MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands' conflict hypothesis: Argentine Mirages are banned from flying on cloudy days
The Argentine government and media agree that the country does not have the military capacity to attack the Falkland Islands as feared by Britain. A report in daily La Nacion points out the Argentine armed forces lack landing crafts, troop transport vessels and even the Mirage fighter planes are banned from flying on cloudy days because of repeated problems with their instruments. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMe thinks the Ladies of BA doth protest too much.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Argentina can't even reach the Malvinas with men equipped for combat. Beyond any wish or fantasy of domestic policy, the 650 kilometers separating the Malvinas islands are an insurmountable barrier“ no shit Sherlock, that will be the Southern Atlantic that separates you, cos the Islands are no where near your coast line. At least someone in Argentina has figured it out!
Mar 28th, 2015 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someone forgot to tell Mr Daniel Gallo that the Islands are an enclave and not having them disrupts their territorial integrity. Bet he will get a telling off from the Government. Dooohhhhh
They are STILL flying Mirages?
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha, you know the rest.
Hmmm lets see now. They have more than enough troop transport planes that are also capable of para dropping troops and cargo such as tanks on to the islands. When they have their new fighter jets, as good as the typhoons are its likely 2-3 out of the four are operational at any one time, therefore 18-24 jets against 2-3 typhoons won't be a long fight, so they will get Air Supierority quickly, as it also won't take long to knock out the 1 Rapier unit (Yes only 1 on the islands). Though the Rapier unit will probably be taken out by special forces mission timed to coincide with any air attack. They will also attack when they know the South Atlantic Patrol Vessel is days away from returning to the islands to defend them. So yes they have the ability and do not need Sea Superiority, they could once they have their new jets do it by air by para dropping their mean and Armour on to the islands a safe distance from mount pleasant, whilst their air force pound mount pleasant ready for the troops to capture it and the runaway. Which if intact can be used for their own aircraft to defend against our attempts to retake the islands. Bear in mind they will have their jets before our aircraft carriers are operational as it be early 2020's before we have a full contingent of F35's for the Queen Elizabeth carrier alone.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plus the Argentines are well known for their lies. So when they say one thing, such as they do not have the ability to invade, they mean that they do have the ability to invade, as per my first paragraph makes clear.
And then, Teaboy wakes up. Sweating...
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina would be in here like a shot if they could.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0If MPA wasn't here they'd be in now with what they've got. Therefore MPA is a necessary deterrent that is not only saving the Falklands but it's actually also saving Argentina from another arse kicking.
Argentina, despite what they say, would love a better military but there are two things stopping them:
1. Crisis Fernadez de Kirchner can't risk a decent military turning against her.
2. She can't afford it anyway.
3. Argentines lack the English warmongering gene...
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Stevie
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since when? The 'warmongering gene' as you call has been around since BEFORE there were English people, and continues in many countries and people who are NOT English. So we can only surmise that this 'warmongering gene' is actually a part of Homo Sapiens genetic make up.
To remind YOU that the ONLY times that there has been violence regarding the Falklands was when Argentina initiated it.
Argentina is a VERY war mongering nation. You only have to listen to the bile your government spews out regarding the Falklands. You only have to look at Argentina's warmongering history where it STOLE land from the indigenous population, followed by STEALING land from your LATAM 'brothers', followed by your attempt to STEAL land from the British.
There is NO DOUBT in anyone's mind that IF Argentina had the military capability they would attack the Falklands in a heartbeat. Then you would follow up by attacking all your LATAM 'brothers' because you also claim their land as your own.
So the 'warmongering' gene is very, very much part of Argentine nationalist makeup, and a very large part of that genetic makeup.
But you knew that anyway, didn't you?
And as others say, Argentina is an untrustworthy nation that always says one thing, and then does the opposite. Your country has never met a treaty or law, or made a promise, that it hasn't planned on breaking.
If it were up to me I'd divert some of the troops and equipment, that are leaving Germany to return to the UK, to the Falklands and give your pathetic government something to really complain about.
-Infantry battalions
-Artillery regiments
-Armoured regiments
-Apache helicopters
-More RAF fighters & bombers
-More RN vessels
And of course the nuclear powered submarine that may or may not be cruising around beneath the waves of the South Atlantic.
@7 Probably why they lost in 1982 when they embarked on their armed military invasion of a peaceful island.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Argentines lack the English warmongering gene
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's true, the argies had the gene kicked out of them in 1982
Argentines have a mixture of murdering Spanish and cowardly Italian genes.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not a happy situation.
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Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See?
Exactly my point...
@11 Our Spanish and Italian genes make great looking women, unlike the scrubbers and wart hogs you twats have.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets not bring that gene up, Klingon. That's simply not fair....
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4. I'm sorry, but where are all these troop transport planes you refer to? I've had a look through the argie air force and army equipment inventories and I can't see anything capable of carrying more than about 75 passengers. Nor can I see anything capable of lifting a tank. When it comes to the Typhoons, you might want to remember that there are already 4. And the slightest sign of any sort of attack would probably see more leaving from the UK. Perhaps you might want to take account the capabilities of Typhoons AND their pilots. WHEN exactly is HMS Clyde 'days away'? Perhaps some research on these Chinese aircraft? Start with the J10. Pakistan signed a deal for 36 of these aircraft, that look remarkably like a Typhoon, in November 2009. They are still waiting. But then China has been accused of covering up statistics on the number that have crashed. Then there's the JF-17. It will take some time to supply. It's fitted with a Martin-Baker ejection seat. That'll have to come out. And have you read the specification and compared it to the Typhoon? The Typhoon's loaded weight is twice that of the JF-17. Something to do with munitions? The Typhoon is 180 mph faster. The Typhoon flies at least 10,000 feet higher. Compare number of hardpoints. The Typhoon has nearly twice as many. Have you worked out how many Typhoons/Tornados can be refuelled in the air by an RAF Voyager? Shall we say 4? The RAF has 14 Voyagers available. That'll be 56 Typhoons/Tornados arriving. Perhaps they'll 'spot' some Voyagers 2,000 miles each way from Ascension. Perhaps the Typhoons/Tornados will fly down the west coast of Africa and just need a refuelling 'spot' halfway between Ascension and the Falklands. Let's say 4 out there. Leaving the other 10 to transport troops at 300 per aircraft. And also refuel C-17s and A400Ms.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But I do agree that argies are well known for lies. Important to remember to shoot down/sink anything argie. Cruise ships/'research' vessels? Sink 'em. Aircraft? Destroy!
And here we have the blueprint gene bearer...
Mar 28th, 2015 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beauty is merely subjective, beauty is as they say, 'is in the eye of the beholder'.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Power is another matter.
Economic stabilty and the potential for a prosperous future is also quite attractive.
No wonder that the greatest desire amongst young Argentines and Venezuelans is to escape to Europe or the US to seek employment and marriage.
Or at least live in a country that is so messed up that its Air-Force is not permitted to fly on 'cloudy days'.
How embarrassing is that!
One doesn't need to make jokes about the Arg. Govt. Just wait for the next official press-release from these champions of 'self-foot shooting'... and have a good laugh.
Universally known as “the ugliest people on the planet”, I guess this is a... subject.... we all tend to agree on....
Mar 28th, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Teaboy
Mar 28th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“capable of para dropping troops and cargo such as tanks on to the islands.”
Accurately? Are these aircraft provided with a device that stops the prevailing South Westerlies?
Go figure.
“When they have their new fighter jets, as good as the typhoons are ”
Which ones exactly ? J10, Thunder?
What if they can't get these jets before Meteor enters service?
“therefore 18-24 jets against 2-3 typhoons won't be a long fight,”
Depends on their armament, but 18 jets (unless invisible to radar) are a bigger target than 3 aircraft. Also how much combat experience have Argentine pilots got recently?
If there is a British sub in the area, these jets might not have a runway to return to.
“Bear in mind they will have their jets before our aircraft carriers are operational as it be early 2020's before we have a full contingent of F35's for the Queen Elizabeth carrier alone.”
Aircraft carriers (with or without F35s) would take a few weeks to get to the Islands; a force of Tornados and Typhoons (etc) will reach the Islands within two days, i.e. well before 2020.
Do you think Typhoons sail to get to MPA?
“s it also won't take long to knock out the 1 Rapier unit ”
By air or ground forces?
“whilst their air force pound mount pleasant ready for the troops to capture it and the runaway. Which if intact can be used for their own aircraft to defend against our attempts to retake the islands.”
If their airforce pound the runway so Typhoons cannot take off, it's not going to be intact for their use, is it.
If they don't hit the runway, they'll find it difficult to attack Mt Pleasant if the Typhoons are operational.
And if they try to land aircraft on MPA they will have to approach the runway from the East which will give more chance of our guys using infantry weapons or Starstreak to take them down (i.e. without Typhoons, without Rapier).
Also how will they land if we barricade the runway? Will our lads unfurl a banner saying 'Please land here'?
#17 ilsen
Mar 28th, 2015 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's actually good that the UK is currently addressing the Falklands defense issues as apparently Argentina is aggressively increasing its offensive abilities as well by focusing on its national defense industry which will provide an economic stimulus and increased employment to rebuild its military.
FADEA Official News Release
Buenos Aires
March 25, 2015
Public Distribution
“Directors of the Argentina aircraft factory Fabrica Argentina de Aviones SA [Fadea] announced plans for significant revival of the company, by the purchase of all intellectual and design rights to build the famed Breda ba.88 Lince, as its primary fighter attack bomber, to be known as IA-15 whose first completion will be ready by early 2017. This aircraft will allow pilots to pass training in the mentor to the Pampa IA-63, an advanced trainer aircraft, receiving the modernization of its engine and avionics, to make it competitive in the new global aviation.”
As I have explained ad nauseam about this topic. Argentina has no serious plans in invading the FI and any other ally like China or Russia even less as the South Atlantic has null strategic value for them.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any comments like the ones here are just that or fantasy or the usual MP Argentina bashing comments.
If Argentina is interested in 3 generation air craft, my best guess is that it has more interest in leveling the power balance with neighboring southamerican powers and having a nominal air dominance over its own territory and borders.
Not even Britain is showing a real will to substantially enhance the islands defenses.
#3 Chris....I thoight I saw a mirage........when I saw a Mirage!
Mar 28th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahahahahahahaha
”Argentina can't even reach the Malvinas with men equipped for combat. Beyond any wish or fantasy of domestic policy, the 650 kilometers separating the Malvinas islands are an insurmountable barrier“, he added.
While true, that is certainly not a bragging point, that you intentionally turned your modest muscle into soft, repulsive fat.
As usual a lot of hot air from Argy ministers about what is not the issue and was not said, even suggesting British Gov policy is set by articles in the Sun no less. Yet again they try and divert from the real issues.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What Mr Fallon actually said was “The principle threat remains... the quite unjustified claim of Argentina to those Islands.”
Nothing about Argentina’s present military capabilities.
The issue, the threat, is Argentina’s continued “quite unjustified claim of to those Islands.”
