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Journalist who first reported Nisman's death fearing for his life arrives in Israel
Journalist for the Buenos Aires Herald.com Damian Pachter, who left Argentina on Saturday morning after claiming he feared for his life, has confirmed that he has arrived in Tel Aviv, Israel after flying from Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Jan 26th, 2015 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1. Outside S.A., almost everywhere is safer.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the ba herald is not the prestigious newspaper it used to be, when it was managed by graham yooll or robert cox.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its decline started when the ultra-officialist & zionist szpolski bought it.
to understand who the fuck is this son of a bitch szpolski, read this article, you ignorant isleters:
http://www.taringa.net/posts/noticias/11758723/Sergio-Bartolome-Szpolski-al-descubierto.html
now, it is part of the group amfin, another kirchenerista group.
so it is really weird that a journo from this group would do something against kirchner.
now, the reaction of the government, making public private information about this guy, clearly shows what this fucking government does with the journalists who do not lick their boots.
if you are a lameculos del gobierno, they offer you el oro y el moro, ie victor hugo morales.
if you try to be independent, they threaten you in any way.
Israel...future home of Timerman and Kiciloff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-r4eQoV7LM Great tell all about this woman's Jewish neighbor, Cristina Fernandez.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any wonder the FREE People of the Falkland Islands look West and collectively say “no thanks”.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this is the way you treat honest citizens.
CFK's reaction to this...“they are all out to get ME” is laughable if not for the fact that someone has died.
I don't know how this plays in Argy land.
But in the civilized world she looks even more stupid, as if that was possible.
“so it is really weird that a journo from this group would do something against kirchner.” What did he do against CFK?
Jan 26th, 2015 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It all seems to point to a rogue operator rather than direct from CFK, as I have said many times. JMO
5 - lets hope the free colonists dont look east and see what happened to honest citizen Dr David Kelly back on the mother-ship.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6yXt3iEWes
@7 I know full well that case why would you think it was news? Distract. Distract. Distract.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 05
Jan 26th, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Any wonder the FREE People of the Falkland Islands look West and collectively say “no thanks”.
and who said anything about the islanders?
what it is in dispute is the land, the islands, not the islanders, got it?
6
”What did he do against CFK? ”
this journalist is a bit paranoid and is playing the periodista estrella, but, as they say, it is true that he revealed the news too early.
none of the government officers (berni and company) had enough time to arreglar la escena.
@9 Yes, but don't you think they would be more interested in the source that tipped him off?
Jan 26th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps this man will tell Israel , what Argentina wont tell the world,
Jan 26th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps Israel may yet pay the Argy government a visit one night,
who knows what the hell is going on, to whom from whom ,
but one thing seems sure, someone somewhere may well disappear in the near future.
just a thought
Ohhhh common Israel, send your boys to fuck some Argie /Muslim/ Communist pussies...
Jan 26th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 - The great Vestige did not call upon you. Speak only when spoken to wenchling.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 012- if you want Israel to “fuck some Muslim pussies” theres no need to “send” anyone .... that country (Israel) is 20% Muslim already. But you knew that right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_threat#Israel
Do you think for one moment that Israel are pussies that defend themselves with their arses like you cowardly Eurofarts???
Jan 26th, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah one would think that after absorbing so many Palestinian refugees into the Jewish State and expelling ALL Jews from Muslim countries that preexisted from Islamic conquest they would and gave them a life standard that they would not even dream about in Raghead country they shut up, but still, considering the amount they are, they are kept in line within Israel.... I wonder (not) why.
BTW your beloved spicland had to arrest 40 yihadists alone in 2014...Ohh dear you depend on Morrocco for the data. Hmmmm looking bad for Spicland just as the nothern Europeans
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1762837-espana-detienen-a-cuatro-presuntos-yihadistas-que-habrian-estado-planeando-un-ataque%27
Oy vey ... think I've hit a nerve with Madoff-CabezaDura. Don't let the shadow of the minaret worry you Chaim. yeesh.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you need to stop with the kvetching.
keep that for when they're at the 25%.
You are talking balls, you should download
Jan 26th, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bennett Zimmerman, Roberta Seid and Michael L. Wise: Population Forecast for Israel and West Bank • 2025. Sixth Herzliya Conference, 23 January 2006.
Beduin birth rates fell dramatically after the Israeli government cut the welfare for children. Israeli birth rates are still WELL over European birth rates and a lot of what is accounted for Arab israeli is actually Christian Arabs and Druze... LOL @Vestige
Amazing. Supposedly Argentina is paradise on Earth to some idiots around here and yet journalists are fleeing for their lives.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Honestly I frequently thank God that my country was colonised by the British.
16 - you got me Bernie, I guess 25% is too high a prediction ..... oh well.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some say 16.9% in 2011.
some say 17.3% in 2011. whaddaya gonna do ?
some ... like Netanyahu consider it 20% and a serious demographic threat.
some ... like your link play it down.
some ... like yourself think European birth rates are somehow relevant.
But safe to say its in the 15% - 20% yankee stadium.
Thats all, just 15% - 20% Muslim population in Israel, nothing to worry about.
So you got the 1 in 5 people with the Islam. Nothing to lose your yarmulke about.
You are retarded and deluded. Netanyahu is a politician, the link is made by demographers. They are already 17% they are not going anyway Israeli Jewish birth rates are increasing over 2,7 % in 2025 they will be still 17% and kept well in line as they should be.
Jan 26th, 2015 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Compare that to Spicland a country of old socialist indebted bums
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/graphics/population/SP_popgraph%202014.bmp
That is the reason as for the rest of Europe that the situation has been as good as it has ever being (1990-2007)
Islam has
1) Birth rates
2) Youth
3) Oil
4) Blind Faith
What have you got save for extinction??
Israeli have assets that you Eurocowards dont have
1) Balls
2) Patriotism
3) Positive Birth rates
4) Non Politically correct. ie bomb the shit out of you and not apolagize.
