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Argentina as a 'live threat' to the Falklands, triggers fury from Buenos Aires
The government of President Cristina Fernandez accused the United Kingdom of using an alleged Argentine threat to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands in order to boost its military budget, while also claiming that the archipelago has been turned into an electoral campaign issue. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment ruleswar initiated 32 years ago by a genocide dictatorship, the greatest political, social, economic and cultural tragedy of the Argentine people”.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0This lot didn't think so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqwNsmzCbM
“while also claiming that the archipelago has been turned into an electoral campaign issue.”
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well if that's true they got the idea from you. In private the Argentine government must be doing cartwheels shouting “Woohoo, they've given us another distraction”
I've often wondered if the muppets that make up the Argentine government actually EVER listen to all the crap that they spout.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was only a couple of weeks ago that some Argentine government lackey was bragging about how the new fighters that they were 'buying' from the Chinese had the range to attack Port Stanley.
Now if that can't be taken as a threat, what can?
Added to this is all the other provocations that the Argentine government has done over the last few years, including their defence minister (at the time) stating that it was only the British forces on the Falklands that prevented another Argentine invasion.
And throughout it all Argentina has embarrassed itself on the world stage by proclaiming that 4 fighters, 1 RN ship and 1,200 military personnel were the LARGEST NATO base in the world!
They have lied so much and so often that they actually forget what they've said. They make stupid statements to their own indoctrinated people, apparently forgetting that in this technological age, that means that everyone in the world can see and hear what they are saying.
And the more desperate Argentina gets the more likely the government is to do something monumentally stupid, like try to invade the Falklands. I mean that's exactly what the military Junta did, isn't it?
Although I don't believe that Argentina currently has the ability to launch an invasion of the Falklands, I wouldn't put it past them to try some stupid political stunt, that would most likely end with people dying so they can pull out their well worn 'victim' card and go screeching around the world about how the 'nasty' British are 'picking' on us.
So it makes sense to upgrade and improve the defences around all British South Atlantic territories.
Mr Timmerman, if the British wanted to station 50,000 troops, armed to the teeth, on the Falklands it would be none of Argentina's business, only the business of the Falklands Islands Government and the British Government.
Correct- cannot wait to hear the crap amd mumbojumbo from paulie-marcos and others!
Mar 25th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK is NOT spending anymore on the Falklands Military than in the past- £180million(not billions Paulie- there is a wee difference!) over 10yrs is a mere 318milllion a year - which IS the amount Uk has been spending for some years here anyway in repairs and replacements of buildings, facilities etc etc!! So it is NO CHANGE! Old helicopters withdrawn- replaced by newer ones of the size we used to have anyway. Old antiaircraft systems withdrawn by the UK forces worldwide- and replaced worldwide by a newer system- etc etc - come on Marcos and others - How can that be “militarization”??
I know your Foreign Minister is thick - but!
3 LEPRcon
Mar 25th, 2015 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I may add to your, as usual, excellent post. Not only was Argentina bragging about long range bombers that could reach Stanley, what was it they said they planned to call the new battle ships they are in discussions with China over? Malvinas Class!
Could you imagine the state Crisis Fernandez de Kirchner and her cronies would get into if the upcoming Queen Elisabeth carriers got renamed the “Buenos Aires Staging Post Class”
Personally, as an islander living here, I feel intimidated by the likelihood that that crazy bitch may try something.
lts coming, l feel it.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better to overspend on arms than to be unprepared.
l give up trying to reason with them & do not like them in anyway.
Lets have even more troops & equipment.
#5 Señor Blogs
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Although I agree with most you say, I have to differ with the term “battleships” which cannot be close to the ridiculous aquisition of the garbage that the Argentine government supposedly will purchase.
Also, I think the description of the President of the Republic of Argentina as a “crazy bitch” spot on! Don't forget her flying monkey, Timerman...
@ 3 - well said... “Personally, as an islander living here, I feel intimidated by the likelihood that that crazy bitch may try something.”
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank heavens for a robust Conservative/Liberal Govt, and that nothing is taken to chance with Argentina.
....'a war initiated 32 years ago by a genocide dictatorship, the greatest political, social, economic and cultural tragedy of the Argentine people”
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really, so why do you celebrate it all the time, if it is such a tragedy, why don't you apologise to the Falkland Islanders and admit it was wrong. That my dear Mr Timmertwat would be a good start.
Or was it only a tragedy because it failed?
Predictable swivel-eyed rants from RG government. Completely compatible with a nation that built a museum which pays homage to subjugation and prints money glorifying occupation.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Crow about rearming
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Put out money celebrating the war
Act suprised when the Uk goes no.
Rapier is a pretty good short range sam land based CAMM is a completely diffrent level of beast its the short ranged naval point defence sam put in a container for land use twice the range and speed.
”there is an invocation of a war initiated 32 years ago by a genocide dictatorship, the greatest political, social, economic and cultural tragedy of the Argentine people”. #9 my sentiments exactly. The only country I know of that celebrates a war they started, by their dictators, that they lost. It would appear that the junta did something good the way they go on about it. Everywhere you go its Malvinas this and Malvinas that.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that Timmerman thinks he has the moral authority to lecture the UK on how to spend taxpayers money whilst still accepting Aid from the EU, and therefore the UK. Further hypocracy from people who claim do despise the Junta ane the War they started, yet still celebrate it annually, print money featuring it and order all public transport to display propaganda about it.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0If they even want to start to be taken seriously and abject apology would be a good start, followed by the dimantling of the whole Malvinas Myth from the education system and the constant public propaganda foisted upon its own citizens.
