Venezuela has indicted hard-line opposition leader María Corina Machado on charges of sedition claiming she took part in an alleged plot to kill president Nicolas Maduro, the state prosecutor's office confirmed. Read full article
Google has already stated that these emails are fake. This has been reported in many countries, except Vnzla, where it is forbidden to report it, as it is 'part of the plot to destabilise the Revolution' apparently. The regime therefore, is saying that Google is part of the 'conspiracy'.
Maduro is a big fan of conspiracy theories, and supposed coups against him. He normally announces one each week, with promises of further crackdowns. Few people are ever bought to court.
Here is a fascinating blog, by a respected academic, not some random interweb nutjob; http://venezuelaconspiracytheories.blogspot.co.uk/
MCM (María Corina Machado) was accused back in May, but it has taken this long for formal charges to be brought, (bought, perhaps is a better word...) as Maduro and his hench-men and hench-women needed time to 're-adjust' the judiciary and 'front-load' a chavista prosecution.
MCM is a woman of great diginty and intellect who is prepared to go to prison for her beliefs. Like Leopoldo she has not fled, but offered herself to the courts, knowing she has nothing to hide.
The courts, however, are mere tools of Chavismo. There is no true justice in Vnzla anymore, only the totalitarianism of the ruling party.
She is also a woman of fearsome intellect. Therefore a real threat to the bus-driver Maduro.
She was an elected Senator but Maduro was so frightened of debating with her that he had her removed on spurious grounds.
Now he is trying to silence her within the walls of a filthy gaol cell. Only proves how powerful she could be.
I don't understand. Surely, if she were in a plot to execute Maduro, that would justify the highest honours latam could bestow? And why don't you immediately detain a suspected potential murderer? Where's the 'evidence'? Anyone remember evidence? All these 'plots' against Maduro. Where's the evidence? I recall that, in 1944, Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain, went to Normandy and went ashore on one of the invasion beaches. A target for any stay-behind German. How many German 'plots' were there to capture or kill him? But no mention until after the war was won. What a difference. The courage of a Brit compared to the cowardice of Maduro.
It is un realistic to defeat them in the system they control themselves. The only way you get rid of chavismo is by civil war.
As you say, look out Argentina: this is your future.
You dont know what you are talking about.
Argentina is not going to end up as Venezuela, that is a common cliche nowadays, but an unrealistic one. Only in economic terms they seem a like but politically, peronism will ultimately destroy kirchnerism.
Yes but so was Menemism an offshoot of Peronism. And Kirchnerism and Menemism have nothing to do with each other ideologically.
Peronist territorial chieftains in the main electoral districts will only adapt to what ever government will provide them resources to keep the masses in place and secure them their seats in local office. In exchange the peronist masses vote for the government. Its pretty much un unwritten rule of peronist mindset. A lot of them actually despise the leftist terrorist past the Kirchnerist have
Now If the National State cant provide this, then the malcontent will force the local peronist chieftain to clash with the bankrupt national gov't.
This is how the country basically functions.
Middle class Argentina, i.e (private workers, bussines ppl, self employed, etc) orwhat is left of it is sick and tired of peronism as a whole. But ultimately they are a minority that really are the exploited ones in this socialist modeled country. Hence the resources that the Peronist State needs to control the masses must come from this sector
Trumped up charges to get rid of anyone who has the guts to speak out against the corrupt, incompetent Bolivarian governments.....sounds just like Cuba and the now defunct USSR....
Oh, this Venezuela Government... never change. Hahaha. What are they going to do with the inevitable rash of protests over either the steep drop in crude price or lifting of subsidized gas for the masses.
@13 BOTINHO,
D'you think it might be a good idea to inform the senile Mugabe that Carnival is only in February.......his coats would be a success in Salvador ..
I lived in West Africa for 5 years, and saw my share of these ridiculous power-grabbing dictators....what clowns they are, but in terms of corruption, they would make Brazil look like an amateur.
I was thinking the same thought.
Mr. Mugabe is just too well attired for one to comment on his fashion sense. That must be the Bob look.
As many here will know we do have an elected Carnival King each yyear, so I'm putting his name up for Perrnambuco, 2015. The custom there is a lively dance with a parasol.
@15 CD2
So that is CFK's idea of developing the country ??? give the poor a sausage in a bread roll ?....that'll go a looooooong way......but you're right, no ideology when it comes down to your stomach.
