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Argentine police discover 15 kilos of pure cocaine in the 'Splendour of the Seas'

Saturday, March 21st 2015 - 06:20 UTC
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Argentine customs officials seized cocaine worth more than one million dollars million from two crew members on a luxury cruise ship docked in Buenos Aires, authorities said. The suspects, both men, were identified only as a Croatian national and a Chilean traveling on an Australian passport. Read full article

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  • Frank

    Argentinian exporters once again thwarted by AFIP interference... peso falls to new lows....

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    So, they obtained the drugs in Buenos Aires !

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    so, a chilean delinquent, eh?
    not a surprise.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    So, international delinquents operating out of Buenos Aires , eh?
    not a surprise.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Somebody didn't get paid their bribes.
    Probably someone trying to compete with the NarKos masquerading as the gov't.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STroll with the_TroLL

    An EUian, and non-argie SouthAM, using Anglo documentation/institutions and a Northern foreign-fiend corporation. Typical!

    All foreign garbage.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    The argentine export industry.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @6 Tobias

    Yet the drugs were Argentine, made by Argentine scum.

    Hardly showing Argentina up to be a good place.

    And by your own amazing way of generalising with your bigoted ignorance, we can only assume that you will be accusing ALL Argentines of being drug dealing narcos.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    8 LEPelotudo.
    they are talking about cocaine here.
    and as far as the whole fucking world knows, argentina does not produce cocaine.
    here you have the list of the top 22 producers, you twat:

    Los 22 países que forman parte de la 'lista negra' son: Afganistán, Bahamas, Belice, Bolivia, Birmania, Colombia, Costa Rica, República Dominicana, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haití, Honduras, India, Jamaica, Laos, México, Nicaragua, Pakistán, Panamá, Perú y Venezuela.

    Leer mas: http://www.notimerica.com/sociedad/noticia-mayores-productores-droga-mundo-son-paises-latinoamericanos-20140919145005.html

    (c) 2015 Europa Press. Está expresamente prohibida la redistribución y la redifusión de este contenido sin su previo y expreso consentimiento.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Long a secondary shipping hub for drugs destined for Europe, international trafficking groups have recently expanded their activities within Argentina, increasing exportation and transforming it from a transit point into a destination for consumption and synthesis. Although Argentina’s drug problem is not as dire as Colombia or Mexico’s, “things have begun to change a great amount,” says Monica Cuñarro, an independent prosecutor who formerly served as executive secretary of the National Commission of Public Policies in Issues of Prevention and Control of the Illicit Traffic of Drugs.

    In 2010, the most recent year for which statistics are available, drug traffickers capitalized on the country’s poor border control, lack of aerial surveillance, more than 1,500 illegal air strips, and long stretch of Atlantic coast to export more than 70 metric tons of cocaine — mostly to Europe, which consumes about 123 metric tons every year.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/04/19/the-new-narco-state/

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/04/19/the-new-narco-state/

    Known narcos protected by the Go'vt

    Argentina is run by NarKos. CFK was elected with plane full of drug $.

    Facts.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #6 Out of Control.
    The bleating starts again. Not us--a big boy did it and ran away!

    You may not have noticed - unlikely- that the drugs were obtained in ARGENTINA, BUT IT IS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT !

    Man up !!--if possible.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Perhaps Maximmus Prattus will “take charge” of the drugs on behalf of his mother.

    She will be needing them in October to calm her down when she loses “control” of the country.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Argentina is perhaps the third largest elaborator of cocaine in the world. Unlike in Peru and Bolivia were it is produced, Argentina has a well developed chemistry and farmaceutical industry.

    I wonder if the cocaine in Northwestern Africa that is fueling the wars of AQIM, Boko Haram and other islamic terrorist groups is Bolivian or Peruvian origin, instead of Colombian and Venezuelan. That means to say that Narco-Kirchnerism is providing the ports and the shipping lanes to the Gulf of Guinea and the Maghreb for the cocaine that ends up smuggled into the European markets.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. You're out of date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_paste#Paco_in_Argentina.2C_Brazil_and_Uruguay

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brianF.I

    @9 Just shut up you moron.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @9 paulito
    Question is how come so much of it is now ending up in or going via Argentina.

    Lose control of your borders to drugs cartels, and you will very soon end up like Mexico, to add to the many other problems already in Argentina.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    16
    Just today U24 interviewed a whistleblower that was advisor to the Security Ministry sacked by Nilda Garré.