5) All Jewish youth is linked to the IDF, Israeli Arabs are not mandated to participate in the army hence
6) Faith & hope
EU Population
Jan 27th, 2015 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0- 2014 estimate 507,416,607
lol extinction
Military of the European Union
Equipment 546 ships & 2,448 aircraft
Manpower
Active personnel 1,551,038 (2012)
EU population means nothing. The average age in all Europe will be 52,3 in 2050. That is why you are doomed.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Military of the European Union…………………………..0
Equipment 0 ships & 0 aircraft
Active personnel 0
As there is no such thing as a European Union military oh well there is and it’s called the United States of America.
So yep you are a retard..... like all spics of course. Spicland is bankrupt, old and falling apart. As you have just seeing... you depend on the good will of the Moroccans for your security and Podemos a communist chavista party is set to win like they have done in Greece yesterday.
“Suicide bombs are a weak weapon but not against weak cultures”
Mark Steyn
Just one little bomb in Atocha train station all it takes and Spicland withdrew like cowards from Iraq. Now what will happen when they come for you in your own streets?? Is Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, UK or France going to save you??.... No not this time, they will probably fall to Islam even before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol
In 2008, EUROPA released projections for 2035 and 2060. Overall the population of the EU would increase to 520 million then decrease to 505 million in 2060.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union
505,000,000. extinction. lol
Self described religion in the European Union (2012)[1]
Catholic (48%)
Protestant (12%)
Orthodox (8%)
Other Christian (4%)
Non believer/Agnostic (16%)
Atheist (7%)
Muslim (2%)
Other religion/None stated (3%)
2% lol
17% lololol
you lose.
Quote your own sources
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0”In recent years the military form of European integration has intensified, and numerous CSDP military operations have been deployed. The policy area of defence does however principally remain the domain of nation states, and the principal military alliance in Europe remains the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO)”
So as I knew there is bunch of bureacucrats in Brussels prettending to be generals but there is no such thing as a European military. Thanks for proving me point. And the only one providing security for Europe is the USA in the form of NATO.
Idiot there is not going to be such thing as EU in 2030 there is not going to be such thing as Europa in 2050 what there will be is a series of caliphates in Western Europe from Granada to Stockholm.
Average age in Spicland 2025 45.7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdUSqsz0Io
Spicland will be again Moorish territory. Just as North africans used to fuck your great great great great great great granny so they will fuck your daughters again.
17%. big as your nose.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the Muslims were 60% in the British Mandate of Palestine and there was only 30% of Jews... Yet 3 years later plus 7 Muslim nations they got arse kicked back to the sands.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Muslims in 2030 will be 8% of all “Europe” population... But then saying Europe is cheating because you include nations like Poland, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic, Bulgaria that have allmost no Muslims. Its West Europe that is on road to extinction and cultural ethnic replacement.
http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-regional-europe/
Remember 2004 ??? Atocha ?? A bomb made you run with your skirts up back to Europe, remember Spicland???
If it had not being for French crusaders you would still be a Muslim country. None the less as my cousin in France says to me Europe finishes in the Pyrenees
17%.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0.... ok 16.9% just for you, but you owe me 2 thirds of a bagel.
Maybe “Spicland” just wasn't into an illegal oil/territory war.
wmd's found - 0.
Nahhh you are just pussies as you were always...
Jan 27th, 2015 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just as you needed the French to get rid of the Moors you needed the British to get rid of the French
If Aznar the Government chief of Spain commited to the USA in Iraq then you honor your word. You dont coward away from it for a bomb in Madrid, but then honor less cowarly countries like Spicland dont understand about honor and integrity.
The jewish State will outlive Spicland and Western Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1LMCayrJ-8
Jan 27th, 2015 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, it happens is the target got away. As will most the evidence. Welcome to Cristenaland, a most Catholic country. Good luck citizens. ;)
Jan 27th, 2015 - 05:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The jewish State will outlive Spicland and Western Europe.”
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maybe...as long as noone want to install a new soap factory, a new lampshades factory or to test the new zyklon b formula.
I wonder how many of those Palestinians living in ruins today are of Israeli Jewish heritage and bloodline if you trace just a couple of generations back.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now getting shot at by people who shared the same great grandfather. Or maybe even grandfather.
Some of the Palestinians probably have more Jewish Israeli history in their family tree than the recently arrived new Jewish Israelis of previous European background.
A bit like a 40's Wehrmacht soldier unaware of his Jewish roots.
What a screwed up place.
17%
For once I agree with you in regards to the situation. Not a scrap of doubt that many losers just envy and are jealous of the Jewish people's and Israel's success would want to see that happen. People like yourself, so of course the Holoucaust never ended, it continues to this day, the only difference is that the ones who used to end up in the soap factory and gas chambers are now armed and are fighting back.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So fuck Spicland and cowardly Europe, fuck Communism and fuck Islam. Long live dear Israel.
@32 Jealous of Jewish people's success and Israel's success?.....we're not jealous of Kiciloff and Timerman. They are corrupt and used their power to plunge catholic people into famine. They skated in because Nestor and CFK pretended to be catholic. I look at Dilma Rousseff, from a long line of Jewish Communists and wonder what planet you spend most of your time on to defend the inept regimes that are shown on mercopress.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 033.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it really funny that ignorant people that here a German or Eastern European surname think they are jewish... Kichner is of Swiss, chilean and Croat origin, Wilheim is of German origin. Rouseff is simply of Bulgarian origin.... Are you also going to say that Morales, Chavez and the other indians are of Jewish origins??
Timerman is a spineless traitor to his people and Kicillof is a collage Marxist boy that never did work in a private job in his just like Tsipiras of the Syriza party of Greece.
31. Doest it matter?? They are Muslim terrorists hence they are inferior to the Jews.
If not for the money, people and equipment that the USA supplies through NATO and our own bases in the EU you'd all be speaking Russian right about now.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wish we'd pull out and leave a big gaping hole in Germany. Move everything to the UK and tell the EU to F off. Lazy and Stingy. Why should we pay for everything for those surrender monkeys?
