Argentina's First Court of the Buenos Aires City Federal Appeals Court dismissed late prosecutor Alberto Nisman’s accusation that claimed President Cristina Fernández and other top officials had tried to negotiate impunity for the alleged Iranian masterminds of the 1994 AMIA Jewish community centre bombing. Read full article
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Mar 27th, 2015 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina may have won the domestic battle, for now, but she has been exposed globally as a crook.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Her reputation is in tatters.
They are trying to hurry up and extinguish all legal routs of Nisman's accusations. They haven't even bothered in investigating the accusations.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The generals could not keep on being the string pullers of the judges and politicians after they left power. The same will happen with the Ks.
No surprise, the thuggery and corruption continues. I am still hoping CFK ends up in a USA jail for being a NarKo.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its an easy way to get rid of her.
And there's plenty of evidence to find once its out of power.
now it's clear who was benefited with nisman's death.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it would not be so difficult to link his death with the beneficiaries.
except for fein who is more interested in knowing if nisman was gay, bisexual or if he had a a lot of girlfriends.
Sad... They really believe in themselves... Don't they know the whole world is watching... They have dug such a pit for the country that they'll never get out...
Mar 27th, 2015 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An operation to attack the government of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has failed miserably as it should be. There was nothing on the late prosecutor Alberto Nisman, nothing that could ever be the starter of some evidence. There was not, as one of the three judges said, a shred of evidence of crime.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is very sad, there is no shred of decency left in this country presently. Three cowards that didn't want to wind up with suicide notes next to their bed did what they were told... Nisman was indeed a hero and maybe some day will be remembered as such.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What then are the chances of Iran retaliating against Argentina,
Mar 27th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after all, this must annoy them, and Argentina is no America and Iran hates them.
just a thought.
#8 dsullivanboston:
Mar 27th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, one of the appeal judges voted against the ruling. So you would need to reduce the number of cowards to two.
Also, by now we know there is a prosecutor willing to immediately appeal the ruling. That will keep the matter alive for still some time...as opponents to the CFK government wish.
However, prosecutor Nisman's accusation it's already pretty much dead on the water. The appeal judges who voted to dismiss it presented abundant, clear juridic reasons in support of their decision, which would be difficult to rebut by the Supreme Court--any court for that matter. Their considerations supported and amplified those already submitted by the original judge Daniel Rafecas.
In any event, for anybody who takes the time to read Nisman's 280-page accusation can see, even without a legal background, the lose style full of repetitions, emotional undertones and lack of substance in the accusation. The text was so sloppily written, it could have been edited to 40 pages and still say the same.
Its famous two main arguments--the read alerts and the plans for oil exchange--were dead in the water just a few days after the accusation was presented.
The actual winners of this are the Argentine electors. With a political scandal behind, officialism and opposition can focus on issues and election platforms, which is what really matters. Yes, I know, a timely scandal would have made things much easier for opposition parties.
Too bad, guys. Back to square one.
While Nisman’s ex-wife, Judge Sandra Arroyo Salgado, claims he was murdered, the prosecutor in charge of the case, Viviana Fein, says there is no evidence to affirm that was the case.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a miserable excuse of a clear brutal murder. There has still been no release of security camera recording the night of the crime.
I personally know some very decent, honest and good Argentinians, but it seems two thirds of them are corrupt, dishonest and despicable.
@10 PAY WHAT YOU OWE, Lend me US$ 1,000,000 and I will give you back US$ 300,00 is that fair or not?
Mar 27th, 2015 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 011 chilote
Mar 27th, 2015 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so 2/3 of argentinians are dishonest and blablabla?
and where did you get those numbers?
you made a poll or something?
or are you just talking shite as always?
I think it is time our troops paid the embassies of North America, Europe, Asia, and South American nations a visit. All of them, with guns loaded and locked, to explain what could happen if they keep getting involved in our business.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Over a cup of tea, of course.
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Mar 27th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pay your part of the debt that england never paid to argentina for the food shipments in ww2, you cronic debtor.
pirates and thieves.
great combo.
