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Cristina Fernandez travels to the south; ankle fracture convalescence could take over a month

Wednesday, December 31st 2014 - 03:48 UTC
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Argentine President Cristina Fernandez, who is suffering from a broken ankle, left on Tuesday afternoon for Calafate in Santa Cruz province, after doctors allowed her to travel. She plans to spend New Year with the family and in good spirits twitted about the authorization, presented her smallest pet, a toy-caniche “Lolita” and announced that small pets will be allowed to travel in all domestic Aerolineas and Austral flights. Read full article


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    “and must keep her leg in the air”

    nudge, nudge wink, wink

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    My first thought also.... thats how she, and Evita, got the jobs in the first place.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Cristina also thanked all the sad English losers that wished her well.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    So she flew to BA to get an Xray and then needed the doctor's clearance so she could fly back whence she came..... oh OK.

    So...its official then , you can't get an xray south of BA.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Cristina announced that small pets will be allowed to travel in all domestic Aerolineas and Austral flights, not you Frank the Yank.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @5 -“Small Pets” - Well that's you out of luck then Marcos, as i don't think that includes you since your just a turtle's head! lol

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    These things always come in threes.
    Hope the plane doesn't crash.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Only an Argie would want to be in the same aeroplane cabin as their pet dog/cat when it farts and throws up.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    A limited number of small dogs and cats are allowed on flights in a number of countries so Argentina is not unique. Having travelled on Aerolineas many times I know they are cramped and that the passengers are inclined to flaunt any and all rules. It is the only airline I have experienced people standing up when the plane is landing, ignoring the flight attendants completely and flighting over space in the overhead bins. Rules are there to be broken, right? I just can't see them sticking to the rules regarding pets onboard. JMO

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Thank God that Mercopress picks up these vital world-shattering matters for ; international concern: dogs and cats permitted by Royal Decree (CFK) on airlines...Sympathy (ahhh! pets- and -us) tactics linked with injured ankle connections. All part of Leadership.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Elaine, I recognise your description of Latino airlines. The worst of all is Iberia, a true basket case. I once watched a looney bloke roaming around the cabin during landing whilst the Iberia cabin crew sat and gossiped. The food stinks (if there is any). My Aerolinas flights were unmemorable.

    Perhaps a dog will bite her other ankle in flight, that will serve her right.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Cristina also thanked all the sad English losers that wished her well
    not in the text above.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I hope the “ small pets ” don't get carried away and do exactly what the Argentine conscipts did and shit and piss wherever they took a fancy to. Can you imagine the dog fights and sitting there minding your own business and a dog comes along and cocks it's leg and pisses on your leg. I thought CFK was a bit crazy but I don't think she has thought this through.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @11 I have avoided Iberia because of its terrible reputation. Unfortunately BA have merged with them and they dominate some of the routes to SoAm. Fortunately I can schedule some work stops in the U.S. and travel south from there to avoid using them. I really enjoy the LAN dreamliners, great service and comfortable beds.

    Remember the Aerolineas pilots fighting in the cockpit?

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I would never fly Aerolinas Argentina. They don't maintain their planes and they have the oldest long haul airplanes in the world.

    Small pets are allowed on most airlines but they're limited to 1 per cabin for $75. You have to buy a carrier that fits underneath the seat.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @15 I haven't flown long haul with Aerolineas, just reading the reviews is horror enough but there is often no choice for domestic flights and I needed to get around.

    Yes, small pets on domestic flights is not that unusual but I can't imagine people sticking to the rules there.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Elaine, as an economy passenger on the Dreamliner to Santiago and back I agree that LAN are fantastic, must be great in business class but in retirement its either economy or many less trips. The only problem was the sub Ryanair Iberia flight to Madrid to pick up LAN. I could not believe the no food or drink policy. We took sandwiches on the way back. To get to Costa Rica we flew to the US where we had to go in and out via immigration rather than fly on bloody Iberia on the way there and the way back. Problem is we want to go to Peru next? Hmmm..

    Lame duck President takes on a new meaning!

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentina Treasury just borrowed, on the last day of the year mind you, U$13 BILLION from BCRA. At 1 point under LIBOR.
    What in the world are these numbskulls doing?
    I really think their intent is to create such a financial disaster for the next Prez that there is no way for them to get out of it.