Its a polling station in a shithole town in Corrientes. It reads on a chalk board outside Today lets all togheter vote Fabian Rios and Cristina Kirchner....If not bye pensions, bye social security, bye kids salary
@20 CD2
While it's pretty clear it's not official CFK policy (or propaganda), it is obvious it is the mindset of the candidate (Fabian Rios) using her name/ image to promote himself with the ignorant voters, who know no better than to believe such crap. It's exactly the same here...in the last two presidential campaigns, while it was not the incumbent government's (the PT's) official policy to threaten the poor with the termination of their social benefits, should the opposition win , their campaign machine does all it can - unofficially - to spread these rumours amongst the poor voters, prompting them, in all their blissful ignorance, to carry-on voting for the PT....Despite the fact that the opposition was very clear that this would not, and could never happen, fear becomes the driving force behind determining who they vote for...and this kind of dirty politics only works with ignorant voters.
22. I agree with your views, even CFK has implied on national tv that Social conquests are not guaranteed after I am gone.. read in between lines and its pretty much the same threat.
I have met poor hard working people with dignity that rejected taking support from AUH (asignacion universal por hijo) but I guess that in the big cities poor slum dwellers are not like that at all.
They dont love Peronists nor Partido de los Trabajadores, but they feel that at least they can get something out of them for a vote. Really ignorant people indeed.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOh Look, Treasonous e-mails.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0How convenient to our neighbor to the North.
How distracting from the current problems.
How fake.
Google has already stated that these emails are fake. This has been reported in many countries, except Vnzla, where it is forbidden to report it, as it is 'part of the plot to destabilise the Revolution' apparently. The regime therefore, is saying that Google is part of the 'conspiracy'.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maduro is a big fan of conspiracy theories, and supposed coups against him. He normally announces one each week, with promises of further crackdowns. Few people are ever bought to court.
Here is a fascinating blog, by a respected academic, not some random interweb nutjob;
http://venezuelaconspiracytheories.blogspot.co.uk/
MCM (María Corina Machado) was accused back in May, but it has taken this long for formal charges to be brought, (bought, perhaps is a better word...) as Maduro and his hench-men and hench-women needed time to 're-adjust' the judiciary and 'front-load' a chavista prosecution.
MCM is a woman of great diginty and intellect who is prepared to go to prison for her beliefs. Like Leopoldo she has not fled, but offered herself to the courts, knowing she has nothing to hide.
The courts, however, are mere tools of Chavismo. There is no true justice in Vnzla anymore, only the totalitarianism of the ruling party.
Dark days indeed.
She looks to pretty to be bad,,,unlike CFK.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is also a woman of fearsome intellect. Therefore a real threat to the bus-driver Maduro.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0She was an elected Senator but Maduro was so frightened of debating with her that he had her removed on spurious grounds.
Now he is trying to silence her within the walls of a filthy gaol cell. Only proves how powerful she could be.
They want to imprison all opposition...a la Cuba....
Dec 04th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 4 ilsen
Dec 04th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Only proves how powerful she could be.”
But do the ‘ordinary’ citizens get that?
They seem to be mesmerised by the little Chubby dolls and all the other crap praising the idiot who single handedly destroyed their country.
As you say, look out Argentina: this is your future.
As long as these bastards don’t physically abuse or murder her we all know who will end up winning.
I don't understand. Surely, if she were in a plot to execute Maduro, that would justify the highest honours latam could bestow? And why don't you immediately detain a suspected potential murderer? Where's the 'evidence'? Anyone remember evidence? All these 'plots' against Maduro. Where's the evidence? I recall that, in 1944, Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain, went to Normandy and went ashore on one of the invasion beaches. A target for any stay-behind German. How many German 'plots' were there to capture or kill him? But no mention until after the war was won. What a difference. The courage of a Brit compared to the cowardice of Maduro.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is un realistic to defeat them in the system they control themselves. The only way you get rid of chavismo is by civil war.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you say, look out Argentina: this is your future.
You dont know what you are talking about.
Argentina is not going to end up as Venezuela, that is a common cliche nowadays, but an unrealistic one. Only in economic terms they seem a like but politically, peronism will ultimately destroy kirchnerism.
CD2
Dec 04th, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought Kirchnerism IS an offshoot of Peronism... ?
Don't they share the same values, just CFK feels more entitled to public funding of her retirement?
I am interested to hear how the K's are perceived in Arg. vs. the Peronists.
9.
Dec 04th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes but so was Menemism an offshoot of Peronism. And Kirchnerism and Menemism have nothing to do with each other ideologically.