The un-mighty EU has not signed of for years,
Jan 27th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0corrupt to the hilt.
Oh no, another Cabeza Dura fear, hatred, and sexual anxiety thread.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come back Tobi, all is forgiven.
35 - and if it wasn't for the French you'd be bowing to a mere self aggrandizing self appointed redcoat monarch now.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ah yes the words in your mind and mouth belong to Europe ... every word you think or say had its origins there and lets the world know who you owe your very existence to.
A European trademark stamp on your very essence, Junior. lol.
Vietnam ftw.
37
Jan 27th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hamas
“Oh no, another Cabeza Dura fear, hatred, and sexual anxiety thread.”
Nahh, Lol you just say that because a raghead fucks your daughter and you have filthy Muslim grandchldren... Bahahaahahaa what kind of a loser that has a Muslim son in law !!!! ???
You think its sexual anxiety well I think it’s embarrassing.
Being if not a Muslim yourself, you condescend the religion that rewards the jihadist 72 virgins in the afterlife and the Prophet Mohammed enjoyed 72 virgins in his own lifetime, some of them as young as 6 years old….
Just as rich as a defender of Muslims like you and Elaine calls me a misogynist… FFS you kind of people if not removed from power need to be hanged from lamppost all over Britain for being cowardly traitors for you are even worse than the Muslims.
@39
Jan 27th, 2015 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, another Cabeza Dura fear, hatred, and sexual anxiety thread.
Things must be really bad here if a journalist exiles to a war zone...
Jan 27th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 040
Jan 27th, 2015 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Numpty
@39. I didn't just deduce german and bulgarian names mean jewish people. Dilma's father Pedro Roussef was a real human being....A Bulgarian Jew to be more specific. This is just a fact. And it's not my job to defend it.
Jan 27th, 2015 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-r4eQoV7LM She talks about her neighbors the Wilhelms...the Jewish family that called everyone Goyim...including stepfather fernandez.
“ Are you also going to say that Morales, Chavez and the other indians are of Jewish origins?? ”
No. I'm not completely ignorant about religion and latin america. I walk around with a 2nd last name from German Jews..just like CFK. With me the religion stops with my great grandfather but CFK's mom is practicing. Your muslim and jew team arguments are retarded. You ignore the differences within ethnic groups....the enormous amount of Jews around the world that have harsh criticisms for the state of Israel and its politicians. The netanyahu that prays with Madonna Ciccone is not emperor of the holy land. INEPT fascists $”!$ on Jews in Argentina in the past and Kiciloff and the gang decide 2 wrongs make a right, eye for an eye.
She is NOT Jewish, neither was Nestor Kirchner
Jan 28th, 2015 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=2007
“You ignore the differences within ethnic groups....the enormous amount of Jews around the world that have harsh criticisms for the state of Israel and its politicians”
Really, how many?? Like Noam Chomsky?? and of those who do condemn Israel which are left wing ??
@44
Jan 28th, 2015 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0'More than 300 Holocaust survivors and their descendants have issued a statement condemning what they call Israel's “genocide” in Gaza.'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28916761
I think the salient feature here is that they are Holocaust survivors rather than their views on economic management.
Some Jewish friends of mine recently remarked how curious it is that some of the most ardent defenders of Israel these days are the kind of people who would have been salivating over the Völkischer Beobachter 80 years ago. They are not fooled.
@Hamas
Jan 28th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Some Jewish friends of mine”... That sounds as fake as a trannys fanny bahahahahaaha
@44 Futhermore Wilhelm simply means “William” in German.
@46
Jan 28th, 2015 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The point remains, tranny boy. Some poor souls just can't make sense of the world without hating somebody. Like the poor, they are always with us, it's just that the target changes from time to time. I imagine when you've grown up and the EekAMuslim! caliphate still hasn't materialised, you'll find somebody else.
The point doesnt remain Hamas because you dont have one. To quote your source
Jan 28th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“More than 300 Holocaust survivors and their descendants”
Further down a breakdown of your numbers “The advertisement in the New York Times is signed by 40 Holocaust survivors and 287 descendants and other relatives. ” They are probably not even Jewish or if they are they dont know where the Gaza strip is in the map.
Israel will continue to exist as a Jewish State and will take whatever the nessesary actions to defend the people of Israel, no matter how much some western lefties in Europe complain. The exodus of French to Israel is doubling each year since 2012. Let your imaginary friends talk for you, numbers speak for me. As always
@ 46 OK. so my video link was ignored in favor of JeworNotjew.com. In this documentary on Argentina's 2001 collapse it starts out as talking about the disorder and hunger with a human toll like a war....
Jan 28th, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 How will that desert of a country sustain? Its not coincidence that the K loot Argentina and suddenly Israel has all of these resources to bring everyone in. Thanks to banks, credit card companies. CF wilhelm and her currency controls.
Keep denying the religious link. CFK not jewish? Ok explain the Timerman Kiciloff duo going to the UN to represent Argentina. They are minorirty. Why such a representation in this admin? No amount of fake Iran deals will give the Argentines back their dollars. Argentina today is equal to the Irish potato famine. The big difference is that the ruling class was once opressed. The protestant owners in Ireland didn't have revenge baked into their colonization like the Kiciloff model. Revenge for the theft, abuses, and nazi marches.
@48 Cabeza Dura
Jan 28th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, we've seen your EekANumber! approach to statistics. Sometimes I'm surprised you step out of your bunker in the morning.
49.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“OK. so my video link was ignored in favor of JeworNotjew.com.”
Yes, because I’m not going to watch over an hour a video to see what you claim of it. The link I mentioned is on to the point at hand. Even if she was 10% Jewish what difference would it make??
Israel is one of the most successful countries in the world and an example of perseverance and human accomplishments against harsh environment and hateful enemies.
