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Argentina's current account deficit widened to 5.07bn in 2014
Argentina’s current account deficit widened 7.9% to 5.07 billion dollars in 2014 as Latin America’s third-biggest economy eked out meager 0.5% growth, official data showed. Exports fell 11.9% from 2013 to 71.94bn, hurt by low international prices for Argentine soy, wheat and corn as well as weakened demand in key trading partner Brazil, where economic growth is also stagnant. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThat's the WON DECADE?
Mar 21st, 2015 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lying about growth during a recession and exporting hardly anything!
Uh, what happened? I thought he was an economic genius?
Mar 21st, 2015 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsamu9towd.gif
Soy is down 19% yoy and they're not exporting any cars because they can't import the parts because Soy is down 19%.
Mar 21st, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh what a glorious mess this idiot child has created.
When the next gov't takes over and allows the IMF to audit this “Won Decade” is going to turn into the beginning of the “Lost Generation” or two.
Silly Marxists lie cheat steal and the unwashed masses starve all to due corruption and stupidity.
I pity the next Prez. He is getting set up to fail. 2016 will be even more fun to watch than 2015.
Never mind, there's always next year.....and the year after that.....and the year after that as well.
Mar 21st, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0We now know why the Falklands are such an important distraction, the only thing they have left is their pride.
Mar 21st, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is anyone other than me suspicious of the convenient U$D 5.07 Bn?
Mar 21st, 2015 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given the total outflow of “income” was 11.40bn in 2014 and in 2013 was 4.7bn (an increase of 143%) the situation looks dire to say the least.
”“I’ve found that you can’t use Indec’s growth or inflation data if you want to do any kind of serious analysis.”
And that's the problem: even these dire numbers are bound to be worse in reality.
No surprises here then, basically they are broke, but WE knew that, didn't we?
“The economy is not creating jobs, it’s not increasing productivity...”
Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to create jobs means to install enterprises. but enterprises are the biggest enemies of the communistic kirchnerin because they earn money and the bosses are all against her and her robberment. and they keep their staff as slaves and don´t pay any salary. savvy?
6. The number is clearly false, the deficit is much much worse than they are reporting.
Mar 21st, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think a lot of people are going to be very shocked at how bad the State is left when the Ks leave.
can you imagine the poor guy that takes over this house of cards? It is so broken, such a mess even if the next guy is honest diligent, he has such a hole to dig out of its insane. The midget and the witch of course will say everything was fine when the left, and the Stinks, Enrique, etc.. will believe them.
Mar 21st, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8. Clearly a good idea would be for the Ks, as you call them, proceeded direct from 'office' to prison. To sit and wait as every aspect of 'government' is investigated and exposed. And then the trials!
Mar 21st, 2015 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After 12 years of Narco Kirchnerism, Argentina is no longer the third largest economy of Latin America
Mar 21st, 2015 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So in future when argentine officials state publicly that Argentina is doing great , and growing rich and more wealthy by the day,
Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we can now take it they are lying,
nothing new then...lol
“Argentina’s current account deficit widened 7.9% to 5.07 billion dollars in 2014 as Latin America’s third-biggest economy eked out meager 0.5% growth”
Mar 21st, 2015 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had it only been so good! These numbers are from INDEC; reality is worse - at least 1.5% recession in 2014.
The worrying thing is, no-one really knows the true state of the Argentine economy.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0People always fear the unknown.
Why invest, if you can't calculate the risk?
Risk-adverse, or willing to gamble, if you don't know which 'cards are in the deck', why play the game?
How to play Poker, when some crazy jumped-up pet 'economist', (yes, you Axel!), starts introducing Tarot Cards into the deck?
Or maybe worry that you pay your money, the cards are dealt, but then the game is changed?
The rules you signed-up for don't count anymore?
(Still looking at you, Axel!)
Maybe the Bond-Holders should take it upon themselves to change the rules to support them? Arbitrately change their rates of expected income by plus 70% on the dollar?
Maybe they should 'restructure' the debt?
“Oh, my situation has changed!! Now I want extra in the Bond repayment!”
Sorry about the contract, I want more now!”
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My opinion,
Argentina is 'suiciding' itself. Again.
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0But Argentina is not Venezuela... The Ks will go, and certainly very interesting and promising times are coming. All this is potentially reversible… Unlike the Caliphate that is to become of Britain… that is irreversible, that is suicide.
@15
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0re: Argentina, yes, I agree, “certainly very interesting and promising times are coming. All this is potentially reversible”
All potential suicides are reversible. Apart from Argentine Govt. sponsered ones, of course.
The other comment? You couldn't resist, could you?
Fortunately I am made of sterner stuff, and do not rise to such cheap, goading asides.
If you want a distraction to the topic, book a flight to see your mates in Syria. If Aerolinas Argentinas can get that far...
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ohh that did touch a nerve, I can tell, short swift punch to the chin.
Its a matter of fact.
Argentina can reverse the downhill decline after the next crisis.
You can’t reverse your neither demographic trends nor arithmetic by any standards nor prevent history from repeating itself.
You should not spit to the sky…
oh dear... I had expected better of you CD2, my fault for being an optimist I suppose...
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's have a review.
I suggested that the Global Financial Community could no-longer trust Argentina, there-fore Argentina was on the path to self-destruction, (albeit with a rather 'cheap' reference to the sad death of Alberto Nisman).
I also satirised and critiqued your Economics Minister, as I do both the UK and VNZLA Economic Ministers elsewhere.
I also AGREED with you that the economic situation in ARG is potententially reversible. It is possible.
However, and you know, I think it will take generations in Vnzla to change.
You avoided this 'opener' for dialogue, but focused on thinking you had 'scored a hit'.
You merely missed the point, and only damaged your metaphoricial 'fist' by again, hitting walls.