Timmerman and his crew of CFK acolytes have played the Falklands issue so badly that any hope that the Argentine Government may have had ten years ago about dialogue and friendship has been shot to pieces. Trust is not built by threats and sanctions. Co-operation is not engendered by unfriendly laws and blockades. Friendship is not fostered by bombastic arrogance and harassment.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0For goodness sake Argentine people wake up, and tell these goons to respect human decency and the law, and to bu**er off to their retirement in Venezuela.
ORDER order
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I must object , order.
Argentina as a 'live threat'
this is totally not true,
as ZOMBIES are already dead.......
'Chicken or pasta', the bloated red-headed harridan who is the representative of TDC to The Court of St. James (although you wouldn't know it to look at her hugely bloated frame) parroted the usual 'ignoring legal claims to negotiate a settlement' as if anybody in the UK would be bothered.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good repost by the UK to the Russian engined Chinese 'junk' they intend (they say) they will purchase for 'defence' even though they comprise part of SA, the continent with brotherly love for everybody unless you live on the Falklands.
Given that TDC are broke and impose import restrictions on every country wanting to trade with them WTF does the rest of the continent bother: answer - they don't in reality.
TMBOA has managed to alienate everybody on the planet apart from the wacky ones such as Iran, etc. against her: that has to be some sort of record. The Blessed Margaret should have told Raygun Ronnie Reagan to piss off and bombed the shit out of Argentina and the Islanders would not be in this situation.
The way the argies are going though it will came to it, sooner or later.
Agreed.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The RG population is so indoctrinated re las malvinas over so many years that it is very likely that someone, maybe not CFK but some idiot following her, could well call the country to arms and invade. Blind fanaticism will over-ride decency, fairness and every kind of wisdom, just as it already does at every level. That the RG population accept this is a major part of their whole national tragedy.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5. Do NOT be intimidated. Think 16 Air Assault Brigade. Think 8,000 personnel. Think 12 RAF Voyagers bringing in the first 3,600. Air-refuelled C-17 Globemasters bringing in heavy equipment and some troops. Two days, three at the outside, and there would be 4,800 troops. 2nd/3rd wave see the rest. Civilian aircraft might be requisitioned. Meanwhile, a Daring class destroyer arrives to augment air defence. Astute class submarine(s) arrive to launch cruise missiles. Surely you can see that the 1200 troops, and their equipment, that you already have on the Falklands is 15 times better than what you had in 1982?
Mar 25th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8. Wouldn't rely too much on the LibDems.
@11. Good call. CAMM has three variants. (A), (L) and (S). Air, Land and Sea.
@12. First item on the agenda. After 34 years of open and clandestine warfare, it's about time that argieland abandoned that potty name. And the potty claims. Oh look, argieland and two potties!
@13. All quite accurate, but are you sure about getting the word 'moral' in the same sentence as Timerman.
Tip for honest Argentines. The word 'Malvinas' is designed as an RPG target. Get one from your friendly, local, Iranian or Hezbollah terrorist. Want to know where to find one? They may well be employed by the argie 'government'.
@16. Just one point. Ronald Reagan did actively offer the USS Iwo Jima amphibious assault ship (landing platform helicopter) in the event that either HMS Hermes or Invincible were to be damaged or destroyed. To be crewed by US military contractors. That would have been more than 660 American lives on the line.
Should never underestimate the United States with the right president. I wouldn't even rule out Obama. He may have 'history' where Britain is concerned but, on a recent meeting between the UK and US Defence Secretaries, Ashton Carter was heard to say “Thank God, you're in this with us.”
@18. Let 'em come. We have more and better. How will argies feel when their 'sons' are being washed up on their beaches?
Is the Argentinian Gov't giving budgeting and economic advice to the UK?
Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did I read that right?
Holy Crap these Kidiots are stupid.
How dare the Brits steal our idea?!?!?!
Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another lesson in cause and effect. What a payaso patetico. He needs grease paint. ;)
Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsryuikyku.gif?1427289085003&1427289085585
The current Argentinian gov is a live threat to Argentina as well.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor FI if they ever fall under its hands. Can you imagine Stanley as another feud like those in the north or around the city of Buenos Aires, with `villas´, junkies, rampage crime, corruption, etc?.
As far as I am concerned, we would be far better if our business are conducted by the FI´s gov.
the Malvinas are used as a political campaign issue in the UK ,
Mar 25th, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0by the nasty argies that have use the Falkland's as a political football for decades.
WTF..... After all of the rhetoric that these F'Wits have been spewing as of late ... I would be a little cautious myself and look to the UK for more support... The Dark Country is in a state near to that of when the alcoholic Galti'dickhead sent his forces back in 82'... I would welcome more troops and military presence at Mount Pleasant in an instant... Let the moron's try another attack... whereby with the added support the Islanders could easily defend themselves and launch a counter attack wipe out the airport at Rio Gallegos as a start El Calafate next and then work their way north .... Commodoro Rivadavia could be the next logical airport to destroy... Then the imbeciles would have to build a raft with which to send troops... Goodness me I would think that Kelpers could push as far as Bahia Blanca take that and then draw a new line and reclaim Patagonia ...
Mar 25th, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wishfull thinking...!! : )
If as Gollum says there is no plan to attack the Falklands , why on earth should they care how much is spent on defending the place or how many troops are stationed there ?
Mar 25th, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe if they hadn't allowed the Chinese to build space stations on the mainland the UK wouldn't feel the need to spy on them .
Just saying like ......
Used as a campaign issue? They hardly mention it in Parliament nowadays. Only in Argentina are the Falklands used as a campaign issue.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HO ,HO , HO .......The reality of all this is that after standing years of bullying and harassment form the Argies towards the British Falkland Islands and the peaceful people who live there , the UK government have finally decided to show some sense and beef up the protection for the Islands , now the Argies are furious .....UP YOURS !!!!.and watch out ...the British bulldog still has a big bite !!