Peronist territorial chieftains in the main electoral districts will only adapt to what ever government will provide them resources to keep the masses in place and secure them their seats in local office. In exchange the peronist masses vote for the government. Its pretty much un unwritten rule of peronist mindset. A lot of them actually despise the leftist terrorist past the Kirchnerist have
Now If the National State cant provide this, then the malcontent will force the local peronist chieftain to clash with the bankrupt national gov't.
This is how the country basically functions.
Middle class Argentina, i.e (private workers, bussines ppl, self employed, etc) orwhat is left of it is sick and tired of peronism as a whole. But ultimately they are a minority that really are the exploited ones in this socialist modeled country. Hence the resources that the Peronist State needs to control the masses must come from this sector
Trumped up charges to get rid of anyone who has the guts to speak out against the corrupt, incompetent Bolivarian governments.....sounds just like Cuba and the now defunct USSR....
Dec 04th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 CD2
Dec 04th, 2014 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, the masses would be just as happy with any other offshoot, of a different flavour, that provides the money.
Only money loyalty to CFK, not ideology?
Thx CD
Is this action copied from the Zimbabwe playbook ?
Dec 05th, 2014 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30334209
Or was the Maduro fraud to eliminate the opposition copied by Mugabe ?
Oh, this Venezuela Government... never change. Hahaha. What are they going to do with the inevitable rash of protests over either the steep drop in crude price or lifting of subsidized gas for the masses.
Dec 05th, 2014 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 012.
Dec 05th, 2014 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Only money loyalty to CFK, not ideology?
What do you reckon??
http://s3.subirimagenes.com:81/otros/6809532caca.jpg
http://s3.subirimagenes.com
@13 BOTINHO,
Dec 05th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0D'you think it might be a good idea to inform the senile Mugabe that Carnival is only in February.......his coats would be a success in Salvador ..
I lived in West Africa for 5 years, and saw my share of these ridiculous power-grabbing dictators....what clowns they are, but in terms of corruption, they would make Brazil look like an amateur.
Ola Jack;
Dec 06th, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was thinking the same thought.
Mr. Mugabe is just too well attired for one to comment on his fashion sense. That must be the Bob look.
As many here will know we do have an elected Carnival King each yyear, so I'm putting his name up for Perrnambuco, 2015. The custom there is a lively dance with a parasol.
15CD2
Dec 06th, 2014 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty damning photo!!
@15 CD2
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So that is CFK's idea of developing the country ??? give the poor a sausage in a bread roll ?....that'll go a looooooong way......but you're right, no ideology when it comes down to your stomach.
Have you seen this one in search by images??
Dec 06th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ac06UYC3ePc/TkuI4VGoCbI/AAAAAAAADI4/t_9ZZiLs1wU/s1600/10855.jpg
Its a polling station in a shithole town in Corrientes. It reads on a chalk board outside Today lets all togheter vote Fabian Rios and Cristina Kirchner....If not bye pensions, bye social security, bye kids salary
@20 CD2.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is simply outrageous!
and I suppose the poor and uneducated have no idea that they should feel outraged.
@20 CD2
Dec 06th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While it's pretty clear it's not official CFK policy (or propaganda), it is obvious it is the mindset of the candidate (Fabian Rios) using her name/ image to promote himself with the ignorant voters, who know no better than to believe such crap. It's exactly the same here...in the last two presidential campaigns, while it was not the incumbent government's (the PT's) official policy to threaten the poor with the termination of their social benefits, should the opposition win , their campaign machine does all it can - unofficially - to spread these rumours amongst the poor voters, prompting them, in all their blissful ignorance, to carry-on voting for the PT....Despite the fact that the opposition was very clear that this would not, and could never happen, fear becomes the driving force behind determining who they vote for...and this kind of dirty politics only works with ignorant voters.
22. I agree with your views, even CFK has implied on national tv that Social conquests are not guaranteed after I am gone.. read in between lines and its pretty much the same threat.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have met poor hard working people with dignity that rejected taking support from AUH (asignacion universal por hijo) but I guess that in the big cities poor slum dwellers are not like that at all.
They dont love Peronists nor Partido de los Trabajadores, but they feel that at least they can get something out of them for a vote. Really ignorant people indeed.
I think whoever gets in should treble the give away, it will bring forward the final curtain on the heap of dogshit called Argentina.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need a new start, nothing I have seen so far is even close to that.
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