    The guy was a former guerilla in the 70s and trained abroad in counter intelligence, he traveled frequently to Peru where he contacted the left wing movement Sendero Luminoso. He seems to have maintained his contacts in Peru after many, many years later. For this reason he was able to web how former Senderista terrorist, Marcos Antonio Estrada González, he came to Argentina and formed the cartel that is centered in the 1-11-14 slum. Kind of like a Peruvian Frank Lucas. He has about 300 ex Peruvian military guarding the slum were the cocaine labs work

    Super interesting comments.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Typical Argentina,
    its always someone else's fault.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    18.
    Do you mean of Toby's and PC comments??

    Because it is Peruvian and Bolivian cocaine, and that its where it is originated from as the cartels that operate in Argentina with of course local ramifications.... moron.

    And Argentina, unlike Mexico and Colombia does have a very high consumption and drug use per capita similar to Europe or USA if you account both cocaine and Paco/pasta base.

    Keep on talking about what you know about ......ridiculous RN outfits.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    what's wrong with the outfits,

    better than what Argentina has,

    unless you know different,
    perhaps Argentina will get new uniforms when she gets new ship.s

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Its a moot point. In 100 years the Royal sailors of the United Caliphates of Grear Britanistan's will be wearing Ottoman outfits.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    so you say,

    people and experts have said lots of thing abt the royal navy from the Vikings to Hitler,

    and the royal navy is still here,

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    22
    Hey the Ottoman navy outfits will be far more colorful than the RN ones!

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW159_Wildca

    HMS Lancaster is 1st ship sail with new Lynx Wildcat embarked for an operational deployment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW159_Wildca

    Coming to the south Atlantic and they will be wearing the new uniforms,

    Perhaps you should visit the Falkland’s and get a good look at some awesome power.

    Not bad for a tiny island navy ten time smaller than Argentina..

    I have not seen the ottoman outfits, I presume you mean Turkish.
    do you have a site.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Why do you care about RN or its outfits??? A Muslim in her twenties is opening up her legs and producing her second little British Ibrahim or Ahmed as you speak. How is trillions of pounds speant on conventional defence which you will ever use going to help you ??

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Why do you care about RN or its outfits???
    because im bread an born,

    aint you proud of your navy ?

    as for Muslims that's a very silly remark to make,

    besides ISIS kills all, including argies, no one is safe,
    one day you may well bump into this poor Muslim girl,

    and become her next victim.

    Mar 21st, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @ 9 paco-cedron
    You say:
    “argentina does not produce cocaine.
    here you have the list of the top 22 producers, you twat:
    Los 22 países que forman parte de la 'lista negra' son: Afganistán, Bahamas, Belice, Bolivia,[...]”

    Paulie, the first three on the list you 'borrowed' are not cocaine producers...

    Another example of you inability to research, discuss or debate. You just grab something from the internet that YOU believe supports your argument.

    Meanwhile the whole world knows that Argentina is a major conduit for other country's producers to get their product into Europe.
    Argentine hands are dirty, and you know it.
    Stop trying to cover up or distract. Argentina is a major guilty party in the cocaine trade. You are only upset because you only recieve the garbage by-product of Paco.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Muslim women are not allowed to make babies with non Muslim men, they end up in bags if they do so... Unless they are handsome French colonial officers.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @25 CabezaDura2
    That is what was said about the W. Indians and the Irish before that.

    And little Ibrahim will grow up to be a translator for the British Army and probably marry a girl called Kasha Sobiyjzenska.

    Bit like the Ottomans in that respect, “The Turks care not one jot about where the man comes from, it’s who he is that counts”.

    Bit like Italians in S. America really, one minute they are Europeans and the next raving Bolivarian S. American Nationalists, replete with a local identity, which must completely baffle the natives.

    @28 CabezaDura2
    You really should talk to some “Black Foots” you would learn a lot about how the world really works.

    Outside the bubble that is.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    “That is what was said about the W. Indians and the Irish before that.”

    Nope... W. Indians and Irish birth rates collapsed long ago along with locals as the Sikh and Hindu ones.

    “Bit like Italians in S. America really, one minute they are Europeans and the next raving Bolivarian S. American Nationalists, replete with a local identity”

    Nope...

    Pure Italian descent are mostly middle upper urban class. Its the Spanish-criollo backgroud that is nationalistic.

