant, brainwashed turnip at (106)

    If you actually had read the book instead of just a biased synopsis with a clear agenda, you would know that...:

    1) It was a fair duel..., with knives..., not a murder...
    2) Fierro regrets the deed and gives the Nigga a decent funeral...
    3) All in all a much fairer treatment than all those low hanging southern fruit ever got from the K.K.K. until the seventies.......
    Nineteen hundred seventies, that is....

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  • imoyaro

    I'm talking about you, Drink. You are the one that typed the words, I am just pointing out whence they come from. ;)

    Nov 04th, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    As a great Nigga once wrote...:
    Hit the road, Turnip...

    Nov 04th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Think is like a kid who just learned a new swear word. Like Voice when he's proven wrong he doubles down.
    Sign of an very dumb guy.
    Maybe drunk
    Certainly lonely.

    Argentina is trying to get the contempt charge reversed. Odd, I thought it didn't matter. I wonder why they are even bothering if it doesn't matter and has caused no problems.
    They'll never learn.

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  • Captain Poppy

    imoyaro....I tip my hat to you. When you can get someone to resort to insult and derogatory names, you've beaten sensible arguments out of them. Her's the only RG barely worth talking about His rhetoric is juvenile on his best day. If I had a heart I would probably feel sorry for him........but he is deserving of his life in Argentina.

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  • Heisenbergcontext

    @78 Think

    Jeremy Clarkson once, also, succumbed to the temptation of using the 'n' word. Perhaps you have more in common with that particular 'engrish' oaf than you realise...

    @93 Chicureo

    It's all about intent, otherwise it's just an arrangement of letters. I don't know why Think chose to use that term, but I can't think of a single good reason for it.

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  • Rick from Maryland

    Well. Here is something I'd like to ask Think to do for me.

    Tonight we are having elections in the US., Senators, Congressmen and Goveners.

    Local elections too!

    Well. I'm a local appointed executive. Appointed 2 years ago and I (and the local media) feel I've done a great job.

    But politics is apparantly a bitch.

    What I'm asking - Think - is for your well wishes. For me to continue to serve my neighbors as best I can.

    I can go back to the private sector... Get back a lot more income...

    But I truely love working my last few years befor I retire, helping make things better for those who are my neighbors.

    So. I ask Think.

    Can you toss me a prayer?

    Your Maryland buddy.

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (112) Heisenbergcontext
    You say...:
    “Perhaps you have more in common with that particular 'Engrish' oaf than you realise...”
    I say...:
    Don't we all?

    (113) Rick from Maryland
    I don't know about a “Prayer” but, if half of what you write above is true, you have my complete sympathy.
    Most things in life are “Politics”...
    And you know what they say...
    Life's a biatch...

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @114 Think

    “Don't we all?”

    I walked into that one didn't I? Doesn't make your provocation any less regrettable though.

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (115) Heisenbergcontext

    Regrettable...? Not at all...!
    As the Ol` Legion song goes...:
    Non, je ne regrette rien...

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @116 Think

    Always good to listen to Edith, so thanks for that. Still doesn't make your lapse any less distasteful.

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (117) No “Lapses” here...
    Just a mild provocation aimed at those “Westerners” that play “Mortally Offended” by the sheer uttering of the“ Nigga” word..., whilst they just shrug at their drones assasinating dozens of Sand-Niggas all over the World..., every day...

    Nov 05th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @118 Think

    Really? And that's the only way you could express your moral outrage? Riiiiiiiiiight...

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  • HansNiesund


    I'm sure Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi will be grateful for the support.

    Tobi needs to look to his laurels. I used to think it was he, the undisputed master of the shaky tangential ex post facto whatbaoutery self-justification.

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  • Think

    Not the only way... but considering the clientele of this forum..., appropriate enough.

    Turnip at (120)
    I'm sure Mr. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi couldn't care less about the ethical preoccupations of an old & humble Patagonian...

    As I'm positive he just luuuuvs when some heroic Anglo tween soldier blows away a whole Muslim family from the comfort of their Wichita, KS bunker...
    That guarantees him some 50,000 new acolytes...
    Each and every time...

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Don't think so, Think.
    Drone strikes work on the paradox principle. You kill the baddies and you make 50,000 new enemies.
    Either the US doesn't understand this, or they prefer to keep the Muslim community stoked up for the sake of their armaments industry.
    ... a better war strategy would be for all parties to agree to just use Bowie knives - up close and personal.

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  • Think

    (122) GeoffWard

    That`s not quite exact....
    Drone strikes work on the paradox principle... You kill one baddie SandNigga, you make 5 new enemies....
    You kill one goody SandNigga child, woman, elder (or a whole wedding party if one is lucky), you make 50,000 enemies...

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  • Captain Poppy

    Maybe we can start using them on latin nigga trolls from south america? A nigga's a nigga......but I think Latin Nigga's would be a funner kill. Oh I miss the fun days of the Army.

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    My enemy's enemy is my ethical preoccupation, is that it? I think your ethical preoccupations are probably rather different from Abu Bakr's, but at least you'd have anglophobia and misogyny in common.

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I love knowing he is an anglophob.....however I think he fears blacks more though.

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Poppy and Think.

    You both know my partners were and are black.
    I have asked you to stop offending me and my partners.
    Please do so, otherwise I shall have regularly use the Abuse function, and I will be significantly abusive to the pair of you.

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Come on boys....GeoffWard is on my good guys list, he is offended....
    Hardly worth offending one of the more reasoned posters....

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    oh Think is just obseesed by the balck arts. Didnt his alter ego Commander Dod have a dog called nigger?
    Yes Geoff I think the abuse button should have been used a while back and not just by you

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think


    Anglophobic, Moi...? that often ride the Patagonian steppes on an ol' faithful 3-speed Sturmey-Archer equipped Nottingham made black Tourist de Luxe...?

    Anglophobic, Moi...? that angle the Patagonian waters with them Perfect rods and reels from Alnwick...?

    Anglophobic, Moi...? No way, Jose...!
    Anglosceptic............................................ maybe.

    (128) Voice
    That will teach him not to come down here and take our mild tempered, sweet, innocent and naive brown girls...

    (129) redpoll
    I believe the real name of one of his two “Nigga” Labradors was “Gibson”... after Guy Gibson, I reckon...

    The other was named “Nelson” .... How RN can one get :-)))

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Well, this has been enlightening.

    Urghh! Couple of people definitely on my shit-list now. ..

    funny how some debate can expose true personalities. ...

    Nov 06th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland

    Hey Think!

    You the best!

    Did you hear? Even the People's Republic of Maryland just elected a right-wing Republican as Governor!

    Thanks buddy for your kind thoughts!

    I Think it made a difference.

    Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Geoff first you never asked me anything because I've not said a derogatory inference prior to that post, which was for effect to the previous idiots barrage of verbal sewage. My apologies to your partner.

    Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Did I miss a page??...maybe a couple of related posts missing....
    Can someone please explain WTF post 113 and 132 were about....
    Or is it some form of Yankee humour...?

    Nov 07th, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Thanks, Pops.

    Nov 07th, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Excellent deflection Think, you turned the thread so that it was all about you. Yuo must be Argentinian.

    Nov 07th, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    129 redpoll

    You are quite correct - THINK's very dated caricature creation, “DOD ” did have 2 dogs - “ Nelson” and “Nigger”.

    CFK has embarrassed herself on the world stage and now she must cower at home, instead of facing actual world Leaders at the G20 conference.

    Just another 'convenient' malady.

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