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Chile consulted Argentina before allowing HMS Dragon to dock in Valparaiso
Chilean foreign minister Jorge Burgos revealed this week that the presence of HMS Dragon in Valparaiso was authorized after having consulted with Argentina, and underlined that Chile strictly abides with what was agreed regarding the passage of British vessels through Chilean waters. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI call bullsh1t.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has begged Chile to spin this crap to save face.
Isn't interpretation wonderful? Argentina uses selective interpretation of UN Resolutions, so she should hardly be surprised if her neighbours use a selective interpretation of agreements.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahaha!
Dec 06th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahaha!
Bahahaha!
Oh my oh my oh my!
How simply wonderful ☺!
Chile is absolutely delighted to be hosting both a Type 45 Destroyer and The First Sea Lord of The Royal Navy at the Expo.
They don't care about the petulant neighbours who only managed a naval attaché from the embassy, who don't have anything to present, nor the cash to buy any products or systems.
The embarrassing poor cousin at the global society dinner.
Must have been quite awkward.
“Diplomacy is the art of telling people to go to hell in such a way that they ask for directions.”
- Winston S. Churchill
See above.
I think the beggar Argentina just got handed a free Sat Nav!
They stamp their feet, have a paddy, wail and cry. Now they have red faces and tear streaks.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder if Clarkson and co were aboard to thank Chileans for rescuing their crew from the Argie knuckle draggers?
Bahahahaha
This is why there was only ONE argie “Naval Officer” present, besides the fact that the argies haven't got a functioning navy.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will be interesting to see what Chile ultimately does and which side it picks, as it is a crucial player.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that Chile will take British aid money and Navy savy, but ultimately buckle to Argentina as it has historically done.
I think having a British Type 45 Destroyer parked in very home and heart of the the Chilean Navy HQ is making a pretty big statement of who your allies are.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There may be lip service to Argentina, but everybody knows it is just patter. If that what is called 'buckling' in Argentina, now wonder they believe the malvina myths.
Actions speak louder. Events in Valparaiso are loud enough for all the international community to hear.
What has Argentina got offer Chile?
Would Argentina threaten Chile? Is so, why?
Most importantly, how?
I think a lot more countries would support Chile, especially NATO countries....
Let's hope it never happens.
@7
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi there, sexy trucker from North Yorkshire with a large penis.
Sorry, but the fact that Chile is finding itself asking permission to host a British vessel to Argentina is a bit more than just providing lip service. So that cancells all your other questions by de facto.
You have so much to learn in geopolitics. Stay tuned.
@6. There's no way that Chile is a 'crucial' player. It's 'convenient'. Look back. Royal Navy vessels have always sailed all over the world. No doubt, if necessary, RN and RFA vessels will refuel and resupply from USN vessels. Or the US may find that it has no bases in the UK, Ascension Island, the British Indian Ocean Territory and elsewhere. Here's a difference. All argieland wants, for the most part, is words. Starting in 1996, the UK has been a Level 1 partner with the US in the F-35 combat aircraft. NO-ONE else is at that level. The F-35 is part British. And, by comparison, where is argieland? Still trying to buy second-hand outdated crap? Still with outdated ships that the RN could sink in minutes? Still with 'armour' equivalent to a Mini? Chile needs to figure out where it is. History shows that Britain doesn't appreciate people trying to play both sides against the middle.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8. I remember geopolitics. I also remember Mers-el-Kébir. Do you?
Argentine diplomacy'
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meaning 1)
Agree to something and then wholeheartedly renege upon it. Complain vociferously about the other party making demands and threats and claim in a beseeching manner to be the victim of the piece.
Meaning 2)
Mug a foreign diplomat for an agreement/support for some issue cooked up to distract the population back home. Take the confused look as acquiescence then announce to the world a new international supporter for 'the cause'.
Meaning 3)
To scweam and scweam and stamp your feet because you want something that you can't have.
Argentine diplomacy.
9.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Britain is very overrated in terms of soft power and diplomatic power. You cant just ignore geography, and that is Argentina's most powerful card.
Mers-el-Kebir....An act of stupidity and unforgivable betrayal all it was. The pied noirs and French navy would have blown up the ships if the Germans had attempted to seize them.
Who was the dick that believed in invading Italy from the south all the way up the peninsula?? Ohh No French support in that one.....