With Argentina’s aggressive pursuit of those “quite unjustified claims”, with Economic blockades, harassing of fishing vessels, insulting and abusive language when referring to both the Islanders and the British and so on.
Not to mention the need for the British to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the other British territories in the region, from continued Argentine incursions and encroachments.
About the only thing the Argentine military has managed to do is maintain its presence in British Antarctic Territory. A presence which in the not too distant future will probably have to be removed, by force.
Ultimately it is no business of Argentina what the British do in British territory. One way or another they will have to come to terms with that.
@ 22 Captain Poppy
Mar 28th, 2015 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the argies would have more hope against the Falklands if they had a flock of Tweetie-Pies: at least they would stand a chance getting there!
@13, 14. Good idea not to mention that 'gene'. After a relatively short period, it has the same effect on argie women as it does on spanish and italian women. They become fat, ugly, shrill, desperate sows. CFK is an example. Seen the very few full length pictures where you can see the paunch. The turkey neck. By her own admission, the shovelfuls of 'foundation'. Haven't we all heard the screeches over the tv and radio? And seen the bandy legs?
Mar 28th, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18. You can't beat brains. 'Beautiful' argie women versus Margaret Thatcher. Never heard Galtieri & Co being called 'beautiful' before. Although they were undoubtedly 'women'. Much like most of the argie 'armed forces'. Apologies to proper women.
@21. Why have you 'explained ad nauseam about this topic'? Admitting, for the moment, that many of your comments make us nauseous, what do you hope to achieve? Are you in a position of authority in argieland? Can you make CFK go and shove it? Then quit trying to tell us not to be concerned. We believe what we see and hear. We see argieland desperately seeking the most up-to-date combat aircraft it can afford. For offence or defence against whom? Unable to pay your debts but buy aircraft at US$30 million a time? Putrid Jelly reckoned that argieland could take the Falklands but for the British garrison. Timoplonker reckons that the Islands will belong to argieland in 19 years. (Yep, we're counting). Then you come along. Just go away.
@23. I agree completely. Especially the need to remove argies from Antarctica. Just think. A proper nation travels from close to one pole of the planet to the other to conduct research. It GIVES a polar station to a sub-normal repressive state. A while later the same sub-normal state 'claims' territory of the proper nation. Check out illegal argie military activity in the Antarctic. Fortunately, British submarines can break through the ice and open fire.
It's not a great adea to officially let your South American neighbours know that you are not militarily capable of defending yourself...
Mar 28th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey it's cloudy all next week...let's attack Argentina....
We defend her, Voice.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we don't need military to do so.
Like last time you tried to invade Buenos Aires, you left running, leaving Montevideo in the process.
What happened to the Ingliss commander back then? I can't remember...
I do remember hearing the Charruan tales of how weird the Ingliss setup was, standing there waiting to be slaughtered. And the Ingliss complaining the Charruas fought with no honour...
;)
@27
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How far back do you have to go to feel proud of anything, the answer is a bloody long time.
Just pause for a thought and consider who the UK have been waging war with over the past 20 years, the Taliban, Isis and jihadis from everywhere, do you think that the battle hardened British forces are going to have any problem dealing with you lot, not to mention all the gadgets BAE systems will throw at you.........get real.
@13
Yes, we produce really ugly women don't we......get real again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed0EEVChvaw
25. Look Master Bumfighter. Dont take my word for it, neither the Argentine politicians, take your own politicians actions, not words.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0£ 180 million over ten years out y is something like 0,5% of UK defence in one single year.
What a fucking bunch of retards you all are... No common sence, no grasp of simple maths, no understanding of geopolitics no understanding of politics. Just a bunch of armchair soldiers.
@27
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you “really” talking about 1806-1807. Geez, the world has changed since then. The “Charruas” could invade us just using paddle boats.
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Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina wouldn't dare to invade the Falklands again, says Colonel Tim Collins
We should ignore the bluster and sabre-rattling, argues the Iraq war hero
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/11501211/Argentina-wouldnt-dare-to-invade-the-Falklands-again-says-Colonel-Tim-Collins.html
Getting past the Royal Navy would be a challenge. In the South Atlantic, the Royal Navy deploys at least one of the new Daring Class Type 45 destroyers. Doesn’t sound much; but with each one capable of tracking up to 1,000 targets from 400Km simultaneously and engaging up to 300 targets in layers from 120 km to 30 km (provided the targets are larger than a tennis ball)
In effect, if all the serviceable attack aircraft in all of Latin America – including Cuba – were attacking the Falklands, a Type 45 could cope comfortably.
Argentine Navy? With 17 war ships
The bulk of the navy is confined to port because of a lack of spares and engine problems. The ships’ on-board ordnance is past its sell-by date. There isn’t even the money for petrol to run the engines. One of the corvettes, Spiro (P 43), is out of service having run aground. So is one of the elderly submarines, Santa Cruz. The Submarine fleet has achieved a grand total of 19 hours of submerged training since 2012 against a minimum requirement of 190 days.
Training is very poor. The list of disasters is endless. The Sarandi – one of the destroyers – managed to damage the Brazilian Frigate Rademaker by firing on her during joint naval exercises, injuring four Brazilian sailors and an Argentine observer when her fire control system went haywire.
The Destroyer Santisima Trinidad capsized and sank at anchor due to poor maintenance. the ships up to 40 years old and with the RN’s submarine fleet not even considered.
@31
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look Briton, even if we had the military might to do such an operation, that would still be strategically stupid.
Mess with NATO at this point?
Well, you can expect something that stupid from the kirchnerite mindset. Stupidity and Peronism go hand in hand.
Don't shoot the messenger, read the paper.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry if it came through the wrong way. Far from trying to shoot you, I was trying to prove a point.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's reel back to 1982. Some drunkards decided to take a chance on the Malvinas cause. Cornered animals tend to do strange stupid things. I wouldn't dismiss the kirchnerites wasting the few remaining shots in a stupid crusade.
Once stupid people are in power, they'll resort to stupid actions to remain there.
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Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...“Like last time you tried to invade Buenos Aires, you left running, leaving Montevideo in the process.”
Interesting Stevie...that you think I invaded Buenos Aires....I can assure you that I didn't, nor did any of my ancestors...
I'm also guessing that you didn't defend Buenos Aires and I'll take a stab in the dark here...that nor did any of your ancestors....
...so where does that leave us....?...;-)
No Voice, I don't think you'd be able to invade anything.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry if I got you going....
@27, 36,
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie,
Are you still talking about sh1t that went down at least 209 years ago?
You still do sound like a stupid Peronist on steroids.
Get a grip.
You want my attention, don't you?
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, Like I can expect any sort of sensible debate with you ... Keep trying ... and while you're at it, GFY
Conqueror: “Although they were undoubtedly 'women'. Much like most of the argie 'armed forces'”?:
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The 13,000 Argentine defenders ... were well-prepared and equipped with modern weapons, including the very latest night vision goggles. When the two sides clashed, the conscripts fought well against the 10,500 British professionals ranged against them, and in some prolonged firefights inflicted serious casualties on the invaders” (Historical Dictionary of Naval Intelligence By Nigel West)
“After the Battle of Two Sisters on 11/12 June, a senior NCO said, ”They were good steadfast troops, I rate them.“ High praise indeed coming from a sergeant-major in the Royal Marines” (The FN FAL Battle Rifle By Robert Cashner)
“Many Argentines acquitted themselves valiantly in battle, as the long list of posthumous medals for bravery in the Official Report of the Argentine Army indicates” (Mates and Muchachos: Unit Cohesion in the Falklands-Malvinas War By Nora K Stewart)
@40
Mar 28th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alberto, I'm sure that most of our troops fought for what it seemed rightful at the time.
True story. I was 12 at the time and forcefully mandated to pray over 15' so our troops would kill as many brits as they could.
Malvinas hurts. Not so much because its current sovereign status. It hurts because I was fooled at an early age to follow some lunatics' rants about patriotism.
To me. patriotism is about providing opportunities to let citizens improve themselves and let them thrive into providing for their families.
What on earth does Malvinas cater for us in 2015?
#31 Briton
Mar 28th, 2015 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You evaluation of the Argentine armed forces barely covers the tip of the iceberg.
The army can't even give away it's tanks.
The Air Force has few airworthy jets.
The Navy's ships are so poorly maintained that even he sea worthy vessels have tremendous reliability problems related to their power plants.
I would be amazed if they have one working Exocet in their arsenal.
Their tall masted ship is a real beauty, but limited to what ports she can visit.
@42
Mar 28th, 2015 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo, always a pleasure to see you around. Your prognosis is more that accurate. Lest we forget the “idiot” factor well weaved within the our rg worldview.
Does General Menendez ring a bell?
We've produced more idiots than you could think of. At the current state of affairs, I wouldn't doubt that some really far fetched crazy ideas are brewing inside that bitch's mind and her acolytes.
Let's keep it tight for just a few months. I'd certainly keep an on-going alert on the kirchnerites. They are now in control of the RENAR (national registry for firearms) and they are also in charge of FM (Fabricaciones Militares - gunpowder and munition factories).
The least I would expect is for a civil war to start soon. Whatever my expectations are, it is always hard to assert what crazy people would do.
The least thing we need is an armed conflict. This is just me. Just a BA peasant trying to figure out how things could turn out.
“We've produced more idiots than you could think of.”
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Me lo juras?
:))
“”“”“”“Argentines lack the English warmongering gene...”“”“”“”
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell that to the patagonians..
oh yeah, you cant - you wiped them out.
poor little indigenes, wiped out by the mean and nasty european squatters (commonly known as “argentinains”)
Another of your products joined the thread....
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're so shallow. Put that thing inside your head bones to work for you. Then may be we can have a meaningful conversation.
'Till then ... enjoy your self-pleasuring rituals.
Meaningful conversation? Here on MP?
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About what? Unicorns?
What's the problem? You choose your venue, I'll sure be there.
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you wanna talk about? What's beating so desperately in your chest? And why you feel the need to discuss it with me??
Mar 28th, 2015 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your posts here on MP says it all, you pretend to be Argentine and choose to bash Argentina and Argentines alike on a site created to bash “your” country and most of those around it.
That makes me believe us two have little to talk about...
Dear friend, I've lived here since I was born. I was lucky enough to get some perspective on myself and the community around me.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0We sure got a lot to talk about.
You get offended at reality.
This is a basic trait in all of us Argentinians. This country is to me the people I love, the people I grew up with, the ideas and rhythms that dented my life.
I've traveled Argentina east-west, north-south.
It almost seems that you have no idea what things are like.
Would you be willing to meet at a cafe somewhere and have a down-to-earth discussion about what patriotism should be like?
Why are you on MP, Tarquin? Answer that simple question first?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did your perspective bring you here? Was it patriotism?
Or indeed the people you love and grew up with?
Beyond any wish or fantasy of domestic policy, the 650 kilometers separating the Malvinas islands are an insurmountable barrier“, he added.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0650 km! There we have it, the official distance declared by the Argentine government.
