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Germany urges Brazil with an EU/Mercosur trade agreement

Monday, February 16th 2015 - 08:51 UTC
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Germany wants to speed negotiations for a free trade agreement between the European Union and Mercosur, said Foreign minister Walter Steinmeier in Brasilia. The agreement has been pending since 1999 when discussions started but so far have been unable to reach a deal or commit a date because of internal problems from both sides. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    Argentina cannot even hold up the existing Mercosur agreement with Brazil and Uruguay, how does the EU / Germany expect to miraculously overcome the deadbeats of the south?

    Mercosur is nothing more than a political façade since Venezuela bullied their way in with “cheap” oil. Now look what we in Uruguay are paying due to the stupidity of Sendic, (as head of ANCAP) our soon to be V.P. and if Vasquez croaks he will become the Pres.!!!!

    Argentina still owes Uruguay for all the electricity to date that was sent via the Plate cable to help them out when their useless system failed again.

    When will the deadheads that rule us realise that TDC is taking the piss and 'helping our brothers' only works in their favour and screw you?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    ”Steinmeier stopped in Brazil as part of a South American tour that also includes Peru and Colombia, but has left out Argentina and Venezuela.”

    Argenchina and Venezcuba are irrelavent then?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    i am totally d'accord with an agreement between mercosur and the eu.
    and nobody gives a shite about what kirchner says, cause she is leaving the govt in +/- 6 months

    without argentina that agreement would have no sense, since argentina is the main player.

    now, it would be a lot better to have that agreement once england has left the eu.
    you know, for some reasons, they are not the most trustable pirates.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Without Argenchina the agreement would be more credible. Liars and cheats dont stick to agreements and cannot be trusted which is why it is shut out and treated as a pariah rogue state

    The UK will not leave the EU, it will just play a major part in reforming it. If it doesnt reform the EU will collapse anyway.

    As for our piratical past we are proud of it… Aharrr. Jim Laad!

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3. Well, well, pablo, I sort of agree with you. BUT not this bit.
    without argentina that agreement would have no sense, since argentina is the main player.' That's a joke, isn't it? It's true that argieland could be a 'main player' in a fart factory. Have you got a list of the agreements and contracts that argieland has fully complied with from beginning to end? That includes paying. It shouldn't take long. 5-10 minutes at the most. We mustn't get started on a list of treaties and international laws where argieland has failed to comply, ignored, reneged, repudiated or just wriggled out. There isn't enough time left in your life!

    I agree it would be better to have an agreement once England had left the EU. We're quite good at figuring out when argies are being corrupt, criminal or just plain lying. As a matter of interest, what are you going to do about Northern Ireland, Wales and 'the other place'? You see, here in the British Isles, we have this thing called the United Kingdom (UK). Things like defence and foreign affairs are still reserved to the UK. Northern Ireland, Wales and 'the other place' aren't members of the EU. The UK is. The largest constituent part of the UK is ENGLAND. Are you beginning to see problems with your 'cunning plan'?

    Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see the UK leave the EU. Wouldn't want you drooling on your keyboard but it would save us about £56 million every day. That's pounds sterling. Proper money. Not like the toilet paper you use.

    Meanwhile, many people in England, Northern Ireland, Wales and 'the other place' want to have as little to do with argieland as possible. Did you know that, during your little escapade in '82, you killed 28 servicemen from Wales, 22 from 'the other place' and 1 from the Republic of Ireland. Apart from the 3 civilian ladies from the Falklands, killed following an argie war crime, all the rest were from England. Can't imagine argieland being a popular place, can you?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    The UK will not leave the EU,