#13 Paulcedron
Mar 27th, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of the 3 judges, only one voted with his heart. And you could be correct, perhaps as much as 4 out of five Argentines could be corrupt, dishonest and despicable.
I was just trying to give my Argentine brothers the benefit of the doubt.
@14
Mar 27th, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chopper, there's nothing I'd love more than to see that happen, and you know I am no friend of yours. ;)
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14. Toby, Your country can't win a war against Paraguay.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep dreaming.
The only people detroying Argentina are the Argentinas.
You really should ask a civilized country to take over
Maybe the UK would do it
Always the same question. WHO benefits? But let's be realistic. Nisman spent 10 years investigating. Would he have been castigated if he had failed to identify the instigators of the AMIA bombing? How do you castigate an investigator who has followed every trail, located every piece of evidence? Some numpty was going to stand up and ask 'What about this'? I think not. Nisman was about to blast the Kirchner 'administration' wide open. There would have been enough for impeachment and a full-scale investigation into which no Kirchnerite would have been able to insert so much as a false eyelash.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4. A Seal Team Six or Delta Force 'snatch'? Remember 'The Man in the Iron Mask'? Stick a flour sack over her head. Nobody need ever know.
@7. Time for a real investigation. Aren't you a K-riminal? Ready to publish all your bank statements. We'll also need keys and codes for safety deposit boxes. Do you own a spade? Where have you dug over the last 20 years?
@10. Oh dear, you don't know much, do you? Want to research 'planted evidence'? Now, with such an important investigation involving the 'dead of state', why wouldn't argieland call in an international team of the best investigators in the world? Because the current internal 'investigators' can be 'fixed'. And you are so easily fooled. Or is it a case of how much you've been paid? Nobody is saying that the Kircher cow actually pulled the trigger. Except there's probably much on tv on a Sunday night. But who did she tell to do the killing? Now, who believes that Kircher is GUILTY as hell?
@13. Well, there's you for a start. Tinkle-bell. Tobi the tonker. Marcos the minger. Many things beginning with 'V'. Shall we include the 'historical'? Avargas the arse. alex-arg. And so many others that I forget, as they were unlikely to be human. Like you. There are many tv programmes these days that mention the alien lizard people. I always think of you.
@14. Love it. 50,000 argie dead? And the response. 10 million okay?
Do posters in this board who dismiss the whole Argentine based on a judicial ruling on one single case realize how inconsistency plague their reasoning?
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because the ruling did not go the way they expected, not only the judges are worthless, but the whole country is condemned altogether.
Had just another judge voted along with justice Farah, then the tone would be different, and hope would sprout for a country on its way to recovering.
Come on! Say it as it really is: You want CFK out of the way and will cheer for anything that might help that--and you despise any Argentine who does anything that helps or fails to attack CFK.
Chicureo at #11, opportunistically rides on the back of Arroyo Salgado, Nisman's ex-wife who is trying to obtain a murder ruling so that she can cash her life insurance and joyfully dismissing the prosecutor working in the case.
Why they still have not dismissed Fein and placed Chicureo, who knows better, at her place is a mistery.
Lastly, those who carelessly dismiss Argentine members of the judiciary if they do not like their decisions are the same who praise the NY justice system's poster boy: Justice Thomas Griesa, widely expected to be CFK's executioner.
Seems like you are gonna have to keep hoping for now.
Because the ruling did not go the way they expected
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hang on a mo, this is what you guys do not us, always complaining when you cant get your own way,
Besides just because a judge makes a decision, it does not make it right,
or does it.
@20
Mar 27th, 2015 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I've stated before, pinche viejo Nacional Socialista, I hope your fuehrer abrogates the constitution and stays in for a third term, or what is more likely, takes over after the next president is unable to stay in office. Of course, Maximo Gordo would also be acceptable. Anything that keeps you Nazis prostrate and unable to attack your neighbors works. ;)
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Enrique Massot
Mar 27th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman rejects Iran cover-up
[You state the following]
Just a few points.
Any living soul who takes the time to read [1] Nisman's 280-page document instead of reading second-hand versions, it becomes clear that the whole thing had been a careless collection of [2] allegations
Just one point--the alleged motivation for CFK and Timerman to attempt the [3] cover-up--the purchase of Iranian oil is ridicule, as not only did not happen--it could have never happened for technical reasons
And followed up with….