11. Yeah. Maybe you are right. The UK was staring invasion in the face and it's only trump card was its navy. Let's just take a risk. Roll a dice. See what happens. I mean what's the worst that could happen? The doubling of the the size of the German fleet? Pah! So what! It is nothing.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Afterall we know that the commander of the the French fleet was a dyed in the wool Anglophile and had no liking for the nazi ideology whatsoever............. Or was that an alternative history book I was reading.
Do us us a favour.
And who wasn't by nature a anglophobe in the French navy?? Get real, it doesn't mean they would side with the Germans.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that feeling was predominant and the French colonies had any loyalty to Vichy gov't then the Free French in NorthAfrica would have entered war with the allies in Lybia & Tunisia.
Use your bloody brains.
Todays Argentina's disgraceful propaganda in El Salvador
Dec 06th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.elsalvador.com/mwedh/nota/nota_completa.asp?idCat=47860&idArt=9298192
And how does the idea that everybody in France is an Anglophobe disprove my point? It only strengthens it. The French fleet had to be neutralised one way or the other.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's face it. The British did what they had to do. They did it it with a heavy heart and they took no pride in it.
If the tables had been turned the French would have sunk the British fleet, laughed all the while and the celebrated it as a great victory to this day.
Use your own brains if you can find them in your boxers.
Who cares. Chile and Brazil can anchor whatever vessels they wish from the British navy, so long they stay far FAR away from Argentine ports, for posterity.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever the ins and outs of the Chilean/Argentinian/Royal Navy situation, and ports and seaways and all this nonsense, as has already been pointed out Argentina's naval strength is virtually zero, chile could take her on with both hands tied behind her back. Even Bolivia could probably beat them in a two way battle, and they're landlocked. Every time Castro and Kirchner and Filmus and Kohen open their mouths it just get's more and more Monty Python.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot believe that Chile had to ask Argentina's permission and give them notice of this visit. Why the hell does a sovereign nation like Chile need permission from an arsepit like Argentina on who can visit their ports?
Dec 06th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 015.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said in the French navy, not France as a whole you tool!! In fact that the over one million Pied noirs decided to not go on a vendetta on allied troops in north Africa is a clear indication that there was no such attitude. It was all in Churchills head.
France was under German occupation not British!
Fucking british cowards & cunts.
11. Mers-el-Kebir.... the bottom line was that Britain wasn't about to risk its future on a bunch of Frenchmen keeping their word. At the time Britain was alone in its fight with Nazi Germany (thanks for joining us very late in the war) and offered the French admiral the option of joining forces and fighting to help liberate France. The action also had the effect of convincing Roosevelt that we were never going to surrender and persuaded him that selling us weapons was a good idea if he wanted avoid seeing the Nazi's in London.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Over rated soft power? how did your attempts to acquire new Exocets go during 1982? soft power diplomacy stopped the supply. How are your attempts at getting new fighter jets going? being an ally of the USA / Europe can help dry up supplies of spare parts and persuade potential suppliers (eg Israel) that having a permanent UN security council member as a friend is a better option than selling a few 2nd hand planes.
Geography on your side? not really, bearing in mind the likely presence of a nuclear powered attack submarine I wouldn't fancy your chances of another amphibious invasion. Even if you did somehow take the islands the UK fleet that would then set sail would dominate the airspace (Aircraft carriers making your 400 mile gap a geographical problem as their aircraft had plenty of time over the islands. Again). The islands are still a long way off the mainland, if you wanted to keep them you would need a fleet to match ours, bearing in mind the 11 or so nuclear subs we have (more like 15 with the Trident boats) and 2 large carriers either built or well under construction.
18 CabezaDura2 - Do you really have to debase your argument with filth and obscenities? Your opinion of the British is your own and you have the right to hold it of course, but you have sadly fallen straight into the 'school boy error' trap of resorting to such abusive language thereby nulifying any reasonable opinion others may have had for you, and in consequence wasted all your time and effort because we all now know you to be a complete...........
Dec 06th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 ilsen
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Diplomacy is the art of telling people to go to hell in such a way that they ask for directions.”
- Winston S. Churchill
Much, much LOLz!!!!
So nice to see that “Diplomacy” is alive and well in the South Atlantic
#17
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine living next door to the French. Then multiplying that inconvenience by twenty. Oh yes, our neighbors are kleptomaniacs who are constantly complaining about others causing their problems. We've learned here in Chile to give them lip service, and pretend to agree with their fantasies...
You know, “yes, yes Martin, those nasty English pirates shamefully stole your precious Malvinas, and oh yes, dear Martin, it was so unfair that the IMF stop giving you unlimited billions of credit...”