    Hang on a minute. Let's wait for the referendum. There are a lot of unhappy Brits who just can't wait to put their cross on a ballot paper to do exactly that.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #6
    To get a referendum you are assuming that the Conservatives will have an outright majority. That remains to be seen.
    Foreign companies invested in Britain BECAUSE we were in the EU and business was more amenable than a regulated regime in the rest of the EU.
    If Britain leaves the EU,will these companies leave and set up in Eastern Europe ? Starting a factory on a greenfield site with a cheap workforce could be attractive. Most manufacturing processes are now automated, and in the case of the car industry, produced by robots.
    If you think of SKODA, they were a joke until they came into the EU.
    Now their cars top the reliability tables and are best sellers..
    The idea of going back to trade with commonwealth countries is a non-starter.
    We cut them loose decades ago and they have established other markets.
    They owe us nothing as far as trade goes.
    One benefit of being in the EU is that it has stopped wars between the member states which has saved us more money than we have paid in.
    If Britain does pull out, then internationally we will be on our own with no voice that anyone will listen to. The days of PAX BRITTANICA are long gone.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    7 Absolutely right but with the SNP eating into Labour seats in Scotland it's not totally impossible that The Tories will get back in.
    The rest of your argument seems to be based on the fact that the UK is so insignificant that we cannot survive on our own. However a 60 million reasonably affluent market must hold some attractions for Germany, France, Italy, Spain et al. Don't get me wrong I'm not for cutting all ties and don't expect the EU to cut off its nose to spite its face. The SNP ran a similar argument during its argument for independence, that the rest of the UK wouldn't look to isolate/punish Scotland after independence and I think they were right.
    Not very good about cars but wasn't Skoda taken over by VW rather than the EU.
    As for The EU stopping wars I'm afraid they haven't done such a good job in the Ukraine and now stand accused of provoking a possible war with Russia.
    Anyway let's have the referendum and let the UK people decide.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 7 Clyde15
    “Foreign companies invested in Britain BECAUSE we were in the EU and business was more amenable than a regulated regime in the rest of the EU.”

    Surely the rules are all the same throughout the EU or are you saying some of the other countries ignore or bend them? :o)

    VW were the making of Skoda, not Poland, that was just cheap labour who would actually work; unlike the Greeks, Italians and the French to name a few who won't work.

    Unlike you I back the UK and think it would be much better out of the EU.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The UK should run not walk to the nearest EU exit.
    They never should have been a part of what is becoming a failed experiment.

    Run my friends run as fast as you can.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    If the EU cannot or will not reform sensibly then it will be better for the UK to be out of it. Perfectly possible for the UK, let no one tell you otherwise.

    If that happens then the simple maths is (UK being the second biggest net payer after Germany, and just ahead of France) the EU will have to drastically reform to simply survive.

    That said, the greatest achievement by far of the European project has been to make Europe, for all its war torn history, a place where war is no longer seen as an option for solving disputes.

    Indeed a condition of entry talks to the EU has been a settling existing disputes, such as in the Balkans or the Aegean.

    If the EU can be made to work properly (or at lest better) it is a model for the future.

    Unlike Sillyband and Ball, never forgetting that Ed was one of two people mainly responsible for getting us into this sh*t in the first place.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    The EU was a perfectly good idea as a trading group. What we disagree with is a politically run

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Who is Christian Rubilar?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    england should get out from the eu, but first they have to PAY THEIR DEBTS.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15748696

    on the other hand, once they leave the eu, the whole europe will openly support ireland, spain and argentina in their claims for NI, gibraltar and the islets.

    so, go ahead.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yeah, Ireland doesn't claim Northern Ireland.

    I blame your education.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Wow Paul I didn't think you could know less about the UK than you do Argentina.
    Silly boy.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #14 stevie.....er I mean Dany...er.....

    Are the UK's debts past due....or even due? Have they defaulted or not paid their creditors like Argentina?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    14 POLLY

    You IDIOT!

    I blame the BBC for not making it clear to stupid buggers such as you that the debt is for EVERYTHING, including bank / financial sector debt. Did you even click on the various sectors to see what was owed, in turn, to the UK?

    AND, IT WAS JUNE 2011, not February 2015!

    The UK made a massive loan to Ireland when it all went tits up for them. This massive loan was financed by the financial industry at a very low rate of interest to the UK government which in turn “added a bit” and loaned it to Ireland. The loan was still at a much lower rate than Ireland could have obtained for itself.

    AND, finally, the UK can carry this money (much reduced now) because we only pay the smallest of loan rates. Why is this? The UK PAYS WHAT IT OWES unlike your shithole of a country, the pariah of the world.

    What a plonker.

