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Argentina's few friends in the world; China and Russia, Cristina Fernandez foreign policy priorities

Wednesday, April 8th 2015 - 14:44 UTC
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Argentina's foreign policy, under president Cristina Fernández, has new priorities, China and Russia, according to columnist Joaquin Morales Solá, one of the outstanding political analysts of Argentina. This means a radical change from democratic Argentina (since 1983) when the interests of the country were targeted in Latin America, particularly Brazil, Europe and the US, although the importance of the short list varied according to the different elected presidents. Read full article

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  • STroll with the_TroLL

    As I have stated here YEARS ago, Argentina above all wants NOTHING to do with useless foreigners whose nations have absolutely NOTHING to offer, nothing, repeat? nothing.

    At best, and I also have said this, have a loose alliance with Russia and China (which aren't any worse than the US, EU, UK in terms of their human rights and values), but also keep them at arms length and be ready to dump them and renege our agreements when no longer convenient.

    Argentina should play by its own rules and no one elses. No one is obligated to “deal” with us, if they don't like how we treat agreeements, don't let the door hit you.

    Argentina need nothing from any other country. 15 years of this policy have proven how long we can survive without bonds, without trade, and without allies. More than any other nation in the world

    If the USA or Europe, or UK, or China, or Russia, or Australia or Brazil or Chile were force to stop issuing bonds tomorrow PLUS cutting most of their trade, they would all collapse within 96 hours!

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    How do argue with a 12 year old's logic ?

    Sounds like a Millwall fan : “ No one likes us , we don't care ....”

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STroll with the_TroLL

    And we don't. That should be clearest of all to a yorugua like you.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Well, this sums up nicely what I think as well. There's nothing wrong with establishing good relations with China. (Chile was the first in South America and it's been very positive.) However, what she's done is to place her countrymen into servitude to Beijing and p*ss off the majority of the Western Powers, along with the IMF, as well with aligning Argentina with madmen in Venezuela and Iran is irrational. Cristina is amassing some very powerful enemies with Clinton right now the leading Candidate to win the Democratic nomination. On the other hand, the infamous “pirate” Paul Singer considered one of the leading fundraisers by all the major Republican candidates. There will be no friendly gringos in the next administration.

    Here is Chile we watch the slow train wreck with distain.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    “Argentina need nothing from any other country. 15 years of this policy have proven how long we can survive without bonds, without trade, and without allies” .
    Selling soja , wine , apples , wool , olive oil , wheat , sunflower , fish and countless other exports to foreign countries ( especially Cristina's Chinese allies ) is what pays for the planes sociales that you and the rest of your equally illiterate brood sustain yourselves on , but they don't even teach that in schools nowadays .
    But you hit the nail on the head .... “ survive ” , in other words not advance , progress , improve , but simply sink at an ever increasing rate .
    The Yoruguas , the Brazilians , the Chileans and the Falklanders all piss themselves laughing at Argentina , and you and your ilk are both the joke and the punch line .
    Go and do something constructive , like try and sell some pictures of the Virgen on the Roca or the Sarmiento . We oligarchs on the Mitre won't even let you on our new , clean , CHINESE , trains .

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #5 Unsurping Pirate

    I agree, boy is ignorantly dense...

    I lived though the period here in Chile that was called the “Popular Unity” when our Socialist-Marxist government embraced his same ideals. In two years, we went from being a net food exporter, to not being able to feed our populace and shortages of basic goods (including toilet paper). I remember waiting in long lines for stores to open and the frustration when there was little to buy.

    In 1973, Chile's central bank was broke, we had no credit worthiness, our agricultural sector was in shambles and few foreigners were willing to risk investing in my country.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    “This is not the Argentina where I was born and raised.”

    https://eseade.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/esta-no-es-la-argentina-en-que-naci-y-me-crie/

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    #4 “On the other hand, the infamous “pirate” Paul Singer”?

    You are confusing pirate with privateer. Singer has a “letter of marque” duly executed by those debtors from which he is trying to collect. The scofflaws, serial deadbeats, defrauders and those currently found in contempt by a court of competent jurisdiction are on the other side of the law and are Singer's opponents in this matter. Don't attempt to express your political bias in terms of who is a criminal and who isn't.

    chronic.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #8

    Dear cronic,
    I was attempting to be ironic, but you certainly are correct that Mr. Singer has a letter of marque to pursue tall masted ships off the coast of Africa to presidential aircraft.
    Respectfully, Chicureo

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I wonder why Mercopress has closed the comment board on
    http://en.mercopress.com/2015/04/07/argentine-farmers-defy-cristina-fernandez-with-silo-bags-to-hoard-soybeans
    after only 26 posts?