You were the first to talk of your psychopathic desire/deepest fear.
This UK Caliphate nonsense. Really?
Pur-lease, you really under-estimate those you would like to be.
Read that again.
Pur-lease, you really under-estimate those you would like to be.
You always mistake the Personal for the Political.
Similiar to a True K Argentine. Just like Cristina/Maburro, publishing paid for 'Letters' in the NYT rather than being respected and reported for what they actually Say.
Amy chance you wish to discuss the actual topic?
xx000
~ilsen
Yeah yeah Islamic future for the UK....
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Blah blah blah.
Still a better future than Peronism.
Which is all Argentina has to look forward to. No matter who wins the election.
@17
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, not another Cabeza Dura fear, hatred and sexual anxiety thread?
CD, Argentina has been on a long slow steady decline for 3 generations. I see nothing in the willingness of the population to change that trajectory. The majority of the population is lazy, apathetic and stupid. The majority of the population is unproductive and lacks innovation. There is no rule of law. Too much power is invested in the President.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0None of that is going to change until you teach the population they have to work to live, obey the rules and stamp out corruption.
That's not going to happen merely with the change of the name of the Prez.
You're still stuck with a HUGE popultion of uneducated slumdwellers and that's not going away anytime in our lifetimes.
The next Prez may try to get the country on the right path but until the rot is cut out of the population it will continue to infect the whole country.
Wishing isn't enough
Hopeing isn't work.
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said Argentina is not Venezuela. This is what you guys dont understand. As much as you hit peronism you don’t understand that it is peronism what ultimately prevented Kirchnerism from staying in power like Chavismo did in Vzla. Unlike Vzla or the UK, this is a country with so much geographical and structural advantages that with very few sound policy decisions you can make it grow again for decades.
And as US analyst Peter Zeihan says “they only have to elect a sensible government” Argentina is set to become with a handful of other countries the only succesful ones that can do extremely well after Breton Woods collapses.
You all talk and talk about Argentina, but very few of you actually understand it.
Macri visited twice New York last year, he has talked to JP Morgan, the Clintons, the Jewish businessmen and other investors.
My bet is that a deep devaluation is coming, crisis, massive opposition to cuts and government layoffs, hard fought pro market laws in congress, money and investments will start flowing in again to Argentina.
Soy at US$ 250 was enough to lift the country up in 2002. Its still at US$ 350.
+ proggressive reduction of tax on soybean exports and he will lift the dollar clamp.
He has said that they are leaving a mine field when he takes office, but he is willing to contest for the presidency none the less. That means to say he does know what needs to be done and is going to take his chances and he does know the money will come.
“This UK Caliphate nonsense. Really?
Pur-lease, you really under-estimate those you would like to be.”
No, I dont want to be like Hamas Niesund or Captain Silver that said that the Muslim issue will be settled with the legs of his daughters. What kind of “men” are these ??
I'll let maths and arithmatics to do the talking,
I think it is a safe assumption that this deficit is the start of a longer trend unless the new government can manage to bring Argentina back into the world. That in of itself will be some challenge with the past 15 years of brain massages and re-education.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With oil and grains in a downward spiral, there is no new source of U$ for Argentina unless China will continue to loan them money and I can't see that happening, considering China is in transition from an export and manufacturing economy to a consumption economy. This leaves much smaller growth than in the past.
Soy is dropping steadily and will probably continue to do so as and according to Agrimoney, Soy is expected to drop to it's lowest levelrs since 06/07.
The current trend in crude is also going to make drilling in the “dead cow” non-existent, or nearly so. And to all you RG cheerleaders chanting “drill baby, drill” , remember the vast majority are non-RG petro companies. Good luck with your independence in the next several years.
Import restrictions make domestic production die so there is nothing to export from manufactures. No Industry, no Agriculture and no oil means new deficits and they will continue to rise right through Indecs and Kirchners lies.
Finally a good day save for the wind DS. What a shitty first day of Spring Friday.
23. Mega devaluation will have the double effect it did in 2002.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First it liquates public spending which is peso denominated, and then it curbs imports and widens the profit margins of farmers.
The Saudis will not be able to maintain the oil at this price for more than two years. By the end of 2015 there will be a year more to go or even less. It gives time for the new administration to pass the laws and set the structure for growth from 2017.
In 2002-2003 the Chicago prices of soy were even less than US$ 150 at a point.
Argentina was already was in fast recovery.
“And to all you RG cheerleaders chanting “drill baby, drill” , remember the vast majority are non-RG petro companies. Good luck with your independence in the next several years.”
It doesn’t matter what passport the oil companies share holders have, it will matter where their money is actually working and invested. You sound like the average Rg
The auto industry and Tierra del Fuego can go to pot as much as I care, they have being relying on subsidized parts for far too long.
Yes a lot of people will suffer, but the massive imbalances in the economy need to be fixed.
CD, You can not devalue a country to prosperity in the long term. I don't think a devaluation will have the same affect it did in 2002. Remember you also were not paying any Int'l debt and didn't for quite awhile. All of the debt must come into alignment and be paid. Nobody is going to grant Argentina any more time.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think your hopin and a wishin isn't going to work.
I never said a country could do so.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The priorities are make the country work and produce again then service the debt, unlike in the 2000s, nowbody is saying we aint going to pay the debt. Save the Ks, but they are the past already.
In case you havent noticed, If Argentina elects Macri by the end of this years it would be the first time a president from a business background in more than a century. Since Yrigoyen they have always been career politicians -lawyers- and military background.
That is change.
26. I've always liked Macri, he's so rich already that he should have to steal more to get ahead :)
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus he is a businessman and knows how to prime the pump.
I just don't think there are enough right minded citizens that will help him fight the slumdwellers when they lose their free money, electricity, soccer, etc etc etc.
