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Cotroversial two-part Top Gear Patagonia special aired on BBC2
Critics agree only the segment where the crew is chased and thrown stones at by angry Argentines has some 'action'. The rest is the usual Top Gear travelogue. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI very much enjoyed watching Top Gear, but then I usually do. It was an extra treat to watch Argentina shoot itself in the foot :-)
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly Argentina confirmed its reputation as a beautiful country scarred by the presence of thugs and mass hysteria. The only part that looked mentally normal was the Nazi part.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0That was mental top gear try to show Argentina as normal argues are having none of it.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alf Ramsey said,
Dec 29th, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We have still to produce our best, and this is not possible until we meet the right sort of opponents, and that is a team that comes out to play football and not act as animals,”
and it is still true, even today.
4- Yes the animals were and are the Govt leaders and thugs of Ushuaia and elsewhere in Tierra del Fuego. You sure showed the world how to be arses and idiots!
Dec 29th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I watched it with some friends and, to be honest, I spent most of the time pointing out places I had visited and we all agreed how gorgeous Patagonia is on both sides of the Andes. It brought back memories of my time in El Calafate and Ushuaia when the scenery left me speechless - not often that happens.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bariloche is fine and they were referencing its dubious past and why it looks like a Bavarian village. I didn't encounter a dark side, though I heard all the local folk lore and mutterings. It was, however, the place where they allowed the local mobs to loot the stores not too long ago.
Like the presenters, I did not encounter any animosity from anyone on my travels in that part of the country. If you think about it, the whole ambush and attack was orchestrated by a few hard-liners who whipped up a hired mob. The crew were ordered to leave 'in the next 3 hours' and told where to head because the mobs had already been told where to gather, the majority in a town the crew avoided. It could have been a lot worse. They were driven into the ambushes.
So, what does it tell us?
1) The majority of Argentines are just fine - not looking for trouble - and probably ashamed of the thugs involved.
2) TDF is a lawless place when it comes to government hired thugs. Either they were Fat Max's troops let loose, or Fat Max can't control his troops.
3) The police did their best, I thought, in a place where they know they are powerless.
4) You will probably be safer visiting Chilean Patagonia until this mafia government is finally dispatched.
Having visited both Ushuaia twice and Chilean Patagonia once, including Torres del Paine, Punta Arenas and Punta Natales, I think Chile is more beautiful and much more interesting than Argentina. The whole atmosphere in Argentina is more threatening and you notice this more when you are on a bicycle. Even the Chilean dogs are more agreeable. In Valporiso we were accompanied by an ever increasing pack of dogs and only left them behind when we took the fenicular.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Top Gear are right about the beavers, they have reduced the swampy forests near Ushuaia to something resembling the Somme battlefield.
The attack on the Top Gear crew was no doubt organised by Fat Max and his SA. Now KFC is being outed as visibly loopy I do hope that that evil idiot doesnt take her place. Theres a chance that Argentina can recover under the right leader, but where is he/her? What a desperate mess the Kirchners have caused.
It seemed from the programme that the people of Ushuaia were quite happy to be involved in the car football match. The Argentine team cars were already there (and probably had been for some time) and the Argentines were building the pitch. It would have been a fun end to the show and a great advert for visiting Argentina.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let us also remember that the TG team had the full permission of the authorities to film in Argentina (and Chile).
You have to wonder at the mentality of the twits that decided to read something out of nothing into the number plate and think that deserved a lynching. That they could whip up a crowd of thugs and then herd the TG team into an ambush is beyond any rational response.
TG is one of the most watch TV programmes in the world and for Argentina to be portrayed as a lawless country where the police are impotent to protect visitors can only hurt them. The attack went on for hours and they were being driven to an even greater mob when they decided to cut and run for the border. It could have been a lot worse.
I think the TG edit was very restrained in only giving the last 10 minutes to the incident. But it left a lasting impression. Especially the 'welcoming arms of Chile' comment. Chile came out of it very well indeed.
