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Gazprom and YPF will sign agreement to develop Argentina shale oil and gas deposits
Argentine energy company YPF CEO Miguel Galuccio is scheduled to sign on Wednesday in Moscow a contract on joint exploitation of shale oil and gas in the rich Vaca Muerta fields of Patagonian province Neuquén. The contract is part of the bilateral agenda to be addressed by visiting Argentine president Cristina Fernandez on Thursday, when she meets with Vladimir Putin. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAssuming this goes ahead and isn't another propaganda statement (all air and no substance) from the Argentines, I wonder just what Cristina had to give Putin in order for Gazprom to risk drilling in Argentina.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably most of the gas and oil, a bit of land, and all of Argentina's food.
It really doesn't look good for Argentina now though.
I'm more worried about the fracking.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are just a charlatan. According to you, deal or no deal, you will always “buscarle el pelo al huevo”.
By western standards, this is a great deal.
@2 SUPA TUPA
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, you're saying, by Easter standards, this NOT a good deal??
Fracking Stevie - do you know Russia's industrial record for respecting the environment??
Look out for many Dead Cow gas projects...
http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2014-08-industrial-pollution-public-enemy-number-one-russian-environmentalists-tell-bellona-conference
http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2014-08-industrial-pollution-public-enemy-number-one-russian-environmentalists-tell-bellona-conference
http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2014-08-industrial-pollution-public-enemy-number-one-russian-environmentalists-tell-bellona-conference
http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2014-08-industrial-pollution-public-enemy-number-one-russian-environmentalists-tell-bellona-conference
http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/radioactive-waste-and-spent-nuclear-fuel/2014-08-industrial-pollution-public-enemy-number-one-russian-environmentalists-tell-bellona-conference
By environmental standards, fracking is like a drug addict glancing at his balls for the last vein...
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 04 SUPA TUPA
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very 'telling' that you would choose that metaphor, but then - you would know.
:-)
You'll understand when your nose starts to bleed or when your tap water spits flames...
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0This will amount to nothing,
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No company makes investments to lose money
and until oil gets over 80/bbl nothing is going to be happening in VM
and we probably won't see $80/bl again for a very very long time
I bet we see $30 before we see 80.
“Gazprom and YPF will sign agreement to develop Argentina shale oil and gas deposits”
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so the 2nd biggest oil company on earth is interested in vaca muerta... amongst many, many others, all of them between the top 25.
not a surprise.
now lets compare with what a tiny little oil company have to say about those cesspits in the islets:
“Premier drastically cuts spending; Falklands projects included in 2015 agenda”
”Premier Oil also said it was reducing investments to develop fields by 40% to around 600 million.
as i wisely said, the islets must stick to the production of guano.
clearly, oil industry is not for them.
Looks like a Fracking mess to me.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like an excellent deal to me. Half of argieland will belong to China. The other half will belong to Russia. The argie 'peasants' (98% of the population) will enter serfdom in the rice paddy fields and the opium fields, the mines and so on. This is good for the West as we can bomb and missile somewhere secure in the knowledge that we'll be destroying Chinese, Russians and some brain-dead slaves.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 08. The difference is in other countries when agreements are sign something actually happens. Just like The Falklands being explored and oil extracted.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Argentina agreements are sign and nothing happens.
It's just a fake presser
How do you not understand this yet?
See my post above, nobody goes into business to lose money and you'll probably be retired or dead before anything of substance happens in VM.
@7
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you so, that's three times in three days:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/22/study-links-natural-gas-drilling-in-texas-to-swarm-quakes/
So all over the Central USA, you have now made the land more unstable, and prone to damaging people's property, PLUS as I proved earlier this year poisoning the entire water supply.
For what?
For a couple of years of high oil prices... which are now over.
Now you'll be left with hundreds of useless, unprofitable wells; left with 20 dollar oil, left with earthquakes, and a completely poisoned water and useless breadbasket (plus California a desert).
NorthAmoans aren't too smart.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/22/study-links-natural-gas-drilling-in-texas-to-swarm-quakes/
Burn baby burn
Russian-Argentine cooperation for fracking appears highly political and the implications that the Kremlin is exploiting environmental fears over fracking - while encouraging fracking where it is advantageous to Russian interests - should be a concern.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- “Why Putin Hates Fracking - Russia's president is really worried about what it will do to the environment. OK, not really.”: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/26/why-putin-hates-fracking.html
- “Russian Money Suspected Behind Fracking Protests”: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/26/why-putin-hates-fracking.html
12. Bahahahah Toby that link is an advertisement for a “financial news letter”.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG you are so stupid.
BTW there's not one documented case of water poisoning from fracking. Not one.
Ad these tiny earthquakes ( I guess they fit the definition) I'd call them tremors are nothing to be concerned about. In the end it will all amount to nothing.
