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A third passage to Nisman's apartment and a locksmith who testified the service entrance was not locked
Investigators found a footprint and a fingerprint in a third –recently discovered- access to prosecutor Alberto Nisman’s apartment, which became the latest clues in the investigation of the death of the AMIA special prosecutor late on Sunday. Read full article
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Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bergi is rabidly mad to proof, by conjecture, that there was GSR on the victim: he now claims that an Insurance Doctor was on the scene before anybody else and he 'could have accidently' removed the GSR trace when he touched the body.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The type of test they are using has been revealed in BsAs Herald: it's the 'electronic sweep' method which cannot be as accurate as the classical wet method though this does require diligent, careful, work when sampling and transmitting the sample to the lab.
Does anybody think the K's would allow diligent, careful, GSR analysts anywhere near the place?
The Prosecutor has allowed the gun to be fired by someone else to see if they have GSR on them afterwards. He'll make sure he has a nice pair of lab gloves on so as NOT to have GSR and his hand.
It's like Fred Carnot's Circus everywhere you look if the press are to be believed.
CFK is busy tweeting her defence.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0If they has any clue how to handle this situation they would not be discrediting a dead man out of respect to the people that loved him and before the investigation into his death is concluded. She has no class.
What destines all of rotting roadkill to oblivion is their toleration of criminal behavior.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0No security camera tapes to review?
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0the government goes from the theory of suicide because he was repentant of his denunciation to the theory that he was killed to involve the government.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0there was not one word of condolence to his family in the hundreds of messages from kirchner and her minions.
so, on one hand you have a conspiracy theory, and a suicide theory.
now who the fuck could kill a guy who had 10 bodyguards and lived in a building full of cameras and wardens:
the result is:
1- the govt
2- the servicios
lagomarsino, stiuso and milani should be investigated the sooner the better.
now, why you bunch of ignoramuses, insist in commenting about things you dont understand?
dont you have to pick up the poop of sheep today?
Please folk take care of this locksmith or else we will be having to hashtag #jesuiswalterelcerrajero
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
“Unfourtunetely” the GSR test resulted negative. Viviana Fein Dixit
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Vivana-Fein_0_1288671332.html
@6 I have told you before that nothing you will say can silence us. We will comment as and when we choose to and you are impotent to do anything about it. Accepting that fact might help you calm down.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh but this is much better than picking up sheep poop. I prefer commenting about how La Casa Rosada is having a major poop cleanup problem right now.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a wonderful explanation.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The locksmith explained that this second door was locked but without turning the key, which “was still in the lock.” He said that he pushed the key until it fell off the lock and then used another key, from Nisman’s mother, to finally open the door.
“I turned her key and opened it. I picked up my tools and ten minutes later I left.”
What sort of key? If Nisman's mother had a key, couldn't she have pushed the key through and unlocked the door?
It was reported today that the neighbour is Iranian....
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#10
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Old locks yes, but it's a modern building. It would take someone with some skill.
#11
Source?
If true, this case is going nuclear...
The perronist dogs now have repudiated their own rush to judgement.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#13
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, lead by the alpha female* of the “Peronist dogs”...
Yesterday 70% of the Argentines believed Nisman was murdered. Tomorrow, over 99% will believe so. She just needs to frame the Iranian government or someone else like the Clarin newspaper editor as guilty of the death.
(*Rhymes with witch)
@6 and @7 are becoming excited at the mention of a back passage - figures!
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 paulcedron
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened to Alberto Nisman is shocking, nasty and really sad. It's also 'trending' now. So a lot of people are going to have opinions on it, for all kinds of reasons, none of which you can control. So why waste the energy? Why don't you tell your avid audience something they don't know?
p.s.Try smiling once in a while.
p.p.s. Do Argentine mothers tell the same stories about what happens when you frown too much?
p.p.p.s. ( is that allowed?) If you still have an Ian Curtis poster now might be a good time to take it down...
Captain
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...wicked sense of humor today...
Then again, we've all been told to go back to picking up sheep poop...