    Do you think it could be due to STroll with the_TroLL 's constant racism and lies?
    --------
    Anyhow, back on topic, good to see that some educated Argentines are concerned about 'getting into bed' with China and Russia. Joaquin Morales Solá is also quite correct in raising the 'isolationist policy' mistake, and to highlight what many posters have been saying here for sometime.
    Namely, “... in private Brazil, Chile and Uruguay admit ”you can't count [on] Argentina; they are unpredictable“. Besides, it is the only country to blindly defend the Venezuelan regime of Maduro. ”

    I hope his words are broadcast loud and clear in Argentina, (though I would suggest he takes extra care in the bathroom. Apparently people have been known to slip over and accidently shoot themselves in the back of the head after criticising Madame La Presidenta...)

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    Mercopress really needs to find somebody who can write these articles in proper English.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    11 They need to post more opinion columnist like JMS more often and add others like Cachanosky, Espert, Asis, Pagni and Van der Kooy.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The size of her ambitions have always been proportional to her failures”,
    got it in one

    big head , big mouth , big ego , big ambitions,.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Usurping Pirate is no yorugua, don't blaim us for what the cat dragged in.
    Furthermore, their despise of SA is clear and their presence in these threads, a manifestation of the fact.
    Clearly, they fail in integration, and most of all just wishes to go home...

    As for this note, Solá was appointed as second in charge for the political section of Clarín. From 1975 to 1987.

    And now he offers his opinion...

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Not quite.

    I can quite believe her taking the job of being the chairwoman of UNASUR or ambassador Mercosur to keep the leftwing latams living the dream and away from the courtrooms in Argentina in 2016.

    The problem is that she is far too “rich bitch” to be a reference for the continental left outside of Argentina

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    # 14 : No , I'm no yorugua .
    I was born the other side of the river .
    I would like to say “ and proud of it ” , but right now , I can't .
    I don't despise Latin America , far from it . I despise the 4th rate filth that run Argentina and brainwash silly kids with nationalist fantasies whilst keeping them in crime ridden ignorance and poverty .
    If I did go back to live in S America , I would live in Chile though .
    They have their heads screwed on and think like the rest of the world .

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I agree.
    Chile is great too.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    “As for this note, Solá was appointed as second in charge for the political section of Clarín. From 1975 to 1987.

    And now he offers his opinion...”

    ............ Meaning to say what ??

    Yes, Solá has a very respectable career and is one of the best journalist in the country.

    Nothing to to with Horacio “Perro” Verbitsky chief ideologue of Kirchnerism now columnist in Pagina 12, ex montonero CIA double agent in the 70s??

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Is the strolling troll on drugs or just plain ignorant?

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1. Have you checked your import/export statistics? I'll be sure to tell Britain's government to cut your throat. Here's something you can clarify. If slugland needs nothing from any other country, what about WTO disputes? Shouldn't your cesspit just end all imports and exports?
    @14. “what the cat dragged in”. You, apparently. Decomposed, rotting, effluent, necrophiliac.
    @15. British and US forces snipers. Go for it guys.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Too bad they tore down the Cárcel de Caseros in Parque Patricios. It would have been perfect to place Cristina there in her presidential retirement...

    #16&17

    Chile does have its problems and although we're making many social advances, we still have a long way to go. In my humble opinion, it's the best place to live in SA, as long as you're acceptable to an occasional earthquake, tsunami or volcanic eruption....

    If Argentina could just get their act together, it could re-emerge as one of the great economic powers within perhaps 20 years.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Clarín and La Nación.

    How very respectable...

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    22. Yes, the two most read and most important papers in this country.

    You are a wanker Stevie. Go f:&k yourself

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL

    Just leave us alone, respectfully said and will say it only once. We don't want Europe, North America, Brazil, or anyone. No value to us. Thank you for reading this.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Toby, People would Argentina alone if they paid their bills and honored their contracts/treaties.
    Alas you all are a bunch of scumbag scofflaws and deadbeats.
    So you get exactly what you deserve.