RN = No ports in Argentina for you.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bottom line.
23. That's not what the Argentines say :-)
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reciting the sky is pink won't make it pink, bloke. Just trying to save you some time.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We've been telling argi
Dec 06th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0es that for years. No amount of words will turn Port Stanley into the Argentine port they claim it is. Ours since 1765, fact, claimed by a chap with a well known freedom fighting grandson.
19. It was stupid, unreasonable and cowardly act. And for it you would lose many men, time and resources in the Mediterranean campaign and Italian campaign. If a frenchman is not trustworthy why the hell did you ally with them so many times??
Dec 06th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instead of a crucial ally, arrogant Churchill transformed the French North African powerhouse into a neutral one for the rest of the war and that like it or not is a fact.
Yes Britain is overrated soft & diplomatic power. It doesnt even have its most formal and powerfull ally backing it in the Suez Canal, Northern Ireland and Falklands. Get real and recognize that your government is only good at throwing money away for nothing in return. Just look at the money gone to Pakistan in the last 10 years or so... You are literally paying for the Pakistani ISI not to deliver the bomb to the Taliban.
Argentina is getting no weapons because its run by crooks who have bankrupted the country and made its word meaningless, not because Britain is blocking arm sells to Argentina !!!!!! Where the hell did you make up that crap??? If the money would be there rest assured that the providers western and none western would appear on short notice.
Spain has attempeted to take over Gibraltar 14 times, and is currently conducting a very aggresive policy regarding the Rock, so why does Spain have access to BAE's stockpiles??
Your diplomacy is a joke.
Geography is on Argentina's side in economical terms. The islands may be enjoyng a high standard of living and so on. But potentially they could have a much bigger population and larger more diversified economy, that they dont have it is pretty much due to Argentina's blockade.
20.. Bwa bwa bwa HardHead is so rude about us deliberately killing and betraying 1 k French seamen.... In fact he is the only one to say filth and obscenities here in this site it seems...
Stupid fruit.
@27
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It wasn't that Churchill didn't trust the pieds noire (although it would probably have been wise not to) , it was that he didn't trust the Vichy government with the Germans demanding that the French fleet return to home ports to be placed under German “supervision”. One million pieds noirs joining the Allies ( an extremely unlikely event in any case) would hardly have compensated for the Nazis, with their limited Naval capacity, getting their hands on the French fleet.
Not that anybody, least of all the RN, was proud of what they felt compelled to do, which took place, incidentally only after an entire day of negotiations and several other options being offered to Admiral Darlan.
I think you will find that in 1982 the Americans stripped the most modern air to air missiles from their front line fighters and sent them to us. I note that you don't refute the point about exocet supplies. Northern Ireland? I refer you to several presidential visits in the last 20 years so they could bask in the reflected glow of peace.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will ally with France but not trust them with our national sovereignty which is what trusting them to blow up the ships would have entailed. Let's remember that we've had a few issues over the years...100years war; 30 years war, 7 year war, Napoleonic war etc etc.
Geography is on our side economically ...new oilfields in British run waters. They are set to be swimming in cash; the fishing licences already give them about £15 million a year for 3000 population. Why would they want a larger population? It would mean sharing the oil money between more people. Better living standard in Stanley than most of Argentina... not exactly suffering a true blockade is it, just an irritating neighbour.
Gibraltar... nice of Spain to hand it over in the Treaty of Utrecht. They know we would declare war, this kind of puts them off.1982 helped clarify the point. Besides the UK tourists to Spain help keep it afloat financially, no need to.rock that boat.
All you have is hearsay over who said what and who said this or that and “what ifs”....Even after Mers-el-Kebir, Darlan ordered Gensoul to sabotage the remaining French fleet at Toulon. So it kind of makes the whole British propaganda and lies mute.
Dec 06th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0French colonial troops would have being crucial in Sicily and Italy...And even in the early 1940s there was a possibility that fascist Spain would side with Germany and take Gibraltar and North Africa, making the Pied noires even more valuable.
Churchill was an idiot with luck.
#30
Dec 06th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're wrong. Mers-el-Kebir while unfortunate, was completely necessary, given the refusal to either join the fight or sail to a neutral port and demilitarise the ships. Even if France would not have handed over the fleet, the Nazis could still have taken them by force. The risk was far far too great to take.