    I descend from what you call black foots

    Talking about living in a bubble... bend over and pick some flowers, look busy... Ibrahim is coming.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    “Pure Italian descent” – There you go again, and you don’t even realise it.

    I suppose that would depend on exactly what you understand as the meaning of “Blackfoot”. Yours is clearly different to mine.

    So you almost certainly didn’t understand the reference as was intended, never mind back to the play pen.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Oh fuckin Yawn!

    oh my oh my!

    CD2 wants to take this thread into his pet diatribe about how Europe/UK will become a Islamist Caliphate 'within 25 years'... (hepatia style)...

    Soon, it will be 'all women are sluts etc' (ad nauseum)...

    Perhaps we could return to the topic, that Argentina is a proven conduit for cocaine supply to Europe.
    At least blame on the 'Supply/Demand Argument'.

    That is at least worth discussing.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Yes, “Pure Italian descent” you implied so yourself when you claim they were Europeans next day raving nationalists claiming to be Indians.

    What are you making such a fuss about??

    Turks abducted and indoctrinated Christian children with Islam to become janissaries and soldiers as the Egyptians did too.

    A translator is just a translator and does so because he is paid to do so not because they are “queen and country rubbish”. There is like 4 fold more Muslims in ISIS than in your army, and that was last time I checked... Good luck with that...

    You are so brainwashed with make self belief pc crap.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    umm...

    Ladies and Gentlemen of The Forum, (if, indeed, any remain!),

    Perhaps we could return to the topic, that Argentina is a proven conduit for cocaine supply to Europe.
    At least blame it on the 'Supply/Demand Argument'.

    That is at least worth discussing.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    The topic is the discovery of 15 kg of cocaine on the Cruise by the Argentine police, it is not even clear if they loaded the cocaine in Bs As or they had it previously. They might as well have the cocaine already in PdE and were selling to the wealthy passengers.... It doesnt say.

    Why with so little evidence you guys mount an attack on Argentina...?? Your country is set to become a Muslim shithole and you are a bunch of cowards defending yourselves like bees, spiders or wasps, that is with your tails....

    So Shut the F. up for once in a while losers

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @35 CD2
    oh my! You have been obviously have been infected by that 'shooting-self in foot disease' so common to others here!
    Has it overtaken Polo or Rugby as a National Sport now?
    ;-)

    ok, ref:
    @ 35 CabezaDura2
    1) cd2: “it is not even clear if they loaded the cocaine in Bs As or they had it previously”
    Article: “They were detained as they tried to board [...] with packets of cocaine taped to their bodies, ”.
    So you try to excuse this? Or say 'it wasn't us'.
    As usual. Anyone fault but yours.
    2) As you say...
    @13 CabezaDura2 “Argentina is perhaps the third largest ”elaborator“ of cocaine in the world. ”
    This does not translate well, do you mean 'refiner', packager, distributor or quite simply 'drug-dealer' ?
    However you 'elaborate' the 'narco-trafficka',
    No matter the semantics, you said @35 CabezaDura2 - “ Why with so little evidence ... ?”
    umm... I didn't, Argentina’s AFIP tax agency said in a statement.

    So, keep your victimhood to yourself, it is most unseemly to express it public m'dear, where are your manners?

    Much as I enjoy the occasional 'spat' with you, I feel duty bound to 'open you up', somewhat...

    Be Honest.
    We all know the difference between a sealed, hard-packed, rock-solid 'brick' worth thousands of Dollars, and a little bit of powder, Friday-Night, Nose-Candy' in your private cabin on a Cruise Ship.

    So.........

    @35 - “and were selling to the wealthy passengers”
    ??????????
    a bunch of retired 'baby-boomers', or, what do you say? 'jubliados de la alta-media-classe'?
    They were interested in buying a 'brick' from some random strangers?

    That they had no common language with?

    Look at yourself, look at what you have written.

    I need to say no more.

    good luck out there in the real world,

    ~ilsen
    xxxoo

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    36.
    Much blah blah blah to say nothing at all.

    “The search of the vessel found 10 additional bricks of cocaine inside a backpack with different kinds of wrapping, totaling the fifteen kilos.”

    That indicates the cocaine was already on board unless of course the drugs were loaded in BsAs from Monday to Friday. Im not saying it wasn't Im saying its not clear.

