MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Cristina Fernandez lashes out at unions for the 24-hour strike that brought Argentina to a halt
President Cristina Fernandez fiercely criticized the trade union leaders behind Tuesday's 24-hour general strike, which brought Argentina to a halt, arguing that adhesion to the measure would have been far lower if public transport had functioned as normal. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesthe ck gang laments and laments until they are fired in december.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0where have they already now applied for asylum? venezuela? china?, north korea?
Fernandez is quite funny, in a sick sort of way. ”I am proud that this country has the highest minimum wage of all Latin America; I am not proud of the 10% of workers who do not let the other 90% go to work.“ This from a woman (maybe) who has probably stolen more money than anyone else in argieland. Taking up a job that almost anyone else (including Micky Mouse) could do better. Total autocracy in place. When is she going to give 'a little piece of what she has'. Millions of dollars from hotels and a law firm that rarely have clients? I don't think so.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is there any real justice in argieland? If there is, Fernandez and many of her clique will go direct from their 'office' to a prison cell.
@2 We finally agree on something.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The emporer has no clothes.
When she is finished ruining our country she can move in with you. You are a great match!
@3. Really? The word is 'emperor'. Not a good idea to point bent fingers when you can't even spell.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I spent the major part of my life working FOR my country. Put a number of latams behind bars. What have you done worthy of note?
Cristina Fernandez is doing quite well in opinion polls, which is rare for a president at the end of term.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The opposition is so desperate to get the public opinion on side, they jump at anything that might help: vultures, dead prosecutors, strangely motivated strikes, off-shore accounts, you name it. The newspaper Clarin shows increasing desperation by pulling stories by the hair each day now.
However, facts speak better than plots.
The election will have to be fought on political platforms.
3 day strike is on its way, then probably more.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe Crissy needs to open a Ministry of Supreme Happiness like her brother did in Venezuela.
Stupid Marxists get exactly what they deserve.
Reeeeeekie- even labor loathes the k kleptocracy. Go home to rotting roadkill.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique leave the Canadian children alone and go back to the shithole of Argentina that you so love. I hope you still have a chubby to play with when Macri wins in October.......you antiquated hypocritical commie.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5. Oh shut up. You're just an old argie git that ran away to Canada. Go back and join the pain. Starve with the rest. Maybe Canada will kick your sorry arse out. You are incredibly sick. I do hope you end soon!
Apr 01st, 2015 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great article about Argentina:
Apr 01st, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://mobile.spectator.org/theamericanspectator/#!/entry/weeping-for-argentina,551a542a2aa3a517411f70b8/1
Anibal Fernandez says“ 95% of workers would have gone to work if the buses were running” does that mean that 5% of the workforce go to work either by train, car, bicycle or walk? Christ the roads must be full of buses on a normal day.
Apr 01st, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Apr 01st, 2015 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I predicted two years ago, time to change your maps everyone. The most important state in the poor USA is now officially “the Desert of California”
http://news.yahoo.com/drought-stricken-california-set-measure-snowpack-075412264.html
Slow, sad, death. Due to American arrogance about climate and thinking they can just go on business as usual. Too late.
12 Snotty Nostril
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0A little off-topic, Snotty!!
No matter, we can all do that - how about a review of Hector Timmerman, an Argentine Jew who betrayed his own people, and his fellow countrymen??
“Nisman accused Fernandez; Hector Timerman, the foreign minister; and others in her administration of brokering the cover-up in exchange for favourable deals on oil and other goods from Iran.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2015/02/argentina-accused-bombing-cover-cristina-kirchner-jewish-centre-iran-150213172635154.html
Snotty,
Please tell us how you feel about Timmerman covering up the murder of fellow Jews, for money??
What does your community think of that??
9 conqueror
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh shut up.”
Gee, finally an argument. Haven't seen it that good for a while.
Gonna tell you something. Most foreigners would not know what “burocracia sindical” is, and unfortunately I don't have the time to explain it here. But know that a strike decreed by union bureaucrats does not mean the populace is rising up in arms. If you believe that as YB blindly does, you are missing the boat. As a worker, when these “leaders” decree a strike, you must stay home or you are at risk.
Now Ctn Poppy and sir the Conqueror are advising me to go back to Argentina.