I watched both episodes of the Top Gear program and loved every minute until they reached Argentina and it was pretty obvious even by the most uneducated what potentially was about to happen, some of the comments made by Clarkson indicated it was a set up and what did they expect? Exactly, as it panned out! I can not wait until the BBC allow him to do a program in Ireland with a Black and Tan reference on his car in Dublin, or better still if its in Syria, or Iraq or any number of Middle East countries. No respect for the environment, no respect for the traffic laws, no respect for the dead, on either side. The Argentinean Authorities should have known better as should the British Foreign Office, as advice must have been taken? Even the fact anywhere else in South America, including Argentina would have taken their antics except Ushuaia the most sensitive area, which suffered the most horrendous death toll during that event so many years ago. It’s difficult enough for the city to cope with the devastating loss of life, where until recent times most lost a father, son, grandson, brother, uncle or a school mate, as most were recruited from that tiniest of places. I am sure that the program makers were unaware that prior to its decommissioning HMS Endurance she also did a joint memorial service, in Ushuaia. It’s difficult sometimes and yes tensions do rise from time to time. The ignorance of the situation in that region is beyond belief.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0One assumes no advice was taken, and would you encourage this type of behavior here in the UK. Even down to the traffic and the environment it would be a definite no, as they are aware of the boundaries. Well after what was a cracking start to the program and loads of laughs, here in the Uk lots of us were let scratching our heads.
@9 I don't agree that the TG team set up the lynching by Fat Max's La Campora youth movement. (Why not research them a bit, the videos of their meetings are chilling)
Dec 29th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The TG team had the full backing of the Argentine authorities to film the programme and as it is one of the most watched programmes in the world would have known it was about testing the star cars to the limit. The Argentines in Ushuaia seemed perfectly happy to build the stadium for the car footie match. And all the Argentines featured in the programme were willingly taking part and assisting.
Don't confuse average Argentines with the mobs that work with the full support of the corrupt government. They bus them to locations where they want to cause trouble and intimidation. They are paid in beer and sandwiches. This was not some upset locals but an orchestrated lynch mob from the government led by a Falklands obsessed mad woman as President.
Why do you think the police were powerless? I could tell you but think about it first.
@9 in free countries you don't need to take 'advice' before filming a TV programme.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The TG special was good and it was great to see the great beauty of SA but sad to see the rent a mob Malvistas spoil it for the rest of the country yet again. I would think Castro should be writing to the BBC now after seeing the episode and make an apology for the disgraceful behavior of the Argentinians.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 07 captain
Dec 29th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Having visited both Ushuaia twice and Chilean Patagonia once, ......I think Chile is more beautiful and much more interesting than Argentina.”
and yet you have visited ushuaia twice and chile once...you are not very bright, are you?
and “valporiso”...lol, where the f*ck is that?
if you refer to valparaíso, and if you have ever been in the upper part of los cerros, you would have realized that it is even more dangerous than london during a riot.
not to mention that what they did with the funiculars should be considered a crime.
maybe the knuckleheads thought that a plastic lining was the best option to “restore” them.
@13 Resorting to correcting spelling? Is it the best you can do? You say absolutely nothing about the disgraceful behaviour of the Argentine lynch mob but ramble about the funiculars in Valparaiso.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A random set of text and numbers can yank your chain? Really?
H983? Go on, how does that one wind you up? I bet it doesn't. You won't get the reference so you don't care. A Grenadan might get the reference but I doubt it and a I doubt even more he/she would work themselves into a righteous frenzy about it and start to attack Americans or Cubans. They're not stupid.
How about H979? No? Why not? British paratroopers might get upset and also people who lived in Warren Point in 1979 might get it but probably not unless it was pointed out to them and then they would more than likely roll their eyes and carry on with their lives peacefully......
H974? Go on. Have a pop at that one. Birmingham 1974. Two pubs, the Mullberry Bush and the Tavern in the town. Two bombs 21 murders. I was walking past the Tavern in the Town with my dad about an hour before the bombs went off. I get more upset about the anti Irish sentiment during the initial aftermath and the wrongful arrests and imprisonments of people like the Guildford Four.