    Inflation will be well over 50% even with the economy in deep recession.

    It baffles my mind.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @5. “Cristina announced that small pets will be allowed to travel in all domestic Aerolineas and Austral flights”. Just to avoid any accusation of preferential treatment. But at least we can see what 'small pets' will be allowed on board. Rats, vipers, piranha, sharks (small), hyenas, most lizards, octopii, venomous spiders are all possibilities. A new age of 'freedom'! Until something gets on to the flight deck and kills the pilots. I wonder what the IATA rules say? In latest news, an Aerolineas flight was left circling for 10 hours whilst attempts were made to recapture a pet rat. Eventually, the aircraft was allowed to land and everything on board was gassed. The body of the rat was eventually discovered after 212 human (argie) bodies had been removed. In breaking news, IATA has declared that argie aircraft will not be allowed, under any circumstances, to land in any other country. Ever. Member airlines are authorised to request national governments to destroy argie aircraft in the air in such a way that nothing can survive.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    With so many planes going missing this year, all from around about the same area,

    one also has to wonder why some more of these south American airways don't suffer more problems from lack of maintenance,

    I could well be wrong...

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @17 Maybe fly through Miami and pick up a LAN flight to Lima? I don't think the dreamliner is on that route yet but it would surely be better than Iberia? Or you could get an Air France flight from Amsterdam to Lima for pretty good prices. A Chilean friend of mine who lives in Europe uses the Paris - Santiago route often and says Air France is quite acceptable both in Economy and Business. Just suggestions.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    So she can take her dog on a flight she changes the law but i am finding it hard to distinguish which ones the dog in the photo

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • commonsparrow

    Dogs should be crated while on a plane, for everyones safety. Lets start focusing more on safety than cutesy.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    I'm guessing that no one else flew Royal Jordanian back in the day and that none of you have ever shared an aisle seat with a goat. lol.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    What a god awful looking bitch in the photo.

    The dog looked cute though.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porto Margaret


    Nah chronic, that was a young Alicia Castro. Just with some lipstick on.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I flew with Libyan Arab Airlines many years ago and they ( the locals ) would have to be told not to light up the camping gas stoves to have a chi ( tea ) whilst travelling on the plane. When the planes had successfully landed a cheer went up. Fortuneately most of the pilots were of European descent. They also took no notice of the cabin crew when landing.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @3 Marquitos Alejandrito

    I will wish la Kretina well and even congratulate her the day she resigns and allows Argentina to get back on its feet and be the true nation it ought to be!

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    28 El Gordo
    Insults rarely make up an argument Gordo. That's what opponents in Argentina and outside the country have been showing. They will need a bit more imagination to put together a program to entice Argentine voters. In the meantime, the government keeps working even in New Year's Eve.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    20 Enrique

    To counter the damage created by CFK, The country needs

    Removal of corrupt authorities
    Revised tax structure away from the Middle Class
    Reduced Socisl programs
    Reduced unemployment benefits

    That won't be an easy sell for any successor.

    The Peronists have ensured you guys are screwed for generations

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    I don't know about air travel, but Anglos are by far the most sordid yucky eaters one can ever encountered. All anglos, so it must be cultural.

    They pick their teeth with their fingers, they burp on the table, they talk over each other in discussion opening wide their content-filled mouths, eat so quickly one wonders how they can enjoy anything, and virtually always find abusing alcohol and being seen arseholed publicly as a badge of honor.

    To each culture their own.

    Dec 31st, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    LAN is the best Latin American airline.
    Some of the best pilots as well.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    Which is not saying much. Like when NorthAmoans bragging to be the best wine makers in North America, or Finns bragging to have the best pristine wildernesses in Europe.

    It's like being the head of the mouse staring at the tail of the lion.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 31 You clearly know very few anglos(?)! Why don't you spend a day at St Georges College or St Andrews College, both in Buenos Aires, in order to learn how the anglos(?) teach table etiquette and manners?

    Stupid troll!

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    Oh ffffs, just learned ONCE to take some criticism of your nation or culture!