-Nisman's ex-wife who is trying to obtain a “murder” ruling so that she can cash her life insurance-
And-Lastly, those who carelessly[4] dismiss Argentine members of the judiciary
1, have you read the 280 page document.
2, allegations - = ex-wife who is trying to obtain a “murder” ruling so that she can cash her life insurance [ is this not a allegation without proof.
3, cover-up--the purchase of Iranian oil is ridicule,= are you privy to information that the experts don’t?
4, I don’t think they want them dismissed, its just that they possibly feel they have been bought.
just a few honest questions...
#14. Pagination boi.....nice to see your back off the streets chugging BBCs . I hate to inform you that your troops.....all.....what....5 of them Would hardly know appropriate tactics to fights real troops......US Marines guarding the embassy. Get daddies cock out of your mouth it is making you stupider.
Mar 27th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still pretending to live in Mendoza.........care to talk some current events not in the news there?
10 Enrique I am offended you think I am so nieve as to buy the canned CFK storyline. That is for domestic consumption only, so please don't insult me. It defies any common sense to believe otherwise. The slander, insults that seep out of the out house/casa rosada are just further testimony of where the guilt lies. If you choose to be a dolt and believe you are truly a stooge.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 016 well said..
Its not the end of the world, until the Ks have gone they are remain above the law. Once they have no money nor power we will go after them. The case will be re oppened.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@26
Mar 28th, 2015 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The case certainly does have legs, as they say. ;)
20 Enrique Massot
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because the ruling did not go the way they expected, not only the judges are worthless, but the whole country is condemned altogether
Oh mon petit Chou. The ruling went EXACTLY the we expected it to go.
The only thing that it proves is that:-
1/ KFC and her government are thugs. Nothing more, nothing less
2/ There is no Justice in argentina
3/ Everyone who has the ability to change things is either no interested or in someone else's pocket.
23 Briton
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your questions:
1, have you read the 280 page document.
A: Yes I have. It's available online. It does not take long to read as is full of fluff and repetitions--about 40 pages are relevant. You get a much clear picture when you read it.
2, allegations - = ex-wife who is trying to obtain a “murder” ruling so that she can cash her life insurance [ is this not a allegation without proof.
A: You may be right. But there is more to it. Sandra Arroyo has twice blocked important parts of the investigation. The first one was the expert examination of Nisman's computers and other electronic devices, with the privacy argument. A couple of days ago, Arroyo again blocked a medical conference gathering her consultant physicians and the official ones. Having proclaimed she wants the true to be known, she is doing much to obstruct it.
3, cover-up--the purchase of Iranian oil is ridicule,= are you privy to information that the experts don’t?
A: If that weren't true at least somebody would have gone public stating the opposite. Opponents are not scared. No one has ever done it.
4, I don’t think they want them dismissed, its just that they possibly feel they have been bought.
A: Well. They possibly feel... I am sorry. I don't deal with magical thinking.
# 26 CD
Until the Ks have gone they are remain above the law. Come on. Have you heard of the Ley de Medios?
When was the law approved? 2009.
Was it applied? No sir. The judiciary stopped it.
How long ago the Supreme Court declared the law constitutional? Oct. 2013.
And the application is still stopped by injunctions.
Of course, you can come and tell the Ks are dictators and are all-powerful. It remains, the separation of powers is a fact today in Argentina.
@18
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah but alas they won't... they aren't civilized after all.
#30 Pagina boi I'm curious, how's fracking for oil from Andes Engergia IN MENDOZA going. More so, how's that mixing with oil?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just the thought of fracking in the same region for wine.......wow, some wine.
Still insisting you are from Mendoza? In nothing (and you are), your are consistent.
30. And what the f*k would an old terrorist turd that has lived on welafare pensions in Canada would know about Argentina in 2015??
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 060% of all judges in the country have being appointed by the Ks.
Just wait till the Ks have gone from power and the judges will turn over like a pancake.
Why has Canada been so lucky to get Argentine rejects? They must have had easy imigrations laws pre 9/11
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And just like in the other thread ANGLO education at work.
