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Montevideo, October 4th 2023 - 23:11 UTC
Argentina's Central bank will make available next March the new 50-peso bill paying tribute to Argentina’s sovereignty over the resource-rich archipelago, under the slogan “Malvinas Islands. A sovereign love.” Read full article
Poor old Malvinista's - can't distinguish between 'love' and obsession.
As Klingon pointed out, it's just another excuse to print more money. ;)
A Three dollar bill at the blue rate? How apt.
3. lol. Exactly.
About the sinking of the Belgrano:
Cretina, do you wish to sink a few more?
@4.... no can do.... already sunk em themselves.
When the Arg peso reaches parity with the bolivar they will make attractive bog paper... well they will be the only bog paper unless you are using the executive karzi and get to use the $100s.
Nice to see Rivero is back in favour....
I love the smell of desperation in the air.
Given the quality of Argentine money (remember when they left the 1 off of the 100 peso note?) they'll probably bugger this up too.
But no matter what they put on their currency it will NEVER disguise the fact that Argentina's economy is in the toilet, and it is finally beginning to dawn on the useless government that the money the Chinese promised was never going to come to them, only be paid directly to the Chinese companies that now have the monopoly to build all of Argentina's 'new' infrastructure.
So pretty pictures and a desperate attempt to divert the population (again) won't hide the fact that many Argentines are struggling to put food on the table. They don't give a crap about the mythical malvinas they only care about surviving.
But as others have said, it'll make pretty toilet paper.
Whats with the fat goofy horse? Looks like a 3rd grader drew that pic.
It's lovely of Argentina to celebrate British territory.
Would they print some with Gibraltar too?
Gaucho Rivero led an Argentine uprising did he?
Cool....he murdered Matthew Brisbane, the designated representative and agent of Luis Vernet.
So by admission the Vernet community and it's representatives we're in fact British occupiers.
Right..good..so we are back to 50 crew of the Sarandi for 6 weeks in 1832 as Argentinas sole claim.
More misinformation about the sinking of the Belgrano. Very odd!
Both the Head of the Argentine Navy and the Captain of the vessel stated that the sinking of the Belgrano was a genuine act of war and, had the positions been reversed, then they would have acted in the same way!
It would make more sense if they issued a bill featuring the roll over destroyer and a graphic of a Villa Miseria. And, perhaps a slogan Viveza Criolla por todos or something? Perhaps Think could suggest something if he has emerged from his stupor this morning?
Thought that Argentina would be using the Yuan by March?
”Argentine 50-Peso bill in March dedicated to “Malvinas Islands. A sovereign love.”
Oh, how gauche, have these people no shame!
I wonder how much 50 Argentine pesos were worth in terms of real money (like the GBP) at 1844 hours UTC on 24 February 2015.
”The bill also shows albatrosses....'
That's apt, it symbolises the giant Falkland's albatross myth that is attached to the neck of the Argentine government and people.
It is quite apt, that just like their sovereignty claim, the bank note is utterly worthless.
President of the Central Bank Alejandro Vanoli has said the decision to launch the new bill aims at “incorporating a new element of daily use to the inalienable sovereignty demand over the Malvinas Islands.“
Sr. Hedgehog ” Vanoli, I salute .you ! Your original idea, CFK, or . . . . ?
Are all Loyal and patriotic Argentines then mandated to buy a few, like the Nazi's did with Reichmarks ?
What incredible bombast.
Didn't know there was a Malvinas Islands.
What a pretty looking note.
What a pity that its pretty worthless.
l might buy a few to add to my collection of foreign useless mickey mouse money.
Like the Zimbabwe 500Trillion Dollar notes.
l would say that it would cost more to print these useless RG notes than what they are actually worth! lolz
Give it three months then ask the average person in the street there what picture is on the 50 peso note, - Those who get the answer correct will probably have had to think about it first.
Thank you Argentina for printing a bank note that celebrates your talent for veracity and logical consistency.
Who else can simultaneously believe that the population of the islands was expelled by the dastardly Brits in January 1833, and yet by some miraculous inversion of the laws of physics Argentine national hero El Asasino Rivero, his henchmen and victims were still somehow present on the islands to engage in a murder spree five months later.
What next on an argie banknote?
A picture of TMBOA in shining armour tgw lance squaring up to the Jabberwocky?
Makes as much sense as this thing.
CFK must be in the sh*t again, when she:s waving the Falklands, its like a kitten with a piece of string
How nice, the have included all our Southern Ocean territories.
Q. What can you get for 3 quid?
A. A blow job from TMBOA!
Haha, worth exactly £3.72. In a year or two, perhaps £0.37? Like the Argentine claim to the Falklands, it's hardly worth the paper it's written on.
I suspect that the tactic of ramming the so called 'Malvinas' down the throats of the entire population- the signs on highways, the naming of every second street, suburb, park, school and lamp post as 'Malvinas' the mandatory stickers on buses, the naming of a class of minor warships that will never dock there, and now this- banknotes that are not legal tender on the very islands they depict-only serves as a constant reminder to ordinary argentines of both their government's misplaced priorities and it's utter and embarrassing failure in achieving them.
Another brilliant piece of lies cooked up by their corrupt leader. However CFK in her stupidity has once again opened an opportunity up for the world to see the Falklands as they are Very British and a far cry from the chaos currently ruling in Argentina. Chances are collectors will by these notes with a view to coming to the Islands and Boy what an eye opener they will get. Yes these little Islands are populated with a very large ENGLISH speaking people who one day will control the land Known as Argentina when CFK has finished destroying it.
Absurd. Absolutely Absurd.
That baseless claim over and over. More fiction (gaucho rivero as a national hero? seriously?). More BS. More color papers to disguise our high inflation.
Once again we are the world´s clown.
This is NOT the way to honor our veterans. This is NOT the way to be a better country. This is NOT serious. This is silly, period.
But, hey, it´s Cristina and her cronies, what else could be expected?
Printing toilet paper for the people of the Falklands.....how quaint !
@27 - Soft, strong and plentiful?
I'd query the strong bit though...
The truth is this is the closest they will come to getting there hands on the Falkland Islands, so why not let them simply enjoy it :-)
They could have at least added another zero to it... This note may only allow you buy a coffee and a couple of croissants. 60% of Argentine paper money is the $100 denomination note of Roca and Evita and they dont last anything.
@9. No-one should forget that Rivero actually murdered FIVE people. And it was such a popular 'uprising' that he actually had the 'support' of two gauchos and five Charrua indians. All of whose names are known. Strange that, following the 'uprising', the population, mostly women and children, then fled to Peat Island, where they stayed for two months before being rescued by the sealer 'Hopeful'. Considering that Britain is referred to with the epithet 'pirates', I wonder why Rivero was taken all the way to London to be put on trial. Surely it would have been easier to just drop him overboard. Isn't that what 'pirates' do? Then he couldn't be tried because the legal system didn't permit it. So he and his fellow murderers had to be shipped all the way back to Rio where they were released. More opportunities to drop the lot of them overboard missed!
@10. One correction, if you don't mind. Replace 'genuine' with 'lawful'. After all, argieland had been informed on 23 April, via the Swiss Embassy in Buenos Aires, that the British could and would do anything necessary anywhere.
@19. Seven months, not five.
@24. Wouldn't it be fun if there were enough 'rebels' to go around altering all the notices you've mentioned to 'Falkland Islands'?