    Yeah, and ride the private jet of argentine polo players to see proper airplane ettiquete...

    I guess generalizations are cool except when they apply to you, huh?

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0


    Sorry did you say something? I was too busy yawning.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Huh ??

    What happened?

    Did I miss something?

    Umm, not important, I guess!

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Happy New Year!

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    After convalescence she will only have 10 months in power, notice I deliberatly did not say govern after all she is a dictator in all but name.
    Happy New Year to all the decent Argentinians and I hope they get what they vote for, although it is a massive task ahead. Pity the country has been so run down by the Peronistas, it will take generations to become a decent country again.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Surely she doesn't need to not work for a month because of a broken ankle. We should call her Sick Note.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @31. I can see your problem. Indeed I've often seen argies trying to adjust to civilised behaviour. Have argies ever heard of forks? Don't you think it's a mistake to vomit during a meal? Or is just a greedy desire to eat the same thing again? There is, of course, a desire to speak rather than allow argies to monopolise 'conversation'. Perhaps argies should learn to 'listen'.

    Perhaps you could take the time to learn not to invade, occupy, murder, rape, commit genocide and/or lie. Might be slightly more important than the ingestion of alcohol.
    @35. Criticism? Tell us about how you respond to criticism of your invasions, occupations, murders, rapes, war crimes, corruption, criminality, deviancy, genocides, larceny, mendacity, bestiality, xenophobia. You have so many CRIMES to explain. Quit trying to divert attention.

    We know what our nation has done. We can relate occurrences to the 'norms' at the time. By the 19th century you'd had a thousand years to learn to be civilised. But you stayed in the Dark Ages. Suited your 'personalities'. Time is running out. You may think you can call the shots. In reality, you are a tiny little insect that can be swatted when we choose.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    She doesn't need to take time of. The highly gifted Argentine Army engineers could make the lower section of a Dalek for her to keep her mobility and this hideous apparition would entice the BBC to pay an absolute fortune to get her into a Dr Who series.

    The income would help Argentina's economy (a bit) unless she copped the money herself and heal the rift with the BBC. To return to the hide-behind- the -sofa scariness of Dr Who, Castro could also be put into a Dalek.

    The usual mantra of 'Exterminate' would of course be replaced by the Malvinas Myth Mantra in the vain hope of indoctrinating 'all' Dr Who fans.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    To all foreign fiend and losers:

    I really don't celebrate “new years”, this is just another EUian imperialist construct, of Italian origin. It is no more “2015” today, as it is year month 7 of year 2 b.TTT.

    However, by the end of this “2015”, you tossers will have had your wish... no more CFK.

    See how it works? You don't get to overthrow her like you have been whinging since 2011, you get to wait for your turn according to the constitution, something you brits would have no clue about, since you have no and do things at the whims of kings and queens.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @43 Of course you don't celebrate New Year. You would need some friends for that.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @43 You must be the most ignorant troll we have had around for a long time!

    Where do you get the idea we “do things at the whims of kings and queens”? We have enjoyed democracy in the United Kingdom since long before Cristobal Colón ”discovered(?)” America - have you never heard of the Magna Carta?

    Feliz Añ0 Nuevo.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    Why 2015? Because some Roman emperor decided it to be so?

    I don't follow EUian nonsense.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #43 Toby the tit - but, as an Argy you are of European origin probably a Latino by the sound of your senseless babbling. Theres no escaping it, its in your DNA. The only time your basket case country prospered and functioned well was when it was run by the British, its all been downhill since you Latinos took over. Go and look at those British Post Boxes, telephone boxes, traffic lights and railway tracks and imagine how everything ran well because of the Brits. Have a read up on Magna Carta and a Parliament to see how things should run.
    Heres a little reading matter to get the idea…

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    Funny, before about 1700 all the British touched turned into absolutely wretched barbarism. In fact from about 500BC till then, England was known as a worthless, completely uneducated backwater compared to mainland Germany, Italy, France, or Spain.

    So just because you've had your moment in the sun last 200 years means nothing. Get off your high horse.