So much for the ‘proximity’ argument.
But the trolls who spout their crap on MP tell us that the Falkland’s are a ‘stone’s throw’ from the Argentine mainland??
Some stone! Some thrower! They must be Patagonia stone throwers.
Daniel Gallo, analysis of la nación, representant of the Argentine government, according to... let me scroll up... yes, downunder.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0From way down under...
Starbucks anyone....no one ever wants to meet me....
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0...is it something I said.....
@52
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dude, may be I'm here just venting, and maybe I'm so naive as not to have any political agenda like you do.
I just wonder, where do u reside exactly?
'cuz if you walk any of these streets like I do, you're either deluded or drunk
Here, have a hug, Voice.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someday you'll meet her.
Oh well at least I can rule out Stevie pretending to be Tarquin Fin....
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0They posted at exactly the same time....
...one down dozens to go....;-)
Shit man! Is this what it all comes down to?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which political agenda would that be, Tarquin?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is good to wonder, makes your head sharp.
No deal.
Oh boy, you tryin' to get me hooked there. No luck whatsoever ...
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where do you live, you little piece of sh..t?
@Tarquin Fin
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dont bother with Stevie, he is the son of a tupamaro terrorist and he is from somewhere in Scandinavia. He supports Chavista and filo Chavista governments in SouthAmerica and pretends to be Uruguayo, but he isn’t. He will even question you as an Argentine.
He claims to know all things about this corner of the world from a quick hand in Goggle, but that hasn’t prevented him from saying that “Soy cordobes” de Rodrigo is cumbia villera.
Leave him he is just a redumdant troll.
Of course that's what it comes down to....
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You didn't really think that all the verbal diatribe on MP actually meant something or changes one iota or influences anyone's opinions....
Most folk on here appear to have an agenda that won't be assuaged by debate...
63.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nonsense since I pointed out that £ 180 million to be invested in RAF Mt Pleasant (to be spent over the next 10 years) is something like 0,5% of UK defense budget in one single year nobody (save crazy Briton ) everybody has shut up
@62
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks CD. He sure sounded like one damned broken ass Monto. Scandinavia is he from? No wonder he wouldn't understand what it is like to sort through those delinquennts at Constitucion valley when trying to get on to the C line.
@63
Thanks you too Voice. I really didn't expect much from this forum. Just like I said before, I'm mostly venting but also trying to imbue some sense into those blind third rate socialist regime's defenders. Time will tell. I do really need to get this out of my chest now. It's either that or a sure stroke.
Hahahaha
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just look at Cabeza Dura!
He simply wondered too much :)
@66
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you still have the nerve to show up around here? What have you accomplished in life other than very sophisticated wanking skills?
64
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha...you are definitely not a Brit....yeah they shut up cause that's like paying them a compliment, they are proud of what they spend on defence...the more that is wasted on the Falklands the happier they are...
The Yanks are the same...
#43 TF
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0For Argentina's sake, let's hope the voters throw out the Peronists and embrace civilization again. There are good Argentinians and your country has them potential to regain its position, but only after removing the current government.
The nerve? Here?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Check the top, boy.
See?
Montevideo.
@70 - Stevie
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've just stopped making any sense at all. You must be drunker than I am just right now. Go pee and then right to sleep babe!
@69 - Chicureo
Every thought is a prayer, every word is a spell ... Thanks!
Me...me ...waving hand furiously..
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0..I get it...Stevie is from Montevideo...
you said he had a nerve being here....
MercoPress is based in Montevideo...
Stevie picks up and looks at his turds and searches the face of Chavez in them
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Voice you bugger, sometimes you remind me of a moonfisher I know...
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tarquin, you should drink more often
@73 CD2
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have long been warned of the dangers about contemplating ones very own dumps. It is a risky business nonetheless I guess. CD, I recall you are from Cordoba, am I right?
@72 Voice
Is Stevie running MercoPress?
75
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was just making sense of his comment...for your enlightenment and edification...
Oh man, this one is dumber than usual...
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are gonna have good laughs you and I....
75.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, and see know why and how it has affected Stevie??
Im from the province yes, not Cordoba capital.
@78
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cordoba is lovely, all over! Good for you. I've been looking for years to get some piece of land near Cerro Pelado.
@74 Stevie
I would drink every day if I could. Would you please talk my wife into the benefits of it? She could be just a bitch sometimes ...
@76 Voice
I still can't figure it out. Please advice.
Well, all the area west and east is over priced... Dont buy now.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 079
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0yeah you can...I know when I'm being played...
..a Uruguayan commenting on a Uruguayan website being told by an Argentinian that they have a nerve to be there....
@80 CD2
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0That makes sense. Thanks.
34 Tarquin:
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Let's reel back to 1982. Some drunkards decided to take a chance on the Malvinas cause. Cornered animals tend to do strange stupid things.”
And:
“To me. patriotism is about providing opportunities to let citizens improve themselves and let them thrive into providing for their families.
What on earth does Malvinas cater for us in 2015?”
I could not have said it better.
Obviously, Argentine governments need to continue to assert the country's claim on the islands, however I seem to remember CFK has said she wants only peaceful negotiations.
@13 Klingon
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK not included I take it?
@83
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique
Peaceful negotiations about what?
We were deflowered in 1833 ... Arg did nothing for over 50 years ... now we “peacefully” claim: “Hey you shit ... this land is ours!!!”
There's an old chinese adage that goes: “You snooze, you loose”
Just look at the facts Enrique, we Argies love to play the victim role, but do very little to improve ourselves.
For any practical purposes, “Malvinas” is clearly out of our league. We'd rather focus on improving our living standards than looking out on a fantasy lost cause.
@3
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0And yet you see them as a threat.
I agree wih you, how pathetic can YOU be huh? Only you can answer.
@86
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Me veras volar
por la ciudad de la furia
donde nadie sabe de mi
y yo soy parte de todos.
Nada cambiara
con un aviso de curvas
ya no hay fabulas
en la ciudad de la furia
Me veras caer
como un ave de presa
me veras caer
sobre terrazas desiertas
te desnudare
por las calles azules
me refugiare
antes que todos despierten
Me dejaras dormir al amanecer
entre tus piernas
entre tus pirenas
Sabras ocultarte bien
y desaparecer
entre la niebla
entre la niebla
un hombre aladao
extraña la tierra
Me veras volar por la ciudad de la furia
donde nadie sabe de mi
y yo soy parte de todos
Con la luz del sol
se derriten mis alas
solo encuentro en la obscuridad
lo que me une
con la ciudad de la furia
Me veras caer
como una flecha salvaje
me veras caer
entre vuelos fugaces
Buenos Aires se ve
tan susceptible
ese destino de furia es
lo que sus caras persisten
Me dejaras dormir al amanecer
entre tus piernas
entre tus piernas
Sabras ocultarte bien
y desaparecer
entre la niebla
entre la niebla
un hombre alado
extraña la noche
What can I answer?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Crua Chan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unNkOoTQaNI
Jajaja!!
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0How old are you Troll?
Awesome!!
I know my 80s.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viejos Vinagres?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 090.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I believed you were the type listening to Raly Barrionuevo & smoking pot with hippies in Mina Clavero...
God bless you troll, people that have being to John Bohener's office condemn you and you just dont give a f*ck.
Thats cool.
Raly Barrionuevo? John Bohener?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0CD, who are these people?
I can relate to hippies wasting it out in Mina Clavero ... but I'm certainly blind about the rest of your remarks.
Maybe you should all petition for 120.9 Troll FM to come back. Censored by Mercopress for over a year now.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 093.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I dont agree on anything with Toby
But some over the top dog bureaucrat here that lectures Toby all the time on what should he do and what he should not do and “I know the world” and you this and that. Even does a physocolgy test on him
Haha
Toby doesnt care less. He just trolls a bit and fucks off, I just imagine him happy smoking pot away while he comments.
@ Toby
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that would would be 90's Toby, but still...folk metal - WTF?! If the trolling gig doesn't work out for you, you'd make a pretty good DJ.
Let Tim Collins answer the question.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/11501211/Argentina-wouldnt-dare-to-invade-the-Falklands-again-says-Colonel-Tim-Collins.html
The most telling map in the history of humanity.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Countries the UK has invaded or tried to invade:
http://rebloggy.com/post/britain-hetalia-war-map-empire-invasion-world-map-british-empire-are-you-ponderi/86800641918
Verás
Mar 29th, 2015 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cambiará
Desnudaré
Refugiaré
Dejarás
To sum up, Tarquin, you are just another CabezaDura, a quasi-Argentine with dubioous Spanish, bashing Argentina on a Uruguayan website.
Many Argentines would and will critizice their country. Very few would do so in Uruguayan media in front of agressive British spectators...
A for your wife being a b... I hope drinking more really does it for you
#88
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have lost the thread here.
#87 Posts an enigmatic poem in Spanish and you reply with a video of an Irish band whose name is the war cry of the Campbell clan.
This group give a biased anti-English song about the Jacobite rising forgetting or omitting the fact that more Scots were against the rising than were for it AND that there were regiments of Scots...including Highlanders,(Campbells))....on the govt. side at Culloden.
I am rather surprised at your liking for this song as you proffer a hatred of all things European and the Irish appear more European focussed than the British.
100
Mar 29th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Clyde..that is not an Irish band...that is Sumo an Argentine underground band of the 80's that had a habit of singing songs in English...
Cruachan is the name of the song and we both know Cruachan is in our neck of the woods...Hydro scheme at Loch Awe, have you ever been in the little tour bus that takes you into the heart of Ben Cruachan...interesting experience I did many moons ago...
#90 paginia boi.....you weren't even a cum stain in the 80's...................lol.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 099.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie again in google auto correct mode ??? TF is Argentine as Dulce de leche.
I have explained you, little faggot. We dont use accents all the time when you are wrighting and the lyrics of the song “Ciudad de la furia” are copy pasted by TF.
Go and tell them they are not Argentine. LOL dumbarse!!
@100
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that you have been disabused, your post reads like a tragi-comedy,
Well congratulations on once again proving my point about “European” education, and in particular Anglo knowledge of other cultures, music, writers, etc. Non-existent. Your life scope is so limited and narrow it is not even worth to make fun of.
Imagine only listening to rock bands from only one English county, or readings books from authors from one single village. That's the analogy of the Anglo scope on life vs most people in the rest of the world.
Sad existence and you will die not know 90% of the great things of this world.
Even street dogs in Argentina will know more of the world.
@29. Drunk again? £180 million over 10 years is £18 million a year. The current UK defence budget is £45.6 billion. It works out to less than 0.04%.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40. Yeah, right. You don't know much about British armed forces, do you? Especially NCOs and commissioned officers. We ALWAYS say things like that. We said it about the Zulus after Rorke's Drift. French and Spanish after Trafalgar. French after Waterloo. Germans after WW1. Germans after the Battle of Britain. Germans after WW2. We say it after we've won. Just to remind ourselves of how good we are.