How about H945? H812? H776? H745? H066? I bet you'll get maybe two of those references and I doubt you'll get all crazy ape angry about any of them and attack Germans, Americans, Colonists, Jacobites or Normans............
H982 was a random number. Some Argentine idiots chose to interpret it as a reference to a war that Argentina started and feel victimised about because they lost it. Nobody's fault but their own.
You're just like 'Angry for Manchester' writing to complain about all the repeats on TV (Sorry Delamitri), you can read what ever you like into any random text or number you like but only if your mind is f***ed up enough to even care.
Move along. Get a life. Nothing to see here. Just a car show and a large barely organised mob of brain dead idiots running Argentina and another bunch of walking brain dead idiots who attacked the TG crew. TG have nothing to apologise for, Argentina should be ashamed but they're way too f***ed up to be.
@ 11 All filming crews take advice it is in the risk assessments. Insurers insist on it but that bit must have been missed, or over looked? Oddly enough, the program would have been as the critics say, worth watching but bog standered, if they had not of flashed up some of the locals. Job done. It would have gone without incident and with great spirit plus, fun, and a specticle to have witnessed, even for the locals who would have been delighted to get involved in. Hang on the stadium was built out of high double stacked chacons, not really for public consumtion or veiwing was it? Then add the number plate! Bingo.. Not planned ? everything was great until it was noticed. Sadly fuels the flames of this comments page. Albeit, its nice to see a healthy debate instead of the normal slanging match with the occassional obsence language. Its over now and in the UK will probably be forgotten in days, although it looks like they are not getting away with it as they thought even back here with comments in the Uk.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Have you looked into La Campora yet? It might help you understand the situation better.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel for the guys in the tourism parts of the government- not the political appointees but the guys who are desperately trying to bring in hard currency on what I assume is a shoestring advertising budget. They hear that the single most watched factual program in the world is coming to give them a 2 hour long Christmas special, one that is likely to be the watched by several times the population of Argentina, many of them in the key demographics of young and sufficiently cash rich to travel, the exact group they most want to come to see the country. It's the PR equivalent of a winning lottery ticket- the perfect chance to showcase the best of Argentina's scenery in front of a massive chunk of a prized audience demographic without having to drop a single dollar. And for an hour forty they got exactly that- laughs, great visuals and the best feature length advert for the country they could have hoped for without a Lord of the Rings movie being filmed there.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then the Malvanistas showed up for the last twenty minutes and ruined everything.
So the Rgs have given 'human rights' to an orang utan , which means Jeremy is safe from attack. What about human Rgs? Hop on the plane we are just going out over the Atlantic.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Rgs had nearly two hours of free pr to be seen around the world and they blow it. Those shots of the Fitzroy range had me digging out the slides.
Presumably the Thatcher statue will be put up in Thatcher Drive
@18
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bingo!
@14 ElaineB - the idiot child @13 is supposed to be at his favourite beach in Uruguay so he couldn't possibly have seen the programmes. Ergo, he is not qualified to make any comments.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He really is weird!
@21 But he was never going to the beach. Just like TTT is still posting though he is supposed to be away on holiday. You would think they could keep a lie going for more than a fleeting moment.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MoodBrook- you are as bit dumb and unaware of life. A ship has a home port(or had) - its crew come from all over that nation , they are not actually just recruited in the streets by the dock!
Dec 29th, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was none of this current violent anti UK stuff in Ushuaia in the 1990s - until a few years after the Ks came to power and ingnited it and keep it all lit.
#13 Paulie, you are back! How were the turds? On one visit to your damp Southern City I picked up an Antarctic cruise ship to visit our islands. On the second time I cycled there. What a dismal place with that rain stained concrete representation of our Falkland Islands near the harbour. The nearby park is quite scenic though . Pity Puerto Williams hasnt got a decent quay and airport. Punta Arenas is nicer though, nice feeling in the town, nice museum with Shackletons and Magellans deeds honoured , and that nice 1850s map in the folk museum correctly identifying our Falkland Islands.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read a bit of good news: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4308363.ece?shareToken=243de362647f9dc5d87bf8f93fed8320 We pay back our debts…
I have no doubt the Top Gear team will return, the Atacama Desert would make a great location with even more stunning scenery.