@25. I do so hope you are making a correct prophesy. It would be absolutely magical if latinos could spend the rest of their worthless lives being treated the way they treat the Amerindians.
@29. Why? There's no good reason to allow argies to enjoy anything. I wonder if there's a law somewhere that makes it illegal to depict another country on currency? Maybe time for some responsible nation to get resolutions passed by the UN making it illegal for things like genocide, war crimes and illicit territorial claims to be depicted.
Funny. In the real world you commemorate victories.
30. rotting roadkill's cafe/media lunas for free aren't a bargain let alone $3 US. Tell me ten(10) good(positive virtue) things about rotting roadkill that are unassailable. Still nothing?
@ 20 - Governor Roberts in stilletos!
... gotta love Cristina!! ... I'm so moved by this
I would venture a guess that this is a last and desperate attempt to divert attention from the economics at home by trying to keep the least relevant issue to the Argentine people alive......the Malvinas Islands myth. What better way to do that then have them see it every day via currency. And.....it also serves as a reason to print more money without retiring existing currency in circulation. The simplicity of their thinking is sophomoric at best.
isn't it pretty though?
putting aside its design, the thing is the note is almost worthless.
it reminds me a lot of that joke of falkland island pound...lol
try to pay something with argentine pesos of that shite of falkland island pound in the rest of the world and they will laugh their ass off.
I'd rather go back to the Mememtruchos. That thing was hilarious.
We are now ready for the next currency: 100 pesos = 1 Mango.
”President of the Central Bank Alejandro Vanoli has said the decision to launch the new bill aims at “incorporating a new element of daily use to the inalienable sovereignty demand over the Malvinas Islands.“
Daily use....I refer you back to comment # 27
#37 I would answer you directly if i could understand what you are saying.
The Falklands, Gibraltar, Channel islands: (Jersey, Guensey etc) Pounds are directly transferable at a 1:1 with the British Pound.
Unlike most? or even all? South American countries the British pound is exchangeable at one rate to a currency. With various currencies being more or less valuable.
This needing Blue, Black, Grey whatever exchange rates for your own currency is totally unheard of in the civilized world.
That is because more or less, our economy work.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE A HOMAGE, NOT NISMAN.
It's obvious that i will always agree on this kind of homages to our soldiers, in the same way i have always known perfectly that we won't never recover what the ex british empire stole us, i also know that there will always be many people who will keep on being happy believing that only our side omits information before the u. n., about the malvinas-falkland cause. It doesn't sorprise because it's well known that there have always been ignorant or hypocrite people. As far as i'm concerned, i explained in planty of opportunities in mercopress what both sides omit.
However this time i wanted to say all this, because in the actual argentine political context, where some cretins make a homage for somebody who doesn't deserve it, i think it's necesary to remind who are those people who really deserve to be honoured.
On the other hand, i wanted to say that if the islanders decided to forgive thatcher for having ignored the warns, repecting the cuts that she decided to do for the defence of the south atlantic, or for having sent nicholas readley to the islands and to buenos aires in 1980, in order to find a solution for the conflict, or for having retired the british nationality for many people from the islands, i accept it, in fact, forgiviness is something absolutly respectable, but what i won't never do, is to buy the hypocritical vertion which says that thatcher decided to go to a war, because she wanted the right to self determination for the islanders to be respected, although many people don't accept it, all the facts i described show the contrary, perhaps they haven't realized yt that she just used this cause, to save her misserable government, as galtieir did.
I know that some people will start insulting me after reading this, as they sometimes do, but i think that the day the stop being so mediocre, they will realize that they don't need to insult anybody to defend their ideas.
Whoa. Did you get a second beer with that choripan for this post?
HOMAGE!?! You're all drunk!
No wonder you don't like Thatcher though. It must be difficult to understand what it is like to have a sane, strong, loyal and uncorrupt leader who WINS battles.
Your jealousy still shines through, even in your amazingly incomprehensible posts.
41. I am prepared as always to insult a camper troll but I can't make heads or tails out of that garbled mess that you penned. Sorry.
Hi Axel, you have been missed. We haven't had a good laugh for a week! We have now.... Bahahahaha You are as whacky as Pauly, but more civil. Your Engrish hasn't improved either.
Perhaps a Goat would have been more appropriate on the worthless banknote as its that year in Argenchina?
Whats hard to understand is that Argenchina has never taken its claim to the IJC. Do you think its because your claim is bogus?
Has the note a picture of a pagoda too.
Dear sweet (but incredibly thick, and utterly brainwashed) Axel
Firstly, the former British Empire didn't steal anything from you. We've been through this a number of times. When the former Spanish Empire collapsed, a bunch of South Americans started claiming independence (forgetting that they, and not the Spanish were the real colonisers) but hey-ho. Argentines became Argentina, Uruguayans became Uruguay, Paraguay...you get the gist.
However, the Falkland Islanders (the Spanish on the islands) became.....well mostly Spanish as they returned to Spain...and the others became Uruguayan...not a single solitary one became Argentine.
Luis Vernet...well according to you President, GauchomRivero murdered his deputy and appointed agent in act of defiance against the British...thus concluding that the Vernet community was British.
So, the only Argentines ever on the islands, representing the Argentine government was the crew of the Sarandi...who murdered their captain and raped his wife...six weeks after arrival the British expelled them.
THESE ARE FACTS.
As far as Mrs. thatchers motives Axel, you do make me laugh.....your country invades e territory of mine..and you DARE to question our motives for kicking you out....you cheeky twat. Our motive was you invasion...your sly, nasty, cowardly invasion...
But that's you all over Axel, sly and cowardly....
@41 axel arg
Kindly omit all the verbiage and explain in as few words of REAL English as possible exactly what you are attempting to say to this forum.
”The Falklands, Gibraltar, Channel islands: (Jersey, Guensey etc) Pounds are directly transferable at a 1:1 with the British Pound.
you dont understand the difference between rest of the world and britain, do you, you nincompoop?
i know you have never traveled outside the stinky islets, but try to exchange that toy money from the fucklands, gibraltar, etc in any other country than britain and they will laugh to death
and it is not Guensey”, you ignoramus.
it is guernsey.
Well Pauly, you have exposed the fact that you have never travelled at all! Our currencies are welcomed in at least 40 countries that I have visited. How many have you visited - Uraguay or Portugal (both of which welcome the pound) or both?
Ignorant foul mouthed twat...
So the Central Bank of Argentina has taken to printing counterfeit money....just like their real money, not worth anything.
Paul, it's funny you should mention toy money. The Argentine peso has been made just that by you know who. The Menemtruchos mentioned above by Tarquin have more value as collector's items. ;)
Pablo : Try changing Argentine pesos in a bureau de change in the US or Europe and they fall about laughing .
Cuevas in BA love the UK Pound .
You need to start getting real . The islands will always be British .
Especially now that Kletina has given the Chinese 600 Has to build a space station , or missile base .
54. Unconvertible in Houston and New York - but still accepted for bubble gum at a couple places in Miami.
Like I said above, Menemtruchos are worth more than real Argentine money...
It's obvious that i will always agree on this kind of homages to our soldiers,”
How on earth does the spinning of blatantly asinine claims pay homage to soldiers sent to invade an island for nothing other than political misdirection...
What you fail to understand is the psyche of the British people.