I hope he has the will and the mandate to do what it necessary but I don't have hope for your country. I think you've passed the tipping point already and will be more like Bolivia than the USA in a decade.
YB alluded to the real problem no matter who is President or what plans they have. The general population will need to make a huge social leap and stop thieving off each other. The general attitude is not 'thou shall not steal“ but ”thou art stupid if you get caught stealing”. A vast proportion of the population does not want to work and thinks the world (Argentine government) owes them a living. They don't want to pay into society.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the reason they shrug their shoulders at corruption is that huge theft at the top will eventually filter down to the bottom feeders. Maximo steals a million, somewhere a La Campora puppet makes a few dollars. Better than nothing. How do you fix that in a few years?
CD, you can change the President but you have to find a way to effect a change of culture in the masses. How can Macri do that?
@27
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you hate Argentine corruption you have no reason whatsoever to like Macri. Macri is just another run-of-the-mill, populist Peronista with tons of baggage. Nothing will change under him. He might, however, be the least bad option right now. The good news is that anything will be a upgrade from the K regime.
27.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The peronist culture and system can only work when there is $$ to give away and buy the will of the populist. Subsidies to electricity, transport, gas tubes and fuel will be abolished because there is no money left.
The Ks have left the country in a position where the next government can only work and function under a massive structural change and deficit reduction.
There are no money nor cash sources to exploit. AFJPs, BCRA, Foreign debt, bonds markets, taxes (we are passed Laffer’s curve since 2010)
People have to eat at the end of the day. If you don’t feed them, they will be forced to feed themselves.
Things that people say about Peronism were not even dared to be spoken 5 or 6 years ago. Things are changing underneath the surface
@30 I hope so but I cannot see a cultural shift happening soon. I can see crime increasing to 'feed themselves' but suddenly being prepared to work hard is highly unlikely.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CabezaDura2
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you do over estimate CFK,
your anti ranting's shows you up,
Argentina , rather than being nice and civilised, could in fact be the biggest danger to south American peace,
you have no idea what will happen when she goes,
and if Argentina collapses inwards, she may well collapse,
you will just have to wait and see,
but even with a new government, this will still not get you the Falkland's , or solve your internal problems.
How long has the K's been in power? It takes yrs to destroy a country, and even longer to build it back up. I think who ever win's is being handed a huge mess when all the lies,corruption, problems come to light. It will be a step in the right direction, but my guess will be the population will turn on the next guy if he does what CD says and cuts programs.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy, you made it thru winter (almost)! Congrads, nice to see some sun finally.
Veneztina,
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0South Americas newest nation,
when two become one..
32.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG you have no clue of what we or Im talking about... reading you is painfull to my eyes..
When you are that stupid I have to wonder if your mother bought you on a discount or two for the price of one...
Go and read some Telegraph article of the RN and get lost
33.
One of your best intelligence analyst opinion of Argentina 58:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7h5JoxutSM
In two years Argentina [ with a sane gov't, notice he doesnt say non corrupt, just sane govt], can be in the top ten list for half a dozen commodities
OMG you have no clue of what we or Im talking about
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you got it in one.
still,
only you know what will happen, as only you are the expert bla bla.
#15 Cabesa D
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no reason why the UK should not be declared as part of a Eurasian caliphate. After all, it's a globalised world now.
However ...
http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/isis-perspective.aspx
'The new self-proclaimed Isis caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, ‘Caliph Ibrahim’, could well find himself challenged not only by Shi`as in Iraq and Iran but also by other extremist Sunnis rising up to dispute his credentials. Far from being a symbol of unity in the Islamic world, he could intensify dissension and provoke further bitter fighting.'
There is no natural law that makes any type of Islam top dog.
There is no natural law that makes any type of Christianity top dog.
There is no natural law that makes Religion top dog.
That being so, any man (or his dog) can declare an Islamic caliphate.
'It don't mean a thing'.
At least I know what Im fucking talking about, stupid moron,
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you do over estimate CFK,
your anti ranting's shows you up,”
For over a year here bashing CFKs government and you think Im suporting her...
Fuck you are stupid, Briton VERY stupid Briton
CabezaDura2
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you know nothing,
if you did, you would be the next president,
you are all talk,
you insult as a means to distract the fact that you know nothing,
As for being stupid, it takes a stupid person to know one,
as experts like you know all to well.
so carry on expert, carry on...
Why should I be the next president?? What has that has that got to do with anything??
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are too stupid, you dont know what we are talking about. Just piss off .
You are too stupid, you dont know what we are talking about. Just piss off
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you said it , you dealt it , now you use it,.lolol pppiiisss
change the subject ,
anyway you can learn a lot by watching TV
eye was watching The Walking Dead last night
its abt some yanks and brits kicking some dead argy corpses,
you know what, eye never thought some of you argies looked so bloody ugly,
and as for your teeth,, no wonder you insult everyone, you cant do nothing else...lolol
It's interesting watching the Merval rise as well as RG stocks in the US on the feeling that Kirchner's are done. It's funny seeing Kissitoff slam Macri for doing little to the city. I think he must believe that everyone forgot the politics the Kirchnerite's played on him and the city with the Subte. Pure politics.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Either way it seems to me, IMHO, that kirchner and her clones are done. As for whether the mindset and societal decay can be changed remains to be seen, at least in the near term. It can......but not overnight.
Yea D, it was a beast of a winter. Even my friends in the Berkshires agree that we got the worst in the east. The past few years here has been the longest I've been here in years due to my previous employment, but I can't recall it like this since the 70's. The Blizzard of 76 I was in Chicago and missed it. Skiing has been great though and will be for a while....lol. Friday and yesterday sucked. Now for pothole season.