Oops I posted this on the wrong thread...
Dec 29th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, Keeping 1000 EU/UK/USA tourists out of Argentina for a season means 100 Rgs in Hotel/high end Restaurant/Tourism lose their jobs.
My guess is the 10 days of garbage sitting on the streets of BA is doing that just fine though. Hard to see that BA is a world class city with mounds of garbage everywhere during the height of tourist season.
Paul, you'd be hard pressed to find a city on the Arg side in Patagonia that is as pretty as Frutillar in Chile . The biggest problem with natural scenery in Argentina is the graffitti. I don't know what is wrong with Rg that they want to ruin their gorgeous natural monuments and vistas with Graffiti and why oh why doesn't the gov't remove it. It shows how disrespectful and out of control the people are there.
Finally I was reading that PDE now has commando assaults on private property and motochorros. What in the world is happening down there? There used to be Zero crime in Uruguay and that is why I almost moved there. Good Gracious Socialism has ruined both countries.
@ 23 Thank you for your input, being a sailor for past thirty years plus , your knowledge is outstanding, and having operated in that region for most of that time. Many thanks for that snippet. I would love to continue on why etc, but I bow to your intelligence.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 017@
Thanks to your reference, albeit the dispute in the 80's as hardly been resolved, just put on hold.
Message is clear - holiday with the super cool Chileans.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forget neanderthal Argentina.
21 gordo boludo
Dec 29th, 2014 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course i didn't watch that crappy show...lol
guess it is exclusively for retards like you.
what else do you watch in your black and white tv set, while eating chips and fish (yuck), you bola de grasa?
let me guess... strictly come dancing?
they are designed for your iq, no?
rest of the ignoramuses:
punta del diablo, you poor illiterate isleters who have never left the shack of pork stanley, is in the northern part of uruguay, near the border with brazil and not in argentina, and it is one of the cleanest spots in the world, you assholes.
not to mention that it is great for surfing, but i strongly doubt that you give a shite for it, since all you want to do is to eat greasy chips and watch tv.
26. The dispute in the 80s have been firmly resolved. Are Rgs incapable of understanding what LOSING means?
Dec 29th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am so tired of worthless Rgs and their ridiculous delusions.
The only thing they seem to understand is a firm kick in the as. Not embarrassing themselves on the world stage day after day and everyone in a position of power telling them they are fools seems to get through their thick heads.
Stupid stupid people
@26
Dec 29th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Put on hold” where on earth do you get that idea from? THE FALKLANDERS have clearly not heard that. They wish to remain “ British ” and I don't see them changing their minds in the next millenium.
#28 You got precisely - in that part of the world you surf in, there is plenty of shite, its floating all over the place because everywhere there is back in the dark ages and discharges raw sewage straight into the ocean. You need to move into the 19th Century, then you can move on to the 20th and 21st in time.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We all noted you are the only knuckle dragging troll stupid enough to comment on the pathetic actions of Fat Max's army. Were you there throwing rocks reputedly paid for with beer and sandwiches? Still, thats just about your level! Some of us are spending our heating allowance for lunch at Le Manoir a Quatre Saisons, not MacDonalds.
31
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“blablabla... in that part of the world you surf in, there is plenty of shite, its floating all over the place because everywhere there is back in the dark ages and discharges raw sewage straight into the ocean”
no, nabo.
that happens in the islets, yuck.
about what happened with top gear, you half wit, i am against the whole bunch of them, both the imbeciles of top gear and the imbeciles who threw the stones.
it seems you lot are the only who do not know the records of that twat clarkson, mocking slopes, niggers, yids, argies, you name the rest.
and what about those bellend plates?
was that a coincidence too?
and of course the idiots who threw the stones were part of the barra of some puntero poliítico.
the funniest thing here is how you, imbecile x 1 million, confuse everything and cannot discriminate between a bunch of ultra ks and the common inhabitant of ushuaia or wherever.