When the invasion took place, most people in the UK had no idea where the Falklands were. When newsreel footage came through of the Royal Marines being humiliated by their captors and the happy cheering crowds in the Plaza de Mayo, the mood turned to quiet fury.
There was NO way that any government was going to survive without taking military action.
We empathise with underdogs. Basically what we wanted was to get down there and kick the crap out of the Argentine forces....which we did...and restore the islanders freedom.
The risks were formidable and success was not guaranteed but we still took it on.
Thatcher could not have done anything else.
You are mixing what YOU , an Argentine citizen feels his govt. would have done in our place. We don't think the same way as you do.
Add the following to Clyde15 excellent post:
'We don't think the same way as you do...and The Blessed Margaret had bigger balls than any of you.
Since that fateful day TDC has shrunk it's balls until they look like raisins: shrivelled up little things that decades ago once thought they could deal with the British. You were wrong then and the stupid, stupid, nonsense you continue to spout proves you haven't learnt a thing.”
Peace for the Falkland's and death and destruction to TDC (which they are well on the way of doing for themselves).
Who got the contract for printing this note, by the way? Was it Boudou?
this is just monopoly money,
or something you would buy from a toy shop,
I don't know how much it is worth,
but you can bet the gutters will be filled with it...
Paulecrdon- wrong again!! Several Casa de Cambios in Punta Arenas- Republica De Chile- accept and give you Chilean pesos-dollars or whatever for Falkland Islands Currency Notes.
Axel- I can only emphasize what Clyde said at 58 - your military and you just have no grasp of what the British always regard as sacrosanct principles.
In the 20th and 21st centuries you do not just go in and nick somebody elses homeland and expect to get away with it-especially if those people are British or have a defence treaty with Britain.
You might have possibly got away with it - as the Foreign Office in London was wringing its hands and telling Mrs Thatcher nothing could be done -but then your overballsized military went and made British Royal Marines lie face down in the street and took pics of themselves standing over them with rifles
and published them!!!!!!
That was very very stupid! It got right up the nostrils of probably 99% of the British Population - If Mrs Thatcher had not then responded to the advice from her senior Navy Officer - she would have been out of power within a week. As would any other Primeminister and Govt.
What she did had 0% to do with politics opinion ratings - it was the only response any British Govt would do.
Well, now we know the value Argentina actually puts on the Malvinas.
Don't know what to spend your 5o peso note on? Why not try a Las Malvinas son Argentinas Combo Meal?
the voice of ignorance,
rest of boludos:
it seems you, not too bright bennys, confuse the british pound with that toy money from the islets, gibraltar, etc, no?
nobody would give a shite for that currency outside the islets.
it is T-O-Y M-O-N-E-Y.
and the argentine peso is crap too, you boludos.
who is saying le contraire??
and you, #50 the voice of pelotudez, what the fuck is uraguay, you idiot?
are you naturally imbecile, you train to be so imbecile or you are imbecile and dyslexic?
Wow it's amazing how you keep showing your ignorance over and over again.
Go to any reputable (that means non-Argentine) currency converter and they will show you that the Falklands pound and the Great British pound share parity with each other.
To make it easy for you to understand that means they are worth exactly the same as each other. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't make it untrue.
As for 'nobody would give a shite for the currency' outside of the Falklands, well you are wrong on that count too. On numerous occasions I have been given coins from several British Overseas territories in my change. And you know what, it doesn't matter because they have the same value and are legal tender.
That means, unlike your worthless Argentine peso, you can exchange them for goods and services.
So the Falklands currency is actually worth something and the Argentine peso is worthless.
Is that why you are so angry? Desperate to get your hands on some proper currency like GBP, FKP or USD instead of the cheap toilet paper your government tells you is money?
This whole thing is a distraction to keep the sheep from noticing the huge devaluation happening daily. Anyone following the peso can see it heading in one direction quickly.
”Go to any reputable (that means non-Argentine) currency converter and they will show you that the Falklands pound and the Great British pound share parity with each other.”
are you even more imbecile than the voice of pelotudez?
what the fucj has that got to do?
for your standards 1 falkland pound (lol) can share parity with whatever the fuck you want.
the thing is, you idiot, that NOBODY would exchange that toy money for the local currency in any country in the world, except britain (maybe).
Pauly idiot...Easy to change Falklands money anywhere. Its not toilet paper like your stuff. Even in Uraguay Bahahaha Learn to spell if you are going to attempt to write in Engrish
@67 paulcesspit....so nobody eh, did you read what islander1 wrote @61.......'Paulecrdon- wrong again!! Several Casa de Cambios in Punta Arenas- Republica De Chile- accept and give you Chilean pesos-dollars or whatever for Falkland Islands Currency Notes.' Which bit of that sentence are you having difficulty in understanding. Or do you ignore all the facts that don't align with your opinions.
How is your portfolio coming along, worked on any award winning projects, did I mention I had......oh yes thats right I did but you failed to respond to that post. Some of us 'Do', while you just dream and pretend.
Paul, the Argentine Peso = T-O-Y M-O-N-E-Y.
Even Menemtruchos are more valuable. Get it? ;)
68 the voice of pelotudez
it seems your ignorance and idiocy have no boundaries.
what´s your level of education?
kindergarten in the pork stanley community school?
and who the fuck cares if in...punta arenas (LOL x 1 MILLION) they give you a pair of candies for that joke of money which is not backed by a central bank?
try to exchange that toy money in paris, rome, madrid, barcelona, zurich, amsterdam, etc and then talk, you pair of assholes.
and yes, you have to travel for that, d'oh.
Pauly Uraguay is next to Argenchina. Your geography is pathetic. The only thing you are any good at is bad language. Are you proud of that?
Argenchina has practically had to adopt the dollar. It could do worse than adopt the Falkland pound. At least it would be accepted everywhere unlike the Argenchina Pesto?
You cant even swear accurately in Argenchinian!
So, the only Argentines ever on the islands, representing the Argentine government was the crew of the Sarandi.
Unless what I have read is not factual, most of the sailors manning the Sarandi were British nationals/mercenaries, who weren't for some reason keen to resist Onslow's crew (I wonder why????). So whilst some of the Sarandi's crew represented Argentina, most of them weren't keen to and in practice, didn't.
A bit like if Onslow's force was made up of mostly Argentine mercenaries and the captain scratching his head as to why they would not fight Argentines when they got down South.
No brainer, except for an Argentine.
32 Rotting Redneck....
....Funny. In the real world you commemorate victories.
Would you like to explain what it is your National Anthem is celebrating...?
I'll save you the time....
It is celebrating surviving the bombardment of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in the Chesapeake Bay in the War of 1812.......a war that you declared....started ....and didn't win....
In other words you are commemorating a humiliating defeat...Doh!
74. Uhhh . . . voice . .. uhh - WE WON THE WAR!
Message for idiot child/mamarracho/paulcedron
Who travels with banknotes these days? Currency smugglers from Argentina? Sensible and honest people travel with travellers cheques and/or their credit and debit cards so it really does not matter whether their base country banknotes are acceptable worldwide or not.
But, just to reiterate - those British Overseas Teterritories which use the pound as currency enjoy parity with the UK pound. Do you know what that means? IT HAS THE SAME VALUE!
Erm, no, you didn't.
You probably get taught that you did, BUT.
1) We stopped you invading Canada.
2) We captured & burned most of your capital(you didn't get anywhere near ours).