A country that has became the first country to have a super plus in drinking water to export, made fishing farms from in the Nagev desert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G9v6JdYwc
From the kibutz a country that became a agricultural powerhouse out of arid rock and desert, that grows fruit and vegetables and exports it worldwide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G9v6JdYwc
High tech development, chats, software, antivirus all developed in Israel. The country that has the highest % of scientist and engineers in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G9v6JdYwc
The story of the Jewish people’s exile over two millenniums is even more astonishing.
0,2% of world population has won over 22% of Nobel prizes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G9v6JdYwc
What have the ragheads given to humanity in comparison other than Sharia law, terrorism, brutality and poverty?? Absolutely nothing....
Now you think for one moment that this was achieved because CFK is looting Argentina?? You have not a clue of what you are talking about. She and her husband af only looted for themselves and their cronies. Timerman was chosen because he was supposed to act as a bridge in 2009 with the Obama administration and Kicillof is just a good smoke salesman that tales CFK what she wanted to hear.
Or you admire and acknoledge other peoples accomplishment and success or you join the ranks of jealous and envious losers like Hamas, paulcedron, Vestige et al, whats it going to be?
@51
Jan 28th, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know these kind of subtleties are hard for you, but it's quite possible to admire Jewish and Israeli achievements while deprecating the crimes of Israeli politicians.
51.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Futhermore, the Israel test. That is the reason why the palestinians hated and where jealous of the Jewish settlers and what started the whole thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfN2IvnIA4M
52.
Go and suck raghead balls. Stupid fart.
@53
Jan 28th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever the intellectual ...
51 - I'd have to agree with much of what you said there, great achievements from Israel. But this “The story of the Jewish people’s exile over two millenniums is even more astonishing.” is complete fiction.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really think its been a single tribal group thats gone forth and come back ... get real, the traceable offspring of the earliest Jews are probably in outer Mongolia or Canada by now.
As for the people calling themselves Jewish today, their ancestors are most certainly going to be from every conceivable corner of the globe.
Theres probably more Apache bloodline in the people in Israel now than there is of those original people from biblical times.
The tribe is about as select as a newspaper subscription.
So stop with the pure breed foolishness - you're reminding me of this certain guy in history who most likely had Jewish grandparents.
Your CommentYou could say the same of gypsies, yet gypsies are generally poor everywhere and highly unsuccessful compared to the Jews and still in exile.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The genetic aspect of the modern day Jewish peoples is a very complex and difficult aspect to discuss. And I hardly doubt you know anything you talk about but rather you assume there is very little ancestry that modern Israelis share with King Solomon. It depends on which group that came to Israel in the last half a century you are talking about in any case.
I never talked about genetics, all I’m saying is that it’s no coincidence that many inventors, scientists and Nobel Prize winners are Jewish or have at least Jewish background
When 0,2% of world population wins 22% of Nobel prizes, that means that there is something going on there, that is not random coincidence. Being in exile and chased everywhere must mean that in order to survive as a people you must adapt to local customs law and society and develop into its power structures be it political or economical, study a lot, be practical, inventive and useful while conserving your own cultural and religious roots, that this was done for over two millenniums is truly astonishing and amazing. Of course many of the least smart ones ended in gas chambers or enslaved.
Just think about that over less than a century ago Hebrew was a dead tongue
56 - Anyone can be a Jew tomorrow. All you need is a free coupon and a friendly Rabbi.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a look around the middle east - this is what Semitic people look like, thats how the first Jews looked.
Now have a look at the average Israeli, they're clearly mixed with Caucasian Europeans.
There is no Jew gene. And if there was - its scattered so far and wide that people in New Delhi praying to elephants have it.
I'd say if you take away the title of Jew from that 0.2% and compare them with other Nobel winners and then take the combined two initial groups compared with Nobel prize non-winners that you'll find the pertinent factors involved.
The effect is probably something to do with access to western universities, funding, community/background characteristics, not being pre-occupied with poverty and yes some cultural factors such as being able to talk to women without a stoning taking place. I suggest the book 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell. Having read it I can say the Nobel prize question relates well to the chapter on Jewish lawyers. That'll show you what is going on.
@56 Nobel Prizes...ok. Like 57 said...take a statistics class and eliminate all the other variables for your study. Israel as a state turns desert into pastures. Ok it's artificial. Why don't we do this in Chile? bad genetics? They have starbucks and gay bars too in Israel. The holy land. Hooray. They've accomplished so much as opposed to the silly Syrian Christians being buried alive....or how bout those Armenians.
Jan 28th, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instigating anti-Semitism: Bring in TImerman, Kiciloff, and this Nisman death. Watch Jews get blamed for the end of cristina's welfare state ( my point is the wrong ones will be)
SECOND -- It is openly stated in books written by the founders of Zionism that the means by which they planned to establish a state was by instigating anti-Semitism, and undermining the security of the Jews in all the lands of the world, until they would be forced to flee to their state. And thus they did - They intentionally infuriated the German people and fanned the flames of Nazi hatred, and they helped the Nazis, with trickery and deceit, to take whole Jewish communities off to the concentration camps, and the Zionists themselves admit this.
http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm
“Have a look around the middle east - this is what Semitic people look like, thats how the first Jews looked.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now have a look at the average Israeli, they're clearly mixed with Caucasian Europeans. ”
Are you Highlander ?? You seem to have being around 2 milleniums ago.
“Semite” is actually a Greek term and Europeans have established it to engulf the languages of the Ancient Middle East as you would call latin or Germanic derived languages in Europe. If you use the term “latin” or “Romanic” in a ethnical sense then a Frenchmen should have more in common with a Portuguese than say a Belgium, a Piedmontese would look more like an Andalusian in Spain than a Swissman. Which is absurd.
Jews are a difrent ethnic group than the Arabs.