Tell you what: when I do, you won't read me here. In the meantime, you will have to suffer challenges to your misinformed, hateful and backward views. A word of advice: save your insults for people with thinner skin. I'd like to see arguments. Trying to chase people with keyboard violence only make you look silly.
14 Bearded old man.....I would not advise an old pedophile like you on the lame in Canada of anything. Why not chill and let Stroll with the troll take care of you. No worries....Canada probably will not extradite you. You have the freedom to speak as you please..........without credibility. You love Kirchners work.......from the safety of Canada..........you fucking old hypocrit.........eat shit and bark at the moon like most kirchnerite followers.....then die......and you will soon at your age. Ashame you never saw a Green Ford Falcon.....good old days.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troy this is the master work of Kirchner. I've been the pleasure of almost getting caught in one of Argentina's infamous strikes a few years back. They are quite something to see. At times bon fires in major roadways......sometimes vehicles passing through are vacated and overturned. Then sometimes they send Mad Max Kirchner on them with his goons and baseball bats. Troy it is truly a wonder to behold.
As for you Paginia boi #12 do you tag team with Enrique or is he too old? Do you like wrinkled cock?
A small yet interesting article. Maybe the Russians learned form the RGs:
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-internet-trolls-are-trained-to-spread-propaganda-in-three-person-teams-2015-3
Funny how I was the first one to call Reekie out as a fcking hypocrite and was attacked as being unkind by the Kidiots and Dirk Diggler of Western Canada and now everyone sees it.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its hard being right all the time.
Especially when it takes others so long to catch up.
:)
@14. Anybody care what “burocracia sindical” means? Is it something in 'gibberish'?
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Now Ctn Poppy and sir the Conqueror are advising me to go back to Argentina.
Tell you what: when I do, you won't read me here.' And we're advising you to go back to argieland....why? Why are you out of 'your' country interfering in the affairs of another country? Why do you refer to valid comments as 'misinformed, hateful and backward views'? You have a problem with your country being described as 'belligerent'? Then explain the 'economic war' and the assertion by Putrid Jelly that argieland would invade again but for the British garrison. Corruption and criminality? Explain US$16 million. From hotels with no guests and a law firm with no clients? Depravity? You know your own proclivities best. Larcenous? When not? Mendacious? When not? Queer? You are, aren't you? Shall I go on through genocidal, incompetent, murderous, psychotic, regressive, xenophobic?
Regrettably, for you, I can't be bothered to cross the Atlantic. Otherwise I'd tell you face to face what scum your 'country' is. Here's some clues. Your 'country' signed the UN Charter. Want to read it through and see how many provisions your 'country' breaches? How are you on debts? Your dishonest 'country' owes more than US$100 billion. How I wish a proper nation would invade and rip your ill-gotten gains out of your greedy, grasping fingers. Around there are nations that you try to dominate and disadvantage. Think how much better things might be if your 'country' was honest, responsible and had integrity!
Reeeeeekie! Go home to your LATAM paradise.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Banks are begging the Gov't to come out with 200/5000/1000 bank note denominations.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0000000 how many aero will they add before they change the name again?
:)
17 Conqueror (#)
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 02nd, 2015 - 02:01 pm
Actually we owe something in the region of U$S 320 billion, and at the moment we have about U$S 3 billion in reserves in the BCRA. This is the fruit of the management abilities of CFK and Axel Kicillof!!!!!!!
17 Conqueror
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Asks Conqueror: “Why do you refer to valid comments as 'misinformed, hateful and backward views'?”
As my answer, here's a sample taken from your posting, Conqueror:
“You know your own proclivities best. Larcenous? When not? Mendacious? When not? Queer? You are, aren't you?...”
That is why. You and your compinches here cannot withstand a point of view different from yours--you go apoplectic, depart in all directions and rain on insults, lacking valid points.
Tell you what: you guys were too comfortable here consoling each other about how bad CFK is and how lazy Argentines are. Suffer the presence of a challenging voice--you may learn a thing or two.
Enrique,
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely somebody should look into CFK's dealings when brought to light by the remaining media that is not government controlled.
CFK has a large private wealth that she attributes to her Law Practice- yet she holds no Law Degree.
CFK has hotel holdings with lucrative longterm government contracts, yet hotels are empty, poorly maintained, and will not rent to tourists.
CFK personally conducts an official disinformation campaign against the FI and FI interests in the South Atlantic, as well as an illegal economic blockade.