29. Do you realise you wrote 4 sentances missing the point in all of them ??? Not even the United States, your most important ally recognizes and supports the British administration. The fact that Washington has being sitting on the fence for more than 30 years over this issue is proof enough your diplomacy and clout as a country is meaningless. Even Russias far more dubious annexation of Crimea is endoresed and recognized by far more countries in one year!!!! LOL
Dec 06th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The islands could at least fit in 100 k people if it was not blocked by Argentina, Iceland is near 300.000 and that is still a pretty good low density for all land and sea resources. Besides what are business & life costs in the islands regardless of GDP per capita that is derived by the fishing licenses??
Spain has access to EF 2000's.... That is the point, Dont you get it?? Do you understand that why I laugh when you claim Britain is a diplomatic influential country that blocks Argentine purchases???
27 CabezaDura2 - You clearly are as mad as a box of frogs. I forgive you your oscenities and abuse because it is obviously an illness. I sincerely hope you recover or get locked up.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Distraction.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0rotting roadkill: You are a serial deadbeat.
Pay your debts.
@32
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Iceland has been settled since the 9th century, the Falklands since the 19th. Perhaps this can account for the difference in poulation? Maybe you should come back and check up on population size and density in another ten centuries (when the Falklands still won't be Aregntine, incidentally)
Otherwise, the United States, like any other country, pursues first and foremost its own interests, and it has nothing to gain by coming down off the diplomatic fence, especially whenever it's current stance amounts to a vote for the status quo, and the UK has no need for any such assistance anyway. When the chips were down, and the UK did need assistance, the US did indeed come to the party, albeit with its usual tardiness.
Who exactly, apart from diplomatic powerhouse Afghanistan, has endorsed Russia's annexation of the Crimea?
“HMS Dragon came to Chile for different motives: one to participate in the commemoration of the centenary of the Battle of Coronel, and secondly to attend the Chilean navy's Expo-Naval 2014.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The vessel did not come looking for logistic support as before; the accord on British vessels in this case does not apply” concluded Santos.”
That pretty well sums up this situation, business as usual albeit with lip service paid to Argentina.
Argentina’s attempts to persuade its neighbours to boycott the Royal Navy have failed.
Overall, the Argentine government’s policy on the Falklands is an abject failure and, in any other country, it would be viewed as such and there would be outrage amoung the population. This failure is an international embarrassment for them, but do they feel any shame?
Who came to Argentinas aid in 1982 when they invaded the islands?
Dec 07th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who blocked the UNSC binding resolution?
When Argentina added the silly “sovereignty dispute” line into the NSGT resolution...who other than Latin countries backed them?
Who assisted Britain in 1982 both with hardware and intelligence?
Who voted with them in the UNSC resolution?
Who voted with them in 2008 to block Argentinas ridiculous resolution?
When it's important the UK pulls in its allies, when it isn't important it ignores Argentinas bluster and bullsit.
There is a documentary at 7pm this evening on BBC4 about the battle of Coronel.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11. No, dearie, you don't 'think'. Ask yourself a simple question. Whose support does the US most desperately want? France? Germany? Italy? Spain? Nope. I don't recall exactly who said it, but some American general apparently said that he'd rather have a British force alongside than a French force behind. Back in 1990, General Norman Schwarzkopf reckoned that he could do the whole job with aircraft and armour. By 1991 he had the honesty to visit Britain's SAS and admit that he'd been wrong. You see, Britain's soft power and diplomatic power is the glove over the mailed fist.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mers-el-Kebir showed the world what Britain could and would do. The French were given the opportunity to surrender. Stupid French. They could have sailed out and joined with other allied navies. They'd already been defeated by the Germans and set up their treacherous, collaborating Vichy regime. That's right, French police were rounding up Jews and handing them over to the Gestapo and SS. How do you betray cowards?
@13. Operation Torch. November 1942. Anglo-American invasion of French North Africa. And the Vichy French fought. 1,200 Anglo-American casualties. But at least 3,300+ French were taken out.
@23. But suppose there are no ports in argieland? You know we can do it!
@27. When was French North Africa a 'powerhouse'? It was like the rest of France. Cowardly, treacherous and second rate. How would the Falklands have a much bigger population and a more diversified economy? They don't want argie scum residing on THEIR islands, creaming off money and sending it back to the enemy. But thanks for confirming that argieland is operating a blockade. That's another breach of the UN Charter and international law! And demonstrates how the Kirchner Cow lies. Democratic and diplomatic, eh?
@30. Dumb. Nothing French has ever been 'crucial'. Although I suppose it is possible that, during the Italian campaign, they could have been made to run forward to clear minefields.