Fracking in Mendoza takes place in Malargue county. There are no vines in Malargue county. The wine regions are in the Uco Valley (San Carlos, Tunuyan, Tupungato counties), in San Rafael county, and in the northern Mendoza oasis counties. No relation whatsoever.
Meanwhile as California ceases to exist as a food producer, the amount of food coming from fracking areas in your country is soaring. Fracking has already been proven to cause earthquakes, that disrupt the water table, that allow toxins to seep into soils UPWARD from the water table (since duh... oil floats on water), and highly cancerous agents are now found in most Midwestern US food (which already was genetically modified, so that sounds like a nice cocktail).
So while California becomes a Sahara, the Northeast USA the New Laurentian Ice sheet, and the middle become a toxins soup of fracking with wheat on top gladly absorbing all of it.
Yawn stick to sucking that BBC in Toronto. Actually, if you go Cuba, you can get that transition surgery.....probably next to nothing.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know what I chuckle about you Pagina Boi? I talk of the places I've been to, you talk of the places you've googled. Have you found the name of the street the farmers protested on in Mendoza? Did you recognize that building yet? Oh...yes.......please I am still patiently waiting (5 months now) for a store....ANY TYPE OF STORE, no longer has to be a restaurant, when I enter, describe what I will immediately see to the left OR right......nothing? Can't google something like that? Why is that? BECAUSE YOU TALK BULLSHIT OUT YOU ASS AND ARE NOT FROM MENDOZA OR ARGENTINA.
You are a paper asshole. The next time you bend over to use it, remember those words you paper asshole. You are like that old while haired and bearded Enrique from Canada in which you most likely are. You/he should be put to rest.
Funny how some writers in this board, hiding behind nicknames, use other writers' place of residence to try to disqualify them.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bit above, you have nicknamed Captain Poppy spending a lot of energy questioning whether another writer--Stroll with the Troll--lives in Mendoza, Argentina.
In the same breath, he wonders how the heck I came to reside in Canada.
Of course, this sort of tactics to take the discussion away from the real topics does not appear to be a Captain's job. With luck, it could be that of a Cabin Boy.
29@
Mar 29th, 2015 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thank you for your reply....
Hiding Enrique.....you have my email....name and where I life........what more do you want.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hint.........that is a real title for me. And Poppy Is What My Grandson calls me. You wish to meet me in Boston? Halfway....Burlington Vt........hey I frequent Montreal.
Reekie and the other Kidiots on here don't see it as hypocritical that they can complain about free market and the rule of law be protected by a civilized country and then glorify the thuggery, corruption, kleptocracy in Argentina.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It takes a special kind of idiot to not see the hypocrisy.
Enrique.....pedophilia is now legal in Argentina mainly because of Fat Max. It's now safe to return.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#38
Apr 01st, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Intentionally or otherwise you missed my point. Again, I was talking about the lack of courage of those who insult other people hiding behind a nickname. Do you treat in the same way people in front of you who happen to disagree?
#39 YB
the thuggery, corruption, kleptocracy in Argentina. (and assorted insults)
No doubt you speak like some of the most poisoned opponents to CFK. Now, not everybody in Argentina thinks like those opponents. Many people, in fact, believe the Kirchners have done outstanding things for their country while in government, many that had never been done before. Like it or not, this is what's happening right now, and the opposition is having a hard time making something stick to the government. So if you are calling me an idiot for that, I am telling you I have some company--and good company at that.
#40
I gather from your previous posting that you have a grandson so you must be of a certain age and therefore your reasoning would not be clouded by testosterone surges. How sad, sir.
What age would that be....being you know it all enrique? I posted my picture here before so you should have a guessitmate of my age......ask Vocie he viewed and I am sure others have like Tobi and I also posted the Borges book to shut him up. It worked because he never responded.........tThe only thing sad is you hiding in Canada.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ashame those Ford Falcons missed you. Perhaps they got a companera of yours though and you are still scared. But I will go with the little boi sex toys. You can return now.....it's all good under Kirchner.
Sir....may your death be soon and slow being it can't be at my hands.
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