3) When the Napoleonic Wars were finally over & we got ready to send our experienced troops to North America, you quickly sued for peace.
You won individual battles, so did we.
At best, l would say a draw. And thats being generous.
It depends on how you look at it. Actually a draw, with Canada coming out best and the native Americans losing as usual
Here's one that the USA certainly did not win.
@ Folks, if any of you could please tell me:
- Is the Falkland Pound only good at the FI or it can be used outside (in other British territories, even the UK)?
- Who ´prints` the FI banknotes?
- Can I use UK´s sterling pounds in the FI ?
Thanks in advance.
75 chronic (#)
74. Uhhh . . . voice . .. uhh - WE WON THE WAR
if you think you did,
pleaser explain your reasons,
If you Google Falkland Islands Currency you will find a plethora of information which will not only answer your enquiry but will also be a lesson for the idiot child paulcedron!
you can't focus on the subject, eh, can you fatso?
the issue here is not if you travel with cash, credit cards or travellers cheques, you fart blower.
the thing is that nobody would accept your currency in any other country, got it?
and that is a fact.
as for paying with cash, you idiot, most of the international tourists here pay with cash because it is +40% cheaper than paying with credit card.
anyway, what can you know, fatso?
That's right Isolde. History is always interesting. ;)
That's is right Isolde ...you tell him.....
The Rotting Redneck is suffering from Chronic Gullibleindoctrinatedamericanitus....
The US main objective of annexing the British Territory of Canada was an abysmal FAILURE....
The British main objective of retaining this territory and splitting North America in two was a complete SUCCESS.....
So what do you call a war in which you fail to achieve your main objective.....LOST!!
Argentine 50-Peso bill
Apparently she wants all south American currencies to include this ,
funny money , funny CFK .lol
@ 81 fair enough, I´ll check that.
Banknotes are printed by De la Rue plc on behalf of the Falkland Island Commissioners of Currency, I am unsure as to who mints the coinage though.
For your information the exchange rate for 50 Argentine pesos (ARS) converted to Falkland Island Pounds (FKP) is the following:
50.00 ARS = 3.70249 FKP
Argentine Peso ↔ Falkland Island Pound
1 ARS = 0.0740498 FKP 1 FKP = 13.5044 ARS
There is absolutely no charge for this service.
Thank you Steve R
Idiot child @ 82
Strange, but I have travelled extensively over the last few years in Europe and the Americas and MY currency has never been rejected.
What a boludo/pelotudo you are!
you travelled a lot?
lol, yeah, right...
from the pingüinera to your shack, round trip.
Idiot child - you get everything wrong, don't you?
It is so satisfying to witness all your metidas de patas!
Argentine 50-Peso bill dedicated to “Malvinas Islands. A sovereign love.”
Unrequited love would be a more accurate description!
Complete waste of taxpayers money,
still, CFK don't care.
En vez de llenarse la boca de Malvinas imprimiendo billetes sin sentido porque no se dedican fondos para mantener el cementerio de Darwin y reconocer los caidos sin nombre que tenemos en dicho cementerio ??? son como mas de 100 !!!
Could you post in English please.
See rules about posts above at COMMENTS.
Comments must be in English
It probably won't be around long. It will eventually be replaced with a coin before a new currency is created.... or the current one is redenominated.
US dollar is 230 years old.
Pound Sterling is more than 1,000 years old.
The current worthless Argentinean Peso is only 23 years old. And won't last another 10 years.
I might go one as a collectors item. However at A$4.90, I'll hold off until it is worth about a dollar later this year.
A joke bank-note for a joke economy. Another fantasy distraction in the name of some form of misplaced 'nationalism'.
What a sad, fucked-up country.
The only thing funnier is to see penguin-cedron express his parochialism and obvious inexperience of international travel.
Modern people don't wander around the capital cities of Europe with wads of their local currency, hoping to find a good exchange-rate in some back-street 'casa de cambio'. That is what the the illegal African immigrants do, and probably get massively exploited in the process.
Everybody in the 1st world uses debit/credit cards for normal transactions, at zero charge normally.
In London payments of less than £20 can be made by the 'contactless' payment system. Does Argentina have this yet?
It is only when I am in Vnzla that I have to pay by cash.
If paying with US$ I can get a massive discount.
Even when I can pay by card it is hard to trust people not to copy your bank-details and try to exploit you.
paulie is so funny, a child in an adult world. It is ironic he still doesn't understand how backward he/Argenteena is, yet still judges others by his local standards.
To whom it may concern!
The comments @ 95 in Spanish are not those of a troll. I see nothing offensive there although, of course, the rules have not been observed.
I think that's meant to be a black-browed albatross (mollymauk) on the note - funny thing is, it looks a lot more like a Dodo.
Rather apt, for an extinct claim....................
What can you buy in Argentina for 50 Pesos?
Not being sarcastic, would genuinely like to know.
You can buy a Las Malvinas Son Argentinas Combo Meal, and still have some change left.
101 lsolde (#)
Feb 26th, 2015 - 09:03 am
About 280 grammes of pastrami!!!!
A joke bank-note for a joke economy.!
This money was actually made for an Argentine 'Mythical Malvinas' board game based on Monopoly where the objective is to get into as much debt as possible without paying any money back.
Also by throwing a six, all the Argentines ships submarines and aircraft miraculously work and also by throwing a good number with the dice, the RIC can be removed and the Typhoons T45s and Astute submarines (etc etc) can be disabled at an instant, thus allowing the 'Malvinas moment of eternal Argentine victory.'
Sadly, the money for the board game found its way to the Argentine mint and got printed where as Simon 68 points out it can be usefully deployed to buy About 280 grammes of pastrami!!!!
So assuming pastrami tastes nice, this money is of some use.
@96 Got it . I figured by now the editor would delete my comment anyways . Better ? :-)
@99 I appreciate that
@101 I don't know what you can buy in Argentina for 50 pesos but I can tell you that I paid 5 bucks for a lip balm in Stanley !! lol Geezzz
You can buy (as of today, tomorrow never knows ...)
*. A cheap lunch consisting of one dubious milanesa with fries or smashed potatos and a soda.
* 10 rides on the subway
* 4 litters of milk
* 1 1/2 litter of sunflower cooking oil
* 2 slices of good pizza and a soda
* 4 litters of gasoline
and why do you want to know?
as far as we all know, traveling is not one of your strong points.
@107 and Isolde says Not being sarcastic, would genuinely like to know
be nice ! :-)
I wouldn't waste my time if I were you. Paul seems pretty angry these days. ;)
you can buy 5 choripans.....
(106) Tarquin Fin
Obviously, it is NOT you who does the daily shopping...
(Or your almacenero is ripping you off...)
For 50 mangos you should, at least get...:
* 5 liters of fresh milk...
* 3 bottles of 1 1/2 litter of sunflower cooking oil...
* 3 to 4 slices of good pizza and a soda (In a Nac&Pop area of town)
All your other prices are quite correct...
Obviously Drink has not been in Argentina recently. ;)
Thank you Gentlemen.
lt is a little bit expensive here, but its bearable.
And its such a lovely, peaceful place.
So its well worth it.
Argentina's Central Bank has missed the bus. Instead of just claiming the so-called
Malvinas, it should claim the Virreinato del Rio de la Plata. All of it. No kidding!
Is there any place where you can rent four wheelers ?