CFK has tried to change the Constitution to stay in power for an illegal 3rd term
CFK buses in large numbers of paid supporters from the public purse, for party political rallies.
CFK has been implicated in the AMIA coverup with Timerman
CFK uses government owned or affiliated media for political messages at public expense.
CFK has tried to limit and suppress independent media.
Those are just a few of her more overt “questionable” actions - of course, Argentines living in Argentina are even more critical of her.
At the very least, CFK appears less than truthful, and is putting her own self-interest ahead of what's good for Argentina.
Enrique why not discuss life in Argentina with Simon, he's a man in Argentina AND of reality.
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All this hassle,
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder CFK needs all them facelifts.
23 Capt. Poppy,
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe Enrique to be a man of principle and integrity, but his loyalty to CFK is misplaced, and he confuses his support for the current corrupt government, with his love for Argentina.
Good idea to have him speak directly with and to, Simon68, a Professional, and resident and citizen of present-day Argentina.
Any problem with that, Enrique?
You both seem to have integrity.
Reeeekie! Who is now utilizing your username? Huh?
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If he had integrity he could not support a corrupt regime like Kirchner. If he had integrity how does he reconcile the manner in which they were vultures to their own people in the foreclosure land sale deals?
Apr 02nd, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 Capt poppy
Apr 03rd, 2015 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good point.
Maybe you could ask Enrique to explain it?
Perhaps he really believes what the K's print??
Maybe he is an unthinking Patriot, or an uncaring Nationalist???
It would be interesting to see what reaction Simon68 has to him.
Enrique??
You're up!
@22
Apr 04th, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you mean to leave out the judiciary?
22 Troy Tempest:
Apr 04th, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kudos to you for advancing arguments. While no government will have all its decisions right, I give much weight to acts impacting the country or social sectors. (More on that later).
1. CFK has large private wealth...holds no Law Degree.
A: The law degree story reminds me of Obama’s birth certificate story. In any event, illicit enrichment must be investigated. The judiciary has demonstrated independence through many rulings. (see 8).
2. CFK has hotel holdings with lucrative government contracts...
A: Corruption must be eradicated. Justice must investigate.
3. CFK conducts disinformation campaign...illegal economic blockade against Falkland Islds.
A: CFK actively pursues the Argentine’s peaceful claims on the Islas Malvinas (Falkland Islands), which is considered a national interest.
4. CFK has tried to change the Constitution to stay in power for an illegal 3rd term.
A: CFK did not try. If she thought about it, she abstained after unfavourable election results in 2013.
5. CFK buses in large numbers of paid supporters from the public purse, for party political rallies.
A: Using public money in such way must be investigated and sanctioned.
6. CFK has been implicated in the AMIA cover up with Timerman.
A: Prosecutor Alberto Nisman’s accusation against CFK and Timerman has been dismissed twice—by a judge and by appeal judges. A prosecutor has appealed the last dismissal.
7. CFK uses government owned or affiliated media for political messages at public expense.
A: Again, the justice must investigate any illegal use of public money.
8. CFK has tried to limit and suppress independent media.
A: Through a media law approved in 2009, concentrated groups such as Clarin must let go some of their outlets i.e. cable television networks. After FOUR years of legal challenges by the Clarin Group, in 2013 the Supreme Court declared the law constitutional. However, continued legal wrangling has permitted Clarin to avoid complying to this day.
30 Enrique
Apr 04th, 2015 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, really to sum up - you have refuted nothing, admitted to the media suppression, and whether #3 is “considered a national interest” or not, the government sponsored Malvinas Myth, is contrary to recorded historical events and precedents, international treaties, and the UN Charter.
You have no right to sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.
How does one get “investigated” the the one in question controls the investigators?
Apr 05th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”She and her husband, who supposedly died on October 26th, 2010, took federally owned land and created deeds for them, of course to themselves and their fake holding company (Los Sauces, SA is the name of the company). They then re-sold these federally owned lands in the south of Argentina for millions of dollars and of course, kept the money all for
themselves.
