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US government and Congress call for a “complete and impartial” investigation into the death of Nisman
The US government has called for a “complete and impartial” investigation on the death of AMIA special prosecutor Alberto Nisman, who had accused President Cristina Fernandez of covering up the 1994 bombing of the Jewish community centre. Read full article
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Jan 24th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't they realise that this murder is against the goverrnment?
It is interesting that the USA has made a comment.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There has been bad blood between the two governments since the Argentines detained an American Air Force cargo jet and Clinton actually question the sanity of CFK. Obama has visited Brazil and Chile, but avoided Argentina.
@2
Jan 24th, 2015 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ask how many in Argentina remember, or care.
lol.
As for the US gov and congress... You can 'demand' all day and night. Last time I checked, your actual power in Argentina is.... 0.
@3 I thought they 'called for' a thorough investigation rather than 'demanded'. It is important that CFK knows the world is watching how Argentina handles this investigation. You might not care but she most definitely does, hence her posting a letter in English for the international community.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Ask how many in Argentina remember, or care.” This is an interesting comment and more important than you seem to realise. The short attention span of the general public in Argentina is a very real concern in bringing the murderer(s) to justice. If you listened to Argentines that do care about their country, this is something they are talking about right now.
#3
Jan 24th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm Chilean dimwit.
We are militarily, politically and economicly allied with the USA, unlike yourselves, who prefer Venezulea and Iran.
Oh yes, we pay our debts and have a budget surplus.
@5
Jan 24th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly your Chilean. You are as relevant in this topic as an Anglo at at Peace summit. Get lost, especially since I didn't even mention your irrelevant in this topic country.
A friend told me once that the best investment is to buy an Argentinean for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth!
Jan 24th, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems a better investment than buying an NorthAmoan. Seen cattle prices recently?
Jan 24th, 2015 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Jen:
Jan 24th, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really think that we are all that stupid? Obamer is lusting after his “Camp David Accord” legacy ala Jimmy Cotter. [Looks like the Palestinians are still enjoying the peanut appeaser's peace - aren't they!] Your appeaser-in-chief campaigned on his ability to negotiate with the iranians as opposed to contain them. Abject failure to date as the iran nuclear program edges forward as well as their sphere of influence.
This is why Obamer has secretly lobbied Cretina/cronies to whitewash the iranian attacks - Velayati wants to travel outside iran again. Mr. Nisman's murderer could just as easily be someone doing Obamer's bidding.
Psaki, you are the biggest joke in the diplotech (and uglier than sin to boot).
http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/01/23/obama-administration-intervened-argentine-probe-iranian-leader-jewish-center-bombing/
Not a Mitch McConnell fan but God's speed to you in this mission.
Every time Argentina makes international news it makes itself look bat sh*t crazy corrupt, inept and now murderous thugs.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which of course is a correct way to view the Ks and the majority of their supporters.
The trouble is it won't get better with s new administration. Its only going to get worse.
There's nothing to stop this train wreck we all just have to watch the horror in slow motion.
What a sad and desperate place.
@3. Well, if you don't care, we don't care. I trust that you understand what this means.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Defiance is one thing. Refusing to comply with the norms of the world's society is something else.
You won't be looking for consideration or 'respect', will you? One wonders how someone supposedly from a 'country' that likes to refer to British 'pirates' can display such lack of consideration for both justice and law.
But then, when we look at the wider picture, we can see the reality. Argieland likes to trumpet its intention to progress its illegal claim to the Falkland Islands by diplomacy and negotiation. Although it conducts an economic war in contravention of the UN Charter. So what we can see is that argieland and argies habitually lie. I wonder how many argies can distinguish between lies and truth? You certainly can't. Especially as you create many lies yourself.
I wonder how you equate your approach and attitudes to your suggested regard for your 'country'. Using Twinky-Poo's analogy, every lie you tell, every disregard you display for people, societal and international norms, justice, law and truth drives at least one more nail into argieland's coffin. And your 'allies' can see it. Congratulations. All by yourself you are destroying the credibility and worth of your 'cuntry'.
Do you wonder why the 'hold-outs' pursue argieland? It's because of you. There will be those that read boards like this and walk away thinking “That's an argie. Screw 'em!”