@43. Just as a matter of interest, because it's long in the past, let me mention the Battle of Rorke's Drift. over 22-23 January 1879. 139-141 British Army regulars, 11 colonial troops and 4 civilians defended the mission station against 3,000 to 4,000 Zulus. Now, replace the British troops with argentines. Want to guess the likely result?
@53. I don't understand why 650 kilometres should be such an insurmountable barrier. As I recall, Pacific Islanders used to paddle thousands of kilometres. But argies can't paddle across the Argentine Sea?
@83. How come you never explain what argieland's 'claim' is. We've destroyed every attempt any argie has made. There will be NO negotiations.
@87. English please. It's part of the rules.
@98. Look at you. It's right there in front of you and you still can't type
B-R-I-T-A-I-N. Too long for you? But thanks for the map. Gives me a nice warm feeling. Have you got a map showing all the territories we've given away? Or back? Got something similar for your country? Oh no, you took. Then you kept on taking.
@99. Oh diddums. Someone with at least ten times your intelligence upset you, have they?
“Even street dogs in Argentina will know more of the world.”
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pagina boi, who is telling you that from the safe and comfortable life you live in Canada? Just think, if you still lived in Argentina, you would be one of those dogs.
All that you need to know of Argentina and the 80's is that the Brit's waxed your asses, handed your ass back to you and turned Argentina's military into flaky shit. And never forget, being as polite as they are, they did say.....“thank you, but no thank you”.
Where's your manner's pagina boi? Think you will ever see Argentina again?
@106
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? All I need to know. Well that's good to know. But no thanks, I don't want to be you, with the education level of a 2nd grade drop-out, whose knowledge of Argentina doesn't even include who Borges was.
What a good Anglo you are. Less knowledgeable than a slug.
Ewwwwwww.....I quake in awe of your insults!!
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PS
You dumb fuck I just pulled “Jorge Luis Borges” paperback book of my shelf.
“The Gold of the Tigers” Selected later poems .
So take you bullshit elsewhere.
PPS
I got it during my Spanishing learning days, it's a bilingual edition. So now do us all a favor and climb up your ego and commit suicide.
So where were we? Have you found that street the farmers protested on in Mendoza? The building? A place to describe to gain some credibility that you come from Mendoza? Even though we all know you reside in Canada.
106
Mar 29th, 2015 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You like with the AIIB, where the Brits told Uncle Sam thanks but no thanks and turned to China?
Polite as they are ;)
CabezaDura, don't project your ignorance on others. The fact that you can't spell in Spanish is not the fault of the masses.
You like with the AIIB
Mar 29th, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the fuck does that mean?
First off little Stevie........the thing you commies will never understand or control is free will. Shall I finish my point from here or can you get the jist of where I am heading with free will?
You mean like the US telling Australia, S.Korea and Japan not to sign the AIIB, only to get told to sod off?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love that kind of free will :)
100
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't feel too bad Clyde...what Toby isn't telling you is...that particular band were influenced by British/Euain band Joy Division...
...and the guy that formed it and wrote the lyrics was an Italian heroin addict that used to hang out with Joy Division ......another damn Euian...
It is what it is......do you think I care what the USA tells to whom? You think the USA is not allowed to exert their opinion or our allies allowed to make their own choices? SA all fall into line.....the free does what is in their best interests, SA countries does whats in the best interests of their leaders wallets. Where are you living now ? Canada.......Netherlands? Sweden?
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Pagina boi.....for you:
http://s304.photobucket.com/user/mcher1160/library/?sort=3&page=1
Unlike you tobi, I can support what I say.
@90
Mar 29th, 2015 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Toby, I confused the name of song with the name of the band. An 80's artifact it is indeed.
Pop, from here it seems like Europe fell out of line, but hat could just be me...
Mar 29th, 2015 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
#101
Mar 29th, 2015 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, but my uncle worked on it's construction.
#104
Why should I have wasted my time listening to a piss poor “rock band”.
The only decent rock bands were “anglos”. No Latam/Hispanics were any use at it.
As to literature I have read French literature ...in French, some Indian, Japanese, Chinese, German, Italian, Russian, Icelandic, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Greek etc but nothing Argentinian as I don't believe anything worthwhile emanated from that place. Your postings have only reinforced that belief.
As to dying and only knowing 10% of the things in the world, I take that as a complement as I would have put it at o.oooo1% at a guess
Google has counted the total number of books in the world arriving at a total of 129,864,880.
So you have read 116,878,392 books. Even for someone with a super ego like you have, that is most impressive.
Also the music and art you have heard and seen on your world travels must put us all in the shade.
Basically you are a parochial, bumptious bullshitter and that is me giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Completing 3 soft covers would put you in the shade....
Mar 29th, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0113
Mar 29th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Pops I see my name on the Globe...did you do that for me....thanks very much.
Nice to see you looking a healthy.....5'10 maybe 230 pounds is my guess.
Also looking decidedly Mediterranean....
Meanwhile, back on blogg,
Mar 29th, 2015 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something I noticed in the times replies, true or not, it was interesting.
It might encourage a few sentiments,
• The British Army has served alongside the Argentine contingent (regular army/marines) in the Cyprus United Nations operation UNFICYPT for quite some time now, the opinion of them being that they motivated and well trained. A Australian Federal Police senior officer (a former regular army commando officer) made comment to me recently when he returned after a 12 month tour, that the Argy troops were far more switched on, and fit, than the three British Army Reserve units that came through whilst he on the island
Equally, in other UN operations similar comments have been made by other armed forces.
Since the current US administration the Argentine armed forces have received a great deal of training and combat support equipment such as parachutes and airdrop equipment, helicopters, FM radios and the list goes on. Equally China has been giving immense amounts of support, financial, technical, physical and moral over recent years.
It soldiers are now all volunteers, of a high physical standard, and a good quality of education. The various corps training schools turn out motivated fit young soldiers, led by well trained corporals and senior NCOs. Equally their officers are of a similar standard. The army is vastly different to that of 1982.
Apart from normal exercises, every combat unit also attends a battle school for a 2 or 3 week course each year. According to a US Marine Corps officer they are virtually clones of those run by the French Army, and the training is tough and appropriate. A lot of the army's training is imaginative, and is training for war not counter-insurgency.
Their special forces are all trained on French army or the Navy's Fusiler Marin's principles.
In every way it is a different force to that of 1982.
If the Argentines want to play at soldiers, all they have to do is make a special forces raid on the Falkland’
I did and forgot to post it. Just over 6 and 210. Russian descent. At my age I can't work out the way I Once did.....with a few career related injuries.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique I am hardly hiding behind a nickname. My email says it all. I gave where I live.......what more do you want.......to met me? I fear little so I'm game. My point to all you so called RGs who support the kirchner way.......never seem to live there. The liars who claim that they do live in Argentina seem to not know any identifiable landmarks.....or streets. You are comfortable in Canada because Canada is a successful market based ecomony.....so I can't blame you for not going back to Argentina.......though it makes you somewhat of a hypocrit.
How many of you so-called Argentines actually live in Argentina? Come on, man up and admit it. You don't have to of course but it's your credibility not mine.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Captain Poppy says: it's a bit hypocritical if you're living in North America, Austalia or Europe whilst slagging off those countries and explaining how Argentina is better than them. Fair enough, I ackowledge that Toby doesn't say Argentina is better but quite a few of you do.
Credibility check anyone?
Camper dogs/Kswine/perronistas cadre in disarray. LOL.
Mar 29th, 2015 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rotting roadkill partisan snakes are eating their own tails.
Sweet.
@103
Mar 29th, 2015 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks CD. Not as sweet as Dulce de Leche but definitely Argentinian. Born in Bell Ville by the way.
I cannot understand why the Brits are so eager for the Argentinians to execute any sort of military action. Its not going to happen and is irrelevant to the return by the UK of the Malvinas within 25 rears.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0One thing to remember is whatever the Argentine government and puppet media state, we should believe the opposite.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0One way to postpone / prevent the elections would be in a time of crisis e.g. a war. Could be CFK's last roll of the dice.
PS Some gossip doing the rounds is Russian special forces training local SF in Argentina.
@124:“Its not going to happen...”
Mar 30th, 2015 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that's the case, then there should be no objection to Britain considering the defenses of the Falklands, as is in our rights as the legitimate holders of sovereignty.
“...and is irrelevant to the return by the UK of the Malvinas within 25 rears.”
Can't “return” what wasn't yours to begin with. Stop lying.
It's far more likely that within those 25 years, we'll see Argentina do the right thing at last and drop their fake claim to British territory.
We'll all be waiving...
Mar 30th, 2015 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Argentina's best path is to end its harassment of the islands, just quietly drop the matter from official business (if really needed just press a small memo every year reaffirming there is a ”dispute), and then end diplomatic relations with the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, and possibly Australia. We should not have relations with racist, nazi-ideological nations.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0128. Nobody would miss Argentina and your on that path anyway. If you get another K Ish Prez all Intl mfgs will pull out, along with the banks and exporters.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope the slum dwellers turn out in force and elect another KThug to office.
I hear Indec had a bit of a rounding error in their trade balance, they're saying US60MM positive and the import/export group says - U$760MM gee I wonder who do believe.
:)
Notice I never said you would miss us.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For you is net zero + or -. For us is a major plus morally, not to engage with a culture that embraces Nazi racial values.
Except Argentina is the most racist and thuggish country I've ever experienced.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Truly a horrible Society.
How are the strikes going today? Sounds lovely.
You can say whatever you want, you can even say we are thuggish, but more racist than you? Never.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You think any non-American is inferior, you think any non-Anglo is a lesser dog. You are a sad sad people and we want nothing to do with you.
Toby, I lived there a long time and I have never seen racism like I saw in your country. If you have darker skin you are a pariah in your country. I litterally saw a old Peruvian or Bolivian lady pushed off of a bus because she was dark and indian looking. I also had to pay extra to get a mulatto friend of mine into the discos! They wouldn't let him in because he was dark skinned.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also remember the skin heads in Belgrano beating up Jews.
Argentinians are not liked anywhere in the world, you're egotistical with delusions of grandeur yet also have bad shoes/clothes greasy hair and bad manners and are too narcissistic to realize people are making fun of you.
Our cops don't kill darkies, yours do. Sorry.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And a beatdown is better than a lynching, me thinks.
Can't win, your history, your present, and what you just wrote betray you (read your last paragraph, as Nazi and racist as they come).
But you do know about the subject 'not being liked anywhere in the world', people would kill you on the spot in half the nations of the world if you carried your nation's flag. Says a lot about what you've done to others in the last 50 years (it wasn't like that before the 1960s).
134
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our cops dont kill enough darkies Im afraid.
:´-((((
Argentinian police torture them before they kill them
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a94_1342802010
I've told you many times before Argentinian is not a race.
I really wonder if you've ever been to Argentina. More and more I think not.
As long as I am 100% genetically not European, I don't care about the rest. Thank goodness I'm not stained.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah okay. I've also never been to a place where so many naturally dark people have fake blue eyes and blond (really a weird orangy color) hair.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must be one of the very very very few Rgs that like to be dark.