9 Moody Brook (#)
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although this is a copy of the post you made on the pre-show story
Actually the Top gear Christmas special from 2010 they traced the route of the 3 wise men.
Starting in IRAQ they then travel TURKEY, SYRIA, & JORDAN. Then Bethlehem (possibly).
Funnily enough wherever they were recognised they were welcomed with open arms. Oh apart from IRAN where being such a repressive regime the free media of the BBC is banned.
Such a pity that the shit Jeremy Clarkson was not hit by the stones. Someone who called Gordon Brown a 'one-eyed Scottish git' deserves such medicine. He represents everything that is reprehensible about much of contemporary English culture and his popularity is a testimony to the racism, arrogance and cultural shallowness that still pervades large parts of my country.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree, RGs don't understand a firm kick in the ass....sadly, they don't understand what happened in 1982, and the pity/mercy the UK showed them was our mistake.
They invaded, lost, surrendered and a day later restated their claim....no honour
The “kick in the ass” was not hard enough.
What would the Americans, Russians or Chinese have done?
The response in 1982 should have been severe enough that Malvinas was as toxic a word in Argentina as Nazi is Germany.
Turds like Paulcondom and the like should have genuine fear, rather than childish gobshitery.
Never mind, a second attack and weve learned the lesson.
“Funnily enough wherever they were recognised they were welcomed with open arms. ”
Dec 29th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah, right....
Top gear insulting mexicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSyjKmiqoKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSyjKmiqoKk
Jeremy Clarkson 'offensive to Indians in Top Gear Christmas special'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSyjKmiqoKk
the funny thing is that the mocker is the typical englander (fat, decrepit, rotten teeth).
as far as the world knows, they cannot mock anybody.
@36
Dec 29th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a jealous little boy aren't you.
@36 Bitter and twisted. Why not watch it and make informed comment?
Dec 29th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently millions and millions of south Americans are lining up to see it,
Dec 29th, 2014 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great ........
Just watched it this afternoon after recording it over Christmas, I was absolutely astonished at dramatic beauty of Patagonia and the Andes. I couldn't help but think of how the indigenous people would have evolved or what they would have become if they hadn't have been wiped out by the current occupants who stole it and now squat there calling it their country.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then they have the nerve to erect signs on land they stole stating someone else's home belongs to them. These Argentines are unbelievable.
Argentina should really take its own advice, and go home to where they originated from, and give the country back to the original inhabitants,
Dec 29th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after all, they are quick to give others advice..
“Put on hold’’ all it takes is another major crisis, and a failing popularity for one or more politicians, its not just in that region it’s a worldwide these re-occurrences happen on an annual basis. Russia supplies enough planes, ships and ammo, for a nice profit, slip a bit in from the French our so-called Euro mates, and Bingo! Self determination is the goal and rightly so, for all not just this region, but the capacity to enforce that with the major reduction in our armed forces is now at a fraction of it’s capability compared with the 70’s and 80’s. We are living in a changing world. Where we rely on a coalition of forces to act as a deterrent its not that we don’t care, in ten years or so it will be nigh on impossible, unless of course the Antarctic treaty breaks down or looks like it will not be renewed then your fortunes will be overturned under the threat of even a bigger event, The World’s first Fossil Fuel War. I am so glad to have been born in the UK, its a cruel world inhabited at the top of the tree by a species known for its ability to kill it's own type for any reason it feels justified .
Dec 29th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 040
Dec 29th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0those indigenous, you imbecile, consider themselves as argentinians as anybody else.
guess you don't have the slightest idea about who were the original indigenous of the patagonia (search the onas, tehuelches, pehuenches, etc) and who invaded those lands.
read and learn and get informed before posting, you ignoramus.
http://www1.rionegro.com.ar/diario/2009/08/14/1250216431184.php
@43
Dec 29th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell that to the Qom-lik
@43 mamarracho No. 1 AKA paulcedron
Dec 29th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are an idiot child! Do you really think that people are so uneducated as to post statements here only for you to contradict them? You are the IGNORAMUS not the rest of us - get an education before making a fool of yourself with your utterly meaningless idiocies and vulgarities!