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Pauly, we dont need anyones support to retain land that is legally ours. There is nothing you or any of your dodgy friends can do about it. So, get used to it!

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Britain does pull out, then internationally we will be on our own with no voice

    Well, we had a vice before we went in,

    Cameron will never reform Europe,

    We have to come out,
    How can anyone that even remotely believes in democracy stay in a Europe with a Unelected president,
    The Eu has not/ever been signed of,
    And they take billions from us,

    And guess what is missing from the UK that we need for investment,
    Money money money, that's all it takes, and we give billions to the EU and nearly 12 billion to aid,

    Now eye think those billions and billions should be invested in the British people , for the British people for the benefit of the British people,

    Roads, rail , power , ship building , steel , schools , NHS , etc etc
    Out of the EU before it swallows us.
    Just my opinion.
    But remember this,,,
    There is nothing, but nothing , that the EU can do for the British people,, that the British government cannot, do for the British people,

    And if that British government cannot or will not do for the British people,
    Then there is something very seriously wrong with the British government….
    .

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    2/16/15

    Dear Mini-Me Kirchner:

    Can we exchange our Mercopress camper trolls for some that are slightly more literate? And if it isn't to much of an imposition, could they have a wider knowledge of geopolitical affairs and history? These have proven to be very limited and to be truthful our side has suffered from a lack of worthy opposition. It's hard to stay fit and at the ready when the other team poses no challenge.

    Again, I hate to nag but if you have better available and you can spare them - please do so.

    Best wishes for the immediate downfall of perronism and the utter distruction of rotting roadkill!

    Very truly yours,

    chronic.

    cc: Cretina Kirchner

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    christine
    “I blame the BBC for not making it clear to stupid buggers such as you that the debt is for EVERYTHING, including bank / financial sector debt. ”

    yes.
    that is called external debt
    external debt= deuda pública + deuda privada.

    whats your level of education?
    you failed kindergarten?

    “AND, IT WAS JUNE 2011, not February 2015!”

    EXACTLY!
    well said.
    it is a lot worse now:
    http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    How much of that debt was not paid back?

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    UK’s in – out EU referendum Rock’s greatest challenge says next Attorney General
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=35506

    They state-
    Recently appointed Attorney General for Gibraltar Michael Llamas, QC.
    the Rock has faced and heads the effects of a changing Europe and a campaigning Spain

    I would like to see HMG take the view that EU law applies between the UK and Gibraltar,
    Gibraltar should integrate Schengen and the EU Customs Union is one
    Seems likely. Mr Lllamas’ view reinforces the view of many on the Rock, including the Chief Minister, that the biggest challenge of all would be a future UK Government referendum on EU membership.
    ////////
    We could well be seeing the end of British Gibraltar for a European state called Gibraltar,

    Being a part of the European union [fully] and thus protected by the EU, including Spain,
    Will the overlords once again convince the electorate that they would be better of and protected by the EU rather than Britain,
    Until Spain changes its mind,

    Just saying like,
    Perhaps I have it completely wrong, but this is one decision the Gibraltarians cannot afford to get wrong,
    Especially when espania lives next door, And like Argentina believes the rules only apply when it suits them,

    Just my opinion.

    .

    Feb 16th, 2015 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    rotting roadkill:

    Stop cheating.

    Pay your debts.

    Abide by the law.

    Live within your means.

    Respect your neighbors.

    Clean up the dog feces on the sidewalks.

    Get off of your lazy asses and do some actual work.

    Shut up (better to be thought a fool than to confirm it).

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Getting back to the actual theme of the article, (forgive me :-), MercoSur is a dead duck. Argentina and now VeneCuba are dragging it underwater.

    Brazil would be better off leaving this, now, political talking shop.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    I don't see that a free trade deal with the EU would have much to offer Brazil. They should focus more on the PRC and the Pacific.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    somebody has definitely hacked Hepatia!
    She is talking sense at last.
    Or is it a 'chronic' misunderstanding?
    ;-)
    xx

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Argentina

    JUSTICE FOR NISMAN

    Stop cheating.

    Pay your debts.