Good for you.
Probably hard to get a job though...
I've never seen anyone with fake blue eyes.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've seen fake blondes of course.
I've also seen tons and tons of American tourist with their horrible liquid tans. You can first smell them from a kilometer away, and then spot them from everyone else by their neon glow.
You're not looking very hard if you've not seen the fake blue eyes. They're all over the place.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And again I really don't think you've live there
You really don't know much about the country or the people.
You sense of what they really are is delusional.
Perfect example of an upper class Rg women is the disgusting Arg Ambassador to the USA. She looks like she needs a bath. Its no wonder nobody will meet with her.
If Singer makes them sell that Embassy complex they're going to have to fumigate it first.
yeah yeah yeah.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hear other countries may start charging the US and the UK for unclogging the sewers due to all the liquid tanning blocking the pipes, and the fried food you and the Brits gorge on that create this:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/06/209487575/fatberg-15-ton-lump-of-lard-removed-from-london-sewer
yumm.... you put that inside your guts!
141. You're kinda stuck on that story aren't you. You bring it up a lot. What's your fascination with it?
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would respond by saying at least we have sewers and don't have raw sewage running down the streets like its the 1200s. Do they just throw it out the windows in all the slums? Yes, yes they do.
And that millions upon millions of people in your country
millions upon millions
I hope they all vote K
yanqui
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AIIB
Bye bye dollar ;)
143. Your last mental break lasted a pretty long time. It seems your breaks are getting longer and deeper.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no trouble with countries setting up banks. I wish the USA would pull out of IMF IDB WB IFC UN OAS and all the other Int'l do nothing orgs. We certainly don't need to be funding other countries growth and development. The money would be better spent further building up our military.
I agree :)
Mar 30th, 2015 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0137 STroll with the_TroLL
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As long as I am 100% genetically not European, I don't care about the rest. Thank goodness I'm not stained.”
Nostrils,
You have said you are:
- NOT European
- NOT Amerindian
you have made racist remarks against
- blacks
- Asians
I suppose that leaves
- Middle Eastern!
You have made discriminating remarks about
- Muslims
You have said your brother speaks and writes HEBREW fluently.
YOU ARE JEWISH
How about Timerman covering up for the AMIA bombing??
Tobi what .....no response to Borges and the picture?
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”yanqui
AIIB
Bye bye dollar ;)“
I see people buying lottery tickets by the hundreds believing that they will be millionaires, that is who you remind me of. Something between that and chicken little.
You are like a Jets fan........”this is our year for the big one”......better....a White Sox fan. As much as you wish and want it to happen, it won't because the USA is a market system.
yeah poor “we are all Chavez” Stevie. Its got to be hard when reality just doesn't live up to the delusions.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am happily watching Venezuela's Socialist Dream die a long horrible and painful death.
Just like I said it would...
@146
Mar 30th, 2015 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As we've previously learned, L. Ron Tobi believes genetics has got something to do with the number of languages one speaks.
L.Ron Tobi......I love that.....an instant classic. L. Ron Tobi also believes everything he reads, except when it applies to Argentina, the land he does not live in. And he takes a snippet of news/information and applies it to the whole.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How simple, yet unremarkable his thinking works was perplexing at one time. But we all now know that it is his way.....simple, plain and ordinary. Of course with big feet and a misogynist transsexual.....but he admitted. Being he lives in Canada he should just sneak into Cuba and get that sex change. Maybe they will let him back into Argentina........regardless of his age. Right Enrique?
@141 NOSTRILS TOBI
Mar 30th, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Reply??
Are you Jewish?
If you are, you are betraying your own people by supporting Timerman and CFK who are allowing a coverup of the ARGENTINE JEWS, murdered by IRANIAN MUSLIMS - all for money!!!
Oh no...Troy Tempest is back from his sulk...
Mar 30th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll have to set Heisenberg on him....;-)
Like i care what an avowed racist and a self-righteous hypocrite have to say...
Mar 30th, 2015 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where's your proof boy...I'm still waiting....;-)))))
Mar 30th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australian signed (what? How!!)
Mar 30th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0S.Korea signed.
Brazil signed.
Denmark signed.
Bloody neutral Switzerland signed.
“Interesting project in the new world order” (not my words)
Two pariah states are held out
North Korea and
US of A
“15-Ton 'Lump Of Lard' Removed From London Sewer”
Mar 30th, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So CFK was visiting with her ambassador...?
Tuesday is deadline, heck I reckon USA will want to join :)))
Mar 30th, 2015 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russia signed.
Turkey signed.
NATO members, vasal states and foes alike, they are rush to China :))))
I really wish somebody would take the time and diagram out which “sistah” posts on what subject and when.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's got to be a method to the madness
got to be
I wonder what its like to live in a place that every form of public transportation and business goes on strike for days at a time.
Gotta be weird.
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Mar 30th, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still waiting for your speeding ticket image ...
Voice is driving from Pearson he'll be in Central PA in 3 hrs.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
yanqui
Mar 30th, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China's days might be counted, but for sure, you can't count that far :))
Anytime now, right?
Hahahahaha!!
I'm amazed that the RG air force cannot flow in cloudy weather. I didn't think that they can fly at all. Isn't there a rubber band shortage?
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry about it, Pops, all is at it should be...
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Help me out here, what's a founding member, and how does that differ from a normal member?
Do I get more information or is this a quiz? Founding member of what? Provide a little more and maybe I can answer you when I get back from the gym.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You missing the party? Right, you aren't invited....
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Finland are next to join, deadline tomorrow.
Oh, and the Netherlands joined too...
I'm truly amazed about the UK, it's true what that old guy said (was it Churchill?)
“England has no permanent friends or permanent enemies. Only permanent interests.”
Or something like that.
:)
Yes, I know, somebody else said it first...
I'm guessing this Pops....
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK caught on the wrong side in a US/Beijing dispute over Chinese development bank
The US has expressed concern over the UK's bid to become a FOUNDING member of a Chinese-backed development bank. The UK is the first big Western economy to apply for membership of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) despite the fact that US has raised questions over the bank's commitment to international standards on governance.
Hey Pops
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even on cloudy days...
;)
The gym Pops...?
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise I was only kidding when I said 230 lbs...
Stevie.....you get a chubby over Chinn banks? You seem like it. Get some relief. It's not you bank......lol. you know I'm a military man.....you think I am political? My politics was a bit more physical.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We both know where it's heading from here. And your physical approach isn't bloody helping, is it. the more you try, the more isolated you get.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only Japan left now, as soon as they apply, which they will have to, or be left out alone in the zone, the U.S. soft power is gone in Asia.
You think they join tomorrow? Tonight?
Or have they already applied?
Maybe you should leave the gym and... I don't know... Hit somebody?
Wipe my ass stevie....it's. Sweaty from the bike.. this is nothing......but it is for you. I'm happy for you...
Mar 30th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.maybe now you can move back to SA.
Seems the Chinese are already wiping it.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, I know you not a politician, and as you're not an economist either, I'm gonna try to I explain the impact this will have on the dollar.
In a language you do understand.
This is shite for the dollar. It's like a punch to Ben Franklins right eye...
Of course stevie........you're like a pulp fiction novel. Keep saying it.......keep wishing. One day your prince will come. In the meantime take care of your chubby. When the dollar is gone I will kiss your ass in Kenmore Square. I know you hate the usa I get that.........and still jealous....understandable. so keep talking as I know it is cathartic for you. I support your therapy.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Mar 30th, 2015 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice....don't you know how sensitive I am? I took it to heart and decided to battle my winter bulge. You know how us sensitive types ate......you can see that in my face.
Mar 30th, 2015 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing wrong with a bit of winter padding Pops..keeps you warm and easy enough to shift in spring when we all come out of hibernation and embrace the new season...;-)
Mar 31st, 2015 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0173 Captain Poppy
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0You probably remember STEVIE recounting his days as a Supa Tupa, a noble contemporary of Pepe, relishing torturing “US operatives” or such.
That would have made him about 70, now.
THEN he was berating you for being “old” at 50 years. Remember?
Then he back pedaled to say it was his parents that were the Tupas.
Started off saying he was exiled to Scandinavia during Operation Condor - Then he was a bit muddy about details, but said he lived in rural Uruguay.
STEVIE was always rubbing the success of Chavism in our faces - now, he says nothing about the 'Economic Miracle' that is Maduro.
Of course, he used to be “Guzz” as well - until he was bounced.
STEVIE is a second-rate faker and a jealous hater - nothing more.
More news on stevie's little darling Maduro, here;
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://panampost.com/sabrina-martin/2015/03/20/venezuela-orders-first-graders-to-denounce-us-imperialism/
”The Venezuelan government has sent out memos to schools across the country, requiring that schoolchildren write a letter of protest against US President Barack Obama’s declaration that Venezuela is “national security threat” to the United States.
Venezuela’s Education Ministry issued the orders on March 11 for its regional and municipal offices to celebrate an “anti-imperialist day” in all schools, after Obama’s executive order of March 9. The recommendations were to be followed “without excuses.”
Nice, commanding school children to perform a hate-crime, not!
Without excuses, eh? So what happened to 'freedom of speech'??
Much more here http://panampost.com/sabrina-martin/2015/03/20/venezuela-orders-first-graders-to-denounce-us-imperialism/ , in fact, a whole bag of excrement that is the reality of Vnzla today.
12ish is my winter hibernation number.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great memory Troy. I'm just allowing him his therapy. The USA and Japan are THE major trade partners with China.....to the tune of almost a Trillion dollars. Of course you really can't count Hong Kong as an outside trading partner. I don't see the dollar leaving anytime soon. But if it makes him enjoy his chubby from the chinny so be it.
Stevie.......competition is god is it not? Unless it is Argentina then competition is outlawed and controlled. The free world can handle it.
Yes Guzz.........wasn't he an engine room rated mariner? A snipe probably and oilman......lol. But he will claim to being a mate.
Venezuela is Stevie's El Dorado. I mean where else do you need to be finger printed to TRY and get groceries? Venezuela sold it's soul to the devil....in this case oil to China. In a year or more when oil gains some and levels out around 60........China will still be getting over 40% of what Venezuela produces and at 39/40 a barrel.
China is like a quick fuse....only the igniter's cannot see it.
1-Corruption
2-non-growth for a developing nation
3-Infrastructure
4-Demographics, demographics and demographics
5-Failure to know how to fail
He assuredly has no idea what those mean. Stevie......have my lighter....please.
Stevie can't we meet in Bariloche and have a cigar and chat over the good old days when when supa tupas and latin commies where game meat?
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/03/28/falklands-conflict-hypothesis-argentine-mirages-are-banned-from-flying-on-cloudy-days#comment389050: Whether the Argentinian claim has merit or not is irrelevant. The UK will be returning the Malvinas within 25 years in any case.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0180
Mar 31st, 2015 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will belong to CHINA, well within 25 years - you will be sold out by your own politicos
Argentina - pay your debts
Justice for Nisman
“Whether the Argentinian claim has merit or not is irrelevant.”