    And what MP says is the same as the Argentine media
    http://www.infobae.com/2015/03/20/1717164-descubrieron-mas-15-kilos-cocaina-ocultos-un-crucero-lujo-el-puerto-buenos-aires

    You as many else here just assumed that the cocaine was on loaded in Argentina (¿?) or choose to do so.



    “a bunch of retired 'baby-boomers', or, what do you say? 'jubliados de la alta-media-classe'?
    They were interested in buying a 'brick' from some random strangers?

    That they had no common language with?”

    Three assumptions in a row. All baseless

    Funny thing political correctness...
    Toby, paulcedron and think rejoice when bad news occurs in “Anglo land”, and at least they admit so.
    Why do you guys rejoice when bad news come from Argentina and pretend not to do so???

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    36@
    you are correct, CabezaDura2
    reverts to anti british rubbish and totally changing the subject then more silly remarks,

    he is the same as Axil , Paulie , Think , Vestige , and the rest,
    there way of the insults come out,

    still,
    even if he was correct in his assumption that the Muslims will take over Europe,

    he then forgets sooner or later Argentina will follow.

    total rubbish talking.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @37
    No, not three assumptions. Look at my punctuation. Three questions. Questioning your suggestions that the miscreants were going to sell the drugs to the passengers.

    Also some of the drugs were found on the persons of the men when they were boarding the ship.
    Therefore they were taking it onboard.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    37 CabezaDura2
    is trying to defend the impossible,
    like his idol CFK he gets his own way or the unintelligible come out.

    no wonder poor Argentina is in such a state with people like him supporting a corrupt society.

    now watch the irate man explode into an uncontrollable insulting rage....lol

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @33 CabezaDura2
    It actually has nothing do with being PC, it is simply that your view the world is completely coloured by racial stereotypes.

    Which is typical of someone who has never been anywhere in the world, or even spent any time in a different culture to their own.

    If you had, you would realise that there is good and bad almost wherever you go.

    I even discovered that lying, thieving, Indian murdering Creole (Italian or Spanish descent) conquistador, Argy Bastards, well they love their children too.

    And you would never have believed that from reading the Sun, would you?

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    39.
    10 bricks already on board, that is te only thing we know for a fact.
    Nothing else.

    41. Same boring stuff that PC Brits come up with, im tyred of walking over you guys.

    Islam is not a race, its a religion, dumarse.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @42
    OK Racial/Religious stereotyping.

    You still don’t understand what I’m talking about.

    Your only retort to the substance of what is being said is insults, and rather low grade ones at that.

    It’s ok though, without the depth of education, or breath of experience you never were going to grasp fully what is being said.

    Go on try a few more insults, just to prove the point.

    Which is, you can’t respond to the substance, because you just don’t get it.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    43. Bla bla bla.

    Your school population is 10 % Muslim already, France is like 35%. You are complete history as a culture and nation. Stop lying to yourselves.

    Of course people matter, of course the quality of people determines the wealth and success of a nation. And you have chosen the worst of the worst.
    Does that make me a racist ?? Well I GAF if you think im racist.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @44
    Thank you, right on cue.

    Quod erat demonstrandum.

    I rest my case.

    Not necessarily an overt racist, just limited in education, experience and understanding of the world.

    In short (or even shorts) A boy in a man’s world.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STroll with the_TroLL

    A bunch of cokeheads (EUians and NorthAmoans), dishing out CokEthics to Argentines.

    Classic and priceless.

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Argentine Police discover 15 kilos of pure cocaine onboard a cruise ship docked at Buenos Aires and CD2 tries to talk about the supposed islamification of Europe.

    Perhaps this is an insight into why Argentina is so fucked up.
    The complete inability to focus on its own problems and projecting neuroses onto others?

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    47.

    I'll tell you what sweetie.

    CD2 implies in two threads that by that the end of this year Argentina will elect a new sane government, the first time in more than a century that a president that is neither a lawyer nor a general comes to power, and with a few correct policies a path to growth and prosperity for many years to come for Argentina is secured starting from 2017.

    And what is ultimately implied by yours truly, is that Argentina’s decline is reversible.

    And THAT is what sent shivers on many of you,

    ”Ohhh yb please tell me and convince me this is not happening. Argentina IS on the road to become like Venezuela. It MUST BE LIKE THAT.
    It also MUST BE that Argentina is going to become a Narco State.... Sure they found 15 Kg of cocaine in BsAs, 90% of which was already on board, (but hey don’t let facts get in the way ;-) !)