So Fernández de Kirshner has seen which way the wind is blowing in public opinión and has bent to it saying it wasnt suicide.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is like a piromaniac who joins the fire brigade for a grandstand view of the fires she has set.
Hands on government Chrissy? More like r-son government methinks
The witch is trying to seem concerned. She is now saying that it was no suicide. My guess is now she'll order a “full investigation”.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150122/lt--argentina-prosecutor_killed-af1cdb5d41.html
Chicureo, had I mentioned Lamas as well that may well have tipped them totally over the edge… http://www.comicvine.com/forums/off-topic-5/the-lama-beauty-contest-1457332/
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12. Go on then, chickpee, explain 'modern' locks to us. Try to remember that Europe and the US are, technologically, about 100 years ahead of you.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 And then Chinese - cue racist rants about the Chinese - and then Japanese working for the government.
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am pretty sure CFK has not a clue what happened but is scared. Her FB rambles have changed from definite suicide to definite murder in 24 hours.
11 ignorant
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It was reported today that the neighbour is Iranian....”
iranian?
a yellow iranian with slanting eyes and jet black hair who speaks in chinese?
it seems he disappeared.
and it seems he was not iranian, boludo.
http://www.clarin.com/ultimo_momento/vecino-chino-nisman-fiscal-AMIA-departamento_0_1289871206.html
#21
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Conqueror, you may be 100 years ahead of us. (Certainly 25 years ahead of Chile, as we buy your used warships for our navy, but your bath showers are truly from the Victorian age. I was sent there for training and truly disappointed. Then again, even the French had better showers, but they seemed to be rarely used.
Chileans seem to have caught up with the UK regarding locks because we have more theft than your country, but far less than Argentina. For that reason, they typically have the latest lock technology.
That chinaman. No record of his leaving the country?. So he has disappeared (or been disappeared))
Jan 22nd, 2015 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 024
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Chileans seem to have caught up with the UK regarding locks because we have more theft than your country, but far less than Argentina. ”
yes.
now that´s because the main export of chile are thieves.
and for some reason, they choose argentina to do their “work”.
well, it seems many of them were exported to europe too.
beautiful picture of pungas shilenos in b.a.
http://www.diariopopular.com.ar/notas/166154-unos-300-pungas-chilenos-operan-los-subtes-portenos
and working in london
http://www.diariopopular.com.ar/notas/166154-unos-300-pungas-chilenos-operan-los-subtes-portenos
Bottom line: foreigners are not allowed to comment in internal argentine matters.
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is patently false. There is SO much more theft in Argentina one cannot compare it to the U.S. Of course, in both countries the cities are the worst but even down here in Patagonia thieves are everywhere.
27 Cruise ConTroll
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really????????????
Here is my comment on 'internal argentine matters.'
CFK is a corrupt, power-mad despot. Argentina is fast becoming a 'pariah' state through failure to meet debt-repayment requirements and refusal to meet WTO legislation.
Domestic violence in Argentina is a serious problem. In Buenos Aires Province, the special Women's Police Stations and Family's police stations received a daily average of 53 complaints of violence.
Deforestation and pollution are the main threats to Argentina's biodiversity and landscapes.
A census in 1914 revealed that Argentina had approximately 105 million ha of forest. Today, studies estimate a remaining 28 to 45 million ha. According to the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), some 16,288,000 ha of Argentina’s forest cover have been lost between 1980 and 2000.
Not allowed to comment??
pffft..
I don't subscibe to your glorious leader's doctrines.
~ilsen. Free and Fearless.
Then zip it when I comment about YOUR countries. I have the exact same right.
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you whinge then when I do?
@30
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have never complained when you comment on other countries. However I do, and will continue to do so, when your idiotic 'what-aboutery' is irrelevent to the topic of the article to be discussed.
May I remind you of the 'mission statement' of Mercopress?
http://en.mercopress.com/about-mercopress
“MercoPress is an independent news agency started in 1993 which focuses on delivering news related to the Mercosur trade and political bloc, and member countries, covering an area of influence which includes South America, the South Atlantic and insular territories.”