Mar 25th, 2015 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Relax people. We are not going to risk a single human life to recover the Malvinas. At the same time, we'll keep claiming them in the same way we have done in the past--just because those islands are part of our territory.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime, check out this wonderful story about an Argentine and a British citizen who took a six-kilometre swim connecting the two islands in a bid for peace and mutual understanding.
http://10ahora.com.ar/2015/03/ahora/nacional/la-ola-que-une-un-argentino-y-una-inglesa-nadaron-en-malvinas/
@29
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“peace and mutual understanding” -
as long as the outcome is what Argentina wants !
six-kilometre swim connecting the two islands
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What two islands, please name them,
their are thousands of islands down there.
@29
Mar 25th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“... we'll keep claiming them in the same way we have done in the past--just because those islands are part of our territory.”
Wow, you really are a National Socialist, aren't you Comrade Rique? ;)
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ~ Josef Goebbels
http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperlaff_zpsryuikyku.gif
@29
Mar 25th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you any plans to ever claim them in the only body empowered to assess the validity of your claim?
Ladies and Gentlemen, is it not time to have done with it and do a Putin Shotgun referendum in BA:
Mar 25th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0with question do you want to drop your threats against the Islanders, or do you want to become part of the stratosphere?
According to the Foreign Ministry, headed by Hector Timerman, the UK is guilty of “bringing up the ghost of a supposed Argentine threat in order to increase the military budget,” a move described as “unbelievable and absolutely unjustifiable.”
Mar 25th, 2015 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was it not titman who said ( during a press conference in LONDON ) that “The malvinas will be argentine within 25 years”?
Was it not an air force colonel who commented that “If not for the garrison on the malvinas, they would be in argentine hands now”
.....and titman calls the “live threat” remark “unbelievable and absolutely unjustifiable.”
The truth hurts titman, suck it up.
@23. Well, you won't find many here disagreeing with you.
Mar 25th, 2015 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Islands will NEVER fall into argie hands. Do you think 1,200 British troops can't handle 73,100 argies for 3 days? 60 Royal Marines did okay for hours against over at least 1,000. Initially outnumbered ten to one, that increased to more than sixteen to one. Could argieland manage a landing force of more than 19,000? Track back to the Normandy landings in 1944. The Allies lost 7% casualties. That works out to around 1,350 argie casualties just to land. Will there be any beaches that aren't mined?
But what's wrong down there? Have you not considered a demonstration? One where you burst into the Casa Rosada and drag the old slag out? You could have a trial right there in the Plaza del Mayo while she's being measured for her noose and coffin. Could you cut Timerman's throat while you're at it? He uses it far too much.
@28. You have to ask yourself a question. Two Astute class submarines have been commissioned. Each carries up to 30 cruise missiles. Where are they? The South Atlantic maybe?
@29. Part of your territory, how? Here are the methods of acquiring sovereignty over territory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_sovereignty
I don't see 'inheritance'. Want to try cession? Where's your treaty? Sorry, forgot, spain didn't recognise argieland until 1858. Can't have any retrospection. Conquest? But that wasn't recognised after the mid-1700s. How about 'effective occupation'? One does question whether argies have ever been effective. However, at best, argieland managed 6 weeks. Compared to the prior British sovereignty of more than 140 years. 'Prescription' isn't even a starter. You have NOTHING. I see that you reckon that you're a publisher and reporter. Then try accuracy. Or I might be tempted to tell the citizens of Calgary Region about your democratic and legal 'principles'.
3 LEPRecon
Mar 25th, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”including their defence minister (at the time) stating that it was only the British forces on the Falklands that prevented another Argentine invasion.“
You are no doubt referring to this clear threat:
”Argentina’s minister of Defence called on the UK “to sit and dialogue” over the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty and warned that the British military presence in the South Atlantic “is the only element that upholds the usurpation of that part of our national territory”
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/13/argentina-shows-off-jet-model-and-calls-on-uk-to-dialogue-on-falklands-sovereignty
@37 Don Alberto
Mar 25th, 2015 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I do.
Next time they invade, it may end like this:
Mar 25th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt52PF8LIB0&t=51m10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt52PF8LIB0&t=51m10s
@ 37 & 39 Don Alberto
Mar 25th, 2015 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is my post from that link (Aug 2012)
”For myself I would love either:
1) someone, anyone except a Brit, to murder TMBOA as soon as possible. At least that would start a power struggle within Argentina and take the pressure off Uruguay and the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas);
OR
2) absolute destruction of the economy creating the chance of a civil war between the Peronistas and the rest. I think the economy is going to fall off the cliff that it is teetering on, but I don't think there is enough backbone in the population to finish the problem off.
It is only because they cannot manage their own country properly that we have this nonsense happening.“
It seems we are very close to the argie economy falling off the cliff!
BsAs wiped out! Oh dear, never mind.
As long as the good people in BsAs and especially my neighbours and their family get out in time it looks like an ideal ”new start”.
#39 DonAlberto
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly! An imaginary force ready to retake the mythical Malvinas where unicorns graze with the sheep and penguins. All the Argentines now is to invent solders that are capable of exhibiting bravery and courage....
@41
Mar 25th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off topic, but you are always asking about missing video. Have you seen this?
http://panampost.com/adam-dubove/2015/03/25/potential-nisman-evidence-up-in-smoke-after-presidential-palace-fire/
#42 Imoyaro
Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks!
This character assignation of Nisman along with the dissapearing evidence is amazing, but not surprising. I still question the video surveillance of the night of him “committing suicide” and yet nothing has been released. What evil!