    BTW remember me telling you to buy/stock up garrafas? You had a very good return, methinks over 500% in the last year.
    I won't even ask you for a cut.
    You can thank me any time
    Publicly

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Before getting too enthusiastic about the “isolation” in which Argentina would be sinking, readers should know that Mercopress has followed the easy path of uncritically recycling an opinion column published in La Nacion--one of the country's leading opposition papers--and presented it as “news.”
    Furthermore, Mercopress labels Joaquín Morales Solá as “one of the outstanding political analysts in Argentina.”
    It could have warned its readers of the role of Solá and La Nación: opposition media going about their task of keep throwing mud in hopes some will stick--they need to keep the fire burning after recent news stories that made big headlines and ended up in smoke.
    Inadvertently, Solá reminds us how far have we come as a country from shameful times when then president Carlos Menem memorized a few words in English to ask God to shed His blessings over George W. Bush, then U.S. president. Argentina was not accused of being “isolated” in those times. It had the wrong kind of “friends” however judging by how it all ended.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Few friends?

    I am surprised they have these two!

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL

    Why would we want a “friend” like you?

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #26 Enrique Massot

    How can you say that “...La Nacion--one of the country's leading opposition papers--” when Cristina herself has such nice things to recently say about the newspaper?
    http://www.bubblear.com/the-cadena-nacional-season-07-episode-15/

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    28. So you can eat and be keep yourself clean.

    What no public Thank you? How come? If you listened to me you should be able to feed your family this month just on one of the garrafas I recommended you buy.
    Just one.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL

    I find it funny you think lying makes lying true. I eat without any of foreigner's money.

    You however, would die tomorrow if everyone cut the USA from trade, and dumped your dollar. Just a reminder that the hand you feed holds your back.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @26

    I'm not a British nationalist that hates Argentina because an old dispute. I'm not a Chilean nazionalist that hates Argentina because all the old territorial disputes between both countries ended leaving them with hard feelings (some of them still dream to get the Patagonia by British hands..). I'm not a Falkland Islander that, reasonably, don't want to be part of Argentina and prefer to keep on living under the British control and be part of the Crown.

    The real thing is that Argentina lost its international path decades ago when Peron ruled the country. Peron admired Mussolini and had Francisco Franco, and Gral Stroessner as friends and ally. Peronist governments were friends, and even decorated, Pinochet, Batista, Ceausescu, Gaddafi, Chavez, Maduro...what a democratic team !!!! as a result of decades of being friend of Third World Countries dictatorships Argentina ended internationally buoying and isolated. The fact is that current peronists are stuck in the old times so they kept on thinking, and dreaming about, the “third position”...a dreamed “neutral” attitude where the World doesn't exist because “we don't need them”.

    But who, on the hell, would like to be partner of a country whose leaders have no true commitment with real democratic values?

    Criticising a journalist becuase he writes in two newpapers that can be considered of the opposition is not a good way to analize the reality.

    During the last decade Argentina lost international influence and friends. Scarcelly ever a leader of a democratic first world country visit Argentina..what for?

    In additon, I ask myself...who get benefits from an unpredictable Argentina? ...from a “neutral” Argentina....

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Mrs Kirchner never spoke on behalf of all Argentinians and soon she will be gone.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    31. Why would anyone dump the dominant currency of the world?
    You're just dreaming.
    It could never happen without destroying their own economies at the same time.
    It is the beauty of being the worlds largest economy, largest trading entity, most powerful country in the world.
    You'll never know what its like to live in such an amazing place.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #32 pgerman

    During my lifetime with all sincerity, have I heard any of my countrymen ever talk seriously about recovering Patagonia. Yes, we've been p*ssed off about the Andes frontier in the area and were ready to war over the Beagle Channel, but not Patagonia. We're not like the Bolivians...

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @33 Make that a goner

    @troll_up_my_heiny
    You're such a little b*tch!

    Are you happy about Felisa Micheli not going to prison?
    What about K-INDEC not measuring poverty any longer (because its worse than its ever been)?

    I'll would like to meet you in BsAs and beat your sorry *ss to pulp. I'll do it with one hand behind my back. Argentina is destroyed thanks to scumbags like yourself. It's time we put BsAs lampposts to better use.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    31
    “I find it funny you think lying makes lying true. I eat without any of foreigner's money”

    You don't live in Argentina though so who do you consider to be foreigners in this context? Canadians?