It is not a forum for your twisted opinions on the the world outside of this sphere, (and your obvious lack of knowledge thereof), but a FREE space to dicuss matters pertaining to the area that is pertinent to MercoSur.
I will not be silenced.
Je Suis Nisman!
I haven't been saying much because new items seem to be coming in every few hours, what would be the point. Of course, it's Argentina, so the history becomes very “interesting” indeed. ;)
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 32
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0yes, because the smoke and fog is being deliberately spread by the K-gang, they really want to confuse the issue. So many people in authority giving 'definitive' statements so soon....
The whole thing stinks like a bad fish.
Even if we never know the truth, this just serves to add to the poor reputation of Argentina.
#32
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree. The way a violent death is paraded and editorialized in the Argentine media, the way everybody including journalists will give definite answers about what happened, the way fiscals and judges talk to the media seems indeed incredibly messy when compared with how things are done, for example, in Canada.
However, as things unravel, I would like to point out that the elements present in Nisman's death are many, and not all point to an act of violence by the government.
On the other hand, the record of Nestor and Cristina in government is exceptionally free of violence. People have marched on the streets and abundantly insulted the president without a single tear gas can being thrown. Caceroleros went to march with their kids. We only need to go back a few years, 2001, when the police was still shooting to kill in the streets.
On the other hand, the 350-page accusation presented by Nisman is pretty lose; the government would have been foolish to kill for that. On the contrary, the government's interest would have been to let Nisman speak and answer questions during his ill-fated Monday encounter with legislators. Somebody was not interested though.
34 Enrique Massot
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“insulted the president without a single tear gas can being thrown”
jajajaajaji! Is that where you set your standards? Is that what you expect?
“Caceroleros went to march with their kids”
Doesn't the FACT that you have 'caceroleros' back home, worry you in your safe and cosy British Coommonwealth country of Canada?
Do you have them in Canada?
Why not? No need?
Do you not see the hypocrisy and hubris in what you say?
By the way, Argentine police are not shy with the tear gas...
”BUENOS AIRES, Argentina -- Riot police fired tear gas and rubber bullets late Sunday to restrain a group of vandals who disturbed a peaceful rally celebrating Argentina's gutsy performance in a 1-0 defeat to Germany in the World Cup final.
Parents with small children could be seen fleeing in fear after police, who initially remained on the sidelines as jubilant fans poured into downtown Buenos Aires, began chasing down the vandals on motorcycles.
http://www.espnfc.com/argentina/story/1949200/riot-police-fire-tear-gas-at-fans-in-argentina
and
http://www.espnfc.com/argentina/story/1949200/riot-police-fire-tear-gas-at-fans-in-argentina
looks like Argentina is quite familiar with tear gas, political or not....
35 ilsen
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Doesn't the FACT that you have 'caceroleros' back home, worry you in your safe and cosy British Coommonwealth country of Canada?
Do you have them in Canada?”
I don't think we do have them here.
hmmm, let me think... Caceroleros... Nope! Never heard of them.
What's a “Cacerolero”???
Spanish for casserole ???
Tobi....it's NOT your country. Zip it yourself and stop being the laughing stock on MP. No one is laughing with you, we are laughing at you.
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile is infamous for the vermin that was exiled during the military regime and was welcomed by Europe. Obviously, there were many good people as well that were exiled, but many were nothing but theives.
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In any case, ask anyone on this forum, who has travelled to both Santiago and to Buenos Aires their opinion of which has more theives...
38
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah, right...
as far as i know, these pungas shilenos are in their 20s / 30s, during the military regime they were spermaotozoids.
yeah, right...
as far as i know, these pungas shilenos are in their 20s / 30s, during the military regime they were spermatozoons.
“A fines de 2012 se produjo un éxodo masivo de estos delincuentes desde Santiago de Chile hacia Buenos Aires”, se denuncia en un amplio informe titulado Pasaje al Delito, que realizaron periodistas de Chilevisión.“
”Según la Policía de la capital inglesa, los pickpocket -nombre que recibe en inglés el carterista- chilenos son los más difíciles de detener, por su creatividad y sofisticación. El tema ha sido catalogado como “The Chilean problem” (el problema chileno) y hasta el cónsul nacional en el país británico, Patricio Díaz, tiene conciencia del conflicto.”