    Then I have retards like Briton that say I’m Kirchnerist or anti British.... I feel sorry for him, after all it’s not his fault his mum drunk to much petrol while she was pregnant.

    And all this while Western Europe is dying of old age and being replaced by Islam at ever more alarming rates… Let me say this again because I know it hurts… Argentina economic situation is completely reversible. Islamiphication of Britain and W.Europe is not.


    This is why you are doomed . You have to many retards too.

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/01/islam-intolerance-lgbtqia-lie/

    Mar 22nd, 2015 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STroll with the_TroLL

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Attackers-yelling-we-will-kill-you-storm-synagogue-in-London-suburb-leave-worshipers-bloody-394684

    :(

    (burn baby burn)

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 48 CD
    I admire your optimism but it is going to take more than just “a few correct policies” and more than a little time to reverse the situation in Arg.

    Argentina does not HAVE to be the next Venzla, it’s not predestined, your next Pres just has to be able to walk on water to completely avoid it.

    As for the rest of your diatribe, lol, the shivers, the fear and the demons must really close in on you, in the dark of the night.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    2 years after the early crisis 2016, Argentina is growing at near double digit rates. Guaranteed.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I have never said the economic situation in Argentina is 'irreversible'. Indeed, I hope not. Actually, I have always wanted the best for Argentina, I hate the Govt. not the people.
    Just like Vnzla, I would love to see progression and prosperity there.

    I am equally consistent when I profress that you project your darkest fears onto 'Europe' as a whole.

    This is your weird 'problem', no-one else's. Do you really think that the modern, enlightened countries of Europe will merely acquiese to Islam?

    Your opinions are typically those of a 'drama-llama' excitable latino that can only live in the present.
    There are older, wiser voices in the 'West' that prefer to play the 'long-game'.
    For those populations that live in countries that have more than 200 yrs history, well, they have a deeper sense of 'Self' and are not so insecure as the Argentines. They have a greater understanding of the world and do not fear the 'Winds Of Change'. They adjust their sails accordingly, thus avoiding the rocks. Their course remains steadfast.
    Do you really believe that all that Europe has learnt after 2000 years of war and strife, and through the Enlightenment Period, (which is incidently), the whole basis of your Society and Politics, (even if you get it wrong frequently), will quietly fold and collapse due to the current rise of Islam.
    No.
    People in Europe are so much more intellectually mature than the likes of your compatriots in LatAm.

    There will be no 'islamification' of Europe.

    Please keep your teenage rants to the school-yard, where they belong.

    Stop embarrassing yourself.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    52.
    You are naive, and lying to yourself before lying to me.

    If I was British or someone from the Falkland islands, of course I would wish Argentina to fail. What you say is stupid. Argentina whent to war with Britain 30 years ago over the islands.

    Wealth and economic growth equals over time a military threat. As simple as that.

    Now I dont give a rats F about the islands, I just want my country to grow and get rid of the century decline, but I accept the first from a rational point of view. So you dont have to pretend nor be PC about it

    Regarding the later....

    ”Do you really believe that all that Europe has learnt after 2000 years of war and strife, and through the Enlightenment Period, (which is incidently), the whole basis of your Society and Politics, (even if you get it wrong frequently), will quietly fold and collapse due to the current rise of Islam“

    ”an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last”

    Its arithmetics pure and simple. In 2000 years of history, Europe never had negative birth rates and relied on immigration for economic growth... Well it did and in the collapsing days of the Western Roman Empire.

    History will repeat it self.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    CD2
    I am not your 'sweetie', and never will be. Don't be so presumptious, it shows such a lack of manners.

    You are better than that. Consider yourself admonished, you cheeky scamp!

    Meanwhile, as you have now been castigated, and I am sure you will take your punishment like a man, let us not dwell on such matters.

    Moving on, why shouldn't I have a genuine concern for Lat Am? My extended family includes people from three continents...
    I refer you to my posts on Vnzla. Whilst I maybe vitriolic about the current adminisration, you will read nothing but love for that country.

    re: “So you dont have to pretend nor be PC about it”

    I am not 'P' or 'C'. I am just 'me'.
    ;-)
    I can be a capitalist business person and still give a shit about people, it is not mutually exclusive. However, you seem to judge everyone by your own lowly standards, shame.
    'Regarding the later....'

    hmm... you rely only on 'arithmetics pure and simple'. This is where you fail, because you forget human nature. Rarely have human interactions been based on logic alone.
    Relationships, whether personal or political, intimate or international, are not soley based on 'arithmetics pure and simple'. There is a deeper sub-text in Europe that you do not yet grasp.