Isn't the law of unintended consequences a wonderful thing? Thanks for your help in the destruction of your 'country'. Just so's you know, because you'll probably be dead, there will be dancing and singing in the streets at the destruction of argieland. It will probably be broken up into little segments incapable of ever threatening anybody. It may need food aid. Or cannibalism.
My, my, Chopper's in here trying to ask us about cattle prices in a thread about a government assassination. That must mean the Argentine government has screwed up again. ;)
Jan 24th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsrpl58kjd.gif
Better get that crack ambassador to work.... He probably had no idea what he signed on for..
Jan 24th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When was the last time, CFK and her government ever cared abt law and order , human rights , justice,
Jan 24th, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we may live in a democracy in the 21st century,
but unfortunately some still live in the 18th century, with 18th century values rights and laws,
Cfk will cover her tracks well , if indeed she was involved.
“US government and Congress call for a “complete and impartial” investigation into the death of Nisman”
Jan 24th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha!!! You'd have a better chance of finding rocking horse s**t than having a “complete and impartial” investigation in argentina!!!
Who's going to do it? ( who's got a bomb proof car and is not in anyone else's pocket? )
Beware of US demands. Be very very aware.
Jan 24th, 2015 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the flick of a pen can come sanctions, embargoes, and persona non grata listings. And in the end....they come because they are always well deserving.
@3
Jan 24th, 2015 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Last time I checked, your actual power in Argentina is.... 0.”
The only aircraft in your airforce that seems to work at all is made in USA, as the chances of Argentina making a successful military aircraft that can actually do much is very very slim, since your Nazi mate Kurt Tank stopped making them in the 1950s.
WooW! US's claims, as usual, aim to puzzle the global opinion toward the stained focus. Do they realize that people in this worldside don't believe nor support its awful foreseeable and outdated fairy tales?
Jan 24th, 2015 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “US government and Congress” has not called for a “complete and impartial” investigation. What has happened is that the administration and Sen. Bob Menendez, the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, have made the call. I know that it is difficult for Mercopenguin, a propaganda operation of an undemocratic British government, to understand this but Sen Menendez is not the Congress. He is not even the Senate. He is the ranking member and nothing more.
Jan 25th, 2015 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would like to see a resolution in Congress that does make this call. It is important that Congress take a positive interest in America and, most especially, South America.
“complete and impartial” investigation into the death of Nisman is the right thing to do not because USA or any other fifth world country ask(or not) for it.
Jan 25th, 2015 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about a “complete and impartial” investigation into the death of hundreds of thousands in an illegal invasion of Iraq by USA and UK?
#19 hepatitis
Jan 25th, 2015 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0“……but Sen Menendez is not the Congress. He is not even the Senate. He is the ranking member and nothing more.”
But judicial authorities in the US are investigating his death and the US state department has called for a ‘complete and impartial investigation’. It is typical of Argentine apologists to try and split hairs and diminish the seriousness of this atrocity by attacking the reporting of it. Suffice to say that this latest argentine atrocity is judged with great concern by not only the US government but other freedom loving democratic governments around the world. These includes proper democracies like Australia, the UK and Canada.
Miss Piggy and the rest of her Muppets that are up to their armpits in this crime have demonstrated, yet again, the sort of ruthless corrupt regime they run. In the eyes of the world and decent Argentines this is the last straw; they stand condemned by their own evil words and deeds. The few apologists who have come out from under their rocks and tried to justify or distract attention from the repugnant actions of the Argentine government stand condemned with it.
20 Marcos Alejandro
Jan 25th, 2015 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about a “complete and impartial” investigation into the death of hundreds of thousands in an illegal invasion of Iraq by USA and UK?
Yawn........... That old chestnut? I knew it would only be a matter of time BEFORE one of you braindead / brainwashed trolls brought up the Iraq war.
BOOOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGGG!!!!!!!
While we are at it though, here's one for you champ, we could have a “complete and impartial” investigation into the deaths of the indigenous population in your country each year...........
or a “complete and impartial” investigation into how TMBOA got very rich, very suddenly
or a “complete and impartial” investigation into police corruption in your country
Or a“complete and impartial” investigation into corrupt politicians in your country
oh the list goes on ( and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on )
Well, seems you brought up the subject of “complete and impartial” investigations, answer me this........ Is it possible to have a “complete and impartial” investigation in argentina?
IS IT???
@19. Let me get this straight. The 'administration' of the U.S. can be ignored. That is, after all, who the state department speaks for. Shall we continue down that line and ignore the 'administration' of argieland?