Five bucks for a lip balm in Puerto Estanley!!!
How much did they charge you for doing your nails???
No 4x4 rent for tourists in them islands...
All we were able to do was to hire a driver for 6 hours
anything in the islets, even gifted, is expensive.
all i would pay for a stay in one of those hotels (LOL) they have there, is a good kick in the ass to the owner.
and i would be losing money.
No 4x4 rent for tourists in them islands...
Correction - No 4x4 rent for Argie tourists, they might get up to mischief. Everyone else is ok.
The Land Rover dealership wont rent, but will kindly point them in the right direction to hire a local driver and car, to take them to the cemetery.
There are some lovely little War Museums scattered all over the Islands for tourists. Too bad the Argies will never see them.
Not because of, and maybe in spite of, this bank note the UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.
It's probably for his own good that they don't let Drink rent a 4x4. He'd just turn it over while out on a bender and die of exposure anyway.
He's already died of 'exposure' twice on MP - Surfer and Commander DoD
Funny! He's as easy to detect as Chopper. ;)
Hmm. this actually made it on to the Beeb news site
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !
There are some lovely little War Museums scattered all over the Islands for tourists. Too bad the Argies will never see them.
Wrong again !! we had maps plus the recollections of those who fought in 82 so actually we saw them all :-)
5 litters of milk for 50 pesos? Which brand? The one they make out of reconstituted powder in old clunky washing machines to be sold as precios cuidados?
I said good pizza, the real one, with real muzzarella. Do you think Boedo is a higher class neighborhood?
You are right about the cooking oil, depending on brand, you can get 1 1/2 litter of pure sunflower at 32 pesos. My bad.
(128) Tarquin Fin
Which brand of milk...?
Sancor or La Serenisima... Whole or skimmed... In sachets...
Just under 10 Pesos per litre in any supermarket of south-western Chubut... (all six of them ;-)
Where do you get that in Argentina?
Certainly NOT in Boedo!
(For your kind info..., REAL Mozzarella is made from water buffalo milk using the stretched curd technique.
Mr Think is about time you do a profile summary like you used to . Everybody is new .
Is Lord Ton the ex cop living in Malaysia ? :-)
Not Malaysia... but Thailand....
He recently informed me, kind of tongue-in-cheek, that his Missus insisted in moving to an isolated plantation because she thought that he was having too much fun in Pattaya's bars...
Oh shit ! that's no good . Nice guy though
That's not like you... an extended personal attack on a poster, and insulting and defaming his wife and loved ones... !
Oh, wait, yes, yes it is. :-(
Oh my God !
Are you an attorney Mr Troy? :-)
It's Drink. What else would you expect. Let's not forget his absolute favorite line from Martin Fierro, a figure he reveres... Dios hizo a los blancos y a los mulatos San Pedro, y a los negro los hizo el diablo para tizón del infierno. Hell of a guy. ;)
... Think you are crazy ... under 10 pesos ... have to pinch myself
How much is a pizza at Los Inmortales ?
Not under 150 pesos. (The big one, 8 slices)
As I said before, my worthy Engrish adversary, Mr. Lorton told me about his predicament himself...
Poor Lad ;-)))
”14 Lord Ton Jul 05th, 2014 - 11:23
Good to hear the ladies are still attentive Think. Mine has moved me “up-country” soon to be 25km from the nearest bar. Accused me of having too much fun in Pattaya. Looks like I'll be raising mango trees and annoying Filmus. Well, eveyone should have a hobby :-)
On popular demand (see 131), a short profile summary (from the tol of me head) of them posters on this thread..:
Mr. Heisenbergcontext: Intelligent Aussie.
Imoyaro: Anglo Turnip somehow related with Paraguay.
Frank: Anglo Turnip, probably Kiwi.
Chronic: Complete Anglo Turnip.
Leprecon: Childish Anglo Turnip.
Klingon: Anglo Turnip, lives in RA, pretends to be Argie.
Brasherboot: Just another Turnip.
Monkeymagic: One more Anglo Turnip.
Gordo1: Yet another Anglo Turnip.
CaptainSilver: Ignorant Anglo Turnip.
Mr. Lorton: Intelligent Expat Engrish Ex-Copper.
Downunder: Anglo Turnip.
Britworker: Boring Anglo Turnip.
Botinho: Brazilian Neo-liberal Half-turnip.
Mendoza Canadian: Repenting Anglo Expat trapped in RA.
Chère Isolde: Funny Flirting Squatterette in Malvinas.
EscocesDoido: Very Short Scot with a sense of humour.
HansNiesund: Turnip on Argie issues. Intelligent in general.
ChrisR: Anglo Psycho Repenting Expat Turnip in Uruguay.
Lornefirth: Just another Anglo Turnip.
The Voice: Trolling, boring Anglo Turnip.
Evil colonialist pirate: Anglo Turnip.
Justthefacts: Anglo Turnip.
Mr. Kelperabout: A Kelper defending himself.
SebaSvtz: Argentinean Neo-Liberal Turnip.
Viscount Falkland: Uninteresting Anglo Turnip.
Rufus: Anglo Turnip.
Steve R: Usually, an insulting Anglo Turnip.
CabezaDura2: Complete Argie Turnip... Likes to lie.
Conqueror: Anglo Turnip Surprise.
Falklandlad: Sensible Kelper defending himself.
Tarquin Fin: Argie Neoliberal Halfturnip with some humour.
CaptainPoppy: Argie married, foul mouthed Yank.
Paulcedron: An Angry Anti-K Argie.
Zathras: Turnip... Anglo.
AxelArg: Polite, consistent Argie lad... Like him.
Room101: Yet another Anglo Turnip.
Jack Bauer: complete Anglo Turnip.
Anbar: Anglo Turnip.
Clyde15: Sensible Scot. Wise on birds and trees, not Argentina.
Briton: Simpleton Anglo Turnip.
Islander1: Yet another good Kelper defending himself.
Faulconbridge: Anglo Turnip.
Dsullivanboston: Just another Yankee Turnip, it seems.
A link, also?
Thank you, Think, I stand corrected.
I have to ask though, why did you bother to mention it in the first place.
I find it interesting that you and a_voice seem to catalogue these personal tidbits on all of us, and have them readily at hand .
As I said before, Troy, think SI. How do you think a pensioner can afford single malt liquors? Notice...I'm from Paraguay. (Please don't tell him about the secret Paraguayan base in Argentine Antarctica.) I couldn't make this stuff up. ;)
Outstanding report Sr Think ! amazing record keeping also . Too bad we don't agree in ANY domestic issues !!! :-)
Viva la Patria carajo !!
I have stated before that Think, Voice and some others have a Troll Data Base.
I think it is called Multi-Troll - as several of them seem to have access to it.
One of the times Sr. a_voice was showing off, he mentioned to Osolde or ElaineB that he planted word keys within the text of each different thread so that he could easily reference posts for rebuttle.
Sounds very systematic of him, if not weirdly obsessive.
when you say Anglo is Brit only ? American too ?
Sounds very systematic of him, if not weirdly obsessive.
Not if that is your assignment. It's all in a day's work. On the other hand I have the whackjob in the other thread whining jeez...in fact what are you all about.. All in a day's work. ;)
(Continues from 114)
Buzzaw: One more Anglo Turnip.
PeteBog: And yet another Anglo Turnip.