    If you need further enlightenment, I am happy to help with furthering your education.
    You are never too old to learn something new!

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    54.

    OK, I will not “sweetie” you any longer...Not because you are offended, but because you get to big for your boots and over yourself when you clearly like it and could be my mother.

    I will call you axelarg... as you have shown a spectacular way how to reply much with not taking into account absolutely any points at all.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    55
    “when you clearly like it and could be my mother.”
    Grandmother more like...;-)

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    That nationalist brainwashing is prevalent in Argentina. I don't hate Argentina and I wager the majority of Brits never give Argentina a second thought, let alone reserve the energy to hate them.

    The idea that a new government can effect change in the Argentine psyche in a couple of years is pure fantasy. Why have the K's been able to manipulate the masses? Because the character of the masses allowed for exploitation. That unwillingness to work is not going to disappear overnight. Does anyone really think that the masses are suddenly going to acquire consciences and not take the bride or nick a few pesos of their neighbours?

    A new government may attempt change but I suspect crime will soar before anyone puts in an eight hour day of work.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    48 CabezaDura2
    Then I have retards like Briton that say I’m Kirchnerist or anti British

    your insults show you as a child , a stupid little child, that insults others when you cant get your point over,

    if you don't like my opinion then don't read it,

    you experts who proclaim to know everything nut nothing,
    as for anti british, dam right, you are

    as for Kirchnerist,,never mentioned it,

    so grow up and stop acting like a child and throwing your toys from the pram...

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STroll with the_TroLL

    @57

    Well, certainly we won't learn what an 8-hour work day is like from you, that's for sure!

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    @Briton #40

    “CabezaDura2
    is trying to defend the impossible,
    like his idol CFK .....”

    #58

    “as for Kirchnerist,,never mentioned it”

    Silly cunt.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Pathetic insulters….like CD
    https://uk.pinterest.com/beaniekh/people-who-insult-criticize-put-you-down/

    People Who Insult,
    Rude people who put down and criticize others,
    But yet fail to see how pathetic they themselves are....

    It’s sad when one has to paint a dark picture of another in order to paint a “perfect” picture of themselves”
    So very true. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

    According to psychologists, people with an unwarranted sense of accomplishment often present as arrogant, elitist snobs, and are known to hurl insults at anyone who threatens their fragile self-esteem

    NEXT—next--
    .

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Almost everybody here insults, little fruit. And you have just lied as of #60 indicates.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    As for your last remark,

    probably rarely unseen you yourself,

    loose insults are a form of ok when stated in conversation,

    childish insults that insult the ladies are not forgotten,

    as for as for Kirchnerist,,never mentioned it”
    as repeated,

    eye said CFK not Kirchnerist,,

    as Mrs thatcher is different from being a thatch rite...??????

    meanwhile back to blog,
    Drugs and the story was.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    63....Errrrrr no

    If CFK was my idol I would certainly be a Kirchnerist. I dont understad how can your idol Cristina Kirchner and not be a Kirchnerist. And I dont understand how are you trying to put a spin on that one.

    I didn't insult you because of that mumbo jumbo physiology stuff you looked up. I insulted you because you lied in the most stupid way possible to mend up a previous stupid remark which was implying I’m a Kirchnerist after more than a year blasting Narco-Kirchnerism here.
    None of that would have happened if you had heeded my advice and kept on with the RN outfits.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    You broke that one,22 23 24 25

    irrelevant now,

    point is--
    both men, were identified only as a Croatian national and a Chilean traveling on an Australian passport,

    both should be severely punished,

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    65
    Nah ....CD suffers from Putinphilia....
    Putin's cult of masculinity, the anti-Americanism, the support for leaders like Bashar al-Assad, the oppression of minorities, gays, journalists, dissidents, independent-minded oligarchs and bare chested camera poses.....;-)

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    66.
    That is all 100% true you say...