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    I love that foreigners come here and spend money that benefits me.

    I love that tourists pay tax on purchase which funds my safety and prosperity.
    I love that international students pay money to my university so I don't have to.
    I love that I live with 2 Colombians that seem to dance so much.
    I love that I can buy fresh tortillas from an Irish-run Mexican restaurant.
    I love that my boss is Iranian and I sit next to a woman born in India.
    I love that none of my neighbours except for the kids next door were born here.
    I love the real Gözleme from the Turks near the Queen Vic.
    I love that an Argentinean serves me pizza on campus.
    I love that my tutors were born in Canada, Italy and Hungary but live and study here.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @35

    It's a fascinating question though, isn't? I've asked on another thread why the Anglo-Chilean plot to wrest territory from the Poor, Poor Republic of Argentina was not enacted in 1982 when the PPRA was defeated on land, sea, and air, militarily, legally, diplomatically, and politically, and I'm still looking forward to the answer.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #39 Hans

    With all due respect, the last time I was asked that exact specific question was when I was in 2008, assigned as a foreign naval reserve officer in the beautiful town of Bedford for training...

    Interesting question...

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @39

    HansNiesund, no matter that you believe you know about everything of SA and Argentina, the real thing is that you IGNORE all about its history and current situation.

    In addition, I have never mentioned any plot. By the way did you read the information released all around the World about the activities of British Ingeligence services in Argentina?

    @40

    “During my lifetime with all sincerity, have I heard any of my countrymen ever talk seriously about recovering Patagonia.”? I don't believe you

    I have the asnwer to the questions some britts made you:

    The british failed to attack Tierra del Fuego for their own lack of skills, lack of information, ignoring the weather conditions, the large distances no matter they were the “top” troops of the UK. If they were not able to succesfully attack a base in the Patagonia. Do you think the Chilean Army or Navy would be able to succesfully attack Argentina?

    I told you before, chilean militars always, but always, failed when they had to defend chilean interests against Argentina.

    But I invite all of you to visit Chilean fascists sites (the sites that love Augusto Pinochet) to read the hard feelings against Argentina for having prevailed in almost any dispute.

    Apr 08th, 2015 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    @31

    So Toby, speaking of the hand that (sort of) feeds you: What are the odds that your country's current trajectory ends in anything other than another Junta?

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @41

    Actually you've twice alluded now to an Anglo-Chilote scheme to deprive the Poor, Poor Republic of Arjunteena of part of its territory, and now you've just set out to explain why the plot wasn't acted upon in 1982, which seems a little unnecessary if there was never any plot in the first place.

    But never mind. Where can I find all the gory details of the dastardly Brit feasibility study for the invasion of Patagonia? I'd love to know more.

    Otherwise, I sincerely hope that British intelligence services are active in those countries that threaten us, however feebly and ineptly, and if they aren't active in a country as irrational and unstable as the PPRA, somebody needs their arse kicked.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #43 Hans

    Referring our esteemed #41:

    Whale oil beef hooked! (Use you best Irish accent to understand...). What a “beef hooked” pack of Argentine lies! ... ¡Que Mierda!

    A perfect example: The Infamous Laguna del Desierto war consisted when 4 Chilean Carabineros were ambushed by by 90 Argentine soldiers, killing one of our policemen and seriously injuring another. How “beef hooked” brave the bastardos were...

    It has been rare... Very rare, that our dear brothers have ever honored a treaty or simple agreement with us, including the “British award of 1903”... Saying that, we have no intentions to take their precious “beef hooked” Patagonia away from them... We just want to maintain what's ours.

    There is a wonderful saying: “living well is the best revenge” and you know what? Chile is living the best of all SA nations right now because we have focused on a free market economy with little corruption and embraced upon a non aggressive strong defense. Our dear brothers across the Andes can “beef hooked” themselves...

    In reference to your earlier question, not only was Chile too weak militarily in 1982, but politically there was no interest. We were aggressive over a hundred years ago, but for the past 70 years, our strategy is to maintain a defensive capability to fight 3 countries simultaneously. The UK vigorously supported out philosophy.

    Regarding your last paragraph, Kindly be assured that at a stone frigate in the central part of England exists that is “ferreting” information from numerous cooperative sources to maintain the quid pro quo of friendly cooperation.