There's no way to change the psyche down to the DNA of an RG. They will turn to violance before they accept they must work to eat.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Generations of slum dwellers have lived off the govt only to be called out by said govt when they need protests and civil unrest.
I really would like to see a civilized free market Argentina but I'm not holding my breath.
I think this will go from bad to worse.
And start all over agsin. Until BA looks like LaPaz.
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Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The criminals are already in the street and in business. Unlike in the 90s, individual crime was the norm since Narco-Kirchnerism is in power organized crime rules the streets. And what im saying by this, organized crime doesnt get along with petty crime.
A lot of welafare recipients in GBA are young women that have left school and dont work, have a couple of kids.
Not the kind of person who is qualified nor will be picking a gun and off to the streets.
They will just be hookers and beggars.
Does anyone have a sneaking creepy feeling raising the hairs on the back of the neck, like maybe there is a cabal of neo Nazis, grand children of the third reich, friends of Peron waiting for Argentina to hit rock bottom so they can sweep to power, kill all the jews and go to war against all their neighbours.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh this is Argentina, not Germany. They will screw it up and end up shooting themselves in the balls.
Geeeeeeeee......
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forty five posts full of turnipy ignorance about all things Argentinean...!
And all this turnipy talk about a “New Government” taking over after this years elections...!
The ~350 Argie Pesos in my HMG Cuben wallet say that our next president will be Mr. Daniel Scioli from the PJ...
And he will..., with some necessary corrections..., continue the general political line of the last two administrations...
Anybody accepting my wager???
(All monies bet and lost on this wager to be donated to the National Red Cross Chapter of the respective losers)
Or are you all turnips........ AND............... chickens?
46.
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scioli loses in second round against anyone... He already lost in his crown district against De Narvaez in 2009 and Massita in 2013... Apparently the cabecitas del conurbano are not that stupid as we thought and will invent overnight anybody who can beat Kirchnerism.
Thanks, take $700 I'll take your grand daughter in a giant muffin costume made of goma espuma with nothing underneath her.
@45 RICO
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Does anyone have a sneaking creepy feeling raising the hairs on the back of the neck, like maybe there is a cabal of neo Nazis, grand children of the third reich, friends of Peron waiting for Argentina to hit rock bottom so they can sweep to power, kill all the jews and go to war against all their neighbours.”
Yes. Pretty much every time I read a post by Cabecita Dura, just with the proviso that the EekAJew! paranoia has been replaced in those circles these days by the EekAMuslim! one. They're still terrified of women though. See above.
46
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Think this is fresh from March
http://giacobbeconsultores.com/descargas/informe_nacional_marzo_2015.pdf
20% positive image of CFK and the government. the rest is all negative, 54% of the counrty wants anybody to win exept Narco Kirchnerism.
Any candidate of Narco-Kirchnerism is stuck in the 20%. Randazzo, Kunkel, even Diana Conti.
Narco-Kirchnerism is stuck where Menemism was in 2003.
@46
Mar 22nd, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WGAF who is the next President of Argentina, most importantly is the successful drilling campaign now going on in the FALKLANDS.
Whoever takes the mantle will have a devils own job balancing the books and keeping the population under control. good luck with that.
@45, 48
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPhFLwsF_Aw
:(
51. Great link Toby
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Close to 150,000 of Britain's estimated 286,000 Jews who live in and around London saw a 137% increase in anti-Semetic incidents reaching 583.
Meanwhile the second-largest Jewish center, Manchester, had a 79% rise to 309 incidents. The CST also noted anti-Semitic incidents in 89 other locations around the UK.”
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Now I want to hear Bibi say that Jews in England should move to Israel were they will be far more safer...
(up yours PC eurocowards!)
@52
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to disappoint, CD, but this kind of thing is much more up your street than mine.
But what a relief for Tobi that anti-semitism has been detected in the UK. Therefore all must be well in Argentina.
I too would like to hear Bibi declare that Jews in England should move to Israel to be safe. Immediately after that I'd like him to explain his other contention, that Jews are also in constant mortal danger in Israel.
cd2
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0'PC eurocowards'
???
Is Argentina a member of NATO?
Is Argentina standing up against Putin?
Is Argentina involved in fighting IS?
Is Argentina a global military force?
Is Argentina a global economic power?
Is Argentina a global diplomatic influence for peace and prosperity?
All of this takes courage, and self-belief.
PC? is wrong? So racism, sexism and homophobia is okay?
Please explain why, apart from the fact you rely on it to support your 1953 mindset,
I knew you would like the news of Jews native to England (since the Dark ages ??) forced out of Britain by your mates, the ragheads..
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I too would like to hear Bibi declare that Jews in England should move to Israel to be safe. Immediately after that I'd like him to explain his other contention, that Jews are also in constant mortal danger in Israel.”
Sounds like a very easy question to answer, not by Bibi, but the tens of thousands of Mälmo and French Jews that have immigrated to Israel in the last years, and keep doubling in number each year.
I mean they have a wall in between those who want to kill them, the IDF, a self declared Jewish State... And what have they have in the UK Sharia gangs?? Cowardly cops like in Rotherham ?? Apolagists, PC politicians, lawyers?? People like yourselves??
Naahhh... its not worth asking that question. Just as the French Jews, the English Jews will follow.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/jewish-immigration-to-israel-from-france-rising-after-attacks-a-1015014.html
Why would we be a member of NATO?
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why would we stand up against Putin? He's cool with us.
Why would we fight IS? They don't like YOU, not us.
You may not want this one.
Who cares?
Don't tell me you think the UK is? HAHAHAHAHAHA.
54.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Political correctness is Marxism and anti western in principle and origin
The UK is not standing up to Putin, Ukraine is.