Mr. Voice: Smarter than most of us... Lots of fun ;-)))
Simon68: An angry Anti-K Argie Turnip from Neuquen.
Jaydub: Anglo Turnip.
Artillero601: His surname makes me shiver, no kidding.
Skip: Our special sensibilities Aussie....
Ilsen: Turnip, Anglo.
Troy Tempest: Strings are obvious on this Kanuk puppet.
Philippe: Useless Turnip.
Mrs. Hepatia: Irritates the hell out of the Anglo Turnips :-)))
Boufiewolf: A new one, don't know yet.
Not if that is your assignment.
That's exactly what I was implying.
Hey that's my line... ;)
And finally Think, a sub-educated egotistical moron moving at the mental speed of a striking slug.
I have to say every time Drink name drops Wittgenstein, I am reminded of the concept that in the final analysis, words mean nothing. ;)
agree in general.
you missed elaina
You forgot a pacifist commie as well. I can think of a few more choice words. He is fairly self absorbing.......I bet he comes in at a muscular 16 stone.
Ah but Paul, he forgot to list you as being obsessed with Jewish Masonic Banking Conspiracies. That's as funny as any of the above. At least I've got that down. ;)
Viva la Patria carajo !!
that´s the important thing artillero
@144, 151 Think the profiler..
you omitted your invaluable opinion of the 'brasileiro', kindly referred to as 'brasshole'...
It would be nice if your country could turn itself around, but I'm afraid it's going to take time, and history is nothing if not brutal.
Anglo turnip at (156)
The mental speed of a striking slug... you said?
I didn't mention ElaineB because she hasn't posted on this thread...
(159) Nam baby killer
190 cm and about 70 kg of brain, bone and skin...
What about you?
Jack, he'd need to have 3 entries for Brasso, one for each personality. ;)
I will admit that I don't have a nickname or description for Think that is longer than one word.
That one word sums up so much: educational attainment and quality, standard of living, future prospects, past glories, futility of national obsession, inability to change, income paucity and sensitivity to brainwashing.
Think is ARGENTINEAN!
Nostrils is ARGENTINEAN!
Paul is ARGENTINEAN!
Axel is ARGENTINEAN!
Marcos is ARGENTINEAN!
Hepatia is ARGENTINEAN!
Guess I'm just more efficient. Probably because I'm not ARGENTINEAN!
Obvious Think puppet - another one of his ' conversation enablers'/dramatic device.
Aw Think! You didn't have to ... I'm blushing you silly!!
paulcedron anti-K? What about all those Malvinas rants? That boy sure is a strange and complex persona.
@139 Artillero: I was a bit off about Los Inmortales pizza. Just walked by one of their joints and it turns out that a big one of Muzza, is 126 pesos, but if you dare to ask for basil and olives it climbs to a staggering 162 pesos. Those gotta be the most delicious olives in the whole wide world!!!
@166 Skip, you sure are a very efficient butt-wipe. I thought you could be more intelligent than that. Guess I was wrong. My bad again. Look, leave that kind of comments to yankeeboy and Conqueror. They have mastered it. You still have a loooong road ahead to become a real Argentina basher and earn my respect.
Kudos to all the above. Tres amusant.
(169) Tarquin Fin
You are usually a bit off about many topics...
Especially about pizza!
My Belgrano Pizza Pusher (Burgio, Cabildo al 2400...)
Three huge slices of Pizza de molde, de dorapa y una coca for just under cincuenta mangos...
My Ligurian Pizza Pusher, near Portofino charges 4 €uro for a plain Margherita...
Ask him to throw in a couple of asciuge and some taggiasche olives and the price rises to 6 €uro...
Such shameless behaviour is called Capitalism ;-)
You forgot to list yourself, Think.
Think(well he doesn't think that much:-
Old reprobate embittered remittance man, living alone in southern Patagonia(he says!), very Anti-British, but generally hides it. Sometimes bursts out like an erupting boil. lol!
several failed marriages, probably because he tried to dominate the women.
Ultra Argentine nationalist to the point of the ridiculous.
Defends Argentina even when he knows that Argentina is not only wrong, in the wrong & just generally being an asshole to their neighbours.
Because he is a first generation Argentine(again, only his word for it)he feels that he has to show his loyalty by supporting Argentina's ridiculous claims on anyone else's land.
Has been known to tell fibs, lots of fibs, in fact he lies through his teeth.
Twists, turns, deflects & wriggles like a snake.
Hard to pin down, but it can be done.
lf he is cornered then he just leaves the tread or ignores the question & comes up with the most ludicrous theories & arguments.
l'll never forget that Think's main argument re Argentina's claims South Georgia were that a child born there, of Norwegian parents in British territory, later in life moved to Argentina & became an Arg citizen.
Never heard of such clap-trap in all my life!
Weak, Think, weak, weak, weak, feeble.
Anyway thats my summery of sr Think.
ps, think he doesn't mind a tipple of whisky or two. lol.
(172) Cère Isolde
Very good Saturday morning to you too..., babykins.
I'm on my third ristretto... And you?
It's spelled summary...; not summery.
Good saturday morn to you too, Thinkus,
Can't stay long & can't drink as l'm preparing our saturday roast.
Don't want to stagger around the kitchen & spoil it, do ah?
Well the weather is summery dontcha think?
Point taken, well done for noticing it.
Morning? On my side of Atlantic? At 9am UK time?
R U Sure Sistah?
what are you going to roast, iso?
Nam baby killer Stink? A bit before my tour. Try again. My best fun was in the western hemispere after nam baby killers. Someplace you are not.
Shouldn't that be Chère??
Funny that in your post, snidely correcting Isolde's spelling, you f^cked up your own sarcastic endearment - LOL !!
I understand the humilliation that many people in britain must have felt when they saw in the newspapers that their soldiers lied threatened on the floor, but i really don't buy the explanation which says that thatcher decided to go to a war, because she wanted to save the honour of a nation, humilliated by a criminal dictatorship. Anyway i can also understand that in some way she had no other choice, because the invation of 1982 shows that her policy towards the islands was too bad. If the islanders are honest, they won't omit that before the war, even thatcher's governmnet was very hostil with them.
I have said in planty of opportunities that if she was so interested in recovering the islands for britain, she could have achieved without going to a war, in fact she could have sent a humanitarian mission to the archiplago, in order to protect the islanders from possible violations to their human rights, and at the same time, she could start to negotiate a solution with arg., as it had been recommended in many resolutions by the u. n., however, if she had taken that decision, perhaps it wouldn't have been good for her in electoral terms, anyway, she wasn't going to be neather the firts, nor the last misserable politician who was able to do anything to save a government, even a war.
Sorry guys, but these are the reasons why i don't buy your romantic explanation.
On the other hand, in my next comment i'll talk about some historical aspects of this conflict, because some people insist on believing that only our sides makes a too partial lecture, that's why they prefer buying the official history, and insult all those who are detractros.
179. I weep for the children you teach. You are so blindingly stupid it is hard to imagine how you get through a day without help.
After picking though your pidgeon English all I can come up with is you think an AN ARMED INVASION should be met with humanitarian aid workers?
Stupid stupid fool
You're country is doomed with people like you teaching the next generation.
I can't wait until you all are fighting over the last bag of beans left in Buenos Aires.
Shouldn't be too long now.