    Enjoying a lovely bottle of Carmernere as I write this and sending my very best regards,

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @43 HansNiesund

    If you want to keep on trying to be an arrogant and “smart ass” with me you´d better start reading about argentine history. Otherwise, you will be boring and shameful.

    @44

    Firstly I would like to offer my apologizes the honest and honorable chilean people that might read this since it can be offensive.

    Secondly it has never been a “Laguna del Desierto War”. It just happened that a chilean garrison that entered (without asking for the “green-light”) the argentine territory, they were discovered, stoped and urged to go back to Chile. The rest is saddly well known. Some chilean soldiers killed, wounded and made prissioner while the rest ran away leaving thier comrades behind.

    Whith these people. Who would ever dream to take some land from Argentina?

    Finally, Chile now is in good shape which is something good from chilean people and is the result of chilean work and a wise democratic leading class (either conservative or socialists). Your beloved (and Hansniesund) nazi dictator Augusto Pinochet (friend of Gral Peron) has nothing to do with it.

    Enjoy your bottle. I prefer a light coke...

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #45 pgerman

    Oh really? Through mutual agreement, Argentina accepted the 1903 treaty and then in 1965 murdered a Chilean border patrol policeman and seriously injured another as the 2 remaining escaped...

    Because of 1978, I have to accept that your country's arrogance and stupidity gifted me the wonderful opportunity to enter the naval academy with a full scholarship, afterwards sail months in a tall masted jewel of the seas and continue to know Canada, America and the UK while serving my country. It's been a great ride...

    B.T.W. Light Coke will eventually destroy your mind...

    Anyway, if you even try to rebuild your forces with Chinese or Russian, or even Israeli modified old French fighters... You're screwed...

    In the meantime, we've been begging your esteemed country to jointly build a railway, financed by the Japanese, under the Andes to improve trade. You're response is mañana...

    When you become 14 years old, you'll partially understand...

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Everyone_needs_ResveratrolL

    @42

    I would say 2/5.

    Of those 2/5, 3/10 it ends in a Marxist-Maoist dictatorship. 6/10 it ends in the instauration of a 4th Reich in Argentina, 1/10 that it ends in some sort of civil war (but not break-up).

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @45 pgerman

    Excuse me, but it's only in a spirit of open historical inquiry that I'm trying to establish what evidence exists for the dastardly Anglo-Chilote plot to dismember the Poor, Poor Republic of Arjunteena. Obviously enough, if there isnt any actual evidence, I might be forced to conclude that it's just another PPRA conspiracy theory intended once more to cast the poor, poor PPRA in the role of hapless victim in order to satisfy some peculiar psychological and/or cultural impulse which I am having difficulty getting my head round. I'm sure you wouldn't want that.

    @44 Chicureo

    I don't have your class, I'm afraid, just beer by the beach for me. But best regards with it.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alejomartinez

    It is SO OBVIOS that UK and its ally Mercopress are seriously concerned over regional growing support to Argentine sovereignty rights over the islands, besides China, Russia and so so many others, that we don't need Snowden's contribution to clarify the obvious. In your face and despite all your efforts to prove otherwise. UN will always prevail

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #49
    So speaks a man whose country IGNORED the UN in 1982 !

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 49 AlloVera

    Firstly, you numbnut, MP is nothing other than a publication service.

    They just repeat other publications which they think will be of interest to their ENGLISH SPEAKING READERS, not to those whose first “language” is low level jibber-jabber.

    If that makes them “on the side of the UK” according to you then keep deluding yourself.

    Point two: TDC ignored the UN in 1982 and invaded the Falklands (there are NO Malvinas you twat) shit in the Post Office and peoples houses and generally strutted around the place like peacocks until the British arrived and threw their arses off the place in double quick time. Typical argie cowards, the trait that remains to this day.

    If you think Snowden “revealed” something I am not surprised as you seem to be bat-shit stupid to me.

    You are not “The Lunatic from Chew Butt” attempting yet another sock puppet by any chance, are you?

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    CHICUREO:

    Kinda OT, but in your own words, why do you think that Allende`s period is so idealized, and none of his flaws are even mentioned?