    Abide by the law.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @14 Paulcedron

    As an Irishman born bred and proud I find it very offensive that someone as obviously ill-educated as yourself should claim that my country has territorial claims over someone else's country. That is simply NOT TRUE.
    Also, as someone else has pointed out if it wasn't for the UK we would have been in deep crap when our economy went tits up. Not only that but if the UK left the EU it is probable that that Ireland would also have to as the UK is bay far Ireland's largest trading partner. Without the UK we would be as broke as Argentina, Spain, Italy and Greece. So, I personally would like to than the UK for what they have done for us. In the past things have not been so good that I accept (and deplore) but that is the past and should stay there just like 200 year old claims to other peoples homes.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @30
    Great post.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    30

    Hear hear... !!

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 30

    Thank you for stating that on this site.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #30
    Let it also be said that the Irish have contributed a lot to the UK's economy with immigrants -does not seem an appropriate word- working in the building trades, the NHS, literature and the Arts.
    There will be hardly anyone in the UK without some family connection, however distant, to Ireland.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy did you read about the incinerated woman found? And yet....it disappeared from the news already.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    30 darragh
    nice post..

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    34
    It was very good of Darragh @30 to post his view on MP.

    Doubtless, it will contrast with some of the more vocal hateful elements on this site.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    30
    you irish?
    “So, I personally would like to than the UK for what they have done for us.”

    and what the fuck have they done for “you”, you “irishman”?
    let's see:
    a genocide, that surely you think it was a famine.
    sending the black and tans to commit all kind of crime and massacres.
    plus Na Trioblóidí, bloody sunday, springhill, ballymurphy, discrimination against catholics and the list goes on and on.

    irishman...yeah, right.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Voila !!

    and the “vocal hateful element” arrives @38 !!!

    Pablo will tell us he is now “Paul”, an Irishman, greatly wronged by the evil English.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    At least we never threw NUNS from helicopters.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Everything Pablo talks about, is 100,200, 300, or 400 years ago, or more...

    Nothing to do with the present day, of course.

    Hateful, boy...

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    40. That and provide refuge for a nation that systemically almost elim I mated a group of people from this earth. Now they are taking a endentured potion to a national who's founder is responsible for genocide to the tune of 70 million....Mao.

    Argentina......always on the human side.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    an irishman thanking the british...weird.
    it would be as a jewish polish thanking the nazis for what they have done.

    what an imbecile...

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    or an argy/Spanish thanking this tiny island for putting BOTH of you in your place, in time past...lol

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    44
    boludo
    as far as i know, britain tried 3 (three) times to invade buenos aires and those 3 (three) times they were put in their place, you imbecile.

    ok they got the consolation prize with the islets.
    but the time for colonies is over, it is just a question of time for you all to return to vaterland

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    britain tried 3 (three) times

    Are you stating that the British Army/Navy tried,

    or more truthfully an allied force, including the French,

    you imbecile==confused.com

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    45 pelotudo
    primera invasión inglesa, 1806
    who were the invaders?
    england, you pelotudo

    segunda invasión inglesa, 1807
    who were the invaders?
    england, you pelotudo.

    vuelta de obligado, 1845
    who were the invaders?
    england, you pelotudo, and france.

    now do the maths, you pelotudo; 1+1+1 = 3

    got it, pelotudo?

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Answer the question,
    and stop moving the goal posts with rubbish.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    43 Bitter RentBoy

    I expect that all you know about Ireland is what some plastered unemployed persons in a bar told you, right?

    Likely, they talked about the English being the root of all their troubles, right again??

    Tell me it isn't so.

    I'm waiting

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    British invasions of the Río de la Plata [ not English ]

    Detachment from the British army occupied Buenos Aires for 46 days in 1806 before being expelled//,before Argentina existed,

    In 1807, a second force stormed and occupied Montevideo, remaining for several months, and a third force made a second attempt to take Buenos Aires. After several days of street-fighting against the local militia and Spanish colonial army,
    [ Again not English,, or an Argentine army, ]
    And it was mainly around the river plate, so hardly a grand invasion of Argentina, which did not actually exist at this time,
    And the troops involved were less that 6,000, so hardly a great army,

    So in essence, you win some—you lose some,
    And the argie militia did very well ,

    Still, Paulie old chap
    Why you not stop living in the past, reading hundreds of papers looking fior anything that is anti british,

    And get on with the future,
    After all, you lost in 1982 so get over it…

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Paulcedron

    Paul, what I actually said in my post if you bothered to read it was that recently Ireland has a lot to thank the UK for. I also stated that that had not always been the case but that what happened in the past belongs in the past. Perhaps that's a lesson you and your cronies should learn.