The UK is not fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and al Sham, the Kurdish Peshmerga, Iranians and Syrian army are. The rest is just nominal symbolic air bombings.
“Is Argentina a global military force?
Is Argentina a global economic power?
Is Argentina a global diplomatic influence for peace and prosperity?”
If they elect me president for 20 years, Argentina would be those things. ;-)
“Please explain why, apart from the fact you rely on it to support your 1953 mindset,”
I don’t have a 1953 mindset. Or I dont know as I wasnt around in those days. For everything I say and believe I have always given you a thought out reason and explination why. Unlike many of the things you stand for like feminism, multiculturalism, islamification.,etc
Its about been authentic. Something many of you guys never even heard about.
Haha!
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0yep, I'll take this one, with joy!
Let's start with CD2 @ 55....
I am not 'mates' with your so-called 'rag-heads' nor with any Jews in particular. However, I do know many Jews and Muslims in London, and some in Vnzla also, there is no problem generally. Sometimes a few youths get over excited. Such is nature.
You just scour the Internet to find articles that support your misguided views. You obviosly have no experience of these places.
@56 STroll with the_TroLL ...
oh this will be fun! I will do you the unusual honour of breaking down your whole post.
“Why would we be a member of NATO?”
You, (Argentina), already is a 'Major non-NATO ally'.
Ask yourself why?
You sent ships in support of Gulf War I. Don't forget that.
“Why would we stand up against Putin? He's cool with us.”
haha! Of course he is, the rest of the world hates him, and he lends you money at high rates in order gain influence in a region he previously had no power. You are Putin's latina puta.
“Why would we fight IS? They don't like YOU, not us.”
Your ignorance is outstanding! It is the belief of IS that all 'kuffirs' /'non-believers' must convert to Islam or die. You are just so lowly on their list that you don't even know it yet.
'Who cares?'
About 741.2 million people care, which is 741 200 999 than live in your basement with you.
To return, briefly to
@57 CabezaDura2
I do not stand for “islamification”. When have I ever promoted this?
I have always agreed that it is a danger, but do not agree with your hystericial racist rants.
As for 'feminism', it has always been about equality. I am not 'anti-men', no true feminist is. You are just being foolish, by subjugating 50% of the the human race, and not allowing them to fulfill their potential, you are deliberately hindering the human race, thus it is you that is hindering men in the long-term. Consider it.
You maybe 'authentic', but that doesn't make you right.
Get back to your cave, big ol' bear, time for a re-think...
@52, @55 CD2
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Before we get too carried with British nazism, let's see what the police have to say :
LONDON, March 22 (Reuters) - British police arrested four men and two women after they tried to force their way into a synagogue in Stamford Hill in north London in the early hours of Sunday morning ....
“The incident is being treated as an anti-Semitic incident, due to remarks made by one of the group,” London's Metropolitan police said in a statement.
“At this early stage, there is no suggestion that this was a far-right or extremist attack but rather the completely unacceptable actions of a drunken group.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3006462/London-police-arrest-six-men-synagogue-attack.html#ixzz3VAOTCZmV
Or in short, it doesn't quite read like the start of a pogrom, but more like a drunken rabble of the kind you usually applaud when they're under the colours of the EDL.
It's not surprising either that you're such a fan of Bibi. He's the closest thing Israel has to an Argentine politician. He wants you to simultaneously believe that a) Jews are safe in Israel and b) Jews in Israel are in mortal danger, he's widely suspected of corruption, he got himself elected by inflaming and then pandering to the atavistic and racist urges of the electorate, he's considered a liar by virtually every world leader he's ever entered into contact with, and last but not least he's considered a threat to the security of Israel by high-ranking former members of the Israeli security establishment. It's amazing what some people will fall for.
@51 Toby
Not that this exonerates any Brits of anything, but do read on :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3006462/London-police-arrest-six-men-synagogue-attack.html#ixzz3VAOTCZmV
Thanks to gordo1 on another thread for the link. Ultimately the secret Nazi lair was not needed because the Nazis were openly welcomed by the Argentine government.
I dont care about anecdotes.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0These are the facts.
“Close to 150,000 of Britain's estimated 286,000 Jews who live in and around London saw a 137% increase in anti-Semetic incidents reaching 583.
Meanwhile the second-largest Jewish center, Manchester, had a 79% rise to 309 incidents. The CST also noted anti-Semitic incidents in 89 other locations around the UK”
Synagougues are not vandalized nor attacked in Argentina.
As for 'feminism', it has always been about equality. I am not 'anti-men', no true feminist is. You are just being foolish, by subjugating 50% of the human race, and not allowing them to fulfill their potential, you are deliberately hindering the human race, thus it is you that is hindering men in the long-term. Consider it.
Yes you say I’m subjugating 50% of human race, you say that all the time. Exactly how does that work may I ask?? How I am subjugating 50% of the human race?? Please explain not with allegorical crap, explain HOW.
What have I ever said that women should not be allowed to work, study, drive make their own decisions ??
@60
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Synagougues are not vandalized nor attacked in Argentina. ”
Is this it? Only Jewish cultural centres are blown up with 82 deaths, allegedly with the collusion of the police, the government allegedly conspires to let the main suspects off the hook, and the investigating prosecutor is murdered, allegedly on the orders of the government.
61.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are mixing apples and oranges. But your arse already too dirty
That is not a synagogue and occurred 20 years ago and was perpetrated most likely by Iranian agents. And that the government conspired to let the Iranians free and the later is simply corruption not anti-Semitism, and has to do with the geopolitical setting of Argentina after Kirchner's death.
Not the kind of anti Semitism that is widespread on the rise and prevalent like in the UK.
60. If I remember correctly the big Synagogue in Cap Federal have 24 hour Armed guards and huge fences. Not so it civilized countries.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0CD, You've clearly never been to the UK. You don't seem to know much about it.
