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Falklands contribution to the development of sheep farming in Magallanes
The close historic and farming links between the Falkland Islands and the Magallanes Region, were underlined in a recent article by Punta Arenas researcher Silvestre Fugellie dedicated to sheep farming, the 'golden fleece' that changed the economy of those barren lands in the extreme south of Chile over a century ago. Read full article
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Jan 08th, 2015 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
I love the way you wheel Bingham every time. Surely you must be able to dig out something else. I know that we have a decent community but surely you can find some dirt that is less a decade old. Also the fact that it written by him detracts from the impartiality wouldn't you say.
Jan 08th, 2015 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0What the government did was wrong but the silver lining is that Conservation is better off now he is gone. They work with the government instead of just throwing stones and as a result get better funding and a much higher profile. Conservation was almost a swear word when Bingham was there because of his antagonism but now many more people have got involved.
1@ Have that link any connection with the issue of this post...???
Jan 08th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a Maguellan born people I can reafirm that the sheep industry in Magallanes and Aysen in Chile was started with sheeps brought from Falklands Islands and from those times the links betwen both countries have kept alive....
and it will be....
gordo1
Jan 08th, 2015 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/stranded-cargo-ship-hoegh-osaka-freed-herself-and-started-moving-1-6507918
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Jan 08th, 2015 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Falklands contribution”
So much worse than 30,00 people getting tortured and rubbed out in Argentina during the dirty war eh Mark?
Going to wheel out the pension contributions the FIG robbed off me ?
Me-not bothered because all the fantastic times I had in the Islands far outweigh the bad, and because I returned to UK, I am many times better off than if I had stayed in the Islands.
The way I was pissed off doesn't make the whole Islands bad, only the incompetent government at the time and is insignificant when compared with Argentina.
One bad apple doesn't wreck the cider and navel gazing gives way to the bigger picture.
Falklands contribution to the development of sheep farming in Magallanes
Jan 08th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps life would be different if the Falkland's went in for argy farming,
at least they would not act like sheep, rather than look like em..
@4 brucey-babe
Jan 08th, 2015 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks - I was wondering what happened.
the “contribution” of the falkland islets can be summarized in the massive killing of 5 million penguins and in the contamination of the atlantic ocean, not only with that joke of oil well, but also with their sewage.
Jan 09th, 2015 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 08 paulcedron
Jan 09th, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sewage? Seriously? 3000 people, over 1600km coastline. How much impact do you think that is going to have?
There isn't an oil well, and no-ones killed penguins for 100 years.
Engage your brain before writing- you're just making yourself look like an idiot.
And get a dictionary and look up what the word 'islet' means. You might think misusing it is an insult, but it actually just gives us a laugh. The islands don't become any smaller because you use the wrong word.
what is next?? that the merino sheep is English??!! LOL LOL LOL
Jan 09th, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fort those who do not know. The Merino sheep originated in.....SPAIN.......
and was introduced by the Spaniards all through out the American Continent long long long before 18oo.............ummmmmm
10 aussiesunshinee
Jan 09th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nontheless, the ancestors of sheep in Patagonia were imported from the Falklands. I have seen the primary documentary evidence that proves it.
..and pigs can fly......!! LOL
Jan 09th, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 aussiesunshinee
Jan 09th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're an idiot. Are you sure you're not a sock puppet for Paul? You have the same way of responding to any post: 'this is something I know nothing about, therefore it must be either wrong or ridiculous or both'. Well no; all it shows is that you don't know anything.
I've seen export documentation for boatloads of sheep going from West Falkland straight to the coast. You may choose not to believe it, but that doesn't alter the fundamental truth of it.
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Jan 09th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0boludo:
the first sheep in malvinas were imported from buenos aires and montevideo, you ignorant benny.
and sheep were introduced in the patagonia by the spaniards in the 16ème siècle.
as far as i know the name “merino” does not sound very british, no, you benny hillbilly?
http://www.mundotnc.org/donde-trabajamos/americas/argentina/descubre/patagonia.xml
14 paulcedron
Jan 09th, 2015 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really haven't got a clue, have you. Animal genetics have been transported all over the world in all different directions. I couldn't care less whether the Spanish squatters in the Falklands had sheep.
Nobody's debating the fact that Spaniards had sheep. The article says that flocks in Patagonia are descended from Falklands stock, which is a verifiable fact. I'm guessing you know a little bit about genetics ie the more generations back you go the more ancestors there are?
Anyway, Patagonia has only been used for sheep farming for around 100 years; the main type of sheep is the Corriedale, which mainly came from the Falklands.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/008/y8344e/y8344e09.htm
http://www.fao.org/docrep/008/y8344e/y8344e09.htm
The current Falkland flocks are a mixture of Corriedales, Polwarths (another merino cross from Australia) and various other newer introductions such as the Texel. There are plenty of farmers in Patagonia today who wish there still was the same level of exchange of ideas (and livestock); it would benefit everybody. You haven't got the first idea what you're talking about.
And you don't know anything about me either. I'm happy to be identified as a benny; I'm neither ignorant nor a hillbilly. Your insults don't affect me, because I'm smarter and better educated than you are, and that's good enough for me.
Why all the insults over Animals,
Jan 09th, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0have you argies not heard of cross breeding,
Hello==Spanish==Sheep==Argies ??
Satisfied now,
still,
the odd leg of lamb goes down well....lol
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Jan 09th, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0again, you imbecile, the first sheep you have there were imported from BUENOS AIRES, understand you benny?
it seems you lot are not only ignorant but also retard
17 paulcedron
Jan 09th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove it pal, or it didn't happen. FYI the Spanish brought cattle, not sheep. The first crown grants were to British ranchers who wanted to kill them and bring in sheep. I know because I've seen one.