Nice of him to tell us how our elected gov should not spend our money, defending our people and territory in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic, so he can steal it.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where do these clowns get off?
I think will just continue to put our faith in good men and missile systems, rather than the words of this Argy gov.
@41
Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's the “Return of the Quetejedi”.
Argentina: What are you waiting for cutting Flights LAN ? Homeless, remains prisoners in the islandés !!
Mar 26th, 2015 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like translate.google.com is under a DOS attack today.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Conqueror: “1,200 British troops can handle 73,100 argies” ???:
Mar 26th, 2015 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“My attack on Singapore was a bluff - a bluff that worked,” Yamashita admitted in his diary. “I had 30,000 men and was outnumbered more than three to one. I knew that if I had to fight long for Singapore, I would be beaten. That is why the surrender had to be at once. I was very frightened all the time that the British would discover our numerical weakness and lack of supplies and force me into disastrous street fighting” (Singapore: The Battle That Changed the World, James Leasor, p. 244, House of Stratus, 2001)
30,000 Japs (including rear echelon) spooked 120,000 Brits at Singapore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Singapore
@48
Mar 26th, 2015 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0They were Japs, not Argies, Slice of Goose Green?
stick up your junta: Not conscripts, but 300 Commandos from the Decima Flottiglia MAS Flottiglia, arriving in speedboats to neutralize Mt Pleasant airfield:
Mar 26th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decima_Flottiglia_MAS#1941
Follow up forces (if needed) would be the Folgore Airborne Division and San Marcos Marine Regiment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decima_Flottiglia_MAS#1941
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decima_Flottiglia_MAS#1941
Er why would italian commndos be attacking mpa and you do know mpa is nearly 8 miles from mare harbour rather ruins the element of suprise if you have to speed march uphill :(.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plus where are these speedboats appearing from? Nobodys going to be in a fit state to do anything crossing from argentina via speedboatapart from beg a hot shower and something hot to drink.
@50
Mar 26th, 2015 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will the Decima be needing any help from the SS to shoot civilians this time, do you think?
Errrr. .. why would one founding member of NATO, (Italy) be attacking another founding member of NATO, (the UK ), in support of the spurious claims of a non - member, (Argentina) ?
Mar 26th, 2015 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0This Alberto Bertorelli chap lives in cloud - cuckoo land.
What a strange fellow.
Well, if this is all Argentina has, (a fantasist, fighting imaginary battles with imaginary assistance from a country that would have to break the NATO treaty to help him) , well if that is all they have got, then the Falklands Islanders are quite safe.
I am not even sure why I have involved myself in such a bizarre discussion.
I feel like I stepped through the Looking Glass... (Italian commandos attacking Mount Pleasant Airport? I don't think there are enough parallel universes for that to ever happen. )
Alberto, you need to do one of two things
a) stop posting here and start writing fantasy novels for children (not involving War)
b) seek professional psychiatric help immediately
Nurse !!
@50 Sr Alberto,
Mar 26th, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you got us at war with ltaly now? Porque?
Are you sure that you're on the right forum?
There is no need for us to go to war with ltalia.
l like Fiat & Same tractors, Vino Moscato, ltalian sports cars, vino moscato, ltalian food & oh, did l mention vino moscato.
Also, my sisters & other friends were taught to ski by the Alpini near Susa.
l'm SURE that those men don't want to go to war with us.
Why are you being so negative? Lived too long in Argentina?
Alberto reminds me of Guzz, you know the way he was always planning on invading the Falklands and willing to sacrifice 10,000 people (not himself of course) and always trying to get others to fight his wars for him.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well Alberto, Italy wouldn't fight the British for many reasons, mainly because it would be a disaster for Italy. Plus the UK could, if attacked by Italy, then legitimately retaliate, and the Italians don't have the stomach for it.
But then this is just a pipe dream of your Alberto. No one in Italy cares about Argentina, the Falklands or even the UK. They care about Italy, they care about themselves and their families.
Every time you post, Alberto, you show up just how weak and impotent Argentina is. And you're right, Argentina is weak and impotent.
A strong, virile country wouldn't have to beg every dictator on the planet to support them. They wouldn't have to beg other countries to do the fighting for them. And they wouldn't have to run off to the UN, and a non-entity committee at the UN for that matter, everytime the UK does something that they don't like.
Face it Alberto, you're a loser, Argentina is a loser, and everytime one of your government opens their mouth they just reinforce that fact.
But maybe indoctrinated idiots like you believe that shouting and jumping up and down impotently is impressive and 'manly', but in reality it just looks desperate and weak.
Another piece of blatant hypocrisy which most have overlooked :
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“24 March, on the 39th anniversary of the 1976 military coup ”
The Montoneros and their allies ( ie the present government today ) were in open armed revolt against the democratically elected government of Isabel Peron , they are only sore because the Army toppled that democratically elected government before they could .