Jan 25th, 2015 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You want to see a resolution in the U.S. Congress? Why? Argieland's 'administration' pays very little attention to its Congress. Why does the argie president issue so many 'decrees'?
@20. As toooldtodieyoung asks, are you ready for some complete and impartial investigations into things in your country. Nd I can add some to the list.
How about a complete and impartial investigation into the genocides inn the two 'Conquests of the Desert'?
A complete and impartial investigation into Timerman and his attacks on Uruguay.
A complete and impartial investigation into the theft of land from Paraguay, ditto the theft of electricity, ditto the movement of a nuclear power plant close to the Paraguayan border without consultation.
We can have a complete and impartial investigation into the attack on, and the invasion and occupation of the Falkland Islands, ignoring the UN. And the war crimes. And the continued illegal 'claims'. And the breaches of the UN Charter by conducting an economic war/blockade.
Oh, and the Iraqi WMDs WERE found. So the war WAS justified. The war WASN'T illegal. Hussein LIED.
You need to keep up with things instead of just slurping up argie 'government' propaganda.
Capitanich - “intelligence agents 'working for obscure interests’”
Jan 25th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/180299/capitanich-aims-at-media-outlets-intelligence-agents-working-for-obscure-interests%E2%80%99
In addition to my post about the Buenos Aires Herald journalist who broke the story of Nisman's murder, not that if you are going to flee for your life, don't use Aerolineas . They published the full details of where he flew to.
Jan 25th, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bubblear.com/aerolineas-argentinas-casa-rosada-try-to-rat-out-fleeing-journalist/
Let's not allow speculation to misdirect the obvious and forget Occam's razor. We know where the fewest assumptions point and who had the most to lose and gain. People can live with speculation as a murderer, but proof as aiding and abetting a terrorist nation as a world leader.....the would not sit well with the free world.
Jan 25th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read that about Aerolinas and cannot for the life of me imagine a real country allowing something as someones itinerary being blasted to the world media.
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Jan 25th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aiding and abetting bad guys is something Argentina is good at. There is mounting evidence being made public that Hitler didn't kill himself in that mountain bunker but instead travelled by sub to Argentina where he lived until an old man.
@26
Jan 25th, 2015 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I read that about Aerolinas and cannot for the life of me imagine a real country allowing something as someones itinerary being blasted to the world media.”
In the old days, that used to be called an APB. You know, “Calling all cars, calling all cars, be on the lookout for...” ;)
#28 exactly.......one way to have him found, split and quartered. Now why would they divulge this info if for no other reason to ID his location and for what reason? Again.........refer to Occam's razor.
Jan 25th, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26. Occam's Razor. Indeed. The simplest explantion. CFK was about to be exposed as an Iranian tool and conspiracist with no interest in murdered citizens of 'her' own country. Who else had the authority to have him killed? Especially as she continues to make up 'stories'. And Capitanich is a lying accessory. Prison for both. Tomorrow. Before they can murder anyone else!
Jan 25th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Top Gear is on now and Clarkson, Hammond and May have ALL got Chilean flag lapel pins!
Jan 25th, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha… .
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Jan 25th, 2015 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! You beat me to it.
Jen Psaki
Jan 25th, 2015 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she looks almost dominating , yes miss , no miss , more more ,
oh you naughty boy,
with that enticing look in her domineering eyes,
just trying to lighten the mood on here chaps.
I will make a shocking prediction, NOTHING will come of this... The man is dead, and the brashness in which they murdered him really says it all. I even doubt they will go to the effort of a cover up. From the country that brought you Che Guevara comes nothing but a wimper from the population.... The Enriques of Argentina have won, or lost...
Jan 25th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does Christian Rubilar work for Cretina?
Jan 25th, 2015 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are uninfored if you think the populace whimpered. What did we do about Foster?
Jan 26th, 2015 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 036. I don't know anyone that thinks that Vincey committed suicide.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0What has happened? Maybe I am not following the story close enough but I haven't heard much more than a couple of protests after the death. It is so brazen the death, and to listen to comments about people eating the governments spoon fed story is depressing.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0And to answer your question I did nothing about Foster... barely even followed it as I was very busy at that time. I suppose apathy is the norm when you are busy getting thru life..
Culturally for them that is significant, or as much as they can do. There trolls on this MP site are not representative of a lot of Argentine's. Haven't you noticed that during your trips there?