    Today you couldn't run Andorra properly if you could get your greedy hands onto them.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    Chopper, this article is really about how Kirchner's own provincial government refused to pay a bill for performed maintenance and caused an entire province to do without the most basic modern medical services. It only came to public notice after your dear leader had too much to drink celebrating one of your favorite non holidays.
    After finding out the hard way, your dear leader commandeered the airport for a few hours while flights going in and were held up, angering many “little people.” Then your dear leader went to BA for an X ray(!) and flew back with a dog on board. Now I realize you don't give a flying flip about the “little people,” but you've got a problem.
    Here's a tip,(although I suspect you already know this.) If and when you ever set up that personal autarky you dream of, you are going to have to chop off heads. A LOT of them. ;)

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    Just posting to take up my shoe size number.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @50 Thus putting your foot in it - again!

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    That's physically a common occurrence with me, but noetically, never. I'm 10 steps ahead of all of you. When you are going on this road, I have gone, come back, done it again, returned to your going location and ran circles around you.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    I think Meth heads say that. ;)

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @46 No one told me to celebrate, least of all 'some Roman Emperor'. But it is a national holiday here today so most people enjoy the company of friends and family, and get together. Of course, you would need some friends and people that care about you for you to understand that concept. It would seem from the many messages I received from friends in Argentina that they were doing much the same thing as me. It is just you that is an anti-social outcast.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #47 The past has little relavence apart from the fact that it can give clues to what we are doing right or wrong at this moment in time. And, its this moment in time that has the greatest relavence to us all including you. As if you didnt need reminding your beligerant country has got itself into an unholy mess that is adversly effecting the vast majority of the population. Its no use denying it, its the truth. Our country is doing pretty well with the vast majority able to live fulfilling lives. We do have relatively small pockets of deprivation, some of it self inflicted but we have rid ourselves of a socialist government that caused us to have a massive debt. We are out there in all parts of the world trying our best to make the sick and underprivilegeds lives a bit better. Your basket case nation does absolutely nothing because many of you have the European Latino manana lazybone attitude that doesnt want to work and thinks only of themselves. You are nonentities on the world stage only noted for whingeing, not paying your debts, and constantly lying and cheating. Dont try to lecture us you sad little git. Grow up and take those tablets regularly.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    I will lecture you all I want. I have about as much right as you.


    I am working very hard to make people see they have been brainwashed by Euro-foreign ideas.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @56 Wouldn't that involve contact with people and using the force of your personality to convince them? A little charm goes a long way when influencing people. And what about the fact that 50% will be women? You despise ALL women, no exceptions. You are doomed if you can't connect with people.

    Why not work very hard at improving your social skills? Your life would improve immeasurably.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Bahahaha Toby! You… are working very hard… in MacDonalds? Euro foreign ideas? What could a flatfooted mesomorphic burger flipper tell any of us. I suppose you could give us the lowdown on setting tyres alight, the best size throwing rocks to choose or where to pick up the best cardboard. We look forward to the lecture..

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    48 Cruise ConTroll

    “In fact from about 500BC till then, England was known as a worthless, completely uneducated backwater compared to mainland Germany, Italy, France, or Spain.”

    Tut, tut, tut Tobi!!!!!

    Jealousy never got anyone anywhere, didn't your mother ever tell you that?

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Maybe he is the son of La Kretina - Máximo, right? - trying to defend his mamacita!

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “I am working very hard to make people see they have been brainwashed by Euro-foreign ideas.”

    Atta boy, Chopper, you do that thing. Always stress the part about stiffing foreign companies for money owed them. In the long run, I am sure that you fellow citizens will all be struck by the force of your arguments.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Look at the current state of disrepair of their Hospitals!
    No windows
    Moldy peeling paint

    I guess they're lucky they have electricity, lots of BA has been out for days.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Toby, you definately want to influence people and as Elaine so accurately says make friends. Theres a book for that, written in 1924 but so relavent today, by Dale Carnegie… look it up… .

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    TTT couldn't talk someone out of a burning car. He is impotent in every part of his life. Sad.