45 gordo1
Dec 29th, 2014 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“get an education before making a fool of yourself with your utterly meaningless idiocies and vulgarities!”
.......and rob him of his ONLY purpose in life?
You see, our friend bottyboypaulie has more wit and charm in his little finger than he does in the rest of his entire body.
The ONLY point to his life is that it serves as a warning to others.
@46 toooldtodieyoung
Dec 29th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0paulcedron - wit and charm has no place anywhere near him. Do you remember the old refrain “IF WIT WERE S__T THEN HE WOULD BE CONSTIPATED”?
gordo bola de grasa
Dec 29th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0another ignorant fat and counting...
again, this is for you too, you bola de grasa:
if you dont know a shite about something, just shut your big fat ass, you fatty
@48 You must have a serious weight problem.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 049
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i bet you have a serious overweight problem.
like the rest of the english and english wannabes.
blame your genes.
Why are British girls so fat?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/10863001/Why-are-British-girls-so-fat.html
UK among worst in western Europe for level of overweight and obese people
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/10863001/Why-are-British-girls-so-fat.html
How Britain got so fat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/10863001/Why-are-British-girls-so-fat.html
All distractions.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rotting roadkill, pay your debts.
Where are the trolls? Where are Stink, Narcos etc? All we have it botty boy Paul who is totally ineffective. Gollum CFK and the Trolley Dolly must be fuming after the film featuring Argy thugs shown last night. This will be shown to millions of Top Gear fans in 170 countries worldwide! Great publicity! Shows just what a knuckle dragging regime Britain and the Falklanders have to put up with.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Massive own goal!
Paul, you well know that since most Rgs can't afford beef (or any meat protein) they're gaining a lot of weight filling up on carbs.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I wouldn't be the first one to throw that rock.
BTW Where do you stay in Punta Del Diablo? When I was there I stay in what was considered the best Hotel and it was horrendous. That's kind of a disgusting little town. I didn't like it at all.
On the same trip we stayed NYE night at Cabo Polonio which was just as bad.
Both of those places were described to me as cool little beach town and they are nothing of the sort. They're dirty hippy hovels that are fit for civilized people.
Ack never again.
I wonder if the Argentines heard Clarkson's comment before they arrived in Ushuaia and were camping out-“This is the most beautiful place in the world?.”
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if the number plate issue was supposed to be a wind up, surely the numberplate has to be seen in as many places as possible?
In most of the programme they were driving through country where there was no one-surely if the number plate issue was a deliberate attempt at a wind up wouldn't you drive through all the most highly populated areas to display it?Most of the show displayed fantastic scenery that would be great to visit, and it seemed that Argentina was being portrayed in a fair light-but no matter how Castro whinges, the world will see that armed Argentine police were unable to stop thugs from damaging their tourist industry.
But despite the scale down in size from that South American beauty, my money would be better off re-visiting the Mt Adam range and Mt Usborne in the Falklands which have a scaled down beauty and no morons chucking rocks.
Plus the other thing I hate about supposedly quaint Argentinian town is the were all created by Pulte, all weird and fake with no character. The one that sticks in my mind is San Martin De Los Andes, Rgs rave about it and it just some stupid town with the same stores as in BA with fake “nordic” looking buildings.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs have no idea what a nice place is like.
yankeeboy
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i was in pde, of course.
we went to punta del diablo just for the day.
it is only 2 hours drive.
we are interested in the waves and the beaches, not in the hotels and in punta del diablo the quelity of the waves is great
when have you been there?
in 1970?
Not that long ago, are you trying to say it has changed? I doubt that very much. I was looking at property to buy along the coast so I stopped a lot all the way up to the Brazilian border but decided it was just too remote for me. Plus its really buggy.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It just not a place to go if you are used to traveling to nice places.
Hippy communes are not my style and that's most of Uruguay people reak of pot smoke and have green teeth from smoking so much.