In my experience Argentinians are one of the most outwardly and openly prejudiced places that I have ever been. It's quite shocking to someone from the USA or any other civilied country.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4639299,00.html
Argentines accused of assault, robbery, after they entered Patagonia hostel and beat tourists while shouting anti-Semitic slurs; 12 people were injured in attack.
Kinds surprised anything happened to the Rgs I bet in the end nothing will happen.
63.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not surprised as BsAs is crime infested. You confuse crime with anti-Semitism, and for the looks of it they are just drunk lefties that think that Patagonia is being robbed by the Jews. They are just conspiracy theory morons that abund everywhere.
These guys actually got charged. Most assaults like these on tourist go un reported.
But you are way off mark in thinking that this has any semblance to the thousands of Jews of Western Europe, France and Sweden that left for Israel in recent years in face of the Muslims gang attacks.
1000s leaving but there's still millions left.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the end the Muslims will lose.
They are not smart and they are disorganized. They only know violence and in the end that will be their undoing.
I've been waiting for the first Scandinavian country to start kicking them out. It will either be that or a big terrorist attack in Germany or France and they'll all be deported.
The price of oil won't recover anytime soon and the rich families and countries won't have enough money to buy silence and acquiescence in their own country and fund terrorism. In a couple years we'll see a very different Mid East.
Its just a matter of time.
The attackers are actually condemned and awaiting sentance by the judge.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.elpatagonico.net/nota/274050/
http://www.elpatagonico.net/nota/274050/
The israeli backpackers generally go abroad after 3 years of military service, they go down to Patagonia and for these Chuw butt Patagonian lefties its easy “Think” that 1+1= 5 and assume there is a Zionist plan to take Patagonia.
There is only half a million Jews in France, 7 k a year that moves to Israel and the number keeps doubling each year since 2012. And that is not taking into account the ones that will be leaving for US, Canada and elsewhere.
I dont trust the Europeans to do a thing about it. While they dont recognize that Islam is the root of the problem, that its not a fringe of loony extremists, its widespread and grows like a cancer and more and more they close into stupidity and political correctness they are doomed.
@59
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem quite defensive about all this. Th anti-Semitic wave sweeping Europe (including the UK), is evident on the news everyday.
So is the anti-black phobia sweeping the USA.
Not very nice places right now to live in.
And sure Netenyahu is a Nazi, and Israel has veered to the far right, probably in response to the Arab world shifting to the far right.
So there you have it. Arab World going extremism times X (IS), Europe back to its good old days of Sig Heil all over the place, Israel now a far-right ethno-racial fanatical theocracy, and the USA with its racial war heating up. Lets not forget the Asian countries that don't allow any immigration and are severely racist against non-Asians.
Argentina is indeed a paradise, and the least racist people on Earth.
@59,@66
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's an interesting piece on anti-semitism in the UK, by one of the rare victims of it.
” I have always assumed that Britain in the late 20th and early 21st century is, along with contemporary North America, among the safest ever places for Jews to live (and, for unfortunate reasons, safer by far than Israel).
I checked—and in fact the statistics on anti-Semitic attitudes and crime support that assumption. A recent study of anti-Semitic views by the Anti-Defamation League, an American watchdog, found that, of 102 countries surveyed, Britain was among the six least anti-Semitic, and marginally less so than the United States.
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Within Britain, the data on anti-Semitic attacks also turn out to be quietly encouraging, albeit with the proviso that much hate crime goes unreported. The Community Security Trust (CST), which monitors anti-Semitic incidents in Britain, counted fewer of them in 2013 than in any year since 2005. “
http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/2014/06/anti-semitism-britain
Here's the Times of Israel on the most and least anti-semitic countries : http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/2014/06/anti-semitism-britain
and here is Holocaust scholar David Cesarani on the current wave of anti-Semitism :
”The current hysteria about the 'rise of anti-semitism' and the flight of Jews from Europe is deeply regrettable. There is no 'wave' of anti-semitism .... First of all, there are no mass movements or significant political parties in Europe that have anti-semitism as an official ideology. Far right parties tend to be anti-Muslim and proclaim their amity with Israel. Rather than being anti-Jewish they are often stridently philosemitic.”
http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/2014/06/anti-semitism-britain
Far right EekAMuslim! philosemites in particular might like to note the ethnicity of the culprits in the Stamford Hill incident.
67
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In all my time in the UK I have never met anyone that even discusses Jews...it's not an issue in the UK, as far as my experience is concerned it is virtually non-existent...
#69[67]
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, so true. It's a total non-issue in the UK.
Geeeeeeee2....
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twenty four more comments posted since my number (46) on this thread about Argentinean Economic Policies...
No Man, Turnip nor Chicken dared to accept my wager about Mr. SCIOLI getting elected Argentiean President this October, insuring the continuity of the present Economic Policies...
Lots of chit -chat about Jews & Muslims though...
By some of the same folks that usually accuse me of “Deflecting” or being “Out of Topic”...
Chuckle, chuckle...
@71 I think most of us were laughing at the paltry 350 Argentine pesos. Not very confident are you.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT, what news are you referring to that reports anti-Semitism “every day”?
71.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering you already imagined Kicillof candidate of Narco-Kirchnerism 2015 half a year ago, one must wonder what other options must have run in your minds before landing in Scioli.