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ishmael

    @44 Chicureo

    Please explain;
    how do you ambush a military outpost, as the one settled by Carabineros on argentine territory near Laguna del Desierto in 1965?
    If you really are a Navy officer as you pretend, you must know this is a heap of crap, a complete nonsense. You take an outpost by assault, you can´t ambush it.
    Now tell it like it was: a group of armed Carabineros were stupidly sent to crew an outpost into argentine territory. They were prompted to surrender not by soldiers but by a frontier patrol of Gendarmería of about twelve men (not 90, as the silly chilean propaganda pretends to make their ridicule failure look heroic), they attempted to resist using their weapons and Lt. Merino of Carabineros died on argentine soil as a result. The rest were captured and sent back to Chile in a few days and never returned.
    Chile should have sent more and better men if they pretended to invade Argentina.
    By the way, no one in Argentina remembers nor gives a damn about this stupid episode. But in Chile poor Merino is a national hero. To each his own.
    No matter what happened so long ago, Laguna del Desierto keeps on being a place of extraordinary and peaceful beauty, one of many in Argentina. I encourage you to make a trip to our country to pay a visit to the place, you wont regret it.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 313toBioBio

    @32 Peron was a nazi and Argentina's all jewish regime from the president to her ecn ministers have wrecked the economic future of Argentina in cooperation with Dilma Rousseff. Not coincidence. Chile doesn't win in this. China loses. USA wins.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @51

    The revelations of Edward Snowden, through 'The Intercept', shown a massive electronic espionage directed against Argentina. Under this activities, the actions were carried forward due to growing international pressure to peacefully solve the sovereignty dispute over the islands (but not again any militar risk).

    Such actions violate the right to privacy as set forth in resolutions 68/167 and 69/166 of the United Nations General Assembly.

    Both resolutions emphasize that 'surveillance and illegal or arbitrary interception of communications and the unlawful or arbitrary collection of personal data, constitute acts of gross intrusion, violate the rights to privacy and freedom of expression and can be contrary to the precepts of democratic societies.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    ”Nissan Motor will invest $600 million in Argentina and will become an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) with the domestic production there of an all-new NP300 Frontier pick-up.”
    Green Car Congress, April 9, 2015: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/04/201504008-nissan.html
    So much for an isolated Argentina.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @55

    Showing one investment that breakes the rule proves the rule.

    The Nissan truck will be manufactured in the current Renault plant next year when the current government will be part of history.

    It's the very same situation as the risk country and the value of bonds.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #54
    We have to know what our enemy is planning. We were caught out once !

    #54
    Where are they going to be sold ?

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @55
    Whoopdedoo, Nissan is investing US$ 600 million and it is news , must be a one off, can't see anyone in their right minds investing in a country that stole US$ 70 BILLION.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    Actually what Nissan is doing is betting that the next Whacky Leadership won't be able to hold the inflation balloon any longer, so Argentina will become a low-cost production center.
    At which point the workers will be making the equivalent of about $0.50 an hour...

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 54 Pee German

    So why does a Nazi, living in Canada, pretending to be an argie, think the UK should not spy on the whacky races run by TMBOA?

    Why not is the real question.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #52 SebaSvtz

    You know we have a large statue of him today in front of our national palace...
    The left had it's little victory and we don't even care.
    He was an idealist that tried to help the poor, but so was Hugo Chavez.
    ...it's sort of like seeing teenagers wearing Che Guevara t-shirts on the streets...
    ...you want to ask them if they understand that the bastard was a ruthless cold blooded killer, but then you think that you'd just be waistline your time...
    Most foreign journalists lean to the left and write accordingly.

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina's Ambassador Summoned For “Dressing Down”
    http://forces.tv/07787763

    Argentine ambassador questioned at Foreign Office in Falklands defence row
    Alicia Castro summoned to Foreign Office in London after launching new criticism of Britain's plan to boost defences on South Atlantic islands
    http://forces.tv/07787763

    .

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“”“”“Such actions violate the right to privacy as set forth in resolutions...”“”“””

    I dont care.

    Whatchya gonna do about it?

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Tell her mum,

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Argentina continues to be isolated from the world:
    WASHINGTON, April 7th, 2015 – The World Bank Board of Executive Directors today approved three new projects for Argentina totaling US$265 million, focused on expanding access to renewable energy among isolated rural populations; preserving native forests through sustainable management benefitting those communities dependent on them, and protecting vulnerable natural areas.
    http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2015/04/07/energia-renovables-argentina-pobladores-rurales

    Apr 09th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Isolated doesn't mean Argentina can't feed from the trough.