Mar 31st, 2015 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, it's not. The merits of the Argentinian claim are quite relevant. If the Argentinian claim has no merit (as the facts prove undisputably), then they have no moral or legal right to complain about Britain's right to ensure viable self-defense measures are in place on the Falkland Islands.
“The UK will be returning the Malvinas within 25 years in any case.”
Can't return what never belonged to you in the first place.
Far more likely that Argentina will drop it's false claim and agree to stop lying (as you should do).
In response to those that do not agree that my hypothetical scenario would result in successful invasion by Argentina. Well here is my response to some of the points i have seen raised.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes they do have transport planes capable of para-dropping troops and cargo such as tanks and artillery. They have 5 Hercules transport planes and 1 super Hercules. Yes they may well be only able to carry 75-100 troops. However out of the 1000 troops at Mount Pleasant, only 150-200 of them are actual infantry, the rest are grounds crew and support staff (i.e. non combat roles) so just 5 Hercules with 75 para troopers would mean the argentines would have over 375 troops compared to our 150-200 infantry.
The Argentines will launch an air attack against mount pleasant first, not necessary all of their 18 jets at once, but in groups of four every couple of hours. Are all 4 typhoons combat ready at any one time? no only two (at best 3) are ready for combat at anyone time and can the typhoons remain in the air without refueling or rearming to take down all 18 Argentine jets? No they can not, therefore if the typhoons are not shot down its highly likely they will be destroyed whilst on the ground refueling by one of the waves of attack Argentine jets. Same for the rapier, there's only 1 on islands, it can not take out all Argentine jets not shot down by the typhoons. This isn't a quality, technology and pilot training, experience scenario, its a numbers scenario. Simple fact is the Argentine numbers make it possible to take out the typhoons and the rapier.
Anyone who thinks 4 typhoons and 1 rapier system can take out 18 or more jets are stupidly ignorant. Yes our forces are personnel are among one of the best in the world, but no one is as good or as capable, against such numbers of jets attacking, as some here would like to believe! Hell we lost 5 ships in 1982, that was with far more than 4 harriers and 1 x anti air defense battery's (landborne and shipborne) to defend them!!!
Sweden signed
Mar 31st, 2015 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Norway signed
Taiwan signed
And Japan are still thinking about it.... Could it be the Asian Development Bank that hurts?
#183
Mar 31st, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting scenario. That would be a declaration of war with all it's consequences for Argentina. However, you are omitting the retaliation of sub. launched cruise missiles taking out targets in Argentina. They have NO defence against these. Would it be worth the gamble ?
Another assumption you make is that ALL the Argentinian aircraft would be serviceable and have fully trained crews in all aspects of this mission. If they are configured for air-ground attack, then they are sitting ducks.The typhoon can carry 6 bvraam and 2 sraam and remain on combat patrol for 3 hours at a range of 110 nm.
It is a fact that against Eastern produced fighters provided with Thrust Vectoring, throughout the years the Typhoon has showed an embarrassing (for them) kill-to-loss ratio.
Read the following article. If the Typhoon can take on the F-22, I think it could cope with chinese produced fighters. Read the following:-
http://www.businessinsider.com/f-22-wont-win-a-dogfight-thrust-vectoring-raptor-typhoon-eurofighter-2013-2#ixzz3VxnyRPwm
Also, do you think that the prelude to this“invasion” could be kept secret from the UK ? I am sure that word of this would be reaching the MOD and suitable action to reinforce the garrison would be made.
As to dropping heavy armoured tanks in the Falklands, my impression is that you could not find a more unsuitable terrain for tank warfare . I may stand to be corrected but boggy ground is not best suited for this kind of warfare.
You can't compare a battle 32 years ago and draw the same conclusions today.
Again, these are only my opinions and are as valid as yours.
Read more:
Buenos Aires is a ghost town today with the national strike. Next will be a 3 day strike.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love love love watching the K legacy go the way of Chavismo.
They're running a 7% monthly deficit and spent U$100MM supporting the peso yesterday.
Glorious. Simply Glorious.
You said that about China last year.... Or was it the year before?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You couldn't predict tomorrow's weather, not even next week....
Well firstly the response from Sub launched cruise missiles would be limited, we don't have an endless supply of them, whilst yes they could take out Argentine airbases they would not target civilian airports, and Argentina can simply land any returning jets there as well as take of from those civilian airports. Frankly once Mount Pleasant has been taken by Argentine forces, who probably would only take Artillery and mortars with them and not tanks. What no matter how many cruise missiles aimed at airfields on the mainland will stop that. Once they have control of mount pleasant that's its, we will have lost the islands. So the cruise missile response would only cause temporarily damaged that could easily be repaired well before we can get any sort of task force down there.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the typhoons, yes they would win against an F-22, but your missing my point. As good as the typhoons are and as good as the pilot flying them, they won't last long against 18 Argentine jets. 4 v 18 means each typhoon will have 4 or 5 Argentine jets targeting it if Argentine attacks with all 18 or more of their new jets in one swoop. And if they come in low and below radar, well bye bye typhoons as they wouldn't even get on to the runway let alone in to the area. That's how quick it could be.
As for intelligence as to a MOD knowing about a planned invasion - May they will, but they wouldn't know what the actual plan was, as only those in the need to know in Argentina would know!
You also missed the point of the my comparison to 1982 and the present. Point was, we had more airplanes and anti aircraft defenses back then, than what are in the Falklands now, and Argentine planes in 1982 attacked mostly in pairs or groups of 4 in waves. They still sank 5 of our ships and damaged other ships. So it would take them long to take out one rapier and 4 typhoons if they attacked with all 18 jets at once or in waves.
Being over confident is the biggest mistake we can make. We're not invincible!
183 Teaboy2 (#)
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 31st, 2015 - 09:09 am
As of yesterday, the Argentine Hercules fleet consisted of 1 (one) flight certified plane which is currently grounded due to fuel pump issues. It should be flight worthy within the next week!
You got your vaccine for penguin flu, Teaboy?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YB....goes into a trance...a silence descends on the gathered audience...
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His eyes roll in his head leaving only the whites of his eyes showing...
With bated breath the audience waits for a revelation...
.....“The sun will rise tomorrow”....
...he's a seer that YB.....;-))))
Voice, Are you still making it from Pearson to Central PA in 3hrs? While going through downtown Niagara falls on a Pedestrian bridge?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, remember me telling you Chavism would fail. Was I wrong? We are all Chavez. How many times did you post that?
retard.
Anyhoo China isn't ever going to make it to a developed country. It has more debt than the USA. Its reserves are not enough to fix what ails it. Only a market correction will do it. That will bring mass civil unrest.
I don't know when but I know it will happen.
Its stating to happen now as rich Chinese buy up lots of the property in the USA and pay for resident visas for their kids.
I see it everyday.
You mean they not only buy your debt, but also your assets? And that's supposed to be a good thing for you? What are you gonna pay the debts back in? Dollars?
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have very few restrictions on who buys what in the USA. That's why our markets work well, the best in the world.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we use U$ to pay our debt. That is what the bond contract requires and we pay day in and day out on time for around 200yrs and that won't change in any of our lifetimes.
yanqui
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a seer, you would know what would happen if the dollar loses its position as the trading currency.
See those money prints in the future? Them active?
;)
The Chinese investment in the USA is an exact repeat of the Japanese investment in the USA in the 1970/80s when so many Japanese business men lost their shirts through buying places like the Rockefeller Centre, the Empire State Building and a whole lot of Film studios in California!!!!!
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing that the AIIB will do is take pressure off the IMF which will go on solving problems in the West!!!!
Stevie, USA trade is most of the worlds trade. We are the major player and will be long after you are dead.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That I am sure of.
196. Exactly, we love when foreigners pay too much for assets. The Chinese are especially bad investors. They just bought the Waldorf Astoria, wait a few years when they have to sell it quick to raise cash and see how much they lose.
Take my advice, yanqui.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Charge in yuan ;)
You do it first so I can make fun of you when they devalue.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you make a huge investment in Bolivars too
retard.
You do realize they've been “stimulating” the economy for 8 years and its run out of steam.
They have so much debt all that is left are Zombie banks with worthless assets.
You do know all this I presume.
What you are postulating IS that Argentina could mount a surprise attack with ALL of it's forces without the UK having any warning.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one would notice personnel being recalled from leave, a build up of forces travelling to selected airfields and increased radio traffic.
All this would show up on satellites and intercepts at GCHQ.
There would also be a need for the Argentine Air force to practice the attack formations and a large scale air drop.
You are missing my point. The Typhoon could take out 6 incoming aircraft beyond visual range before they were even detected. If it came to a dog-fight the chinese built aircraft would have no chance. Also if you mean attacking in a wave of 18 aircraft, the chances are that the Argentinian's would shoot down some of their own aircraft in a melee. The airport at Stanley could take Typhoons. They only need a runway 300 metres long to get airborne with a combat load and landing with reverse thrust is just as feasible .
This is a typical take off by a Typhoon and I would estimate this at about 250 metres having spent upwards of 35 years photographing aircraft from this spot.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkP2dfjjgCg
In dis-similar combat exercises the Typhoons of the RAF and German air force creamed their larger opposition forces with no losses.
I think you are being over pessimistic. In 1982 our air cover was based on two carriers with Sea Harriers with what would now be called a primitive airborne radar system and a short range. I am not sure what you mean by more anti-aircraft defenses in 1982. As far as I know we had none when Argentina invaded.
Even if Argentina had the aircraft now, it would take a minimum of 2 years to get the crews and engineering staff up to combat readiness..
I don't think we are being complacent, but realistic in our ability to defend the Falklands.
As I said, we would be in a state of war with Argentina with all the consequences if a surprise attack took place. I think the possibility is slim.
@188 Teaboy2
Mar 31st, 2015 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are assuming that Argentina could, “acquire” 18 combat aircraft and all the necessary trimmings with combat ready pilots, as well as all the other capabilities (which they currently do not have for such an undertaking) required.
With nobody noticing, not even the Chileans.
Fair to say the current deployment is equal to the current threat posed.
However if the threat increased, for any reason, it is reasonable to assume the British would increase their deployment accordingly.
Those 18 aircraft could be met by much more than just 4 Typhoons.
Also it is somewhat difficult to come in “below the radar” over 400 miles of ocean, with the curvature of the planet as the only thing to hide behind.
Since the current US administration the Argentine armed forces have received a great deal of training and combat support equipment such as parachutes and airdrop equipment, helicopters, FM radios and the list goes on. Equally China has been giving immense amounts of support, financial, technical, physical and moral over recent years.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It soldiers are now all volunteers, of a high physical standard, and a good quality of education.
. According to a US Marine Corps officer they are virtually clones of those run by the French Army, and the training is tough and appropriate.
Their special forces are all trained on French army or the Navy's Fusiler Marin's principles.
In every way it is a different force to that of 1982.