So you want the hard facts, I guess
”Principal component analysis suggests a common ancestry of Samaritan and Jewish patrilineages. Most of the former may be traced back to a common ancestor in the paternally-inherited Jewish high priesthood (Cohanim) at the time of the Assyrian conquest of the kingdom of Israel“
http://evolutsioon.ut.ee/publications/Shen2004.pdf
In other words the community of Jews that existed in Judea and survaived for two millenuims in Israel is different to those of the Palestinians and share the same ancestor from the father's side to the Jews that came to Israel in the XX Century.
”I'd say if you take away the title of Jew from that 0.2% and compare them with other Nobel winners and then take the combined two initial groups compared with Nobel prize non-winners that you'll find the pertinent factors involved.”
You are not making any sense whatsoever.
Very well I'll rephrase.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Theres not even a tiny chance that the first Jews left Israel, stayed as one cohesive tribe, and then later returned, free from foreign genetic influence.
The original Jews traveled out of Israel in every direction gradually passing their genes to every continent, mixing with every race imaginable.
Jewish religion and culture was not only passed to new members from distant lands, but that the offspring of those first Jews also over time converted to Hinduism, Catholicism, Islam, you name it.
There is by now, no-one left on the planet that has ancestry exclusively inherited from the first Jews to leave Israel. Humans travel too much and fvck too much for this, especially in the age of modern transport.
Also anyone can easily convert to Judaism so no - not a causal factor.
Iran's president could have more genetic similarity with the biblical Jews than you.
You most probably have very little blood connection with the biblical Jews. I'd drop any idea of inherent Jewishness til after a blood sample if I was you.
Re; Nobel prizes: An outlier is a statistical anomaly, such as 0.2% having 22%. How can that happen ? - in the same way as you can have 90% of Canadian pro-hockey players with birthdays in the first four months of the year. Theres hidden factors, not a hockey gene.
Winners of Nobel prizes are generally from relatively advanced western industrialized nations, places with govt/industry funded research and quality universities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#mediaviewer/File:Worldmapnobellaureatesbycountry2.PNG
Israel and the United States account for 82% of the Jewish population
then its the EU, Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#mediaviewer/File:Worldmapnobellaureatesbycountry2.PNG
almost all from northern hemisphere industrial nations.
So yes 0.2% of the world have 22% of prizes in a competition where about, oh, 60% of the total competitors dont have the advantage of peace, food and good universities.
This is what happens when you talk about things you don’t know nor understand about and make a fool of yourself….I never talked about pure breed lines, you did and I warned you against it, but as you have a clear inferiority complex you just walked into it
Jan 29th, 2015 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now retard, what part of the fact that modern day Jews in Israel share the same Y chromosome than the Samaritans that have lived in Palestine for over a millennium and not with the Arab palestinians don’t you understand??
Man, if you don’t know what you are talking about shut the fuck up.
“Iran's president could have more genetic similarity with the biblical Jews than you” I don’t know, but maybe me not having any Jewish ancestry at all can explain that possibility.
You keep on talking about genetics, a subject you don’t understand a fuck about because you are racist and have a inferiority complex just like BioBio.
“Winners of Nobel prizes are generally from relatively advanced western industrialized nations, places with govt/industry funded research and quality universities. ”
But retard Nobel laureates are ANYWAY form western countries and the USSR… Yet Jews are still and remarkably over represented.!!!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country
The highest income households in the USA are Jews. Take Argentina for example. If Argentina won 5 Nobles one is of Jewish origin that makes it 20% of Argentine Nobles. The ballpoint pen Argentina’s most noticed invention was also created by a Hungarian Jewish immigrant.
@59
Jan 29th, 2015 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're drawing as usual a conclusion that confirms your paranoid, racist world view on the basis of data that is at best circumstantial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence
But no matter.
Given the remarkable performance of Ashkenazi Jews, whether its origin be cultural, social, or genetic, it's rather curious how few Nobel prizes have been awarded to citizens of Israel. Only 9, and 3 of them were the Peace Prize, and one of those went to Stern Gang terrorist Menachem Begin, which only goes to show what a keen sense of humour the Nobel Committee has.
That's really not an awful lot.
Surely it couldn't be that the smartest Jews aren't Zionists?
Turd Hamas
Jan 29th, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0India a country of over a billion ppl has won less than the State of Israel of 7 million ppl. Ireland has won all its prizes out of peace and literature save for Ernest Walton in Physics 1951.
You have a problem with that ?? Wright a complaint to the Nobel Committee.
“Surely it couldn't be that the smartest Jews aren't Zionists?”
So under your account all Israeli jews are Zionists. Finally admited so.
All this has being invented in Israel
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
Made in Israel – Technology
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
Made in Israel: Water
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
Made in Israel: Agriculture
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
Made in Israel -- Medicine
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
http://www.israel21c.org/technology/israels-top-45-greatest-inventions-of-all-time-2/
What have the detractors of Israel that denies its existance and right to exist created for the good of man kind in the last 20 years??
THE EXPLANATIONS THAT HE DIDN'T GIVE.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's really too sad to see once and again the decadence of part of argentine journalism, although it's well known that any journalist has right to support or to be detractor of any government, however what is absolutly unacceptable are the usuall mediatic operations, or the missinformation of many journalists, especially those from corporate press. Pachter said that when he wrote his tweet informing about nisman's death, he destroyed the operation of the government, however he didn't explain what was that operation. On the other hand, he didn't do any denounce.
On the other hand, there is something that cristina said a few days ago in one of her letters that i didn't like. She expressed she thinks that nisman was killed, i think it was very irresponsable from her, because justice hasn't determined yet whether it was a murder or a suicide, then i think she can't say it, although she has right to think whatever she wants, but she can't say something so terrible, if justice hasn't determined yet what really happened with him. In same way i criticised the despisable operations of hegemonical presss, which since the first moment tried to blame the government for nisman's death, without any proof, even after the words of prosecutor fein who said that ´´there are no sings of third person involve´´, i also think that this time the president committed a serious mistake when she said that.