Jan 26th, 2015 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Realistically there is very little that can be done. Though they have guns, but mot 1/3 of the population like Americans. A revolt is unrealistic. The country is run via corruption that trickles down. The military coup is a poor option for a quasi almost “democracy” even if they had a military, which they do not. I chuckled when my father in law asked in jest.......“you Americans invade and rebuild everyone, can't you invade us?” Thinking back on that statement, that is probably the only hope for Argentina is for someone to invade them and hand the country back to the people. Maybe Chile can. Doubtful though. Half of the people are suffering the Stockholm syndrome and the rest are beat down to a level of apathy.
There are a lot of good people in Argentina.......but not many on this site. Simone68 was one who has not posted in sometime.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/01/24/us-government-and-congress-call-for-a-complete-and-impartial-investigation-into-the-death-of-nisman#comment377286: A complete investigation is the right thing to do. I'm sure that, if nothing else, there is plenty of pressure within Argentina for an investigation. But a resolution of Congress is appropriate - because it is the right thing to do.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, what about Iraq? Its a fair question. As you did not quite get around to implying there is more than one congress in America. So I would think that a resolution from the Congress of Argentina urging the US to fully investigate the crimes detailed in the recent US Senate report on torture - to identify a more concrete subject than the one you have - would be quite proper.
@40 Hepatia
Jan 26th, 2015 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing - this article is about Argentina.
Yes it is a fair question, it the article that talks of such. In the meantime stay on topic of the article. However Argentina asking the US to investigate torture is tantamount to the Sicilian mafia to ask the USAG to investigate crime in the USA.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 039 On a recent vacation we met many Argentines and had dinner with a nice couple that have baby twins. They told us they had to move out of the city due to crime and it not being safe to raise children. It made me think of how hopeless a place it is for regular people.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My post is a statement of the obvious, that all the noise about the investigation is just that noise. Argentina is to corrupt from the top down and nothing impartial could possibly take place right now.
Our place is in Recoletta so it really depends on where you go in the city as to the relative feeling of safety......or part of the country for that matter. I've never really felt too unsafe, or more than NYC, LA or Chicago.....but then I've had people shoot at me with intent. Hell....think about Holyoke...Dorchester and Roxbury.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey.......drive safe or don't if you don;t have to.
I don't know one person who lives in Argentina who's not been assaulted and or robbed.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not one
It's commonplace and expected.
You only have to look at the 12 foot walls, barred windows and private guards to know you better be careful.
I know many people how have not. In fact almost all the people I know have not. I do know of a few. But that's not saying I support all things Argentine.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dsullivan what do you think of the casino?
@40. Investigate your own crimes first, Patsy. You have, at the very least, tens of thousands. Possibly millions.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45. From what you say, a little bit of 'remodelling' seems appropriate. Tanks and mobile artillery. Wipe the place clean. Except for rubble. Don't you wish you'd supported the British Falkland Islands? But, as usual, we had to do it ALONE. Just like WW2.
46 not much, I don't think it is going to be the big windfall, or black cloud people are saying...
Jan 26th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 047 Didn't think you needed any help I am sure....
I think it will be good for Spfld.....a great day to work from home....lol
Jan 27th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 046. Have you specifically asked them? If not I think you'd be surprised on the answers. Its not something they'll willing talk about.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes. Almost everyday they speak of increasing crime. But as I said I personally only know a few affected by it. I was not saying or implying crime is not on the rise there because it is. However if you count the government theft ....pension theft etc........everyone I know is a victim.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had my briefcase pinched from the hotel lobby within an hour or so of arriving in BA
Jan 28th, 2015 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0not going Back
That sucks.........My cousin in the NYPD (hometown) was shot last year. Your point to me is what? That is am wrong in my statement? What hotel?
Jan 28th, 2015 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cap'n Poppy
Jan 29th, 2015 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0it was the hotel Babel but it wasn't their fault, a couple entered the hotel behind us and one of them distracted the concierge who was attending to us and the other one just picked up my briefcase and walked out
next day I listened to a guitar player busking. I bought 2 cds from him and they were blank !!
so regret I do not have fond memories of BA
San Telmo........The Atlantic City(a safe place right?) of Argentina. I didn't think anyone goes there after dark. I go once or twice a year.....maybe next time is my time.
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