    As to your doubts about my nationality well....what would you like me to do - send you a copy of my passport or I could give you a tour of Dingle...we could pop into Flaherty's for a pint then round to Paddy Bawn Brosnans where we could have a game of pool and sit in front of the fire and have a chat with Moira the landlady, then we could nip down to the Chowder café for something to eat - no wait..they aren't open this late so perhaps we could nip up Green St to Dick Mack's it, like it's advertising says is 'just opposite the church', then up the top, turn right into main street and nip in Foxy John's - the bar is on the left and on the right he sells hardware etc. then we could walk past the Centra Supermarket and down to the Old Smokehouse, turn right past O'Sullivans, past the Court House and up to the IRA Memorial, then along to the roundabout, and into the Fisheries Harbour. along to the Ice Plant then around the Marina - what do say - are you up for it....

    Personally I don't think you are a South American, I suspect you are really a Spaniard living in a squat in Athens - prove me wrong.

    I see you are being foul-mouthed as usual - your Mother must be so proud.

    Feb 17th, 2015 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Darragh

    To put my post @49 in perspective,

    Once upon a time, when Paul -Troon first started on MP, he told us he visited his “Irish cousins” and over drinks, they 'explained' about the English to him.
    Apparently, they had a right old 'hate-fest'.

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Pauli looks backwards SO much he must have a permanent crick in his neck.
    He must be a joy in company !

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    53. Yes its a very odd habit the Kidiots have with history. They equate 200-300 year old history with today.
    It is a very strange way to think
    And its from the lot of them
    It show how poorly educated and miserable they are

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “It show how poorly educated and miserable they are”

    poorly educated?
    200- 300 year old history?
    the troubles ended in 1998, you genius.

    let me do the maths:
    2015 -1998 = 17 years.

    yankeeboy:
    history: flunk
    maths: flunk

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    55 Paul-Troon

    So you ARE basing your intimate knowledge of the “hated English” and their relationship with the Irish, on your drunken bar talk??

    Hmm, successful and reasonable Darragh who lives in Eire, seems far more credible than a petulant ranting, self-proclaimed English-hating inarticulate Malvinista like yourself.

    By your own reckoning, 17 years, that's almost a generation ago.
    I guess the Irish felt they had more to gain by working with the North and the UK.

    They had a good ride on the “Celtic Tiger”, and saw the advantages of looking outward. They've seen what their economic potential could be.
    Do you think they want to go back to the way it was?

    The Irish I know, and those I've met, and they are many, are beautiful people in or out of Ireland.

    The Irish seemed to have moved on, I don't know why you can't?

    Mind you, having a villain to heap your failures on, is a great relief for your bitterness, I suppose.

    BTW,
    JUSTICE FOR NISMAN !!
    Argentina- pay your debts!!

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The Army Ranger Wing - Irish Special Forces
    The Army Ranger Wing is the elite special operations forces of the Defence Forces, the military of Ireland
    http://forces.tv/14471098

    This Unit is officially designated 'Sciathán Fianóglach an Airm'

    51 darragh
    Did you know these existed,

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    57 Briton

    Not everyone has permission to access that link

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    57 Briton

    There's nothing secret about them - I read somewhere that they have just made an agreement with the Brit SAS to work together.

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    That link is not accessible, though.

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @60 Troy

    Try en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Ranger_Wing

    Feb 18th, 2015 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Thx Darragh

    I found it!

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    62@
    sorry you cant get the link,
    http://forces.tv/
    you may try this.

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    darragh......hooorah....Rangers lead the way.....all the way!!!

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    QPR or Celtic.....lolol

    Justa joka.

    Apparently even Argentina has some special forces,
    when you can find em....

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Found the info, no
    Problem!

    200 strong - External and Internal missions!