No thanks,
@56
Dec 29th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should have been there in 1970, larger waves and not so much shit in the sea.
Having now watched the show it's a good job the Argentines kicked up such a fuss. The most anticipated show in TG history was also the most dull - until the lunatics showed who runs the asylum.
Dec 29th, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It reminds me of Kim Jong Un giving free advertising to The Interview. That is as dull as ditchwater too.
@13 Most people that have visited both countries will definitely will advised you to visit Chile rather than Argentina and not only because it’s a WAY safer country (second or third in America after Canada and Uruguay), but because nature is less corrupted, due to the topography of the south of Chile it makes it almost impossible for man to spoil it.
Dec 30th, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is el mamarrachio aka paul cedron the only person who reads the Guardian? I don't even see it on the newsstands around my neighbourhood and I live in a LibDem constituency although the Lord Mayor and ruling party in the city is Conservative.
Dec 30th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is el mamarracho aware that nobody in the UK takes much notice of the Guardian and it is, anyway, hovering on bankruptcy.
Dream on, idiot child!
61 flatulent fat.
Dec 30th, 2014 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0and who the fuck cares if nobody reads the guardian, you asshole?
have you ever googled something?
when it is about england, the islets, etc, it is always the same shitty newspapers: the guardian, the telegraph, the mirror, the sun, ort even worse, penguin news (lol) and merdopress.
the whole english press stinks, you halfwit.
this type of argentine thugery should not be tolerated they need to face up to the facts that they invaded a peaceful nation and in turn were defeated and told to bugger off back to the cesspit that the call a country
Dec 30th, 2014 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Best in Travel 2015(#2)
Dec 30th, 2014 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lonelyplanet.com/best-in-travel/cities/02-el-chalten
And what was number 1 Marcos?
Dec 30th, 2014 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0WASHINGTON DC!
Bahahahaha
Oh by the way, thanks for the plug. Lonely Planet is based in Footscray just 15 minutes drive from my house in Melbourne Australia.
Founded and staffed by AUSSIES.
One thing I can honestly say is that they is a lot of Argentine country that is very similar to the USA. My wife's family still lives there (God bless them and help them). And I have to say I've always enjoyed myself there in spite of the idiots hell bent on flushing Argentina into the cesspool.
Dec 30th, 2014 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Missed the initial airing, - But watched it on Iplayer last night - Figgin hilarious!
Dec 31st, 2014 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a spectacle of nasty childish brain dead malvanistas at the end.
Well done Top Gear!
“we are interested in the waves and the beaches,not in the hotels”
Jan 01st, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0How does this tie up with your obsession with the Falklands ?
According to you they have no hotels, boutiques, etc. but you say that this is not important to you in P D D.
I sense a slight dichotomy here !
As to your 3 meter waves, that's a calm day where I live.
Just now, near me there are sailboarders getting airborne in 60kph winds in temperatures of +7°c. So, 3 metre waves do not impress. Sounds like a bunch of wimps taking a warm bath..Two weeks ago we had 37 metre waves off our Atlantic coast. I would be impressed with anyone tackling that !
grandpa
Jan 01st, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you don't know too much about surfing, do you?
so, why don't you shut it?
@69
Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're about as scary as a feather duster. Glad to see your surfboard is one of the flagships of the glorious Argentine Navy.
#69
Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poseur.
Touched a raw nerve , have we ? I had all the Beach boy's records in the 60's.
What else is there to know.
You don't have to know a thing about a subject on this site to hold forth as an expert. You demonstrate this in every post you make.
If you shut up then maybe I will also..
71 Clyde15
Jan 02nd, 2015 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our dear enemy bottybotpaulie is a fr*ggin expert on everything dontyouknow????
He has spent his time knowing more and more about less and less until, today, he knows absolutely EVERYTHING about NOTHING.
If he were ever to appear on mastermind, his chosen subject would be “Nothing at all”
Still, could be worse, he could living in a country where the president is stealing all the tax dollars and is running the economy into the ground........
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