British veteran of the 1982 Falklands War claims to have killed an Argentine soldier with his bayonette and now wants to give the helmet to the family, but... ¿did it happen as he says? Read full article
Let's imagine it happened as Hoggan says it did.
The dead blokes father sounds rather arrogant in this write up.
'If it was my son's, I want it'
It stopped being your son's property the moment somebody else's son, (whom your son would have killed given the chance) killed him, and won the item as a war trophy.
He's been disowned by many in the Scots Guards and they are concerned that his recollection of events does not match those of the other members of his company, who reached their objectives on Tumbledown unopposed.
He did not take part in any fighting, but appears to be suffering from some form of Münchausen syndrome.
The symptoms are a history of recurrent hospitalization, travelling, and dramatic, untrue, and extremely improbable tales of their past experiences.
The illness gets its name from Baron Münchhausen (Karl Friedrich Hieronymus Freiherr von Münchhausen, 1720–1797), a German nobleman working in the Russian army, who purportedly told many fantastic and impossible stories about himself, which Rudolf Raspe later published as The Surprising Adventures of Baron Münchhausen.
Seems that Hoggan may be suffering some form of PTSD, but has fabricated a story about a soldier being bayoneted to draw attention to himself.
Maybe if he sat down with a Psychiatrist, he could sort out his real problem and stop telling fibs.
Let's imagine it happened as Hoggan says it did.
The dead blokes father sounds rather arrogant in this write up.
'If it was my son's, I want it'
It stopped being your son's property the moment somebody else's son, (whom your son would have killed given the chance) killed him, and won the item as a war trophy.
get a life.
If the father wants the helmet he should have it, there's nothing *arrogant* about simply asking for something.
Arrogant is where yous tart *demanding* things... just look at CFKs government for the perfect example.
Gordon Hoggan did not kill or engage with any Argentine soldiers during Battle of Mount Tumbledown. Concerning comments above I heard he had mental issues, that being the case he should seek help. Or it is the case that he is a Walter Mitty stealing the credit that belongs to brave men, many of whom made the final sacrifice for Queen and country, I hope not. Above comment correct G company secured their objective unopposed. Former Scots guard who was there.
The death of every solider should be honoured no matter which side he fights, if the fallen individual can be traced either by his number or by other identification means ,it should be returned to the family. Families of the dead in any conflict are not arrogant, at first they maybe angry, then they find pride but they will always remember and never forget. If it is not traceable, give it to a museum. Job done
I think Gordon, you should continue having it, so every morning when you wake up, will remember what you did !!!
Each Argentinean's soldier fought to recover our Malvinas Islands that were wrested in 1833 by pirates!!!
They are not your Islands.
Never were.
Never will be.
Your soldiers died because you tried to steal land that belonged to the Falkland Islanders.
The pity is that the people who sent them to be killed, did not receive the same fate.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTotal rubbish. G Company Scots Guards composed of 7th, 8th and 9th platoons reached their positions on Mount Tumbledown unopposed.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the helmet. Probably lost by an argie running for his life!
Let's imagine it happened as Hoggan says it did.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The dead blokes father sounds rather arrogant in this write up.
'If it was my son's, I want it'
It stopped being your son's property the moment somebody else's son, (whom your son would have killed given the chance) killed him, and won the item as a war trophy.
Hoggan needs psychiatric treatment.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's been disowned by many in the Scots Guards and they are concerned that his recollection of events does not match those of the other members of his company, who reached their objectives on Tumbledown unopposed.
He did not take part in any fighting, but appears to be suffering from some form of Münchausen syndrome.
The symptoms are a history of recurrent hospitalization, travelling, and dramatic, untrue, and extremely improbable tales of their past experiences.
The illness gets its name from Baron Münchhausen (Karl Friedrich Hieronymus Freiherr von Münchhausen, 1720–1797), a German nobleman working in the Russian army, who purportedly told many fantastic and impossible stories about himself, which Rudolf Raspe later published as The Surprising Adventures of Baron Münchhausen.
Seems that Hoggan may be suffering some form of PTSD, but has fabricated a story about a soldier being bayoneted to draw attention to himself.
Maybe if he sat down with a Psychiatrist, he could sort out his real problem and stop telling fibs.
Let's imagine it happened as Hoggan says it did.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The dead blokes father sounds rather arrogant in this write up.
'If it was my son's, I want it'
It stopped being your son's property the moment somebody else's son, (whom your son would have killed given the chance) killed him, and won the item as a war trophy.
get a life.
If the father wants the helmet he should have it, there's nothing *arrogant* about simply asking for something.
Arrogant is where yous tart *demanding* things... just look at CFKs government for the perfect example.
Gordon Hoggan did not kill or engage with any Argentine soldiers during Battle of Mount Tumbledown. Concerning comments above I heard he had mental issues, that being the case he should seek help. Or it is the case that he is a Walter Mitty stealing the credit that belongs to brave men, many of whom made the final sacrifice for Queen and country, I hope not. Above comment correct G company secured their objective unopposed. Former Scots guard who was there.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He may well of been near to many argies on this blog,
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mmmmm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2854550/Did-phoney-Falklands-veteran-fool-world-media-Gordon-Hoggan-55-accused-fabricating-story-killing-Argentine-soldier-stabbing-neck-bayonet.html
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give it to the Urangatan a fitting end to the story.
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor man.
The death of every solider should be honoured no matter which side he fights, if the fallen individual can be traced either by his number or by other identification means ,it should be returned to the family. Families of the dead in any conflict are not arrogant, at first they maybe angry, then they find pride but they will always remember and never forget. If it is not traceable, give it to a museum. Job done
Dec 22nd, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Gordon, you should continue having it, so every morning when you wake up, will remember what you did !!!
Dec 28th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Each Argentinean's soldier fought to recover our Malvinas Islands that were wrested in 1833 by pirates!!!
They are not your Islands.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Never were.
Never will be.
Your soldiers died because you tried to steal land that belonged to the Falkland Islanders.
The pity is that the people who sent them to be killed, did not receive the same fate.
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