36.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One basic and foremost principle of political science is that “geography predetermines destiny”.... The Americans know it, the Russians know it. You don t know it.
Argentina will always be able to breath over the islands neck because of this reason. You will never have an open market for this reason and you will never be able to grow to full potential of the islands and recive substantial immigration, unless of course Argentina changes its attitudes.
That is a fact or untill technology is invented that can make islands move in the Oceans and move the Falklands over to the North of Scotland ??
The least thing you should expect after a decade long poodleing to the Americans in the Middle East, billions spent and ks lost, is for the Americans to endorse that the islands are legitimately British and that Argentina's claim is bogus. As simple as that... Its the same thing happening after you got used in Korea for a few years later being called off by the Americans at Suez. It caused Anthony Eden to step down after compelling to the US.
How much money you are giving to the EU??? Angela Merkel doesn't even care about facilitating a way you can tap immigration, because fuck bureaucracy, its just a matter of will. How much more humiliation can you take and pretend you are a diplomatic power house??
How many Billions worth of Aid are you spending in third world only to get dumped with immigrants ??
You guys dont fool me, you can make fun at loser Argentina and its posters here, but you are a pathetic joke yourselves that will be a Muslims in 50 years time or less.
Say bye to the professor
41. I'm guessing, by the rubbish you keep spouting, you must have been educated in Argentina. My deepest sympathies.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 No, you are the joker. You can try all you like to hide your predjudice and racism, but it just keeps showing through from Argentineans, it seems to be endemic. Britain has absorbed all sorts of people that admire our society over hundreds of years, thats why they keep coming and thats why so many of your countrymen cannot wait to come to Britain. Its also why so many are in the FI and never want to come back. Argentina has managed to attract only one British person, we have hundreds and thousands. It all speaks for itself and leaves you trolls looking hopeless.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the charge of arrogance, some of us are sure, but unlike your countrymen its with good reason they snipe at your country and some of your countrymen as I am sure you realise.
As for pathetic jokes it must be fun living in the world leader.
43. And now in the face of facts, and reality you will duck your head in the sand and you are going to get all PC and shit playing the racist card and all that it so stupid, predictable and boring.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#44 If all you have to go on is the British Press which only prints “aint it awful?” I forgive your totally absurd impression. But, it isnt really like that not even remotely.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If, like so many of the many of the trolls here you actually living in the UK and accepting our generous hospitality please take your absurd racist notions with you back to your joke homeland.
45.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here in Argentina we have a paper which only prints “aint it awful?” news... The gov't and its kool aid supporters call them “Clarin” “El Monopolio”, etc. Problem is what they say is true 95% of the times.
I have shuttered many of your posters here in this site about this subject many times before. Dont make me go through this again because frankly Im pretty unamused by kool aid, politically correct “la la” liberal european & Argentine cunts.
There is more to destiny then geography.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islanders have proven they don't need Argentina to survive and prosper. Neighbouring countries influence but don't always shape and get what they want. Otherwise Canada would be a republic, or worse, part of the US. New Zealand would be an Australian state like it was supposed to be. Ireland would be in the Union. And Uruguay wouldn't exist.
Argentina can't stop or hinder or influence the Falkland Islanders any more than how they do now.
And how is that working out?
@41
Dec 07th, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, not the Muslim menace again. Does this mean we're going to get another rendition of your sexual anxieties as well? One usually follows the other.
48. Up to 2 k British fighting in ISIS... That makes the UK a larger terrorist exporting country than many Middle eastern countries... LOL
Dec 07th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11248114/Muslim-MP-2000-Britons-fighting-for-Islamic-State.html
You must be very happy HamasNiesund.
LOL @ European Libtards
49. 2,000 Britons fighting for ISIS. Firstly they may have British passports but the moment they signed up to ISIS we disowned them. But, 1,000,000 Brits did fight against Hitler and his world endangering evil. What did Argentina contribute ?, Oh, yes, they sided with the Nazis. and they've been, as Call of Duty so correctly puts it, one of the bad guys ever since.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CB2 So what? Do we care? How does this affect us? Answer- it doesnt! Except for a tiny tiny minority its not relavent to us. We have a great security service, world leaders. And, they already know exactly who you are and know you are irrelevent too… lol!
Dec 07th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoy the Stones,… .. oh, I forgot, you live in Peckham…
@49
Dec 07th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the most vociferous complaints are coming from? The Muslim Council of Great Britain and Britain's first Muslim MP. I know you generally prefer the simplified version of things, but your Dummy's Guide to the World isn't really helping you much.