    @62 I think we have the reason so many Argentine posters are going nuts. They are finally seeing the reality.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    If you bothered to check, you would have noted that there were no countries called France, Germany or Spain in 500BC In 500BC there were no Angles in the British lsles. They did not arrive until about 500AD, so, sloppy work again - failed.
    What year is it on your planet ?
    As to calendars, the Chinese have their own as do the Muslims and Hindus.
    I agree with you on this one. You are definitely going round in circles because you have lost the place.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    64. Yes I think reality started to interfere with their Nationalistic Mass Delusions sometime in Mid 2014.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “TTT couldn't talk someone out of a burning car.”

    The concept suggests a darkly amusing dilemma. The victim must choose, will it be burning or beheading? The bonfire or the blade? I am sure Chopper would be dismayed at how many would not listen to him. ;)

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    Happy New Year to everyone! Except TTT who doesn't care about it of course.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    I presume that it is obvious to everyone posting her, that this nutty CruiseConTroll Turd, is no other than GiorgyPorgy the Greek, aka, 4nTroll.....'it' can change its name as often as it wants, but its same stupid ideas always come through the non-sensical rambling.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @69 Yes, it is TTT under one of his many names. (Truth Telling Troll) was one of his early names and I tend to stick with it.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    What say ye now, rotting roadkill? No more RUFO red herring? What is your next excooooooose? lol Bad moon is rising. The BCBA has tanked and even so the blue is north of 14 paysos. Since the black market exchange rate has been disconnected from the Merval it's driven only on private demand as opposed to institutional fundamentals. Commodities - corn/soy/oil still haven't found a bottom on lower chinese demand. Twenty (20) rotting roadkill paysos to the Yankee Dollar by March? lol.

    G E R O N I M O !

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 29 Enrique Massot
    I have only just noticed your post and, honestly, don't see where, in this instance, am I arguing. I am just suggesting that la Kretina will be better off once she has handed the Presidency of Argentina to a better qualified person.

    Jan 01st, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    Unfortunately for you, Griesa, his boylover Singer, and the others broke the 1st cardinal rule of money:

    “Don't piss of the one holding your money”.

    They aren't and won't be seeing a cent. RUFO, no RUFO, CFK, no CFK.

    Too bad.

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    Regardless of others relationships, it seems clear that Kirchner's governmental policies have resulted in a “denial of service” of rudimentary facilities for the populace of Santa Cruz. I do hope whatever pain she experienced has added to her life experience. One can do no more. ;)

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    How would you fix the problem, genius?

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Why by putting you in charge, putting a largish punal in hand, then telling you to get to work. You telling me you are uneducated?

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 04:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    We would not let it get so bad in the first place. You Argies are prepared to put up with all kinds of shit, us on the otherhand are not and tell our Government to fix it.
    If they don't we change the Government but that rarely happens as it is fixed pronto.

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #75 Paginia Boi!!! How was your New Year's Eve? Slobbering over papi's strapping chorizo? I bet papi is one happy guarani knowing he has your buns to bury he chorizo. That he give you all his chimichurri? I hope you cleaning up pagina boi. Cuba is waiting for you peni...they have a manmade vagina with your name on it. “Tobi's toy for papi”

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    35. “Yeah, and ride the private jet of argentine polo players to see proper airplane ettiquete...”


    The average rotting roadkillian pro can barely read and write and often eats with their hands. Please don't hold them up as a model of proper manners. lol. And most of the wimps can't hardly strike a ball more than 75 yardas. lol. The hardest hands of all but the Mongolians. Hardly horsemen at all. I wish I had a nickel for every time I had to wire one Western Union enough gas money to make it in. Jets indeed. lol. Oh - and whiners extraordinaire - win or lose. Please - no more references to polo by a perronista camper. lol.

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    In fact from about 500BC till then, England was known as a worthless?????

    how would you know this,
    were you there, were you alive ?no you were not,

    and if you understood history, you would know neither was

    and the argies are still crying the victim,

    some things never

    the islands are still British,

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    73. Remember the Golden Rule: The man with the Gold makes the Rules and that man is Paul Singer, et al.

    Capitalists have made so much money shorting rotting roadkillian interests that anything else is just a bonus.

    perronista campers will starve.

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville


    Tobi, you still don't get what the holdout case is about, do you?

