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“Habeas corpus” does not apply to Sumatran orangutan in Buenos Aires zoo

Friday, November 21st 2014 - 22:55 UTC
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Sandra, a 20-year Sumatran orangutan must remain at the Buenos Aires zoo following the rejection of an habeas corpus request presented by a group in defense of animal rights. The magistrate ruled that the 'non human person' presentation was not applicable to Sandra as pretended by AFADA, Association of Staff and Lawyers for Animals' rights. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    Does habeus corpus apply to all those unhappy Argentinos who are obliged to suffer under the reign of la Kretina?

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Wonder if she's overstayed her visa? One of Cretina's realatives? Primate seeks justice in a kangaroo court?

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    I'll take her over Christina anyday. Smarter and better looking!

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Glad to see that it is finally settled that foreigners (top picture), DO NOT have the same rights as Argentines (bottom picture).

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #4
    Surely your point of view is that all foreigners should be expelled from Argentina.
    The Orang Utang did not enter the country of it's own free will and is effectively being imprisoned by Argentine authorities. It should be deported as an illegal and undesirable alien.
    That should give you a warm glow of satisfaction.....keeping the bloodline free from foreign pollution.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Considering what Argentina did to its African population, the orang utan should be thankful it is locked up in a zoo.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @6

    We gave them freedom a half century before the superior ANGLOS in NorthAmoland. And you complain about that? Typical Ozzer-Anglo hypocrite.

    @5

    The bloodline is the most important by far, you are correct. Why would I want in my country what I witness in this forum?

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    7. Freedom to be cannon fire and restricted to live in area with Yellow fever until they all died.
    Why do you think there are blacks in Uruguay and none in Argentina.

    Rgs are so silly.

    What is the point of trying to spread 1/2 truths and outright lies when all the info is readily available to anyone who cares to search?

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @8

    There are more blacks in Uruguay because many argie slave owners fled there to “keep” their property.

    Argentina was the land of freedom for blacks, the rest of the countries of the Americas nothing but genocidal hellholes that wanted to keep them slaves. They are free thank to our leadership.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    9. The blacks fled there to get away from their containment in San Telmo when there was yellow fever.

    Gosh do you know your history at all?

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @10

    I studied Argentine history in Argentina, I certainly hold no respect to anything you could ever add to it. No go away focus on your own collapsing country.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I studied Argentina history in Argentina too. Remember I was there for a long time.
    The difference is I don't have ideological blinders on and I was not indoctrinated by fantasy either.

    I also had the means to travel and check stuff out for myself while I was there.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @12

    Good. Then go to the state of Saint Louis and re-learn about your real country's blacks condition.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I don't think 40 people protesting and causing a ruckus is anything to be concerned about.

    You have a very hard time understanding the difference between media hype and real facts.
    I told you long ago this, treyvon, etc wasn't an issue and wouldn't amount to anything.
    And it hasn't and it won't.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    “Cristina is in captivity, living in absolute solitude in the Buenos Aires city Presidential residence” argued UNCHR, which requested the mad cow be transferred to a sanctuary to preserve the species. “She is being treated as a psychiatric patient and has to suffer the presence of the public staring at her”.
    The criminal court judge, Monica Berdion de Crudo, rejected point blank the request recalling that it only applies to humans persons.

    :)

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @4 Troll in the Dark
    ”Glad to see that it is finally settled that foreigners (top picture), DO NOT have the same rights as Argentines (bottom picture).“

    You are really a disgusting piece of shite. Therefore you should have no right to a 'Habeas Corpus' either.
    @11 Trolley
    ”I studied Argentine history in Argentina,”.....And you swallowed every lie......that explains it .

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    #6 - ... said Anglo, posting from Australia, with zero sense of history.

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @ 17
    ... said Vestige, posting from Argentina, with zero sense of humour

    Nov 22nd, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    We own our history Vestige. Post any disgusting or evil action from Australia's past and I'll own it here and now.

    I won't deflect and I won't blame the British.

    Australia has the world's longest continuous culture in the Aboriginals. More than 40,000 years. And for all the bad we did, it is still present and much much longer than whatever nameless country you are ashamed to say you are from.

    I'm an Aussie and proud of it-the good and the bad. You are ashamed of your nationality. And that says much more than anything I post here.

    Argentina blames the Spanish for their past faults. We own our past.

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    No foreigner has the most minimum right to morally judge Argentina's history. Simple as that.

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Bollocks!

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @7

    Yet another troll lie, slavery was not abolished in Argentina until 1853. As for your other statement, Sarmiento (Unitarian remember,) wanted immigrants from Anglo and Germanic countries, not substandard material from “Foot Mountain.” ;)

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #20 titi boi.....so what you are actually saying is that there is no free speech in Argentina?

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #20
    Sp what gives YOU the right to morally criticise Britains, the USA and Europes?

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #7. This was your answer to blacks in Argentina?

    http://m.ibtimes.com/blackout-how-argentina-eliminated-africans-its-history-conscience-1289381

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @20 Trolley in the dark
    “No foreigner has the most minimum right to morally judge Argentina's history. Simple as that”....

    And how do you intend enforcing that you moron....you continue to make an ass out of yourself...

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Haha!

    Nov 23rd, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Anglos, worry about your own problems, like your lakes turning into JELLY.

    http://www.weather.com/science/environment/news/canadian-lakes-turn-into-jelly

    Nov 24th, 2014 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Poor titti boi fighting the world . To be poor AND RG must really suck. So what indian are you titti boi....or are you part of the missing black slaves of Argentina?

    Nov 24th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @28

    Actually I'd be more concerned about you. Remember what I said about head chopping running in the blood? ;)

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/175407/kirchnerite-activist-d%E2%80%99el%C3%ADa-threatens-judge-bonad%C3%ADo

    Nov 24th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @30
    It is shocking that a country that calls itself a democracy, (and a member of the G20), is contstantly trying to undermine and control its own Judiciary.