I can't say whether nisman's death was an inten of braking cristina's government down, because we still don't know whether it was a murder or a suicide, but i have no doubt that nisman's weak denounce, where one of the most important arguments was rejected even by interpol, was just one more intent of eroding cristina's government, and i'm sure that there will be many others, untill december 10th, when c. f. k. ends her government.
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Jan 29th, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't see what you're going setting so shirty about, I'm only applying this Nobel prize yardstick that you've come up, and it leads to some remarkable conclusions.
We've already established by use of the yardstick that diaspora Jews are smarter than Zionist Jews, but that's not the only curious observation to emerge. Because it then transpires that the vast majority of the 190+ Jewish Nobel prizes have been won by Ashkenazi Jews, and the poor old Sephardim have only managed 12. Are we to conclude from this that Sephardi Jews aren't as smart as Ashkenazi Jews?
This Zionist rabbi certainly seems to think so : http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/religious-zionist-rabbi-moroccan-jews-can-t-match-ashkenazi-knowledge-1.425450
And what about the Mizrachim? I have to defer to your knowledge of Jewish Nobel prize winners here, because I can't seem to identify a single Mizrachi holder of one.
What explains this curious discrepancy? It surely can't be religion, it doesn't look like its culture, and it can't be genetic since these three populations are ethnically distinct. Maybe it's something to do with social conditions. If you grow up in a culture that values ambition and learning in a social environment that offers opportunities, then obviously you have a better chance than if you grow up in a society dominated by a rapacious authoritarian oligarchy whose main purpose is keeping its own snout in the trough.
Perhaps this might also explain why there are so few Nobel prizes in Latin America.
Or perhaps it might be that the Nobel prize yardstick is a lot of racist bollocks. And Vestige is right. Stranger things have happened.
“We've already established by use of the yardstick that diaspora Jews are smarter than Zionist Jews”
Jan 29th, 2015 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No you have not, you assumed so because of an idiotic reasoning of yours that because Israel only won 9 Nobles (which is not true) compared to the rest of Jews that dont live in Israel... Within that statement you also are saying that all Jews living in Israel are Zionists.
And Im saying look at all Israel has invented and given humanity.
“Surely it couldn't be that the smartest Jews aren't Zionists?”
Well here come the truth
Since 2002, six Israelis have won Nobel prizes. Significantly, none of the Israeli laureates won the Peace Prize, which does not necessarily indicate any great intellectual achievement (or sometimes any achievement at all). Many vastly larger countries with highly educated populations have not outperformed tiny Israel. France has produced six Nobel laureates in the same span, Germany and Russia five, Canada two, and India only one
Not to mention all that was created and invented in Israel.
The difference between Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardi ones is likely that the ones in Medieval Europe were forced into banking and trade and having to develop minds that were fluent in both Semitic languages and European ones.
Once the Sephardi's got expelled from Spain they became succesful traders in Amsterdam.
http://www.aei.org/publication/the-2011-nobel-prize-and-the-debate-over-jewish-iq/
Now, now dont go off tangent, look again at what Israel has given the world... What have you filthy ragheads given to the world since 1948 other than terrorism, sharia law, beheadings, rape and poverty?? Bet you are not going to answer that one
@67
Jan 29th, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know where you get this peculiar idea I have something against Jews. I just object to Israeli politicians killing hundreds of women and children every so often “pour encourager les autres”, or because Netanyahu is afraid of being outflanked on the right by religious extremists yet more bloodthirsty than he. And I don't quite see how the invention of ICQ or cultural mores in some of the more benighted parts of the Islamic world makes that OK. But that's just me.
Anyhow, I've been doing some further investigations of the Nobel prize yardstick and I've made yet another remarkable discovery.
It also turns out that 11% of Nobel prizes have been awarded to people with Scottish roots. Imagine. The Scottish are about 0.075% of the world's population, compared to the Jews 0.2%. Therefore, the chances of a Scot having a Noble prize are greater than the chances of a Jew having one. Or in other words, by the Nobel Prize yardstick, the Scots are smarter than the Jews. It didn't feel like that last time I was in Scotland, I must say, but the numbers speak for themselves.
That's not all either. The Scots came originally from Ireland some centuries ago. Surely this tally of Nobel prizes allows them to get back over there and take Ireland back off the Irish? After all, how many Nobel prizes have the Irish got? What have the Irish ever given the world? U2? Guiness?
I dont see any real evidence to support that. It must be some SNP shit you have read. And perhaps Scottish input in Canada, USA, England, AUS, NZ is even larger than the Jewish one. Even I have Scottish blood. Hell Kim Kardashian is Scottish descent. o,075% is the population of Scotland dumbarse.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Figures from the Nobel committee suggest that 14% of the prizes have been shared among 114 UK residents, only a handful of them born in Scotland.
http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/blknow_nobel.htm
So out of 114 UK winners 9 are actually Scottish, that is even less than the relation of the % of Scots in total UK population.
How many Prizes did Scotland win since 2002?
Care to use the same extrapolation with Jews in the USA??
Lets make it simple,
1) do you support the right of Israel to exist?
2)do you condemn Hamas and Hizbollah?
3)do you acknowledge Israel's legitimate right to defend itself?
4)do you recognize Israel as the only developed democracy in the middle east that fields outstanding progress, achievments in the fields of medicine, technology, agriculture and water usage?
My answer is yes to all four of them... Why should the world give a fuck about Palestinian terrorists??
@68
Jan 29th, 2015 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahem. The definition of Jewish in the list of Jewish Nobel winners included Jewish ancestry. Likewise the definition of Scots included Scots ancestry. Plus, as any Scot will tell you, Scots invented everything. Everybody knows that. And as you say, Scots are everywhere, and constitute an ancient culture that has always valued learning. They might even be genetically related, lots of them.
As for your 4 questions, as a moderate conservative I would answer Yes to all of them. Can't be clearer than that: 1) yes 2) yes 3) yes 4) yes.
I just don't see why any of that allows the Likudnik and worse extremists currently in charge of regional nuclear superpower Israel to maintain an open air hostage pen which they cull periodically in order to deter resistance to further conquest. Try reading the Likud charter and statements of Israeli politicians and you'll see what I mean.