    The case is centered around bonds that were issued AFTER the big Argie default in 2000. Your country desperately needed $$$, and could only get it by agreeing to bonds under special terms. Issued under US laws, subject to US courts, and above all, not to short or restructure them. Then your country turned around and did that anyway, precisely what you promised NOT to do. THAT is why the courts have all ruled against Argentina. Once they read the actual language of the bonds, they could not find any other way.

    The fact that the bonds got sold and ended up in someone else's hands, that's how all bonds work. That is what you do with bonds...

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  • Briton

    Falklands – Can “Little Boats” Win War Of Words?

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  • imoyaro


    Just remember, it isn't the holdouts that did this to the people of Santa Cruz. It's Kirchner, her factotums run the province, and the provincial government was the responsible entity to pay for the maintenance of the hospital machines. Over a year and a half ago, the scanner underwent maintenance and a bill was sent to the provincial government. Not millions of dollars here, we are talking about routine maintenance that was done on a machine that was already paid for. Whatever the cost, let's say a few thousand USD,( kinda doubt it would be more,) the provinvial government refused to pay, and when the machine eventually needed more maintenance, it was left sitting gathering dust.Five days before Kirchner got drunk, the X ray machine also broke down. Naturally, nobody comes to fix the machines. So you tell me, why wasn't the bill paid to begin with? Up till the drunk fell down, nobody cared about the people who lived there. They spent more money on the bar bill of the presidential Christmas party.

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  • toooldtodieyoung

    75 Cruise ConTroll

    “How would you fix the problem, genius?”

    Tut, tut, tut Tobi!! Shame on you. As previously pointed out, you are incapable of having an original thought.

    This is not our problem tobi, It's yours!!!

    so the question should be, genius “How are you going to fix the problem?”

    If your intellect is as big as you claim it is, this should take you no more than 15 minutes to write a concise, lucid posting on how the people of TDC can get this all squared away.

    So go for it, dazzle and amaze us all ( IF you can.............. )

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    Well I did suggest that he should take a large blade and get to chopping. It's easier than, say, paying a bill. ;)

    Jan 02nd, 2015 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll

    How which one is it, UK?

    Deport Prince Andrew to the US and be the land of jumpsuit royals, or not deport him and be hailed as the new beacon of freedom for pedophiles?


    Burn baby burn

    Jan 03rd, 2015 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    As far as rhetorical choices go, I much prefer the dilemma mentioned above about you and the person in a burning car. Which is it to be, the Fire or the Facon? Burning or the Barbarian? Decisions, decisions. :)

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  • HansNiesund


    That's easy. We won't do either. We'll let the law decide. It's not Arjunteena here, you know.

    Jan 03rd, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The city of Rosario is in complete collapse based on its murder rate. Most likely the “official” number is also a low number.
    I live in a Major USA city and Rosario had 17.5X more murders than we did!
    It is incredible.
    Pretty soon the USA DEA is going to be worried Argentina has turned into a full Narco State.
    These types of things compound upon themselves and get exponentially worse year after year. I can't see the gov't intervening since they are part of the mess. Everyone is getting paid while the people suffer and the society collapses.

    Sad but its as I predicted

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  • gordo1

    @87 Why deport Prince Andrew to the US? If you read the news correctly he is not a defendant in the case presently being presented in Florida. It is a disgrace that his name should be brought up as it has been yet he has been accused officially of nothing.
    It is scurrilous slander and he should sue the perpetrator.

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  • Captain Poppy

    #87 There's MP's favorite self proclaimed trans-sexual. How's business Pagina Boi? Keeping up with your estrogen shots?

    Question Pagina does a country go about deporting it's own citizen as you suggest in #87?

    We all know just how little you know. Do you comprehend that this is a civil case and allegation and not criminal? Not that it matters in your world.

    Pagina should move to Ciudad de Buenos Aires and give you papi a your pendejo and start working on your knees.

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  • toooldtodieyoung

    87 Cruise ConTroll

    ”So go for it, dazzle and amaze us all ( IF you can.............. )”

    WELL tobi, can I be the first congratulate you. You certainly rose to my challenge and let me just say, that it is something of an impossibility, you actually suck and blow at the same time!!

    Doubtless you are not on this particular thread, for, as pointed out by another poster ( Eliane B I think ) that, when the going gets tough, Tobi runs away...........