Hey brother, Burgio is like my second home. I live close by so I frequently stop by for a couple of slices when I get off the subte when coming home late from the office. When was the last time you were there? Things go crazy price wise in just a couple of days, and I bet the gallego at Burgio doesn't like to lose money and subsidise me, even after a long day in the office. Looks like el gallego and I are both shameless capitalists. Which is cool, since sometimes he compliments me with a free moscato.
With a comment like that I sometimes wonder whether you enjoy ridicule....
Imagine if you will, that instead of Britain it was USA claimed territory or Russian or Chinese or even Brazilian...do you think they would they have negotiated for a military Junta to leave...or retaliated in a likewise manner....?
I know if it was the US...not only would they have responded with military might..but they would also have invaded the mainland and likely there would be one or two US bases stationed there to make sure it never happened again...
Think sensibly before you post Axel.....
(181) Tarquin Fin
A small world indeed...
Cuantas veces, ya desde pendejo, me habré pateado esas veinte cuadras desde la villa para morfarme la mejor pizza de Belgrano..., servida en esos lujosos platos de aluminio...
You could then, quite easily, tell us the current price for 3 slices de muzarella and one coke... couldn't you?
Geeeeee..... all this talk about Pizza made me hungry...
Una grande de morrones... Ñammmi...
O una fugazza!!! (con cebolla pero SIN tomate, por favor)
MY ANSWER PART II.
I recognize that i didn't express my self correctly in my comment 179, what i wanted to say, is that thatcher could have sent a military and humanitarian mission to protect the islanders from possible violations to their human rights, and at the same time, she could start to negotiate a solution with arg., as it had been recommended by the u. n.in many resolutions, in fact i have said the same in many other of my comments.
Read my comment 41, and you'll know some more about the decisions of thatcher's government before 1982.
On the other hand, if somebody asks me whether britain had sovereign rights over the islands in 1833, i would say yes, because in the nootka sound treaty of 1799, there was a secret article which let britain set up a settement, if a third power did the same. In the case of argentina, it had exercised a permanent controll over the soledad island (actual east falkland), and in virtue of the sucession of states, it had sovereign rights unless over that island. If the u. k. had sovereign rights too, it could have found a negotiated solution with the united provinces, or perhaps both countries could have shared the sovereignty, however the u. k. decided to deprive our country of exercising it's rights in 1833.
Some people argue that the u. k. had more rights because it discovered the islands, which is actually something too controvertial, but even if it was true, according to public int. right, discovery just gives a precarious tittle, which must be improved with a permanent occupation, and the u. k. only occupied permanently port egmont for 8 years, and it didn't occupy permanently the archipelago again untill 1833. The fact that some countries that joined the viceroalty decided to separate part from it, it's something irrelevant, because if they decided to be independent nations, they have no rights over the islands, we didn't didn't decide to leave the malvinas, we were forced to do it. In my next comment, i'll say much more.
The whole idea of the pizza conversation ( with extras) was to convey the true price of a pizza in today's Pesos - substantially more than you guessed, with your outdated info.
Right, it made myself hungry too. Which villa where you from? The one that used to be where Barrio River now stands? I thought you were a Chubut raised welsh descendant, now it turns out you were born in Belgrano. Small world indeed.
We could meet sometime at Burgio, but if you want to enjoy the best fugazza ever made, I'll take you to San Antonio Boedo.
185. The Sistah knows why it was brought up and that it has made a fool of itself again.
BTW is it morning in Argentina when its 9am in UK? Technically. I guess so.
Who else is up that late posting on this side of the Atlantic tho?
I realise the Sistah knows very well.
It just needed to be clearly stated so that he could not play dumb
(186) Tarquin Fin
Born and raised in Palermo..., as a matter of fact.
Villa Ombúes to be more precise...
The Colegiales and Bajo Belgrano villas taught me, early on, other realities.
Boedo's fugazza is surely all right..
Thinking about that, I've never been to Boedo!
Anyhow, in my humble opinion, the best focaccia con cipolle I know of is to be had in Camogli...
MY ANSWER, PART III.
If some people don't agree on my opinion, when i say that thatcher could have sent a militar and humanitarian mission to the islands, i respect it, but what bothers me, is when i read some comments of people who say that she decided to go to a war, because she wanted the right to self determination for the islanders to be respected, although some people don't accept it, all the facts i described in my comment 41, show the contrary, beside, even the junta was disposed to accept the proposal of the three flags, or to share the soveregnty with the u. k.
I really think it would be honest to recognize that a negotiated solution wasn't going to be good for her in electoral terms, that's why she decided to go to a war, because only a militar victory would save such misserable and reactionary government, and that's the reason why she ordered to sink the belgrano, which perhaps wasn't a war crime, but it was a clear signal to show that no negotiated solution was possible. Although her monetary policies diminished inflation level, they provoked a large number of unemployment. If some people don't agree on my opinion, i respect it, but i won't buy the romantic explanation of many of them.
Back to history, it's not true that out claim was permanent, in fact there were long periods where arg. didn't claim for the islands, however it would be honest to recognize that since the half of XIX century untill 1950, arg. had a huge economic dependence with the u. k., in fact, the empire handled most our economy, then we were not in conditions for claiming, but even despite that fact, the u. k. tried to find a negotiated solution with arg. in 1968, 1974 and 1980. Beside, arg. suggested taking the case to an arbitration in 1884 and 1888, and the u. k. rejected it, britain only made a unilateral presentation in 1947, but just for the georgias. All these facts show that the case has strong and weak aspects for both countries, and it would honest to recognize it.
Axel, we caused the war. What's the point about a humanitarian mission for? It's like calling the bank and telling them Look, I have to feed my kids so I won't pay you and expect them to send you meals.
A little correction to (191)...
Argentina did not CAUSE the war..
But, Argentina did certainly START the war...
The CAUSE of said war was the continuous occupation of the Malvinas Islands by a Northern Hemisphere Colonial Power...
No more, no less...
Wonder what your line will be when Paraguay rolls you out of Missiones, Chaco, and Formosa.... ;)
Ok then, we STARTED the war. What CAUSED the war was Galtieri's addiction to scotch.
AFAIK, Galtieri was not yet born in 1833...
I'm talking 1982.
Negotiations look rosy to Argentina
You had nothing, you hope to gain something.
The Islanders however, stand to LOSE their self - determination, their culture, their land, their homes and their livelihoods.
The CAUSE of the 1982 war STARTED in 1833 with the Brutish Empire military occupation of the Malvinas Islands...
Galtieri's Uisge Beatha ingestion is just an anecdote of relative interest...
Stink.......why don't you explain the position of how the Falkland are Argentina considering they have been lived in by the current people longer than Argentina have been a country? You failed miserably using your military......why not take it to ICJ? You will have the Falkland when PR is the 51st state. Don't hold your breath......correction.......hold your breath waiting.
Argentineans have lot of horrible traits but some of the most bothersome are selective memory and the belief that they've never done anything wrong which allows them to play the eternal victim.
Like the eternal teenagers that they are...never taking responsibility for their misdeeds.
Argentina has never had ANY rights in the Falkland lslands, nor do they have now.
lf you really believe your country's lies, then present your evidence to the ICJ or just shut up.
Apart from that……
Please just go away, you tiresome creature.
Thank you for your poor attempt to compartmentalise me but you overlooked one very important thing.
Given you are much older than I, if we are to believe the claptrap you write, and I go on to fulfil my statistically determined year of my death, YOU will be long dead.