THINK
EVEN CFK HAS SAID THAT THE NEXT GOVERNMENT IS NOT K
EVEN ZANNINI ADMITS THEY WANT TO LEAVE NOW BETTER TO REMAIN IN POWER.
http://www.lapoliticaonline.com/nota/86516-zannini-sugirio-en-la-reunion-del-pj-que-el-gobierno-juega-a-perder-la-eleccion/
Forget it Narco-Kirchnerism is HISTORY, and Nisman's death will go down in records as the final nail in the coffin of the most corrupt and destructive regime in Argentine history
And that is “IF” Scioli decides to run a losing race in the first place at all
The unnamed defectors claim that among other means to manipulate Argentina in favor of Iran, Venezuela arranged direct cash transfers. In August 2007, when Argentine customs officials discovered a suitcase containing an undeclared $800,000 in a plane from Venezuela, most observers chalked it up to Chávez’s efforts to spread his influence around the region. But one of the defectors told Veja that the loot was a gift from Iran for Mrs. Kirchner’s presidential campaign.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The claim in the Veja story that the cash originated in Iran and that a twice monthly Caracas-Damascus-Tehran flight between 2007 and 2010 facilitated its transfer to Venezuela is interesting. Veja notes that Venezuela’s then-foreign minister Tareck Zaidan El Aissami Maddah, now the governor of Aragua and a bigwig in the United Socialist Party of Venezuela, played a key role in running those flights.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/mary-anastasia-ogrady-iran-and-argentina-the-defectors-tale-1427065218
Hopefully the filthy witch will be in a USA jail soon.
In a world's sluggish economy, Argentina has exported less, imported less and grown less. The vulture saga has impacted access to low rates for borrowing.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does it mean?
It means the current international situation does not allow for the exceptional growth that took place during most of Nestor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández presidencies. That's about it.
In any event, according to most international media in the last few years, Argentina has been on the brink of collapse for many years now. The above article subscribes to these pessimistic views that have been proven wrong in the past.
Of course, the Kirchners have caused much displeasure by following unorthodox recipes opposed to received economic wisdom.
Let's see:
In the 1990s, when Argentina was the world's dear under selling-all Carlos Menem and importing goods became a national sport, 38 large companies--and over 28,000 medium-size and small companies went belly up.
The party ended up in the default of 2001 with 25 per cent unemployment, 50 per cent poverty, and a foreign debt worth 166 per cent of annual GDP.
(Unemployment is now 6.9 per cent).
In the last decade, liberation of previously frozen wages and income transfers to low-income families narrowed the gap between upper and lower-income earners, but that wasn't all.
With state support, over 180,000 medium-size and small companies were created from 2003 to 2013.
The foreign debt is under control.
Of course, many sectors need more work. However, Argentina's domestic sector is much stronger now and will allow the country to withstand the ups and downs of the international economy in a much better position than it was 14 years ago.
“the current international situation...” that in which landlocked countries adjacent to Argentina like Bolivia and Paraguay grew 5 and 4% last year?? Peru 3,3%, Ecuador 4%, Chile 2% ?? Colombia 5%??
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You dont know of what you are talking about old fool. Keep it shut.
Well at least the UK published crime statistics.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So they can be used gleefully by Argentinean educated people on here.
That will never question why their own government isnt so willing to publish the same sort of statistics in a timely manner, if at all.
57 CabezaDura2
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do talk rubbish don’t you?
And yet you accuse others of not knowing abt Argentina,
The UK is not standing up to Putin, Ukraine is.
[yes we are, in fact we the only European power that is demanding ever more sanctions against Russia,
The UK is not fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and al Sham, the Kurdish Peshmerga, Iranians and Syrian army are. The rest is just nominal symbolic air bombings.
[Total crap, the UK is the 2nd biggest western contributor fighting isis from the air, besides the yanks,
As for Syria its not only the UK its all western powers that will not put boots on the ground,
“Is Argentina a global military force?
[ no Argentina is not even a regional force ]
Is Argentina a global economic power?
[ argentina is not ]
Is Argentina a global diplomatic influence for peace and prosperity?”
[ no she is not ]
If they elect me president for 20 years, Argentina would be those things. ;-)
If you got elected for 20 years,
Argentina would have the biggest military the world has ever seen, an empire to rival the best, a rich and very wealthy power,
Million would be lining up to get in,
Crimes would be none existent,
And just like you’re former presidents, you like in a dream world,
But hey, you sure can tell em ,
Ha ha .
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Well, I see that the stale claque of EUian, Britto, NorthAmoan, and Ozzer anti-argies are finally in full form. Now we can finally get on with round 4, 2015. It was starting to get late here and it's now only barely 8 months till my next vacation.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina’s long farewell
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long-suffering voters are looking to next year’s election for relief
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21633939-long-suffering-voters-are-looking-next-years-election-relief-cristinas-long-farewell
The underlying grievances are as sharp as ever. The vice-president, Amado Boudou, has been indicted twice this year, once for corruption and once for fraud, but continues in office. Argentina’s economy is suffering
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78.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever, its just nominal stuff. Cameron must seem like he is doing something to the public, without actually doing anything about it, in both cases.
Not even the US is involved in the war against ISIS, if it was ISIS would be history by today and the US would have deployed ground troops in Northern Iraq and another occupation would have begun.
@81
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And every time the US occupies Arab soil it turns out wonderfully doesn't it?
CD
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0war in the middle east-some say-
has been going on for hundreds of years,
right or wrong its probably something that the west may or may not have inflamed, but it would take more than just military to solve it,
military might can do only so much,
hatred or different peoples in the same town/city will never be truly settled,
perhaps the wests response is seen as very weak, and thus some take advantage of this,
but to be fair here, ISIS is probably an ideology that breeds totalize of a control of others by force, and the blatant execution and wanting slaughter must be stopped before it spreads totally and utterly out of control,
what can we do, that we aint doing already,
now that is the billion dollar question,
as for you being president--that was tongue in cheek.
Better to disrupt thier economy and lifestyles with cheap oil. That's all they have. They don't produce anything else.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some say oil could got to $15...who knows with the mighty U$ climbing.