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    toy
    “I found it!”
    “Found the info, no
    Problem!”

    you found something on the internet?
    wow
    what a genius...
    lol. que boludo que sos.

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Briton ......Argentina's SF are used on the political opposition line Nisman. Anyone hear anything more on the woman burned to death at Nisman's apartment? I doubt it. SF at work.

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    @68 Nothing new about that. This morning in my way to a client, I passed by that place and the perimeter tape is already gone.

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @67 Pablo - we're screwed - RentBoy

    Gosh, you CAN reply!!

    Did you read my other post @56, too?

    “The Irish seemed to have moved on, I don't know why you can't?

    Mind you, having a villain to heap your failures on, is a great relief for your bitterness, I suppose.

    BTW,
    JUSTICE FOR NISMAN !!
    Argentina- pay your debts!!”

    Got any answers or reasoned thoughts???

    No, I thought not. It is beyond you to go past your conditioned hate responses.

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    68'
    perhaps 67 paulcedron is a secret agent...lol

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    TOY
    you are a funny nabo.
    you dont even know what the fuck justice for nisman means, but you repeat it constantly.

    the death of nisman is a disparador, catalizador, now nisman per se was a piece of shite, you boludo.

    he, his wife arroyo salgado, stiuso and the rest of the side did all the dirty job for the government during +/- 10 years,

    the only good thing the twat did was to accuse kirchner and timerman.

    so, again, before saying a single word, try at least to know its significado, pedazo de boludo

    Feb 19th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    72 malen/Pablo

    The issue here, in case it escaped you, is that a Federal Prosecutor fulfilling his role in the Judiciary - was about to expose the Prez. for corruption and coverup of a terrorist act resulting in the deaths of 85 Aryentinians!

    He was then murdered by his own government, to thwart that path of Justice.

    Now there is a coverup of the Murder by the same government!

    Outrageous - you need to expose the truth.

    Instead, for some reason, you reject that, and vent your anger on us - the same people that criticise your Government for their corruption and overt criminality.

    YOU ARE THE BIGGEST IDIOT HERE.

    Get angry at your Gov. and their supporters/enablers.

    At the root of all this, You hate us highlighting these failures - you are EMBARRASSED by your Country !!!!

    Oh, the SHAME!!!

    LOL!!

    JUSTICE FOR NISMAN!!!

    Did YOU go on the march???

    NO, - then you are part of the problem!!

    Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    imbecile
    “Instead, for some reason, you reject that, and vent your anger on us - the same people that criticise your Government for their corruption and overt criminality.”

    i think i already told you, but clearly your level of understanding is zero, nil, null, nothing.
    nobody with a bit of a brain can agree with you, it doesn't matter if you are saying the same thing.
    that is because your comments lack of content, contenido, argumento.

    your knowledge about the issue is zero, nil, null, nothing.
    you dont know who the fuck was nisman, who the fuck are stiuso, arroyo, yrimia, lagomarsino, berni, gils carbó, etc

    you dont know what the fuck they did in the past 10 years or what the fuck they are doing now.

    so, again, the problem is your ignorance.
    you should stop embarrassing yourself and shut the fuck up.

    and i am in punta del este right now, how could i go to the march, you retarded isleter?
    eh?

    Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Paula why don't you show us all on MP how your knowledge is so much more superior....why is that, because you are Argentine?

    Feb 20th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    75 Poppy

    I told you, he couldn't be bothered.

    Pablo supposedly lives right in BA, he has known for days about this march.

    It was the biggest demonstration in ages, a chance to embarrass CFK, and take a moral stand.

    Hundreds of thousands marched in BA, alone!!

    How many people traveled to the city, just to March??

    Thousands marched in other communities, too.

    Did Pablo ?? No.

    For all his blistering, the shame of it is that he is a lazy coward that talks big, nothing more.

    We're laughing at you Paul - you have the government that YOU deserve anyway!!

    Feb 20th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thanks Paulcedron.

    Viva Argentina!

    Feb 20th, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    74 Pablo PillowBoy

    You and Brassiero @77 look good together - two of a kind.

    I can hardly tell you apart, except Brassiero doesn't seem to suffer from Tourette's Syndrome.

    Feb 21st, 2015 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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