What a pity I won't be able to piss on your grave you alcohol sodden idiota.
Talking Abt think or the plumb.
Nice to know what this Argentinian impostor anti brit hating Anglo thinks of his betters.
He knows nothing so uses insults to cover his inadequacies and immaturity to hide the obvious onset of Alzheimer’s, poor fellow,
If he knew what ANGLO represented he would surely know, if he ever did, that he is an Anglo as well,
Being the poor offspring of the Spanish, even more so…
Even his oddity with turnips shows what a plumb he really is.
Thinking abt it, are we really bothered what he thinks,
Something in 1833 CAUSED Argentina to START a war in 1982!
OMG, Argentinean education at its finest.
Axel, Thatcher's decision to retake the Islands by force wasn't a political calculation at all. It was, at it's heart, a simple acknowledgement that the most important requirement for taking a country seriously is...you take care of your own. It was a battle between national pride and nationalism.
Classical Argentine revissionism at its best:
a war they started, and a war they caused to occur, based on fake history and used for nothing other than political purposes, is now to be blamed on somebody else for yet more political purposes and self-gratification.
I being to understand that many of the Argentines who visit this site are so indoctrinated with their governments historical re-writes that it has become endemic in the entire population.
They simply cannot any longer tell reality from their own myth any more.
190 axel arg
you are as brainwashed as Mr dopey at @198
you need to be re-educated.
Firstly, your idea around how Britain should have acted in 1982 is laughable. There is not a single iota of blame to be passed on to Britain, not an iota. It was 100% the fault of Argentina, and YOU in trying to deflect some blame and not taking responsibility, now SHARE that fault. The blood of the 1000 dead is on YOUR hands...and you are trampling on their corpses with YOUR attempts to blame others. SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE DEAD and take responsibility you foul excuse for a human.
Now succession of states....WRONG
Agentina is not the successor state to the Viceroyalty or the UP.
Firstly there is no acceptance in international law of successor states and secondly as you point out there are multiple successor states of the Viceroyalty...Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina, Bolivia...and indeed the Falklands.
The people of Argentina (not today's Argentina of course, this was before your genocidal stroll through Patagonia) chose to be Argentine, the people of Uruguay chose to be Uruguayan, ditto Bolivia, ditto Paraguay....the people of the Falklands for the most part chose to return to Spain or become Uruguayan in Uruguay....NOT ARGENTINE...none of them.
So where you correctly state that some areas of the Viceroyaly chose to split...as did the Falklands. Had the Spanish garrison remained, and these people chose to be Argentine, you point would be valid....they didn't..they chose to leave...
So as of 1811 the islands were empty. Your own President destroys the myth of Vernet being an Argentine governor by celebrating the murder of his deputy.
So that leaves the crew of the Sarandi.
Arrived in 1832, 50 of them, mutineed, murdered their Captain in front of his wife, then raped her in front of their children.
They were indeed evicted in 1833..6 weeks after arrival.
This has been explained to you many times Axel...but your pathetic grasping nature fails to see it.
They just hate being wrong,
and will never admit to being wrong……
lts a Latin thing……
Argentina is just using the Falkland's as a distraction for her own failures,
and using her brainwashed bloggers to defend what they never owned administered or ever run.
perhaps when CFK goes and is replaced by the Chinese ,
thing may well get better,
Argentina is just using the Falkland's as a distraction for her own failures,
Why should the 21st Century be any different?
I'm an ex Argentine Army Officer why would Think like me ?
212 Artillero 601
You tell me.
Who knows who any of you are.
Who knows who any of you are True ! Same goes to you though ;-)
(214) Don't you worry, Pomi...
You know, I know who and where you are...
And.., the farther away you are from the 601..., the more I like you ;-)
Think, there 2 pictures that you SHOULD have on your night stand :
1. Luciano Benjamin M
2. Guillermo Suarez Mason
You can't GO ON without those 2 !!!! :-)
Ohhhh yes, I can...
( El que chucklea al último chucklea mejor...)
You got me on that one !! :-)
First pic , el tio declarando en tribunales , he took the knife ( government issue knife for paratroopers ) with him and he wanted to GO AT IT ! . You failed to mention the huge amount of soldiers that went with him . On the second pic, el huevo frito de S Mason esta al reves , what a pic !! magnificent SOB
Oh well , those times are not coming back .... unfortunately
El tío y el primo..., para ser exacto...
Mario es el de la izquierda ?
Por la cara de Menendez que tiene, diría que si...
@ 4 chronic
About the sinking of the Belgrano. Cretina: Do you wish to sink a few more?
Milord: Our President nurtures no negligible number of sins, but I daresay she is not blood-thirsty in retrospect, as you want to imagine her. Sheffield, Ardent, Antelope, Coventry, Atlantic Conveyor, Sir Galahad were enough, indeed.
and that's the reason why she ordered to sink the belgrano
The Belgrano was sunk because Sandy Woodward sent a message to HMS Conqueror to attack the Belgrano which was not within his remit. The signal was intercepted in UK and it was realised that there was a severe threat to the task force, otherwise Woodward would not have disobeyed his orders-HMS Conqueror was controlled from the UK.
Therefore to prevent the task force being attacked, the order to attack Belgrano was given.
The task force was threatened by a pincer movement from the 25th de Mayo to the North and the Belgrano to the South.
On 23rd April 1982, the Junta were warned that any Argentine forces, anywhere, deemed to threaten the British task force would be liable to attack, a warning Galteiri treated as a joke. That warning was issued a week before Belgrano was attacked, enough time for the Belgrano to get to port.
If Thatcher was desperate to propagate a war without trying diplomacy perhaps you can explain why in April, permission was denied to Woodward to shoot down Argentine Boeing 707 reconnaissance aircraft, shadowing the British fleet.
Also, in April a British submarine established contact with the 25th de Mayo and requested permission to sink the carrier.
Thatcher refused that permission.
Britain was within it's rights to bomb any Argentine airfield from which aircraft were attacking the British forces, but the war was limited to the islands, by Thatcher.
The fact is, the sinking of the Belgrano was the responsibility of the Argentine military who ordered the ship to be close enough to the task force to cause concern.
The Belgrano would not have been attacked had it stayed well away from the Brits, so the responsibility for the dead sailors lies with Galteiri/Anaya, not with Thatcher.
The Belgrano incident has been explained time and time again from records and statements of the people involved. Even by Hector Bonzo, the Captain who said
. I think we posed a real threat... we never had any intention of going back to shore; we were only waiting for the right moment to act.
However you still prefer YOUR made up account of the events because your whole case depends on this.
Would you care to comment on the attack by an Argentine air force C-130 on an unarmed non British tanker off the coast of Brazil in international waters ?
This happened before the task force was near the Falklands and when peace negotiations were taking place . Also Argentine special forces were planning to attack RN ships in Gibraltar AGAIN while negotiations were taking place.
Did this show good faith on the Argentine side and a desire for a
You have a selective memory when it comes to the Belgrano because you attribute the cowardly actions and dealings of your government to a higher plain than ours. This accounts for your twisting of the facts to suit the scenario that makes the war totally the fault of the UK...not the aggresor Argentina.
So now you lot have been told,
you can now change the subject to suit your false requirements,
you know nothing abt nothing,
that's why some of you try to highjack these blogs with foreign crap.
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