Sunday mirror 29-03-2015—page 24
Argentine special forces are feared to be preparing some sort of landing on the Falklands,
The elite unit could occupy one or two of the 700 islands around the Falklands,
Any landing would cause an international incident etc etc,
It only takes one landing to gain CFK her victory and humiliate Britain,
Rumours of training by USA military and French military are worrying,
See more.
So they say…
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Rumours, exactly. I am sure our military would be aware of this from contacts in the U.S and French armed forces.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they landed then we would bomb the shit out of them. We still have 12 Squadron equipped with Tornados at RAF Lossiemouth. They are up-to-speed having spent time in Afghanistan and could be down there within a couple of days.
But again, what is the problem. We have it in tablets of stone that the Argentinians will never again use force but only seek a peaceful negotiated solution to THEIR problem.
The methods of war have changed in the last thirty years...it's now all about removing the enemy's ability to propagate a war...communications, arms caches, airfields etc....
Mar 31st, 2015 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We saw this with Libya, I don't think the UK would be going on the defensive, I think their defence would be attacking mainland targets....
Who really knows what is stockpiled on those islands...
It's always amusing how underestimated we get.
Mar 31st, 2015 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo's Insignia War Ship, the “Gordobolú2” will be baptized soon, regardless of any union strikes or sporadic dandruff attacks on the Argentinian Royal Family.
So long suckers!
As long as we don't get caught again,
Mar 31st, 2015 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we have the might , we have the fire power ,
we have the guts , the ability and the nerve,
but do we have a real government ??
only time will tell,
as for Argentina's government , would they make the same mistake twice.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/03/28/falklands-conflict-hypothesis-argentine-mirages-are-banned-from-flying-on-cloudy-days#comment389249: But any deficiencies that may exist in Argentina's moral or legal claim will not prevent the return of the Malvinas within the next 25 years. So those deficiencies are irrelevant.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will belong to China within the next 25 years and will no longer control their own destiny.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The “Malvinas” cause will pale next to your frustration at the raping of your natural resources and youth unemployment. !!!'
Argentina pay your debts!
Justice for Nisman !!
Guys! Calm Down!
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even the Argentine military admit they can't possibly mount an attack against the FI.
This is exactly why they keep wittering on about 'seeking a peaceful solution'.
It because they have nothing left and are trying to pretend to be all 'moral' and 'nice'.
Don't trust the bastards.
Given half a chance they would attack. Fortunately Cristina is so scared of the military she has kept them broke and useless for many years.
So Timer-twat can shout to the heavens, no-one takes him seriously.
His best effforts merely provide me with a chortle over my morning Tea...
Justice for Kelly!
Apr 01st, 2015 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0While we are at it...
#207
Apr 01st, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take it your post is an April fool joke?
#210 add Webb while you are at it.....lol
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where you living and psoting from these days? You make it back to SA yet? Would you like for me to photobucket some of the success stories for you to see what you are missing in free market home?
You mean in the USA? The poorest nation on the planet?
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you will find success stories, you've been robbing the masses, canalizing their wealth into the pockets of a few. Not mentioning living on borrowed money and printing more and more...
The masses are done with you,band now is the time to pay your debt back...
Enjoy!
Sometime you start to make sense than you make a statement like:
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You mean in the USA? The poorest nation on the planet?”
And while it is obviously for effect, it it still a ridiculous statement from someone like you and even you know how foolish it is. I will send you l=pictures from SA next month.
17 Trillion dollars in debt, and your money prints are becoming obsolete.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unless you find another way to upkeep the trust in the dollar (GDP vs debt won't do it, will it?), you are in trouble. Regardless of your pics...
You equate debt in the real world with the way SA handles it.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can point towards SA all you want.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can point to China as well, if you wish.
You could even close your eyes and cover your face with your hands.
None of it will solve the issue...
I agree, but I am not re-directing.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obama Lifts Freeze on Argentinian Weapon Sales
Apr 01st, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Today April 1st 2015-04-01
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/budget/2015/03/31/white-house-lifts-freeze-on-egyptian-weapon-sales/70718296/
WASHINGTON — The White House lifted an executive hold on weapon sales to Argentina Tuesday, as part of a broader attempt to “modernize” the military relationship between the two countries.
President Obama informed Argentinian President Christina Fernandez kirchner of the change in the administration's posture,
In a statement announcing the change, National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan noted that the administration has been tracking the Argentine situation since that 1982 freeze went into effect.
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There are both immediate and long-term impacts of the change in posture. In the short term, the US will clear the sale of 12 F-16 aircraft, 20 Harpoon missiles and up to 125 M1A1 Abrams tank kits, which had been held up. Obama has also pledged $1.3 billion in foreign military financing (FMF) for argentina.
That is good news for both an argentinian military that has been awaiting upgraded equipment, in its stance against the British,
Also in 2018, the FMF funding for Argentina will be targeted to four specific categories – counterterrorism, border security, maritime security and an improved modern navy – as well as sustainment for existing weapons. Although not stated in the news release, guiding how FMF dollars are used will allow the US to help shape Argentina military strategies against her enemies
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In a statement, House Armed Services Committee chairman Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-TX., praised the decision.
”We encourage the government of argentina to continue its democratic process,“and the recovery of its or any lost territory, Thornberry said. ”But argentina is also a strong regional ally. Maintaining that relationship must be a priority for the U.S. Email: amehta@defensenews.com
Twitter: @AaronMehta
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207 Hepatia
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the return of the Malvinas within the next 25 years.” How long have you had these delusions that you have the power of prophesy? You must have a huge need to compensate for your feelings of inadequacy, to have such unrealistic fantasies. This is what my tea-leaves tell me:
The past is history the future is a mystery.Anon
“It is often said there are two types of forecasts ... lucky or wrong!!!!” in “Control” magazine published by Institute of Operations Management
“Forecasting future events is often like searching for a black cat in an unlit room, that may not even be there. ” Steve Davidson
“Forecasting is the art of saying what will happen, and then explaining why it didn't! ” Anonymous
“Those who have knowledge, don't predict. Those who predict, don't have knowledge.” Lao Tzu, 6th Century BC Chinese Poet
«They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-»
Last words of Gen. John Sedgwick, spoken as he looked out over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864.
Thou knowest the past but not the future. As to what is future, even a bird with a long neck can not see it, but God only.” Anonymous
Stevie, doesn't understand wealth or debt figures. Don't even bother trying to explain it to it.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/
Our Treasury Debt is meaningless, its denominated in our own currency. If we wanted we could just inflate our way out of it like all the failed nations or just declare ourselves in default like Argentina. Who could do anything?
Nobody.
Of course we are a nation of laws and honor so I don't see that happening.
Stevie is a stilly creature, not too bright and mentally unstable its a dangerous combination.
Cfk announce today,
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that if the Falkland's were to be returned to them,
they would in turn return themselves to Spain,
who would then in turn , return themselves to the British..
so they stated..
Hahahaha yanqui
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How much of those “funds” aren't private ones? 5%? 7?
So, your point is that the assets of the nation, belongs to the very same people that holds a great part of the debt?
...
And how is this good, you say?
Hahahaha
Stevie, We are all Chavez or as I like to call you Retard. What you posted makes no sense in English. Think it thorough and try again.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I may or may not respond because you are clearly retarded and don't understand economics or finance.
Not in the least.
Nice withdrawal yanqui :)
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See you on another thread :)))
So you can't re-phrase the question to make sense?
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a blockhead.
We are all Chavez,
CARACAS, VENEZUELA – Two employees at Venezuela’s Vice Ministry of Supreme Social Happiness were far from happy last week when they were fired for refusing to sign a manifesto against the Obama administration, a Caracas-based human rights organization is claiming.
In Petare, a suburb of Caracas, a woman who asked to remain anonymous said she had to step out of a two-hour line to buy fish because she refused to sign the petition, while in the western state of Merida government officials were offering the opportunity to buy milk to those who agreed to support President Nicolas Maduro in his anti-U.S. campaign.
Vice Minister of Supreme Social Happiness...
gads Socialists are stupid.
yanqui, you don't need me to rephrase, you need me to educate you....
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here, read this, even your allies are starting to realize...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2014/07/12/forget-debt-as-a-percent-of-gdp-its-really-much-worse/
You see, you can't talk about GDP when speaking of national debt, because the state never collects the GDP other than during taxation...
You'll understand soon...
Where did I post anything about GDP/Debt? What i posted was teh estimated USA wealth of 188 TRILLION so there's plenty of wealth to pay our country's debt.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can always default or inflate the currency if we want but the debt is manageable and there's a huge huge market for it.
Well, how much of those 188 Trillion are governmental, and how much is pivate?
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't expect the public to pay for govermental debts? I mean, a massive amount of the debt is tied in pensions already....
Unless you mean the pensions are to be dropped altogether....
The US gov't is the largest landholder with vast mineral/oil wealth. It also has the ability to tax the world's wealthiest, most innovative, and productive population. It is the world's only superpower.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just those 3 things (and there are plenty more) are enough reason there will never be a problem paying our debt.
What you are speculating and wishing for will never happen.
We are not Venezuela or Argentina.
The ability to tax its citizens, and the ability to default....
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which one will come first, yanqui?
Imagine the world not trusting the dollar, making an alternative currency for trade... Lets call it yuan.
What effect will the default have then, yanqui?
Seer?
The USA could default but we never would. We have the ability to create as many U$ as we ever need.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They could make a U$17T bill tomorrow and wipe it out.
The Yuan will never be competition for the U$. The Chinese are not reliable and don't have the trade/financial volume we do. They never will. Their demographics are working against them. They will never become a developed country.
You are a very foolish person.
I wonder if you are even an adult.
That leaves taxation or..... war....
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Warring got you here in the first place, it merely benefits US corporations, while USA as a nation pays the price. That's not an option either, is it?
And taxation... would make you what? Socialists?
Check
@201 Pugol
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Flying under the radar is easier to do over the sea than it is over land. Your forgetting what the term flying under the radar stems from. Well if the radar transmitter was at a height of 70ft above sea level (am not saying this is the case for the radar at mount pleasant or the type or capabilities of the radar system there), then anything flying below an altitude of 70ft over the sea would be below the radar level and unlikely to be picked up on radar until its too late to respond or scramble our jets.
As for training and preparing the Argentine pilots to be combat ready, well that won't take long at all, a matter of 3-6 months after the new jets arrive and the planes and pilots will be combat ready. As for their being more than 4 typhoons or even other fight jets at mount pleasant? Its possible, but i doubt they'll be more than 6 at most, with only 2-4 on scramble alert at anyone time! And even then, if the Argentine jets fly in below the radar our planes may not even get the chance to get of the ground!
233. The “war machine” in the USA is a net positive to the economy, drives our innovation, our corporation's profitablity and citizenry wealth.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no problem with it.
Taxes don't make you a Socialist.
What are you checking? Most of what you posts makes absolutely no sense, there's not logic or thought process.
You are a simpleton
In true capitalism you have no state, thus is taxation by definition a socialist act.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And socialism is per definition an alternative to capitalism, capitalizing on the needs of the masses more than the need of the individual.