Cristina's children, Florencia Kirchner a/k/a Florkey, Flor, and Maximo Kirchner are heavily involved in her corruption. Florencia lived in New York studying film production as a student, but lived in a luxury park avenue apartment. Some of us who knew her in New York used to listen to Florkey brag about all of her parent's money how the common folk in
Argentina are garbage and how her parents became millionaires stealing the country´s money. And we saw Florencia Kirchner put plenty of cocaine up her nose at parties in New York, and it's easy for her to get since her family is also involved in the drug trade. Maximo
Kirchner owns a string of hotels in the south of Argentina and takes in millions of dollars per year. They are both involved with nationalist terrorist groups called “La Campora” and “Quebracho”. That go around the country stealing money, bribing, threatening legitimate businesses, shaking down companies for money, expropiating and nationalizing public and private property all to keep for themselves. Florencia Kirchner is one of the ugliest females in all of the Americas and Maximo Kirchner is one of the ugliest males. Their physical looks mirror their ugly and crooked human souls. Maximo Kirchner's girlfriend Maria
Rocio Garcia is a dentist known for many malpractice lawsuits.”
Enrique you are a journalist...........find where this excerpt from a report was created.
Argentina.....yes, Kirchnerism......no.
Further to #22 Troy Tempest:
Apr 05th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When evaluating a government, I give much weight to acts that impact the whole country or large social sectors. The governments of Néstor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández are not error-free. What government could make such a claim? As a whole, however, both Néstor and Cristina are leaving a much better structured country than the devastated Argentina they found in 2003.
CFK, as NK before, sought to increase the lot of the impoverished, to allow them full participation in a more dynamic, productive economy.
In 2009, CFK established a Universal Child benefit plan reaching five million children and youth.
The plan Progresar benefited youth 18 to 24 wishing to return to school.
In 2010, CFK completed a debt swap, reaching 92 per cent of the foreign bad debt left from the 2001 default.
CFK continued to support trials for crimes against humanity during the 1976-1983 civic-military dictatorship.
In 2010 the CFK government legalized same-sex marriages, continued debt-reduction policies and made openings to China to diversify trade.
In 2014 the country renegotiated its debt with the Paris Club.
CFK has refused to cave in to the demands of opportunistic financiers known as vultures.
Poverty fell sharply during NK and CFK governments. The middle class expanded, doubling from 2003 (9.3 million) to 2009 (18.6 million).
Health and education as percentage of the GDP rose from 8.4 per cent in the 1990s to 11.9 in 2011-2013.
The CFK government extended retirement to those who could not retire before because of having worked in non-declared jobs such as domestic employees. The contributions of women who remained at home raising children were also recognized.
There is much more, but get just a hint at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Argentina
Unfortunately Enrique, your age and loss of touch with Argentina has given way from your loss of objectivity. Not a good attribute to lose as a journalist.
Apr 05th, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If those numbers were true, you than say that the ends justify the means? Then you would have to say that also applies to ANY country for any reason so long as it benefits their society......correct?
yankeeboy speaks a lot of vile trash but he also speaks reality as well. One thing that is real is that their are no firm indicators that come out of Argentina since before Nasty Nestor days. Apparently the so called “vulture funds” are an issue foryou yet you never respond tomy question I've asked on several ocassionals of how the Kirchners made their money on foreclosures.........how was that not different than those so called vulture funds?
Those returement plans you speak of were stolen from private funds where people earned them.......my wife being one of them. She went from a significant amount in an account with a balance..........now she has shit. Her balance disappeared and she has an insignificant defined benefit which amounts to nothing.
As for trials of the dictators....that's taken longer for justice than the bombing has..........wheels of justice don't turn slow.....they freeze in Argentina, especially when you control the judges and prosecutors.
It's also a far stretch of what they call middleclass in Argentina. All they are doing is stealing from workers and given it to the poor. Government handouts to keep votes in the FVP. The real middleclass is dying as it is in my country, but here it is for other reasons. Argentina’s middle class dropped from 56 to 52 percent of the country’s total population. Between inflation figures that developed nations would have a serious stroke over, currecny controls, almost complete elimination of imports in order to get U$ for financing, Argentina is nothing of what you think it is.
I am out of space and I did not even touch corruption. HAPPY EAST
Continue Capt'n
Apr 05th, 2015 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there is still the Wiki source used by Enrique - a compounded mishmash of posted info, from unknown sources, referring to government controlled, INDEC statistics, compiled by La Campora bureaucrats after the professional statisticians were sacked.
INDEC statistics and analysis is disputed by the IMF and the Catholic Church social workers helping the poor in Argentina.