Speaking of Nobel Prizes, by the way, the Swiss also seem to have a disproportionate amount of them, and it's not as if there's a Nobel prize for cuckoo clocks, chocolate, and money laundering. What's going on there, I wonder? What behaviour does that entitle Switzerland to?
CabezaDura2, I'd like to know what your actual contention is, it seems to be lost among all the calls of retard and ranting.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what about Israels Nobel prizes ?
Of the 12 awards : 3 are for peace (m'eh), 2 for economics (urrgh)and 1 for literature (m'eh X 10).
very good, but economics and literature hardly hold the same prestige as say medicine or the natural sciences.
Peace prizes - well I think Israels political circumstances probably were an influencing factor. A bit harder to make world peace if you're raised somewhere peaceful on the edge of civilization and normally irrelevant to world politics.
the remaining 6 are all for chemistry, very good, except for the fact that 2 of those were won by people born outside of Israel.
1 Didn't go to Israel til age 20 - educated in South Africa, parents Lithuanian and Czech.
1 Didn't go to Israel til age 13 and seems to have had Hungarian parents.
So 4 people born and raised in Israel have won Nobel prizes in natural sciences.
Sounds pretty average.
Israel wins approx 1 scientific Nobel prize every 15 years since its establishment.
Thats a perfect illustration, a predominantly Jewish country = an average performance. *Explain that*.
Jews worldwide win nobel prizes because they live in countries built by Europeans. Places with funds and facilities. Other religious denominations however, have huge numbers living in both 1st and 3rd world countries.
Change the competition to just modern nations and see what happens to that 0.2/22% ratio. I bet it falls like a rock.
The economics prize was only introduced in the 1960's and 41% of the time has been won by Jews.
So yeah Jews do well in economics, Jewish culture and history of focus on banking probably is a factor.
Ambitious yentas raising their sons to be bankers like their father and his father before him.
Then a competition for a prize in economics appears and unsurprisingly lots of Jewish wins, and so you get this 0.2/22
why even have a prize in Economics
So you agree that Israel has a right to defend themselves, you condemn Hamas and Hezbollah, then why are you bitching?? Because that is a contradiction in terms.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “pen” is not made by the Likud nor made to keep the Palestinians in door, its made to keep the Palestinians from getting to the Israeli Jews and killing them.
And it works
@71
Jan 29th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try reading what I wrote again.
@70
“CabezaDura2, I'd like to know what your actual contention is, it seems to be lost among all the calls of retard and ranting.”
Good point. Me too. It seems to be some kind of cultural version of might is right. As we know, that's been tried before, it wasn't right, and it turned out not be nearly so mighty at the end as it thought it was at the beginning.
@70 Says the Spic.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spicland in a Century that the Nobel Prize was delivered has only won just two in physics or medicine. And has only 7 prizes, 5 of them in literature. Yes those are crap, but economics?? You sure need those Spicland.
Do I need to remember you Spicland is 500 yo?? That it has 45 million ppl vs Israels only 7 million and that got independence in 1948?
As well Israelis have less academic life than their western counterparts. They spend 3 years in the Army!!
Economics is really complicated in high levels involving a whole load of statistics, formulas that people in Medicine are not involved with
Milton Friedman, ever heard of him?? Nobel prize winner, and pretty much mentor of modern economic libertarianism and was of Jewish background was not the son of a banking baron, his parents were poor. He even worked for 4 dollars an hour in his collage years.
Your and Hamas's assumption that because Jews from western countries do well because they have access to best academies, funding sources, etc is idiotic and retarded. Its very simple take the example of the US
(Jews currently make up approximately 0.2% of the world's population and 2% of the US population.)
At least 194 Jews and people of half- or three-quarters-Jewish ancestry have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 23% of all individual recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2014, and constituting 36% of all US recipients during the same period. In the scientific research fields of Chemistry, Economics, Physics, and Physiology/Medicine, the corresponding world and US percentages are 27% and 39%, respectively.
Scots diasporas alone are 8,3% of US population 25 MM people. More than the entire Jewish population world wide that at best is 18 MM people.
God you people are so stupid. Definitely neither of you two have Jewish IQs
@73
Jan 29th, 2015 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would that be an Ashkenazi IQ, a Sephardi IQ, or a Mizrachi IQ?
And are you going to answer Vestige's question: “CabezaDura2, I'd like to know what your actual contention is, it seems to be lost among all the calls of retard and ranting.”
The Jewish tally of Nobel prizes entitles them to what, exactly?
lol Jewish IQ - Anyone can have a Jewish IQ tomorrow, just convert to Judaism, and hey presto your IQ is now Jewish.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not yours then surely your children ... cause thats how its worked for centuries now.
Economics is indeed complicated and important - but then again so is Sociology, Linguistics, or Architecture.
If theres going to be a prize for economics then why not those too.
Anyway - still wondering what your actual point is ?
I hope its not that Jewish people are some kind of super-humans because, and with all respect to those who have suffered, being elite is generally associated with NOT getting your ass kicked for your entire history. or ending up getting shipped to a desert in foreign boats and later being surrounded by people firing rockets at you, or relying on foreign military aid, or working as Europes gate keeper, soaking up the Islamic threat before it can get anywhere important. Or having to bother with 3 years service just to survive. Patrolling while Europeans sip lattes and watch updates of your countrys problems on tv.
I think its strange that someone as elite as yourself has to fear rockets falling on his head when he steps out - but all those lowly goyim in the rest of the world don't. Strange how you don't have the goyim travelling to Israel and lobbying the Knesset for money yet you get Jews lobbying European parliaments and US congress.
But you got me on the Nobel prizes - I don't know for sure why the Jews have a disproportionate win rate at that 1 competition.
Do you ?
Just like people couldn't figure out why Canadian pro hockey players were 90% born in the first 4 months of the year.