    Well done child, it is getting increasingly difficult to under estimate you.

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  • imoyaro


    “new beacon of freedom for pedophiles”

    You speak, of course of your own dear Chopper's Republic of Argentina. If you look you will see that they decriminalized the possession of Child Pornography under the new criminal code “reform.” Quite a place you got going, there, Chopper, quite a place. ;)

    Jan 03rd, 2015 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll



    TDC? I thought this was about Santa Cruz?

    And in either case, I could give a f---. Not my problem, let them deal with it, they already get enough of MY taxes to subsidize them. It's not a Mendoza problem, its theirs.

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Love it. Not my problem. It's great, you support the injustice! Screw you,“Intellectual Juggernaut,” you need a punal to the tripas!

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    It's a federal republic, each province is it's own nation-state just without a military. They even have border control powers. THEIR problem.

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Like I said, you need a punal the tripas, but lets' face it, that's you're problem. ;)

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    98 imoyaro

    I think that we are “floggin a dead horse” here. Chopper / tittyboy tobi / TTT is so monumentally stupid that no amount of pointing out his problems is going to do any good...........

    Still, it could be worse. He could be living in a country where his president constantly embarrasses the entire nation on the world stage..............

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I think we are all TTT has.

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    97. That's such a lie. Provinces have very little taxing authority and must beg the Federal Gov't (President) for revenue. The provinces that are in good standing with the Prez do well as long as they do what they say, the ones that don't well...they and their citizens are pretty well screwed.
    In the civilized world we call that a Dictatorship.

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Well, on the bright side, she'll be staying out of the limelight for a little while, and leaving the dreck spouting for the usual suspects.‘to-cause-regional-financial-meltdow

    Jan 04th, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    102 I am surprised Chiquito didn't mention the imminent collapse of Venezuela as part of his Yankee conspiracy theory.
    I am sure he just forgot.
    That Austral Elvis is dumb as a box of rocks.

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  • ElaineB

    @103 But are you following him on twitter?

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  • Cruise ConTroll


    Burn baby burn

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    Drink up! ;)

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Kool-Aid, but no financial aid.

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cruise ConTroll


    Burn baby burn

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro


    Party on Dude. Break a leg! ;)

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    108. You're posting abotu 10-12 people protesting in California? Good gracious you've really hit rock bottom.

    If I were you I worry that Mendoza has 7X more murders by population than what considered the most dangerous cities in the USA.
    It sounds like you shouldn't walk the streets during the day!

    I would love to see the crime stats for Mendoza, even though they are woefully underreported I'd still love to compare them to where I live. Can you send me the link?

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “If I were you I worry that Mendoza has 7X more murders by population than what considered the most dangerous cities in the USA.
    It sounds like you shouldn't walk the streets during the day!”

    Ya know, that might just be because Chopper walks the streets at night. ;)

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  • yankeeboy

    MERVAL down 6% so far today and YPF is U$3B below what CFK paid for it and going lower.
    I wonder when YPF will run out of cash and have to cut back drilling?

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @105&108 Cruising out of conTroll / Giorgy / 4NTrolley/ fooling no-one
    What's this fixation you've got about the Ku Klux Klan and Black Brunch ? You've obviously never been to the US - or anywhere else for that matter - so why do you keep on hacking at the same subject ?? pretty clear you have no experience of what you're blabbing about, so why don't you do something about it ??

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “ why do you keep on hacking...”

    What else can Chopper do? Chopper thinks that North Americans showed a singular lack of rigor in failing to exterminate African American and Indigenous peoples, unlike his clearly morally superior Chopper's Republic of Argentina, which has done a pretty good job of “cleaning up the landscape.” Self-styled “Intellectual Juggernauts” can think that way. It's what they do. ;)

    Jan 05th, 2015 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @114 imoyaro
    You're right, but as they say, “the best method of defence is attack”....problem with the big-foot is that he doesn't have even the slightest notion of what he's writing about.