Oh well, I've already said that our theives are infamous in Europe, but Argentina is far more crooked.
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is not the worst country in Latin America, nor the most corrupt, nor are the people the worst. What is so troubling is that Argentina has it all, a homogeneous fairly well population that speaks the same language, incredible natural reasources, with the ability to feed a large apart of the world, oil, fish, minerals, beauty, great wine, good football players, the “Paris of South America”,
good looking women, etc...
Yet, your politicians continue to destroy it all.
Chile, Peru, Colombia, Panama and the Falklands Islands continue to improve their prosperity with far fewer riches...
...and you bristle every time we remind you of your failings...
Cry me a river and then come to Santiago and find out yourself.
30 Pablo CabanaBoy
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo,
This is an English language site - are you trying to avoid comments on your silly statements.
Funny that when there is crime in Argentina- they always blame foreigners!
Here's a translation:
“In late 2012 there was a mass exodus of these criminals from Santiago to Buenos Aires ”, it is reported in a comprehensive report titled Passage to Crime, who performed Chilevisión journalists.“
”According to the police of the English capital, the -name pickpocket who receives the Chilean carterista- English are the hardest to stop, for their creativity and sophistication. The topic has been billed as “The Chilean problem” (the Chilean problem) and to the national British consul in the country, Patricio Diaz, is aware of the conflict. ”
Please give us links Paul - what is your source for this?
Afraid to tell us??
@27 CrusinOutOfControl
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Bottom line: foreigners are not allowed to comment in internal argentine matters”
Do you realize how much you are starting to sound like the stupid Brasshole that expresses his ridiculous, nonsensical views on here ? Seems that stupidity is contagious...
42
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Seems that stupidity is contagious...”
Seems that they are the same person.
More REVELATIONS TO COME?
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The whole jingbang political class from Menem, Penguin cross eyes, and his harridan successor and their supporters are corrupt and should be thrown out bag and baggage
OK 54% of the deluded voters voted Christina but 46% did not.
Where are you silent dissidents?
With no apologies to atheist posters and a change of gender:
“And when I looked, behold a pale horse and her name that sat on him was Death ; and Hell followed with her”
Revelations, chapter 6 v 8
27 Cruise ConTroll (#)
Jan 23rd, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jan 23rd, 2015 - 01:59 am
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Bottom line: foreigners are not allowed to comment in internal argentine matters.
Hey dickhead......stop us......or just die and fade away.
“Hair-trigger”, Pablo CabanaBoy,
Jan 24th, 2015 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no answer from you about your remarks @39 ???
As usual, you say s lot of tripe and then run off when questioned.
You behave just like one ov CFK's Trolls.
46
Jan 24th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pelotudo
you are not too bright, are you?
read the post @26, you ignorant benny-hillbilly.
or copy the quote and google it.
que pelotudo por dios...lol
no doubts the only place where you can “work” is in the falkland islets government.
I dunno why you people bother to engage with pollywiggle paulie with his tadpole mind or the Maggot from Mendoza. Their interlect is sub human, so why bother feeding these trolls. They thive on it. If you dont reply they will die of internet hunger.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Damn Pablo....tobi...whomever you wish to be. Come to the states and allow me to manage you. You can hit all the comedy shops. You'll be an overnight sensation. Why limits yourself to the MP stage?
Jan 25th, 2015 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troy I think asslips kirchner stepped into something much larger than she can comprehend. After her murder of Nisman, this flew through the international community like white on rice. If you look at the dynamics the is going on in Israel between the president and Mossad (even Mossad is fractured), the international talks with Iran, the fractures in the US congress over Ira, sanctions and the talks on top the Netanyahu's visit to the US congress.....shit is flying beyond her control. I do not doubt her paranoia and rightfully so, has her being seldom seen publicly.
Pablo “Splooger” Cedrone
Jan 25th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are by far, the laziest Troll !!
In turn, not worth bothering with seriously.
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