    But my ultimate fantasy is being submited, punished and castigated and systematically raped by a dominant mature woman like ilsen for an entire week. As she is clearly into BDSM as one can tell @54

    ;-)

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    It's been quite amusing watching how both sides of the argument try to claim some sort of political edge on this thread. Some dealers got caught red-handed and hopefully will get half of what they deserve. I don't care where they came from, where they got caught or where the drugs came on board; let's just hope these guys get punished and hopefully give away their paymasters also.

    Our last bigger cruise ship for the season was in today and I have to say what a good cruise season it was. I might be wrong but I don't think a single ship got put off her planned landings in the Falklands. So much for La Campora and its band of deadbeats and all of their threats to stop our cruise ships. I think even Think told us they were going to stuff us around badly this season. Well, I don't think it happened.

    Mar 23rd, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    57 ElaineB
    Thank you for your wise, and I feel, prescient, post.
    I always look forward to your comments.

    67 CabezaDura2
    ha! in your dreams perhaps...
    However, my maid was asking if there is any extra work available... I would be happy to supply her with the correct 'equipment', if she can get some0ne to baby-sit her grandchildren...
    She mentioned something about 'water-sports', but I really can't imagine her going surfing at her age? Maybe it is something you are more familiar with, than an innocent 'sweetie' such as myself?
    Meanwhile, I am sorry to hear that your only export-market has suffered such a 'blow'.
    Better luck with avoiding the dogs next time!

    Mar 24th, 2015 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    ....but how would I know it’s the maid and not you?? Or you dress up as a maid when you do your stuff instead of the leather outfits??

    “Meanwhile, I am sorry to hear that your only export-market has suffered such a 'blow'.”

    Whatever plans you have to do under water I must warn you I’m expecting a record harvest this year...JSYK

    More volume compensates the fall in the prices..

    Mar 24th, 2015 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @53 CabezaDura2
    In the first place “kiddo” I have good friends in Arg (Argys as well), and have spent time amongst Argy Expats in the UK and Miami, and count many of them as friends.

    So whilst I strongly oppose your Gov on many issues and frankly detest your MalviNazis, Conqueror has his place in the Universe.

    I do not find it within myself to take pleasure in the suffering of so many others, even Argys who of course all deserve it.

    Second, stick to the Islamophobia, much safer, just makes you look a twat.

    There are websites for more intimate/personal, shall we say “desires”, however I would suggest this is not one of them.

    Some things best kept between you and your Priest, don’t you think?

    Mar 24th, 2015 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    71.
    Over dramatic are we??

    First of all, I should think you are old enough to understand I'm not expressing my “desires”, I'm fooling about with voice and ilsen as they do so with me. Even if this is a public site you clearly have taken your time to go through it..

    Second I never said you would take pleasure in the suffering of others. I said from a realistic geopolitical point of view it would be best for British and FIs that Argentina remains in a decline mode. As it happened to be and you haven't noticed I only got heavy backlash and denial here from simply saying that Argentina would register heavy growth as of 2017 onwards and revert a path of decline... That is in the context I said so.

    Mar 24th, 2015 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Hmmm, it didn’t quite sound like that over here. Never mind I take your word for it.

    I did bother to read what you had actually said, as one does try not to “go off half cocked” so to speak.

    What you actually said was “and with a few correct policies a path to growth and prosperity for many years to come for Argentina is secured starting from 2017.”

    “a few correct policies”.

    Like I said “I admire your optimism”.

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    73.
    I never snitch because if I had to start reporting I would never end and hardly be objective at it, but if you consider any comments, of high sexual content or inappropriate I think you should report them and let the moderators decide, otherwise I would recommend minding your own business.

    Peace

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ CD
    “this is a public site”

    “recommend minding your own business”

    Hoisted on your own petard, methinks.

    Live long and prosper.

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    So if you are in the streets, parks, trains, buses or wherever public setting, do you intentionally snoop and overhear people in when they are just fooling around flirting or whatever it is they are saying to each other, and be over judgmental and tell them what to do??

    I would be called a a*hole if I did that.

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    arsehole!

    ;-)

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    75
    You heard the lady.

    Mar 25th, 2015 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @CD
    “intentionally snoop and overhear people”.

    We are not “in the streets, parks, trains, buses or wherever public setting” are we, this is a blogging website.

    Are you for real.

    Er, you do realise this is readable the world over, don’t you?

    Exactly what expectation of privacy do you have here?

    As I suggested, perhaps your “fooling around flirting or whatever” might best be done on a more private/restricted forum.

    Might save you some embarrassment, that’s all.

    Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    79.

    And it’s amazing that amongst all millions of people in the world that can enter this site, only you would take your time to read over our comments and concern yourself with them. LOL!!!!

    This site is perhaps even more restricted than the ones you talk about or I suppose as I have never being to them. All you have is a screen name. Nothing else. It’s far more embarrassing being a snoop you know.

    Mar 26th, 2015 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Heehee!

    :-)

    Mar 26th, 2015 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    If you don’t want your comments read, why post them up here, or is that too complicated for you.

    Reading what has been written in a public domain can hardly be described as “snooping”, not by any stretch of the imagination.

    Any more than reading a newspaper could be called “snooping”.

    Repeatedly miss-representing something does not make it true or you look clever.

    Like I said “Are you for real”.

    Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    82.
    Listen moron, if I didn’t want my comments read I would not post them here...
    Now that you come along saying or implying any thing I post here overpasses any limits I will refer you to “Report abuse” button.

    That was the only valid point you had which I had recognized. Now that has being settled even by yourself you don’t have a point any longer other than being a snooping creepy arsehole, so please fuck off. I don't give a rats fuck about what you say and I'll write wherever I please. Do you understand that lunatic??

    So please stop being such an arsehole and use your time in something else.

    Mar 27th, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @83 50shadesofNobEad
    Then why post them here and then complain about people reading them, I repeat, is that too complicated for you?

    Tut tut, lose the argument and revert to type, abusive lying Argy Bastard.

    If you don’t give a rats, why do you feel the compulsive need to respond, even when getting a kicking?

    Clearly some self-confidence issues there, or just typical Argy don’t like being shown up in public.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA.

    Was there ever any point to your existence? Other than entertainment value for us.

    Mar 27th, 2015 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    84.
    And you would do nothing but describe yourself and project. Nervous overreacting laughter in the second last sentence… Priceless.

    Here is the thing Moron... Did I ever actually complain of people reading them?? No. I simply said mind your own fucking business.
    That is all there is to it and you know it.

    Keep on reading what others post if it pleases you like a snoopy gossip girl, I will right and comment whatever I please, you understand, moronic arsehole??

    Mar 27th, 2015 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @85 50shadesofNobEad
    You silly little boy. Getting caught out bruise that over inflated ego, did it?

    You could always climb up it and jump off.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!

    If telling someone to “mind your own fucking business”, simply for reading what you have put there for all the world to see, isn’t complaining, then I don’t know what is.

    Let me give you a tip (trying to be helpful here), try reading what you post before you post it.

    It might help you avoid many of the obvious contradictions in what you post, that I keep ripping the piss out of you for, soft target every time.

    As I said, I was only trying to avoid some embarrassment for you, because I’m good like that, but with you that seems to be a lost cause.

    You keep posting, I’ll keep laughing at you. The natural order of things.

    Peace and happiness.

    Mar 27th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    86.
    My dear lord your are a retard... Since when saying “Mind your own fucking business” to you, Mr. fuckwit is complaining about people reading my post??

    Its only a contradiction in the mind of a retard.

    “50shadesofNobEad” WTF is that moron??

    You are a fucking snoop, a gossyp girl, just reading what others are posting that have no consecuence or meaning to yourself. Simple.

    Mar 28th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @86 50shadesofNobEad
    I repeat:
    “Reading what has been written in a public domain can hardly be described as “snooping”, not by any stretch of the imagination.

    Any more than reading a newspaper could be called “snooping”.

    Simply not believable for you to try and pretend otherwise.

    I also repeat:
    “If telling someone to “mind your own fucking business”, simply for reading what you have put there for all the world to see, isn’t complaining, then I don’t know what is.”

    Again, simply not believable for you to try and pretend otherwise.

    50 shades of grey is a book and now a film, NobEad is slang meaning knob as in dick as in penis, Ead as in head, as in DickHead, or cabeza del pene.

    You stupid boy.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

    Mar 28th, 2015 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    88.
    More exagerated and nervous laghter is not going to change the basics.

    Only you of all the millions of millions of people in the world that can read my comments is upset about them. Comments of no consecuence nor meaning to you become so when you adress them. That is why you are a snoop and fart.

    As simple as that, and you can put a spin on that

    As embarrassed as you are m happy to keep it that way.

    Mar 28th, 2015 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 50shadesofNobEad
    In your dreams Kiddo, only in your dreams.

    BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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