This is precisely what you are offering as the only solution.
Why not the bankers, the medicin industry and the weapon producers?
Why not charge those who actually profited, and by all means initiated this mess we live in, in order to profit?
Why not let them pay the bill?
Stevie's distractions only....
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0STEVIE the Seer, has nothing good to predict about China, Venzla, or Arg - he has to tear down others!
Well STEVIE Seer,
What happened to the Great Bolivarian Revolution, and it's road to a continental, enlightened Utopia ??
You were all for that - now we hear nothing!!
What has the False Prophet, Chavez, wrought, but a populist hellhole that has betrayed the people and squandered their Petro-legacy??
Pretty obvious the people are getting “Chavved”
good and proper- not a peep from “Seer STEVIE”!
Now, finally, the “Saviour of Chavism”, disciple Maduro, has sold the birthright and the freedom of the Venzla people, to a foreign power, for a rock bottom price, and a few promises.
Meanwhile, he jails Venzla citizens for Free Speech, and maintains his Fraudulant Presidency through thuggery, and ruling by decree. He politically manipulates the people through hunger!
Was this the vision of “Seer Stevie ” ??
“We are all Chavez!”
Wasn't it the SUPA TUPA, “Seer Stevie” that said Argentina should aspire to unite in SA Brotherhood with Venzla and the Bolivarian Revolutionary Miracle??
Looks like Stevie kind of lost his faith along the way....
Relax Seer Stevie - Argentina IS headed that way.
As a “SUPA TUPA” in the 1970's, fighting for “the people”, you must be SO proud - the ultimate embodiment of all your Bolivarian Socialist goals, are coming to fruition, right????
Tell us, wise SEER, are you still backing this grand “vision”?
In comparison,
Your lame , mumbled, retorts to YB amount to nothing more than “...yeah... well sometime in the future, the U.S. dollar looks like it will be not as strong as now ... yar blockos... !”
If your parents really were Tupas - they must be so proud of you.
And
Who is advocating for “true” capitalism? Not I
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's anarchy.
All of those types of companies you named pay their fair share of taxes.
The bills are paid.
What you post is complete nonsense.
Does it make sense in your head?
Oh, we still fight the monster Troy.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Operación Cóndor failed.
It's amazing how you are reaping your own failure.
Try less violence next time.
239. By the look of Venezuela, Uruguay, Brazil and Argentina as compared to the USA clearly the Marxists terrorists have failed.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We didn't even have to invade.
They destroyed themselves all by themselves
Watching Venezuelan Chavism “Bolivarian Revolution” fail has been the highlight of my year.
And the icing on the cake is Chavism has killed more people than we did in Iraq.
and its still happening
day in and day out
I'm just waiting for the mass starvation.
Always happens in those types of places
always happens
:)
239 “SUPA TUPA”
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh, we still fight the monster Troy.
Operación Cóndor failed.
It's amazing how you are reaping your own failure.
Try less violence next time.”
Stevie,
You've shown yourself to be nothing more than a liar and a poser.
You are no more a “TUPA” than I am.
Lots of violence all around, Tupa-poser.
Bombing, killing, and torturing - terrorism against Democratic states, for the great Socialist cause, “remember”??
Condor stopped most of that in its tracks - many ardent criminal idealists forever exiled - and obviously, like your parents, forever bitter.
That bitterness and misplaced idealism, is your only legacy, poor fool.
The remaining Socialists are consuming themselves.
The only “monster” is you,
the Bolivarian socialists( not “stevie”, the armchair, warrior- typist)
Get over yourself.
Watch :)
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tic tac
Tic tac
Tic tac
;)
242 Stupa - warrior-typist
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lame retort.
You sound like Hepatia.
“Watch” your Populist Venzla descend into atrocities and anarchy, and Argentina unravel - long before the USD weakens.
Real TUPAS must be turning in their graves at the thought of you.
Europe is saving herself, lads. The rats abandoning the ship.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know less effort will be made to uphold the credit do the USD if there's a option in the market.
Hey, one could even say that's the way the market works.
What will happen if an alternative trading currency emerges.
Or let me put it like this. How come USA can keep on printing bills?
Stevie.....tic tac is a candy....what does that have to do with anything?
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about this stevie.......when your country, errrr....I mean your former country sends over advisors to the USA and advises us how to use Ford Falcons and extract information from USA citizens........and not those relocated ragheads, then you are on to something. DO you know in the 70s/80s the military calculated the worth of a Latin American life was worth? Like driving memory lane in the good old days of commie plinking.
But in the meantime........you are in no position figuratively and literally to make predictions.
I will say this stevie......great re-direct from the article.
@242 TUPA-poser
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Watch :)
Tic tac
Tic tac
Tic tac“
What's that but a glib snide response?
”Watch“ - it means nothing.
Watch what??
Is the Poser-Seer, STEVIE-soothsayer, telling us that 'something' is going to happen???
Seer,
”something“ always happens - always!
You have no fcuking clue what, though!
I see you can't refute anything I said @237 and @241
Sorry, no face-saving easy-out for you - poser.
@244 TUPA-poser
Back to your old diversion- ”....but ..but.. look at the U.S. economy... !”
You mean like Mitrione?
Apr 01st, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you told his family he was again?
247
Apr 01st, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wannabe
Idiots like Stevie, We are all Chavez, want the whole world to live like animals the way they must in Venezuela now:
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When a friend texted me that coffee and toilet paper were on the shelves of an eastern Caracas supermarket, I raced to El Patio outlet hoping against hope that the increasingly scarce household items would still be available.
No such luck. When I arrived at 9 a.m., the line was the length of a football field and a dozen bachaqueros, dressed in athletic wear and bluejeans, were leaving the store. They lugged nylon bags packed with coffee, milk powder, cooking oil and sugar, all highly coveted items in today's Venezuela. Slinging the precious commodities over their shoulders, they sped away on motorbikes.
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-venezuela-shopping-20150401-story.html
Heads - think.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tails - stevie.
Two sides of the same coin.
@234 Teaboy2
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple geometry, Radars are in effect “line of sight”, when placed on mountains such as in Cyprus or other Island locations, they see down to sea level including wave height, for some considerable distance (shall we say). Until the earth’s surface curves away.
T45 Destroyers are designed to deal with swarm attacks and have a what, 30 meter tower with radar on top, look at the effective distance of that system and it will give you some idea.
If the British had any time to reinforce (Argentina getting new aircraft would be the cue) then with just SAM and shoulder launched systems in place, 18 aircraft would last minutes at best, before you even engage Typhoons.
Which would be better engaged in an anti-shipping role.
#234
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine pilots would NOT be ready to fly the new aircraft within 3/6 months.
My understanding is that the current Argentine air force have very little fast jet training at present. They would have to convert to the new aircraft and be proficient in it's handling characteristics. Then they would have to go to a tactical training unit to learn how to use it's radar, weapon systems and practice low level flying for long distances over the sea with no radio communication. Then be proficient in air to air refuelling.
First of all, they will have to train a cadre of pilots to train both air to air and ground attack skills. These are not interchangeable.
If the experiences of other airforces are followed then the chances are of losing a couple of aircraft/pilots in training.
In addition, the ground crews have to be trained in all aspects of the aircraft's maintenance.
For RAF pilots who were already proficient in flying the Typhoon, it took a lot longer than your timescale to be combat ready for the ground attack role.
At RAF Lossiemouth we have two dedicated air defence squadrons and one configured for ground attack.
You are suggesting that the Argentine pilots are superior to those of the RAF or USAAF or USMC in acquiring combat skills. Not likely.
Stevie is taking too much abuse so Dumyburger is returning.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In retrospect it would take you abt 2 years to get fully operational , fully trained , and combat ready,
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you do not get ready flying around the sky playing jackass with you mates,
these thing are very highly skilled, just ask the top guns out there,
maintenance , supply , infastuctia ,
253 Capt. Poppy
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Stevie is taking too much abuse so Dumyburger is returning.”
I agree, but I thought “Dany” WAS “STEVIE”!
I guess “Stevie” has a bit too much SUPA TUPA baggage of lies, to be very effective anymore.
Shit, I pressed enter too early,
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In retrospect it would take you abt 2 years to get fully operational , fully trained , and combat ready,
you do not get ready flying around the sky playing jackass with you mates,
these thing are very highly skilled, just ask the top guns out there,
maintenance , supply , ,infrastructure ,
If Argentina is serious then it has to build it up very slowly,
And when they think they are ready,
Then a decision will have to be made,
Do we==or don’t we
Every decision will have a consequence,
In this case, I would say in all honesty
If you can afford to rebuild it a few times, then go for it [ bring it on ]
If not, then don’t bother spending all that money that you don’t have on a project you cant afford to replace. And humiliate your selves again.
Still, there decision = and we will certainly reply??
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Hahaha
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Supa Tupa labelling will save you lot :)
Keep going though, it's highly amusing :)
2015 and you lot STILL talk about the Tupas :))))
253 Capt P.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think has come to the 'rescue' of Stevie as well, reminding us that Stevie says he is from “Scandinavia”, like Think.
Stevie originally said he was a SUPA TUPA exiled to Europe in 1976 as a result of Operation Condor.
THEN, he was the son of exiled Tupas, whose job brought him close to the shores of Uruguay.
That in turn, changed to “I spend 4 months a year in Uruguay”.
LATER, it changed again - he argued about local dialects and slang usage in MVD vs. rural Uruguay, claiming he currently LIVES in N. Uruguay, in a rural setting...
None of Stevie's stories are consistent - he changes them to support his arguments.
Now, THINK and DANY are backing him up.
I recall all of that.....yes I notice Dburger returned. How does he not confuse all those names? I suppose that is why some disappear for a while.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes!
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How does he do it!!
You Think Dany is Toby? Or is Guzz Think, you Think?
See the red line?
Problem isn't Toby, or Dany, Guzz nor Think.
Problem is you think.
From there, all is downwards...
259 Poppy
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe STEVIE is evolving from a puppet to a real boy?
....says the Super Puppet...
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt110/captainscifi/Supermarionation%20Classic%20Puppets/Troy%20Tempest/079c5e26.jpg
Hahaha
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would explain his cintura.
Like an ID photo, as they say
Hahaha
262
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0ho ho ho... the sparkling wit of 'voice, and the sucking up of stevie the stooge...
Sorry man, I didn't know you were such a doll, don't get upset with me!
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just out of curiousity, is it with strings attached, or the more traditional stick up your bottom?
oh, clever.
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0did voice help you with that, or was it in your l'il Trolls playbook for the week?
Sounds like the traditional stick...
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know Dany disappeared after he and I had a chat about the Peso's decline and he told me he was going to put all his money in Peso instead of the U$. I think that was when the Peso was 6/1.
Apr 04th, 2015 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
Now Stevie is going to invest in Yuan 6.20/1
Let's see where we are next year.
Same stupid leftists, I wonder if they like living like animals.
I have a friend visiting from SoAm, its his first visit to the USA. He is amazed how modern, nice, clean, quiet and safe everyplace is.
yeah I know
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