Two years ago, they were saying 27% of the population was living in poverty, and getting worse, despite government statistics.
Where does the mo ey for social programs come from, if nearly a third of the country lives in poverty, and the BCRA is out of cash?
The Middle Class WORKERS, and business owners.
Why do you think the Labour Union was protesting the government??
Legitimate grievances perhaps?
Enrique dismisses any protest as “anti-government” and therefore, political and unpatriotic.
I will after Enrique responds. Takes too much time to post here seriously.....lol. But are so correct that wiki is a heaping pile of manure because anyone can edit it and say whatever they want it to say. I want Enrique to clarify for me if the end justify the means for all countries or does this only applies to Argentina?
Apr 06th, 2015 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34 CP
Apr 06th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Captain: This was a bit disappointing.
I took the time to gather a few facts showing some points that persuaded me to give credit to the Kirchner governments.
I took some Wiki info as a handy source, knowing its limitations.
Now, while you dismissed Wiki as a heap of manure and used my age and residence as arguments, you also failed to present information from sources you may trust more. You just ramble and that's not good.
If you want to criticize or even better, propose alternatives to the K model, by all means do so.
Others may have different views and will express those views here as well, with as much right as you.
In regards to your question at #36, you will have to reformulate it in clearer terms. I don't do Philosophy 101. Sorry.
And while you don't do philosophy 101.....I don't possess Depends and do gerontology......And btw....if you were in SA you may have difficulties purchasing them. It's not just tampons in short supply in Argentina. Good thing you live in Canada. I'm there next month I live send you pictures from your fatherland.
Apr 06th, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 037 Enrique,
Apr 06th, 2015 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile is a good example of an alternative to “the K model”.
They too, had Socislists and Communist activists. They too were put in their place or exiled by a military dictatorship.
Chilé also moved back to a democratic government, just like Argentina.
However,
despite being at a relative disadvantage regarding geography and resources, Chile has been very successful, especially in the last decade, growing well and overtaking Argentina in some respects.
Chile's economy grows, with low inflation, and low unemployment, good credit, and an optimistic future.
Argentina has nearly 35% inflation, growing unemployment, unprofitable Nationslised industries, YPF (no Vaca yet) and Aerolineas your airline that loses money every day, while delivering inferior service.
Foreign companies are closing car plants... private old age pension funds have been plundered and used to fund universal pensions, same money spread thinner.
That's the “won decade” courtesy of the K's!
Your educational and medical services are slipping noticeably.
ENRIQUE:
Apr 07th, 2015 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Poverty fell sharply during NK and CFK governments. The middle class expanded, doubling from 2003 (9.3 million) to 2009 (18.6 million). “
http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2014/04/statistics-argentina
“ In February the agency’s schedule said it would make its first announcement on poverty rates on April 23rd. But that day came and went and the only noticeable action by INDEC was to purge any mention of poverty data from the agency’s calendar of upcoming statistical releases.”
**The Catholic University of Argentina (UCA), a private university that produces its own poverty study, has calculated three to five times more poverty than INDEC in the past few years. In 2011 its estimate of the number of people in poverty stood at 22.9% compared with INDEC’s 6.5%; in 2012 its number was 24.5% versus INDEC’s 5.4%. **
ENRIQUE:
“Health and education as percentage of the GDP rose from 8.4 per cent in the 1990s to 11.9 in 2011-2013. “
http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2014/04/statistics-argentina
“Sharp decline of education in Argentina”
According to UNESCO....not Wikipedia Enrique but reliable?
“The study measures the level of knowledge in mathematics, languages and science in students of third and sixth grade of primary school. 134,000 students in 6,800 classrooms in 250 schools per country were analyzed.
The results were not at all positive for Argentina. In sixth grade, Mathematics, Argentinean students achieved sixth place, and Language, third grade, obtained the ninth grade, which showed a marked decrease in the educational level when compared with similar studies conducted in 1997 and 2006 . In 1997 Argentina had achieved second place in each of the materials behind Cuba.”
Impressive Enrique....no?
2. CFK has hotel holdings with lucrative government contracts...
A: Corruption must be eradicated. Justice must investigate.
Is that an anwser? Really? And you are a journalist?
You must consider 100 reporters an objective international organization...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2014/04/statistics-argentina
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