Remember I told you all this would happen years and years ago.
Perhaps cutting of the hand that is feeding them,
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only problem with that one is that the west, was until not to long ago, was that hand..
today, Iran or China Russia or Pakistan,
or someone else..?
@84
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what exactly do you produce that one can't get anywhere else?
Thought so.
Your worthless currency is teasing you now as the prelude to a horrible collapse, I hope your children have a food bank.
Anglo Turnipette at (72)
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blahhh... blahhh... blahhh...
Are you accepting the wager or not?
Argie Turnip at (73)
Blahhh... blahhh... blahhh...
Rest assure though that my boy Kicillof will be a candidate..., just not in 2015.
Anyhow... Are you accepting the wager or not?
87.
Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just donate $ 350 to the Red Cross in Comodoro Rivadavia when Macri is president. I have got like 6 places to donate to. You are a very charitable man you don’t need to do a bet that you will lose to let me know.
Please everyone, give Think a standing ovation and a clap. He is a good man.
wow! this thread has certainly 'developed' since I last visited!
Mar 24th, 2015 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol!
I do note that whereas many UK/European/USA posters have personal experience of LatAm, very few South Am posters can profess the equivalent.......
Interesting...
#87 Think
Mar 24th, 2015 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely. I predict a brilliant future for this young figure. I enjoy how he gets the media and the peanut gallery talking about his lack of stature and tie.
He does not need to run this year. Just watch him later.
@90
Mar 24th, 2015 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axel Kiciloff is exactly the kind of political creature that can take a country from bad to catastrophe. His ignorance of governance, his hard core ideological stance and his self-righteous and childish “me against the world” attitude is nothing new in the annals of political leadership, so the outcome is rather easy to predict.
If one study the Soviet Union for instance, creatures akin to Kiciloff crowds the pages. Since these guys are driven by vengeance and personal ambition rather than patriotism, the end result tends to be a divided country followed by a big blow back or, if they decide to stay in power, a full-on dictatorship like we see in Venezuela right now.
Kiciloff is experimenting with Argentina and he is destined to fail and misearably so. The price of his “phd-gone-wild” project, with Argentina as laboratorium, will be 10-30 years of stunted growth. Only fools with no knowledge of recent history can support such a clown.
91. Spot on Jonaz.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The citizens of Argentina and Brazil are two of the highest taxed people in the world.
Kidiots, look out your window and tell me if your getting what you pay for?
Do you have lights today?
Is your A/C on?
Silly fools have no idea how much damage has done by these Marxist Monkeys.
91 i would say that is accurate except he has already failed miserably...
Mar 24th, 2015 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kicillof's hopes for the nomination for Narco-Kirchnerism in 2015 vaporized after the Argentine bank's last minute deal to purchase the NML sentence failed to materialize and Argentine went into default.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even before Kicillof, Think liked socialist “Justin” Binner.
I can't wait for these Ks to go away and hopefully to jail. The next poor Ambassador to the USA is going to have to fumigate and exterminate the Embassy. I don't think any of the filthy Marxists that work there have showered since they've been to the USA.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really disgusting bunch of scumbags.
(91) Jonaz_BsAs
Mar 24th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a dogmatic philippic totally void of any useful content...
Anyhow... Are you accepting the wager or are 350 pesos too much for you?
(94) Caradura2
Are you accepting the wager or are 350 pesos too much for you too?
ok - 350 Macri
Mar 24th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(97) Jonaz_ BsAs
Mar 24th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Macri ???????????
Well............. those must be the easiest 350 pesos the Red Cross ever made...
I'll revert to you after the October elections just to make sure you keep your word...( and to taunt you a bit... ;-)
98. What happens if Scioli doesn't preset himself..??. You still have to donate $700 as you will lose to both of us.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YB:
Mar 24th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please let us know the sort of Marxist ideology followed by the Spanish and Greek governments in recent years, so that we can stay away from such disasters.
Reekie I've never said Greece or Spain was Marxist. I think they're just lazy.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What i said was the Arg Embassy in the USA is filled with people who look like they've not washed themselves in a long long time.
@98, 99
Mar 24th, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very interesting exchange. You've inspired me to donate U$ 50 to our local Red Cross. Using the government rate, 350 pesos would be just short of U$40, but I rounded up to cover any fluctuations. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I would be betting with CD2 in hopes the economy would turn around, a boon to all Argentines. On the other hand, Think's proposed candidate would ensure that Argentina will continue to be literally unable to attack her neighbors. Thus no matter how I lose, I win, so I'm covered, and may the best man win. You two should be an inspiration to us all! ;)
102. And I tell you more, if I was at the border of Argentina and when the crisis peaks at 2017 and Macri does a what he is supposed to, I would buy a good bunch of undervalued Argentine pesos.
Mar 24th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Colombia Surpasses Argentina As Latin America’s Third-Largest Economy Due To Inflation, Currency Changes, GDP Growth. Both Argentina and Venezuela on the cusp of a balance of payments crisis, we expect them to slide further down the pecking order,” forecasts emerging markets economist David Rees. “That could eventually see Chile overtake Argentina to become the region’s fourth-largest economy and Venezuela slip behind Peru.”
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0104. A little while back I was chatting with Dirk Diggler of Western Canada about this very topic. He couldn't seem to grasp that the GDP figure the Rgs report is vastly wrong, so very wrong only the very stupid or blind could believe it.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alas he just couldn't get it.
My guess is IMF will audit back a decade, GDP will be +/- 1/2 of what it is reported and the debt will be 2x what they're telling everyone.
Mess.
Perhaps Think will be losing his bet after all by default, thanks to the National Socialist government. ;)
Mar 26th, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/185304/macri-asks-federal-court-to-dismiss-phone-tapping-charges
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