Martin Woodhead: “Plus where are these speedboats appearing from?”:
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0”At 23:30, the MT were released by the destroyers 10 mi (8.7 nmi; 16 km) off Souda. Once inside the bay, the six boats, under the command of Lieutenant Luigi Faggioni, identified their targets: the heavy cruiser HMS York, a large tanker (the Norwegian Pericles of 8,300 long tons (8,400 t)), another tanker and a cargo ship. At 4:46, two MTs hit HMS York amidships, flooding her aft boilers and magazines, and the ship was beached by her own crew to avoid capsizing“ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Souda_Bay
Martin Woodhead: ”Plus where are these speedboats appearing from?“:
”At 23:30, the MT were released by the destroyers 10 mi (8.7 nmi; 16 km) off Souda. Once inside the bay, the six boats, under the command of Lieutenant Luigi Faggioni, identified their targets: the heavy cruiser HMS York, a large tanker (the Norwegian Pericles of 8,300 long tons (8,400 t)), another tanker and a cargo ship. At 4:46, two MTs hit HMS York amidships, flooding her aft boilers and magazines, and the ship was beached by her own crew to avoid capsizing“ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Souda_Bay
LEPRecon: 'Italians don't have the stomach for it”???:
'The enemy positions seemed impregnable, and, in fact, the Italians manning them held out for three days ... Rommel, in a last desperate effort replaced the Italians with crack German troops. Hand-to-hand fighting followed, but the enemy, finally fell back into the ravine, leaving many dead behind “ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Souda_Bay
”The fight atop the 600-foot peak finally ended at 8 p.m. last night. At that hour the first real Italian defenders the British had met surrendered in a body, 326 of them. They gave up only because their ammunition gave out. These Italians were tough, trained killers who didn't feel faint when stout British troopers flung their comrades over the cliffs to clear the road up the side of the steep peak and reach the village at
Alberto Bertorelli is reliving his role from the sitcom 'Allo'Allo...
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nurse! !
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@55
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I'm not mistaken, we're not talking about current Italian forces, but WWII fascist formations.
It's not terribly easy to see what use they'd be to anybody these days, Alberto might as well suggest a Roman Legion instead. They at least had some actual proper bona fide victories to their name. I believe there was one that penetrated into Scotland that they still haven't found yet. Maybe the Argentines could get that?
“Bismarck and Nehring struck on June 12 and their timing was perfect. The distinguished British historian Correlli Barnett called the ensuing battle the greatest defeat in the history of the British armor. When the British XIII Corps commander, General Norrie, realized what was happening, he sent the 22nd Armoured Brigade to rescue the trapped 7th Armoured. The 22nd, however, was pinned down by the Italian Trieste Motorized Division and was taken in the rear by Bismarck and the 21st Panzer. It retreated with heavy losses. Bismarck then returned to the Battle of Knightsbridge, where he, Nehring, and Rommel crushed the 7th Armoured.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_Motorised_Division_Trieste#cite_note-6
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The fight atop the 600-foot peak finally ended at 8 p.m. last night. At that hour the first real Italian defenders the British had met surrendered in a body, 326 of them. They gave up only because their ammunition gave out. These Italians were tough, trained killers who didn't feel faint when stout British troopers flung their comrades over the cliffs to clear the road up the side of the steep peak and reach the village atop it. They stood, fired and fought back and when they gave up they said the allies wouldn't get to Tunis. They holed up in caves and crevices of the slopes and had to be dragged out before their machine guns and mortars were silenced” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_Motorised_Division_Trieste#cite_note-6
Is it not true that argies actually watch animated children's channels that show them how great there countrymen were,
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0they are totally utterly brainwashed.
“Artillery and aircraft may harass but cannot dislodge him. Only bullets and bayonets of rival riflemen can do that. This was well illustrated in the Ousseltia Valley campaign in January when tanks and artillery laid down one of the finest barrages of the campaign but couldn't rout Italians dug in like moles in the hills bordering the road to Kairouan. The artillery was beautiful to see but they couldn't do the job alone. Finally American infantry swarmed up the hills at night and flushed the Italians out in droves with hand grenades and the pointed persuasion of their bayonets” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_El_Guettar
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“During the Tunisian Campaign, where Italian units were involved in most encounters, such as Kasserine Pass, Mareth, Akarit and Enfidaville, it was observed by General Alexander, ”...the Italians fought particularly well, outdoing the Germans in line with them” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_El_Guettar
“...the British military presence in the South Atlantic “is the only element that upholds the usurpation of that part of our national territory””
Mar 26th, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm... needs more honesty...
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”...the British military presence in the South Atlantic “is the only element that prevents our usurpation of that part of another nation's territory””
There we go, far more truthful.
@63
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Finally American infantry swarmed up the hills at night and flushed the Italians out in droves with hand grenades and the pointed persuasion of their bayonets”
How many divisions to a drove?
“Axis forces also made a breakthrough on Highway 13, where the Italians of the Centauro Division spearheaded the attack. In the early morning hours, the Italians pressed their offensive, broke through the remains of the American line, and continued up Highway 13” http://web.archive.org/web/20090131023222/http://www.americainwwii.com/stories/facingthefox.htm
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“In the last week of January 1943, despite a massive artillery bombardment, the 14th Bersaglieri Battalion of the 131st Armoured Division Centauro dug-in near Djebel Rihana refused to vacate their positions when the 26th Regimental Combat Team and 443rd Anti-Aircraft Battalion attacked” http://web.archive.org/web/20090131023222/http://www.americainwwii.com/stories/facingthefox.htm
“On 23 March, the 10th Panzer Division, supported by the 7th Bersaglieri Regiment, attacked Lieutenant-Colonel Robert H. York's 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 1st Infantry Division, and the German tanks broke through the valley between the 3rd and 1st Battalions of the 1st Division, reaching a position about six miles to the rear of the 1st Battalion. In the action, the German tanks and self-propelled guns along with Bersaglieri troops riding in carriers and trucks overran the 32nd Field Artillery Battalion and part of the 5th Field Artillery Battalion, and the Italian High command reported that 170 Allied troops had been captured” http://web.archive.org/web/20090131023222/http://www.americainwwii.com/stories/facingthefox.htm
@66 Alberto
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0If all you have are some old battles from a war that the AXIS lost then you are really in big trouble.
The UK won that war. Italy lost that war.
The UK won the Falklands War. Argentina LOST that war.