    Just means no one wants to be seen standing near them as they do.

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Approvals doesn't mean disbursements.
    I wouldn't hold my breath.
    The IMF should be making its decision soon to throw Argentina out of the group.
    Then they'll lose status in every Int'l Bank.
    Watch the next month or so.

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Once Russia is in the door they have a history of staying REGARDLESS of the wishes of the now subject country.

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    THE CAPRICES OF THE TILINGUERIA, (THE CONSECUENCES OF CULTURAL COLONALISM).
    I can respect if there is a sector of the population from this country who feels identifficated with conservative values, however it's absolutly dishonest to insist on that stupid argument, about the soposed argentine isolation.
    It's evident that some people don't understand still that there are other alternatives for international relations. It's obvious that among the different latin leaders there are bif differences, only an ignorant or an idiot would think that they are all the same, however it's doens't mean that they can't have common policies, in relation to some issues, like for example, the rejection to the injerence of the u. s. a. in the problems of our nations, or a posture against vulture funds, or the support for our claim for the malvinas etc, etc, etc. The problem is that the only one international relation that the tilingueria from this country accepts, is the submission to u. s. a., that's why they keep on saying that argentina is isolated from the world.
    Although i didn't like the policie of international relations of the decade of the 90's, which became arg. into one more colony of the i. m. f., i would be too idiot if a said that argentina was isolated from the world scenario, however for the argentine tilingueria, if the president from the country isn't received by the president from u. s. .a, then it means that we are an isolated nation.
    There is a mountain of things that i reject absolutly from russia and china, however it doens't mean that we can't have trade relation with them.
    On the other hand, some of those so called, political analists, insist on underestimating c. f. k., instead of making serious critics for the falencies of her government, perhaps, in october, they will have to hit their heads on the wall again, as they did in 2007 and 2011.

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Nice to know that even you are becoming anti CFK

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #69
    Axel, could you try using paragraphs separated by one space so I can actually follow what you are writing. In the above you have used 25 lines of print without a space which makes it difficult to keep the narrative flowing.
    Also, use capital letters where appropriate eg U.S.A. NOT usa, Russia, China and I instead of i.

    I realise that you are not a native English speaker and I am not attempting a cheap jibe BUT with a little more care it would make your posts less difficult to read.

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Clearly Stroll with does not understand the real world, although the Argentine is quite good at it, you simply do not renege upon international agreements, because these people remember these things and to survive you have to trade with other nations. However, courting with China and Russia upgrades the military geographic position of the Falkland islands . There is no way that NATO wants to see Russia and China creeping in through the back door and gaining a foothold in the South Atlantic, that is a receipe for American troops asking for facilities on the Falklands and for NATO military shipping strengthening its stance down there. As for not having traded with other nations for 15 years, well there are a lot of tins of Corned Beef on the shelves over here in the UK and no doubt Argentine shares are traded in other countries ...Then, of course you have the problem of Argentean debts . You have sizeable Shale gas too, and no doubt you would wish to export it but if, as you say, you do not wish to, then the 'rubbish foreigners', you speak about, will jump into the vacuum and sell it instead

    Apr 10th, 2015 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    67 Skip

    “Argentina's few friends in the world; China and Russia, Cristina Fernandez foreign policy priorities”

    Is this a case of “Great minds think alike”

    Or is it:-

    “Fool's never differ” ????

    Questioning minds are asking.....................................

    Apr 11th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    CLYDE 15: Thank you for your advice, i'll take your critic.
    On the other hand, the word tilingueria doesn't have any translation in english, it's actualy a local word, which is used to describe those people who don't think, and who repeat the myths or the too partial truths, that are usually published in the press.
    BRITON: Unfortunately you made a wrong interpretation of my lecture. The fact that i am a pro kirchnerist, doesn't mean that i won't recognize the falencies of c. f. k's government, in fact, i always talk about them in most my comments.

    Apr 12th, 2015 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Sometimes Argentina is happily referring to WikiLeaks, sometimes they aren't.

    WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton questions the mental health of Cristina Kirchner

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8169552/WikiLeaks-Hillary-Clinton-questions-the-mental-health-of-Cristina-Kirchner.html

    Apr 13th, 2015 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Axel Arg @75

    Actually, you'll find “tilingo” in the RAE dictionary if you can be bothered to look.

    Apr 13th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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