50.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Born and breed in your own streets and schools. Argentina simply was rather neutral, there was elements of nazi supporters within the army officers like Peron, and others. But that doesn't make the country nazi.
51. But then you are admitting you are a terrorist exporting country.
52.
The Muslim Council of Great Britain concludes in blaming the gov't to cover their own failures in dealing with their own communities.
You guys are so ignorant to when it comes to understanding how politics work!
Is it true,
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it more lies,
either way, who cares,
the fact is, we are their, full stop,
besides we are coming ???
UK confirms Mk 41 VLS selection for Type 26
http://www.janes.com/article/46719/uk-confirms-mk-41-vls-selection-for-type-26
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New Royal Navy base to be built in Bahrain in landmark deal
http://www.janes.com/article/46719/uk-confirms-mk-41-vls-selection-for-type-26
Will eventually service , type 45, mine sweepers , aircraft carriers ,
And submarines,
Welcome back to the futures past,
And woo, all those who have been abusive to us..
@53
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt it has also escaped your attention that the majority of those fighting Isis are also Muslims.
Caradura at (53) says...:
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You guys are so ignorant to when it comes to understanding how politics work”
I say...:
Well..... He ain't precisely a Machiavelli himself....
“ E-mail from an English cunt” so funny. But pay attention to his comments on Tony Blair at the end.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq0RvQZZLA4
The poodle of the USA and they dont even respect your arse!!! LOL
Some say,
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain is to overrated and perhaps gone soft,
Some say, Britain cannot back it up anymore,
History again and again tells a different story,
And our enemies never seem to learn
Those who fail to read history are deemed to forever join the losers of this world,
Take some good advice,
1, be sure you can win, or you will lose
2, taking to piss, are easy thousands of miles away, under the bed
But sooner of later, you will be forced to answer for it,
3, kicking the sleeping lion is one thing,
But when someone else controls your escape route and you find yourself in the same cage,
Then that’s another thing,
4, we may be small, but we pack a massive punch, so don’t be silly
And lastly, if you’re going to do it, then do it,
Don’t sit under your mother dress and brag..
Just a nice Sunday thought…
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I wonder if Chile consulted Argentina about the Chilean politician that's here at the moment in his official capacity.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56
Dec 07th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's aiming for Mussolini but making Pagliacci.
CabezaDura2, bottom line, we have the Islands and are keeping them, there's sweet FA you can do about it. Only the Islanders can change the situation, and there's no way they are ever going to want to be part of Argentina
Dec 07th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every so often CD goes off the rails.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think watching his country crumble into oblivion is causing mental stress.
Just wait until next year...
61. Try saying that to someone who gives a rat fuck about the islands. This is geopolitics. And you are not worth what you keep on saying you are worth. Laugh all you like at loser Argentina for all I care it is well deserved.
Dec 07th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By you dont fool me. And if you stick around every now and then I will stick it up you guys from time to time. Just for you guys to not get to big for your boots.
Oh dear!
Dec 08th, 2014 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I used to enjoy, even respect the posts of CD2, but of the past month or two we have seen his true character.
What a shame.
He's like Tobi. He loses the plot when he's not taken at his own estimation.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 065.
Dec 08th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a hyena always wandering around me Hamas waiting for me to be on the ground to go at me.... Very funny for me.
See what I mean?
Dec 08th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain Beefs Up Military Might In Bahrain
Dec 08th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK's naval presence on the strategically-important Gulf nation is to be expanded to include a forward operating base
http://news.sky.com/story/1386798/britain-beefs-up-military-might-in-bahrain?DCMP=AFC-85386&affiliate=true
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Will Britain's new base in Bahrain make any difference
http://news.sky.com/story/1386798/britain-beefs-up-military-might-in-bahrain?DCMP=AFC-85386&affiliate=true
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Foreign Secretary hails £15million port expansion in Bahrain that will enable Royal Navy to send bigger ships to the Gulf
http://news.sky.com/story/1386798/britain-beefs-up-military-might-in-bahrain?DCMP=AFC-85386&affiliate=true
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3 other bases may well be built, either in Jordan , Oman , UAE , and or Saudi Arabia,
To accommodate the British army and the RAF , on training duties.
So it is said.
Perhaps the Falklands could operate a royal navy out station,
Either way,
Im surprised we have not heard a squeak out of CFK..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0DbgNju2wE&list=PLI5XlTgRxSsF9yNBRFDxv24lNo0Knh5DF
Dec 10th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA USA
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