And no matter how many links to old battles that are IRRELEVANT today and didn't alter the outcome of WW2, because the ALLIES WON and the AXIS LOST, it won't change the fact that your country is a loser.
And your government continues to embarrass your country on the international stage by making such a mountain out of a molehill. People in the 'real' world can see for themselves that improving a school and upgrading equipment isn't going to be a threat to Argentina.
All Argentina is doing is embarrassing itself.
All YOU are doing is embarrassing yourself too.
Really pathetic.
Try to come up with something more...relevant.
Glorious Ravenna Division:
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“In spite of the unfavourable balance of forces - the 'Cosseria' and the 'Ravenna' faced eight to nine Russian divisions and an unknown number of tanks - the atmosphere among Italian staffs and troops was certainly not pessimistic.... The Italians, especially the officers of the 'Cosseria', had confidence in what they thought were well built defensive positions”
“During this phase, the Germans praised the steadfastness of Italian infantry, who held out tenaciously even in isolated strongpoints but eventually reached their breaking-point under this constant pressure ”
“The attack at dawn failed to penetrate fully at first and developed into a grim struggle with Italian strongpoints, lasting for hours. The Ravenna Division was the first to be overrun. A gap emerged that was hard to close, and there was no holding back the Red Army when it deployed the mass of its tank forces the following day. German reinforcements came too late in the breakthrough battle”
“Further down the Don River, the Russians made progress against the German 298th Division, which was deployed between Ravenna and Pasubio”
“The German 298th Division stopped taking orders from the Italian 35th Corps and began taking orders from the German staff of the Italian 29th Corps. The division retreated from its positions, and did not bother to inform General Francesco Zingales, the Italian commander of the 35th Corps”
“Germans efforts to cut themselves loose from the Italians and escape on their own, brought little success: abandoning joint defense eased the Russian task of encircling Axis forces. The German 298th Division and the German staff of the Italian 29th Corps Headquarters still ended up behind enemy lines with their Italian comrades-in-arms”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Mountain_Infantry_Division_Ravenna#cite_note-6
Nurse!
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Grandpa Alberto needs his medication!
Nurse! Come quick!
@69
Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alberto's puppet-master is succeeding with his objective of posting trivia to distract from the original topic.
I wonder who the TTTroll or puppet-master is.?
We will pray for him.
Please stop shouting. we can hear you.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are understaffed here,
What with Think, Marcos, Hepatia(special case, that one-completely loony),Vestige, paulcedron(completely off his rocker but harmless) & others, l don't know where to start.
Aha got ahold of you, Gramps.
This won't hurt, did it?
He'll settle.
Sad case, that one, thinks hes General Gasolini from 1942.
Next.
Im surprised poor Alberto Bertorelli
Mar 26th, 2015 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0has not mentioned the romans,
and their defeat of those nasty brits...lol
The decline of the Roman Empire is exemplified by Alberto.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just need to watch his grandfather in 'Allo 'Allo...
Argentina are a threat to no one but themselves.
Mar 26th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why those 40 resolutions and 2065 xx from 1965 are m e a n i n g l e s s :
Mar 26th, 2015 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.academia.edu/10573354/UNGA_2065_XX_Question_of_The_Falkland_Islands_16_Dec_1965
Italians??? The cowards that run with their broken arses back to Albania when they met the descendents of Leonidas.... Yes I remember
Mar 26th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eglKhZ4ycGU
@50
Mar 26th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Not conscripts, but 300 Commandos from the Decima Flottiglia MAS Flottiglia, arriving in speedboats to neutralize Mt Pleasant airfield:”
Must be fantastic boats to go overland from Mare Harbour-don't you think hovercraft would be more successful?
Or do you mean the speedboats would be parachuted out of an aircraft to then race over MPA airfield?
Do these speedboats have wheels?
Do these speedboats have a range of 400 miles?
I'll match your dream with something just as stupid-the UK will tart up the two remaining TSR2s and fly them down to MPA in readiness to take out the five nearest Argentine airfields.
And the defences at MPA will just let these commandos arrive without any opposition?
@77 Pete Bog
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol.
Pete Bog: “Do these speedboats have a range of 400 miles?”
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, the Regia Marina destroyers would cut the distance for them by half. Motorbikes for the Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos would've already have been landed by subs or fishing trawlers under the cover of bad weather. I always win this way in the Malvinas War Boardgame we play here every Friday night over a carton of Quilmes beers.
@79 Alberto Bertorelli
Mar 26th, 2015 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You’re going to land Motorbikes from Trawlers or Submarines, in S. Atlantic bad weather????
Parachuting boats with wheels would actually be a lot easier.
Pugol-H: “You’re going to land Motorbikes from Trawlers or Submarines, in S. Atlantic bad weather?”:
Mar 27th, 2015 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Okay they'll be brought ashore in the speedboats aboard the Regia Marina destroyers. Also the Malvinas nights are long, starting at about 4.30 pm in autumn and ending at about 8.30 am, and the advance guard aboard speedboat travelling at 90 kms in choppy waters would just take some 4 hours to cover 400kms. Even if the speedboats of the second wave were reduced to travelling at 30 kmh, they would still get to their positions under the cover of darkness, taking some 13 hours to cover the 400kms.
@81
Mar 27th, 2015 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow! 90 kph! Only exceeded by the Argentine Navy heading for port in 1982.
Argentine Navy saved Rio Gallegos airbase from attack, sending to the bottom several rubber boats packed with SBS commandos. http://www.irizar.org/823facchin-speroni.pdf
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@83 You try doing 90 kph in a heavy swell, you would get 1 km before what ever you were riding in flew apart.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Islanders are so interbred now it will only be a couple of generations before they morph back into a single cell protein, then we can turn the Islands into a remote trash dump.