    Nov 24th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @28 Troll lost in the dark
    Maybe Canada should think of packing these jellyfish and exporting them to you guys.....they contain protein, and could become a good substitute for beef when CFK bankrupts all the cattle breeders.

    Nov 24th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @32

    Don't worry about my nutrition. I eat better than you will ever: I eat ARGENTINE FOOD.

    Worry about your Anglo - NorthAmoan cousins: tonight is the start of RACIAL war over here :(

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Titti boi tobi....Charlie Manson thought there would be a racial war also. Are you sad because you are a lost black man or Argentina pushed out race? What indian tribe are you because you are not white.

    Empanadas and chocotorta..........oh joy yummy.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #33
    “ tonight is the start of RACIAL war over here :”

    Do you in fact live in the USA or are you starting a racial war in Mendoza ?

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    Sad to hear that, it was a great chance to set a valuable precedent for wildlife :(

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @33
    “Don't worry about my nutrition. I eat better than you will ever: I eat ARGENTINE FOOD”........
    Well, thanks for letting me off the hook...now I won't have to worry if you go hungry. Now, as to your BROAD statement that “you eat better than I ever will”, how do you know ? Although you should have already noticed by my posts, I live in São Paulo (Brazil, in case you don't know), and I eat very well. I can eat the best of any country's 'cuisine' here, INCLUDING the best Argie beef - and wines - at some very good Argentine restaurants . Your silly statements are evidence that you have never travelled outside Argentina, and that is your loss......but before you tell me I don't need to worry about that, pls note that I couldn't care less.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    There is nothing interesting to see outside of Argentina. Much less any good food to eat, really

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Locked up (pretending to be in mendoza) in your mommy's basement........HTF would you know what the real world holds and offers? Even your follow trolls think of you as a sad and pathetic lost little child.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #38
    Is there anything interesting to see in Argentina and apart from a carniverous diet, anything worth eating ?

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @38 Troll,
    with such a limited view on everything, and obviously a very limited knowledge of everything outside of Argentina - not that you know much about anything inside of Argentina, either - you must be a one hell of a boring twat...maybe it's best you stay right where you are.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #38 titti....you are one of the dumbest (fake) RG's no? You make opinions with no information, correct? Nothing you need or want or most of all...no good food. What the fuck have you eaten in the free world? Tell me one restaurant you have eaten in the USA, UK......anywhere in Europe.....hell....Montevideo.......even Buenos Aires?

    You are a boy talking with a paper ass.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Why are you all insulting and traducing me for the SAME behavior you guys commit??

    Don't you all say there is nothing worth in Argentina? Do I excoriate you all for your completely ignorant and anglo views? No.

    I see nothing interesting to see outside even Mendoza (except beaches), let alone to eat! British food? Please, American? Hahahaha, that's an oxymoron. We got Italian already as part of the culture, and Chinese and Peruvian with the immigrants. A few sushi places and what else? That covers all the major cuisines of the world.

    I am being honest when I have never EVER desired or wished to go overseas to eat something. Everyone from overseas comes HERE to eat and always gain weight. In fact that is one of the biggest complaints about Argentina: travelers in the USA and Latin America complain about either the horrible or unhygienic food and how they lose weight... only to cross from Bolivia into Argentina and gain it all back and then some, due to the delicious, safe food! And clean water.

    And we have bidets which the rest of the world has no idea about. No wonder you all walk with brown on the back.

    We are simply superior than you. Period

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You need bidets titti boi, how would you speak after shitting it you did not have bidets?

    BTW, does you lack of world travel really have you thinking bidets are only in Argentina? Once again, only an Argentine can return a conversation to the toilets.

    Are you still suckling on your mommi's tittis and she supporting you?

    You never answered me what kind of indian are you, or are you one of the eradicated blacks who melded in?

    Your 4th paragraph displays loudly just how stupid you are. You really suffer the most serious level of inferiority.

    So what indian was it....or is it black? You live with the worst chips on your shoulder.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #44
    The bidet appears to have been an invention of French furniture makers in the late 17th century, although no exact date or inventor is known. Theories exist that its inventor was Christophe Des Rosiers, furniture maker for the French royal family, but Marc Andre Jacoud was also rumoured to have been the inventor

    “ That covers all the major cuisines of the world. ” Your ignorance on these matters is appalling” There probably is good food in Argentina but there is equally good food worldwide.

    lose weight... only to cross from Bolivia into Argentina and gain it all back and then some, due to the delicious, safe food! And clean water.
    That would indicate a diet high in fat.

    Wise up sonny !

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “ That covers all the major cuisines of the world. ” Your ignorance on these matters is appalling” There probably is good food in Argentina but there is equally good food worldwide.”

    Clyde I've had some great food in Argentina and most places I've been to. He is too ignorant to absorb that. His statements are absurd. To hate something you've never experienced. What would you call that?

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @43 Trolley
    “”And we have bidets which the rest of the world has no idea about“”.....

    Yeh, I suppose YOU DO need a 'bidet' - to soothe your bleeding haemorrhoids after sex...

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Here is a little article tobi.....for indigenous racists like you who hate the USA

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/32-quotes-revealing-foreigners-amazing-150030107.html

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    48 aptain,
    The fact that the USA already has so many illegal aliens in it, and hundreds of thousands more more trying to get in, says just about everything. I dont see any trying to sneak in, illegally, to Argentina.... unless of course, they might be from Bolivia......

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It's a huge mess and the 14th amendment is so flawed in the interpretation. We have our problems by far, but the assumption to those trying to get here is that if you are going to be broke, poor and homeless........it's the country to be in then.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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