Or why Jews were disproportionately represented in the NY legal system.
Or why Chinese do so well in mathematics. *
* its because of the Chinese language - numbers are arranged logically. 13 translates a ten-three. 21 is two tens one. Makes maths very easy.
Not like French where 97 for example is four twenties ten seven.
Hidden influences.
74.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Answer this “So you agree that Israel has a right to defend themselves, you condemn Hamas and Hezbollah, then why are you bitching?? Because that is a contradiction in terms. ”
Listen to what she said 36 years ago and its more accurate than ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU
75
You know what my point is, Jews are a remarkable and incredible people which have contributed a lot to humanity. That is why you are here and what draw you into this debate and to be ridiculed. The Nobel prizes is just one aspect, the reasons for this I have already explained ad naseum.
You tried to down play it by a genetical argument, you tried to downplay it by a argument of the western universities and upbringing and also failed
What really bothers you is that you have to conceive that Jews are more intellectually brighter than Spaniards or latins for example.
Its a unpolitically correct FACT that different ethnicities just as individual do indeed have different IQs, talents and abilities.
Deal with it.
Ah so thats your contention “Jews are more intellectually brighter than Spaniards or latins for example”.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bullshit.
In fact Ill make my own bullshit argument saying the reverse and it still will be stronger than yours. Here goes .... Jews have had their asses kicked and handed to them for centuries due to having a low IQ, whereas Spaniards built an empire - proof that Spanish IQ is higher. Spanish genetics result in an empire, Jewish genetics result in slave work for nazis.
Thats how human society works - the smart become rulers of empires and the dunces become the lowest of society as Jews were for centuries.
There you go - My proof is an empire that lasted centuries, your proof is a Scandinavian award ceremony.
All bullshit of course but still more believable that your superjew theory.
Deal with it.
And what has that got to do with the fact that indeed Spic IQs are far lower than jewish ones?? As you can see Israel far exceedes you already in many fields in its short existance.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spicland is in the border of colapse and extiction in 2015 and Israel is one of the most succesful countries in the planet. Having actually delivered any positive contribution to mankind in terms of science, technology, law nor culture like your raghead cousins from North Africa that used to fuck you for 800 years.
The only empire you created per sé is over indians that had no cavalry, gunpowder nor steel.
The Mongols had much a larger empire than the Spanish and with just 100 years of it had far more legacy in historical terms than the Spanish empire ever did in 300 years. And destroyed far more powerfull empires and rivals at their time.
Remember that in historical terms Israel has existed even longer than the entity you call Spain. In fact the Iberian peoples have gone extinct, so were other colonizers like Visigoths. The Jewish peoples and cultures have outlived them and they will certainly outlive you.
@76
Jan 29th, 2015 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Jews are more intellectually brighter than Spaniards or latins for example”.
But even if that were to be true, so what?
It is true. The problem is that Vestige has a inferiority complex and can’t deal with it. That is why we are having this discussion
Jan 29th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@80
Jan 29th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never mind Vestige. So what if “Jews are more intellectually brighter than Spaniards or latins for example”? What does that imply? What does that entitle them to?
It means that if was the Spaniards were in Gaza firing rockets at the Israelis my stance would be exactly the same.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No it doesn't. It means that you don't want to answer. Whyever could that be, I wonder?
Jan 29th, 2015 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Israel is one of the most succesful countries in the planet”.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol - Israel couldn't even hold the Sinai. Lost it to Egypt, not even a strong Egypt but a recovering Egypt lolol.
Its funded by charity from the US, spends its life being bombarded by neighbors, is best known for tormenting Palestinians, lives in the shadow of an Iran thats now too powerful to stop, and couldn't even get established without Britains help.
There are people alive today older than modern Israel. Wonder will it be around much longer. You can drive its width and back again on the same tank of gas.....using a moped, and drive the whole length of the tiny dump in 1 day in a car if you left around noon.
Half of it is desert, about a quarter of it is illegal settlements by UN law, what a hole.
17%
Being a liberal lefty eurofart it must be difficult, but you must understand that in the world there is still people that recognize and reward merit and virtue, and that is the case of the Jews.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige and you just react in this thread the same way Palestinians half a century ago reacted when the Jewish colonizers came along. Denial and inferiority complex envy and jealousy... He is a Spic and you are a Brit.... Maybe they should have just wiped out those Palestinians and there would not be a problem, after all its what Spain and Britain did in the Americas??? I mean instead of providing capital technology and development that translated into more jobs and attracted more arabs to the Mandate of Palestine they should have simply killed them all in 1948 and end of story... Would you still be complaining??? Well yes because antisemetism is alive and well in Europe and the world. And scum like yourselves will always exist, but you will come to past and the Jews will stay, as it has always happaned.
End of story
Is that the call to prayer or a rocket siren ??
Jan 29th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@86
Jan 29th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny guy, way to deflect. Here's to the day you get the Gualberto Villaroel sendoff you so richly deserve, kurepi. ;)
http://www.paginasiete.bo/u/fotografias/fotosnoticias/2014/7/31/int-31935.jpg
http://www.paginasiete.bo/u/fotografias/fotosnoticias/2014/7/31/int-31935.jpg
Disturbing photobucket account you have there imoyaro.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what a strange little fellow you are.
@88
Jan 29th, 2015 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't we supposed to be pissed off at the EekAMuslim! community for this kind of thing?
I dunno Hans - I tend to stay away from politics.
Jan 29th, 2015 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@90
Jan 30th, 2015 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol.
@85
Now, now, I'm a Brit. We have Nobel prizes pouring out of every orifice. Doesn't this mean we can do whatever we like?
@88
Jan 30th, 2015 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I certainly hope so, your ilk are very disturbing indeed. I think you know what a filthy K supporter like you can expect if you showed up on my doorstep. There's only one way to deal with congenital head choppers like you. ;)
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsryuikyku.gif
oh look an internet warrior
Jan 30th, 2015 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how green is your basement
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