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  • yankeeboy

    115. Yeah it is seriously nutty that the K supporters try to show that the USA EU UK has similar and sometimes worse problems then they have in Argentina.
    I can tell you right now we don't have muliple 100K+ cities without water for 5 days at a time because of lack of maintenance, corruptions and incompetence. Or rolling blackouts in our major cities all season long.
    It is insanity
    I can't not understand why they choose to live like this?
    Year after year, decade after decade, generation after generation getting poorer and dumber, DEVOLVING and they sit back and do nothing.
    Its either Apathy or Stupidity or a combination of the two,

    Jan 06th, 2015 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “You've obviously never been to the US”

    Actually I was wondering briefly if he was an expat in Florida, but clearly not the same guy. ;)

    Jan 06th, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @116 yb
    “I can't not understand why they choose to live like this?”

    It's not a matter of choice. They know no better. Only those who have travelled abroad, to 1st world countries, realize how things could/should be, and what they are missing out on. When they return, the comparison is inevitable, and the more intelligent ones decide they aren't going to put up with the shite any longer. And the others ? well, they they just keep on voting for CF...

    Jan 06th, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    ...and at the bottom of that death spiral even the dumbest of voters will realize that their civilian politicians are just greedy, corrupt, and incompetent. Then they will start to listen to some army general who promises to “restore” the country and make it powerful, strong, and fearsome again...

    Jan 07th, 2015 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Oh, great...

    Jan 07th, 2015 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @120 Troy
    While, on principle, I prefer a - decent - civilian government to a Military regime, I've got to defend the Military in Brazil, who in 1964 prevented the country from being delivered into the hands of the USSR and other stinking (local) communists. The fact that they stayed in power for 21 years was mainly because they did not believe Brazilians were ready for 'democracy'....No-one denies that they stepped over certain limits with regards to human rights, but what most people don't see - or don't WANT to see, is that there was already an armed movement against the civilian government ('democratically' elected in 1960) under way in 1961, and what these so-called 'freedom-fighters' did, is now conveniently swept under the carpet. The one-sided “Comissão Nacional da Verdade” (National Commission for the Truth), instituted by the PT, denied the Military the right to investigate the crimes perpetrated by the leftist guerillas (as of 1961 - kidnapping civilians for ransom, bank robberies, assaulting and blowing up Military barracks to rob explosives and firearms, political assassinations, all with dozens of civilian, as well as many military casualties).....The fact remains that I, managed to get on pretty well with my life, without the slightest hassle from the did everyone else who was not involved with the armed rebellion. Another thing to be said for the Military - they were relatively honest - all 5 Military presidents left office with the same assets as when they got in. No millionaires. The proof that the Military was right in being concerned about the civilians ability to resume power, became apparent shortly after the 1st civilian president, José Sarney took office. With the exception of Fernando Henrique Cardoso (2 terms, 1995-2002), all civilian presidents after 1985, screwed up big-time. The PT is here to prove it.

    Jan 07th, 2015 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 121 Jack Bauer

    I never realised that Brazil already had a bunch of Tupas (a la Uruguay).

    Here in Uruguay we have the edifying spectacle of the rump of the Tupas (now the Broad Fraud) still wanting to prosecute the military after THEY were the cause of the military Rule.

    I never believed my Uruguayo friend who told me the whole of SA is one big fuck-up: but he's right!

    Jan 08th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @122 ChrisR
    The problem is that today, the PT government is infested with these leftist a.holes, all professing to be defenders of human rights....something they disrespected in the 60's and 70's, without the slightest weight on their conscience. It's all just a dirty political game, they'll do and defend anything, as long as it keeps them in power. And the younger generations here just know what they read about - when they bother to read anything at all - and think it was all very romantic...a bunch of misinformed wankers who don't have enough brain to realize they are being 'had'.

    Jan 08th, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    121 Jack

    I am not necessarily opposed to military rule - as you say, it sounds like it was better than corrupt civilian rule that was not 'rule by law'.

    Too bad things need to go to such drastic measures to clean house of the incompetents and crooks.
    Interesting post from you.


    Jan 09th, 2015 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @124 Troy,
    Considering the options in 1964, Brazil came out winning. Considering the options in 2015, if the Government keeps on with the same crap, Brazil will end up losing. If civilian governments did their job, reasonably efficiently, and with a minimum of prevarication and corruption, there would be no need for the Military to intervene.

    Jan 09th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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