Klingon: I would personally parade the British Redcoats through the streets of Rome.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh dear!
Mar 27th, 2015 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alberto has finally lost the plot!
Nurse!
Board Games?? That is the totallity of Argentine Military Power?
Is that all you have left?
Must be tough in that Old Folks Home, you know, trying to maintain a grip on reality.
Nurse!
Get him his meds. please!
It's has been proven that Anti-Tank Dogs cost the Germans dearly on the eastern front. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
Mar 27th, 2015 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dolphins can also be used to fight battles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
Maybe Argentina can genetically engineer sheep to swamp the British defences?
@87
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pfft. Dolphins. The Falklands could out-penguin dolphins any day of the week.
I have a better plan that doesn't need sheep. What I do when board-gaming is I have William the Conqueror land at Mare Harbour and start setting fire to things while the MPA garrison is over at Stanley fighting off a Danish invasion. When eventually they come yomping back, I shoot the King in the eye with an arrow. Works every time.
Redcoats through Rome?
Mar 27th, 2015 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have we conquered ltaly now?
Maybe we've helped them throw the Moors or Byzantines or the Huns out?
Wish they wouldn't start these little skirmishes without letting me know.
lt makes me so cross.
Never mind, Rome, the British Legions will save you.
Greetings from Eboracum.
SPQR
Against an obvious 'live threat,' attack helicopters plus attack submarines are also urgently needed.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Honi soit qui mal y pense,
Philippe
Bwahahahahahaha!!!
Mar 27th, 2015 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 084. Remote trash dump? Why move it from Buenos Aires?
Mar 27th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@83
Mar 27th, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Right. I understand we're also supposed to believe you sank an aircraft carrier as well.
Wasn't the Bouchard one of those escorting destroyers that either didn't know the Belgrano had been sunk, or that fled the scene?
If we followed Alberto Bertorelli example and thinking,
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then if it was not for the Germans getting in the way,
Italy would have won the war and probably conquered Germany as well,
Perhaps the world today, could have descended from Italy.
This Italian-Argentine relationship is a lot deeper than I originally thought...
Mar 27th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FADEA Official News Release
Buenos Aires
March 25, 2015
Public Distribution
“Directors of the Argentina aircraft factory Fabrica Argentina de Aviones SA [Fadea] announced plans for significant revival of the company, by the purchase of all intellectual and design rights from Italy to build the famed Breda ba.88 Lince, as its primary fighter attack bomber, to be known as IA-15 whose first completion will be ready by early 2017. This aircraft will allow pilots to pass training in the mentor to the Pampa IA-63, an advanced trainer aircraft, receiving the modernization of its engine and avionics, to make it competitive in the new global aviation.”
@95
Mar 27th, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It just goes to show what's possible when you have an Air Force as courageous as Argentina's. Alberto Bertorelli must be so proud!
#96 Hans
Mar 27th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I know is that if I were a RAF Typhoon pilot, I'd be frightened.
Another episode of 'Allo 'Allo Italian superiority...
How do you catch a plane that is flying backwards..lol
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Italians are Lovers & Fighters:
Mar 27th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Italian Marines, well dug and plentifully supplied with automatic weapons and grenades, fought well, and casualties among the 6th Green Howards had been severe; two senior officers, six senior NCO's and junior officers and one hundred and eighteen other ranks killed”
“German General Hans-Jürgen von Arnim later said of the San Marco Marines fighting abilities in Tunisia in 1943, that they were ”the best soldiers I ever commanded”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_Regiment
@97
Mar 27th, 2015 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd be even more frightened down on the ground, with one of those babies aloft. The Duce Tuffando had a highly original ground attack strategy.
Alberto Bertorelli please explain why the Italians LOST in WWII and Argentina LOST in 1982.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks!
#102 ilsen
Mar 28th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You might add to ask about Italian bravery regarding September 1940 when 36,000 British soldiers repelled 200,000 troops of the Regio Esercito bent on invading Egypt. I might add that the Italians had greater armament as well.
Everyone who's familiar with Italia and/or Italians (and thus by proxy Argentina/Argentines) knows that the only reason Italy has a army is so that their soldiers can show off their uniforms.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a movie - Mediterráneo - that explains the phenomenon to a tee. As it turns out, war is dangerous, dirty and sad, something that came as a shock to the Italian soldiers; they were in it for glory, women and to make a fashion statement.
To defend Italy, after WWII, they have been a model member of NATO, providing great military bases for the Americans and their uniforms are outstanding.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They've found their true vocation: To be a lover, not a fighter...
@79
Mar 28th, 2015 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I always win this way in the Malvinas War Boardgame we play here every Friday night over a carton of Quilmes beers.”
So you can't even make your own beer? What gives?
In the board game that I use, (Falklands War Two ) after drinking homemade Elderberry Wine, containing no pesticides like Malbec and 25p a bottle to make):” the Marina's are sunk by Astute class subs, the fishing trawlers are spotted long before they get anywhere near the coast by FIGAS fishery patrol Islanders and the FIDF fisheries patrol boat. But using the Malvinas Myth theory, the motorbikes sunk in the trawlers,(and the riders in survival suits) are transported by transmit beam to land at MH, coincidentally the same time the FIDF are liberating written off clothing from the MPA dump up the road (under the pretence of practising for the March and Shoot competition). So as according to the Malvinas Myth theory, Falkland Islanders don't exist, the intrepid bikers don't see the FIDF loading their Steyrs and shooting shit out of them. But alas, two of the bikers escape and as they race to the main gate at MPA, the guards are too bored to shoot, so they release the killer dogs who leap up and knock them off their bikes until the RIC arrive.