As for 'understand you benny?' I told you; that isn't an insult any more. Many Islanders self- identify as bennies. 'Good enough for Bennies' is what we say in our house when we've laboured over a practical task and are trying to work out when it's good enough to stop.
Do you know what you sound like? That big thick ignorant thug that all the other kids avoid in the playground. All mouth and no trousers. Your insults have no effect on me at all; I'm not a retard, or ignorant, and your saying it doesn't make it true.
You don't know a single thing about the history of the islands. I know why this is; you've grown up with lies and propaganda and you don't know any better. Best thing you can do is stop showing yourself up and look and learn.
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Jan 09th, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0boludo
read and learn
“En el siglo XVI, los españoles introdujeron ovejas en la Patagonia, pues por sus suelos ricos en nutrientes y pastizales extensos, era un lugar propicio para el pastoreo ovino y de ganado.
Durante mucho tiempo la ganadería ocupó un puesto predominante en la Patagonia. No fue hasta principios del siglo XIX, con la introducción de la oveja merino, que Argentina centró su atención en la producción de lana. Esta variedad, la más abundante en el mundo – tan sólo en Argentina se cuentan más de 6 millones de cabezas- es conocida por la calidad de su lana; por eso España no permitió la salida de este tipo de ovino de su territorio por mucho tiempo, para mantener el monopolio del mercado.”
sorry, i forgot you were another ignorant monoglot, you benny hillbilly
19 paulcedron
Jan 09th, 2015 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't know anything about me.
You haven't said where you got this from. You've quoted some secondary source, and you haven't said what it is. And it doesn't even mention the Falklands. How do you get from that to 'the Spanish introduced sheep to the Falklands'?? No evidence, no proper citation; poor effort.
I've told you what my sources are; there is absolutely no doubt that sheep were imported to Patagonia from the Falklands. There were some sheep in some parts of Patagonia already. However, the Corriedale bloodline came at least partly from the Falklands. I'd guess it was imported by those British ranchers in the far south because the pure merinos were not hardy enough.
I'm done arguing with you. If I was teaching you, I'd send back your work without a grade and tell you to get your act together.
I think he is just trying to rill you up,
Jan 10th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't worry abt him.
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Jan 10th, 2015 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not very bright, are you?
google the quote, you genius, and you will get the source... d'oh
http://www.mundotnc.org/donde-
trabajamos/americas/argentina/descubre/patagonia.xml
22 paulcedron
Jan 10th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try following your own link, Einstein. Doh
Well, I suppose it could be Wikipedia. It could be worse.
I'm thinking of just writing 'google the quote' in my thesis; it's going to save me a lot of time. Thanks for the tip.
I heard the sheep were glad to get the f$$k out of the Falklands, away from being a sex toy for the squatters :)
Jan 10th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One never complain of the warmth or company in winter time..lol
Jan 10th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 023
Jan 11th, 2015 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0it seems you don't even know how to copy and paste, eh?
what happened?
they did not teach that in the community school?
clearly your main problem is not ignorance but idiocy.
must be a genetic thing
26 paulcedron
Jan 11th, 2015 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, there was me thinking a link was, well, a link.
I have to say it doesn't add much. It noticeably fails to mention the Falklands, at all. It also, rather hilariously, credits an Argentine institution with inventing holistic grazing management. Even more stupidly, it manages to say that South American ecosystems were intact until Europeans got there. No, no, no. There was a whole paleolithic megafauna that became extinct long before that.
Your problem is that you don't know anything, and you haven't been taught to read critically. You have no objectivity.
You can cut and paste though, but I think that's probably as far as your education went.
@19 paulcedron aka el mamarracho No.1 or idiot child.
Jan 13th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say “por eso España no permitió la salida de este tipo de ovino de su territorio por mucho tiempo, para mantener el monopolio del mercado.”” So how come you can also claim that sheep in the Falklands were imported from Buenos Aires? When? Before your Declaration of Indpendence in 1816 or when Spain recognised your independence in 1857? Furthermore, ”Under the British, the Falklands languished until the mid-19th century, when sheep began to replace cattle, and wool became an important export. Founded by Samuel Lafone, an Englishman from Montevideo, the Falkland Islands Company (FIC) became the islands’ largest landholder.” (Lonely Planet)
So it seems that an ENGLISHMAN from MONTEVIDEO may have been the instigator of the presence of sheep in the British Falkland Islands - NADA DE BUENOS AIRES NI DE ESPAÑA, cara de c--o!
gordo tirapedos
Jan 13th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not very bright, are you?
and your knowledge of spanish is in line with your tiny little brain.
read again, you fart blower:
what the article says is that spain introduced sheep in the 16ème siècle.
of course you have never been in the patagonia or the pampa in your whole sad life, otherwise you should know that if you put there a small group of sheep, horses, cows, whatever, in a pair of years the increase is exponential.
29 paulcedron
Jan 15th, 2015 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Fart blower'?? What, are you really 10 years old? I've had my suspicions all along.
What is the point you're making here. Are you saying that no sheep were ever imported to Argentina from the Falklands?
Do you really think all the sheep in Argentina descended from a few runty 16th century sheep? Really?
Why do you keep doing this to yourself? I mean posting ignorant nonsense and then calling people names. And telling them they're not very bright. That's your standard response when anyone posts anything you don't know; which is all the time, because you don't know much. It's feeble.
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