However unlike your realistic board game, mine is crap because as all Argentines know, there are no Astute class submarines in service, there is no such thing as the FIDF, or PBN Islander patrol aircraft and certainly no guard dogs whatsoever at MPA . And no Falklands fishery patrol boat. And as there are never any strong South Westerly winds in the Falklands your speed boats can be parachuted onto MPA with pinpoint precision whilst the bored squaddies desperately looking for some kind of action don't notice the parachutes or the alarm sirens going off.
#105 Pete
Mar 28th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A couple of noisy questions. Quilmes beer is from Argentina. How is it imported in? Second ( which is of great interest to me) what wine is available, where from and what is popular there?
With all sincerity, Chicureo
The Brits don't want another war with Argentina any more than the Argentines really want another war with Britain. However, a little sabre rattling never did anyone any harm. In Argentina they are going to spend some money to provide a desperately needed upgrade. Given their current economic situation it will not be surprising if there is some resistance to this process. Any kind of link, however spurious, with the Malvinas affair is bound to get the heavily conditioned Argentine public on the side of the government and ensure that the upgrade goes smoothly, whatever it costs.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the UK, Cameron and his boys can point out that with oil exploration going on the Falklands could become a pretty desirable place. Not a bad idea to make sure therefore that it is properly defended. Who knows but that some crazy local government might not enlist the help of a great power, promising a payoff in the form of a share in the oil revenues that will be gained as a result. So regardless of whatever is or is not happening in the background (the truth of which we probably will never know) it's not such a bad idea for the Brits to put enough men and hardware down there so that they can send the message “don't even think about it”. And at the same time the Brits can update their skills where long distance logistics are concerned - not bad skills to have.
Pete Bog: In your game, can you stop 100 speedboats carrying 1,000 Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos under the cover of darkness, after leaving Isla de los Estados (Staten Island) only 516kms from MPA? What about if Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos suddenly arrived from a Russian luxury cruise ship and took over the local pubs and strip club? What about if Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos wearing British uniforms and speaking perfect English, having been landed from submarines, suddenly appeared with several cartons of beer at the gates of MPA?
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 108 'Allo, 'Allo, Bertorelli
Mar 28th, 2015 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What about if Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos wearing British uniforms and speaking perfect English, having been landed from submarines, suddenly appeared with several cartons of beer at the gates of MPA?”
I think the funny hats with the dyed black CHICKEN feathers (so apt, that) would give them all away.
Bertorelli's most used phrase is “What a mistake-a to make-a!” And “Heil-a Mussolini!” followed by “Mussolini...never go well”
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about if Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos suddenly arrived from a Russian luxury cruise ship and took over the local pubs and strip club? “Mama Mia! Thosea sheeps gotta a beeg teats!”
@105 Chicureo
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Being a farmer I am so tight fisted I brew my own beer, cider and wine.
Some of it is great, some OK and some could be better but all cheap to make.
I don't know much about the Argy grog.
@108 Alberto
In my game I throw a dice and the South Atlantic ceases to be the flat calm mill pond of your game and changes into the ....South Atlantic with huge waves through which the speedboats flounder.
“What about if Decima Flottiglia MAS Commandos wearing British uniforms and speaking perfect English, having been landed from submarines, suddenly appeared with several cartons of beer at the gates of MPA?”
Are the submarines Argentine-in which case they are only allowed 19 hours at sea a year? And they would not be submerged, most Argentine subs spend most time sailing on the surface.
When the MAS commandos arrive at the gates they are arrested as any respectable Brit would bring a slab, not a few cartons!
#111 Pete Blog
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Being a farmer I am so tight fisted I brew my own beer, cider and wine.”
Interesting! The apples are domestically grown in the FI? The wine is from grapes, or another fruit? I greatly admire those who home brew. I've dabbled in beer and I've made a considerable amount of pretty bad wine.
Problem here is that wine is so reasonable, it's cheaper to buy than make.
My family has been in farming as a secondary vocation for three generations in Chile. Some years it's profitable and others a very terrible business, but it's satisflying to be somewhat self reliant.
During our Allende nightmare, it kept our family fed.
MPA: The Singapore Fortress of the South Atlantic:
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The day will come when M41A Pulse Rifle armed Space Marines, falling like lightning from heaven thanks to their UD4L Cheyenne dropships, will quickly surround and overwhelm the British Redcoats defending MPA and we will parade the captured Redcoats through the streets of Rome.
113 Alberto BertorelliQ.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0How did they advertise surplus W. W. II Italian rifles for sale? A. “Never fired, and only dropped once.”
Alberto,
Mar 29th, 2015 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does it still hurt?
Your head, l mean.
There, there, go & lie down.
You've got it bad.
*sighs*, Not much hope for him, l'm afraid.
112
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....“Interesting! The apples are domestically grown in the FI?”
Try Staffordshire...where as likely as not, you will also find Pete Bog.....
People, one would suggest hat Alberto Bertorelli
Mar 29th, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is a very eccentric person, with a great imagination,
good luck to him..
anyway ,
Special forces once remarked , that their is no such thing as a secret, if you know abt it ???
@115
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you you think it is a terminal case?
What shall we tell the children?
“Poor old uncle Albert has gone to live on a farm in Argentina ”
Perhaps?
The last competent Italian commander that lived a millennium and a half ago was called Flavius Aetius, but he was actually Bulgarian.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“”“”....... a Russian luxury cruise ship .......“”“”“”“””
Mar 30th, 2015 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0isnt that a contradiction in terms...?
@95
Mar 31st, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pampas 1a 63? I thought Pampas were what babies had a dump in, Oooops sorry that will be Pampers LOL
@119
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget Cadorna.
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