If I were you I'd be more worried about being raped in an Rg taxi. Seems to be happening a lot lately.
Or getting killed by a drug shoot out.
More and more BA is becoming Caracas.
Just like I said it would.
:)
There are many documented cases of waste water contamining grobund water, yanqui. As there are many documented cases of “fire Taps”, where methan gas accidentally migrated into grund water Reserves, resulting in methan gas in the water pipes.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina ranks as the 169th freest economy in the world compared the the USA at 12th and their buddies Russia at 143. I guess it takes a certain fish to swim in that cesspool.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.heritage.org/index/country/argentina#limited-government
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/argentina#limited-government
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/argentina#limited-government
What is it been.....3 years now that Argentina stole the oil company and they are still pandering BJ's to get oil drillers to drill for them. Can an RG troll tell me why YPF cannot drill themselves.....tobi have you an answer to that?
“While the rest of Latin America booms, Argentina is set to pay the price of economic mismanagement for years to come.”
“many Chevrons’ are needed with transparent contracts.”
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/argentina#limited-government
Oh no.......not ANOTHER MOU:
“Argentine state oil company YPF is close to signing a memorandum of understanding”
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/argentina#limited-government
“two Buenos Aires-based sources who asked not to be named and provided no details of the planned deal.”
Buena suerta trolls......good thing you guys and dolls do not have to live there.
15. Except that's a lie that has been debunked many times.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://reason.com/archives/2013/07/05/the-top-5-lies-about-fracking
Stevie, you're a blockhead.
Where and when have Gazprom International got their experience in unconventional gas and oil fields? All their drilling has been carried out in conventional fields!!!
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let us all remember that unlike the North American, Chinese, and European shale fields the oil and gas are 10 times deeper. This means something in the region of 15 times as expensive to drill. The drilling costs in Vaca Muerta are probably higher than in the Sea Lion licences!!!!!!!!
15 Stevie
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There are many documented cases of waste water contamining grobund water, yanqui. As there are many documented cases of “fire Taps”, where methan gas accidentally migrated into grund water Reserves, resulting in methan gas in the water pipes”
Of that is the basis for your argument- please show links to those cases, so we can assess the validity and the sources of your info.
When you said,
“I would be more worried about fracking”
I naturally assumed you meant fracking in Argentina's VM.
I guess it doesn't matter when it's not in the US, right??
Are ALL your sources and ideas from the editorials of RT news??
Frac'ing is VERY bad! Not only is it harmful to the environment but it is very dangerous to perform and potentially injurious to area inhabitants. Toxic chemicals are used. And most sinister is that it actually reduces the life and total output of a well. Many otherwise valuable reservoirs have been severely damaged by the practice. Its proliferation is a Schlumberger plot in concert with a cabal of world financiers. The IMF is suppressing research that indicates a strong link between the high volume water injection required to produce shale gas and the otherwise inexplicable sudden rise in the incidence of near earthquake clusters. Putting any water into the ground is bad. Solar and wind are our only hope.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 020 Chronic
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am far from wanting to minimise concern over Fracking.
I remember them doing it on a small scale where I was working in the industry.
One has to wonder if increased earthquakes are due to Fracking in the region, or if regions that harbour oil/ gas deposits are more prone to quakes naturally?
I don't pretend to know.
I am curious as to where Stevie gets his information, and whether it is ideologically/politically weighted.
He seems to be sowing fears of Fracking in the U.S. or Western regional oil reserves, but is ignoring those same concerns when it involves Russian, Chinese, or Argentine extraction of oil/gas.
Fracking may well warrant serious concern, but I doubt that is Stevie's motivation for raising the point.
LOL. Just winding the rotting roadkillians!
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frac'ing is conducted on much too small a scale to produce any measureably seismic activity. The waste water disposal however is another matter. We need to open up more disposal wells and reduce the concentration of injection over limited areas. As you are well aware - there would be very little production without acidizing/frac'ing/well stimulations. The morons aren't aware of the conductor pipe/surface casing/intermediate strings/long strings/centralizers/scratchers/ cementing shoes/power tong torquing/production tubing/bottom hole packers/cement jobs/hydraulic tests/bond logs that prevent and confirm the elemination of communication of formation fluids with surface formations. Next.
chronic asshole
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Frac'ing is VERY bad! Not only is it harmful to the environment but it is very dangerous to perform and potentially injurious to area inhabitants”
and THIS seems to be very, very bad too:
“Deepwater Horizon Disaster Two Years Later”
http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/environment/deepwater-horizon-disaster-two-years-later.html
british engineering...sad joke
What in your poor misinformed mind do you think hydraulic fracturing has to do with the Deep Water Horizon disaster?
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another load of flim-flam from Miguel-Galuccio and the 'promise', by a Russian crook no less, to spend money in VM!
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we all know where that will go, don't we?
@ 23 POLLY
Polly, when are you going to listen? BP is more than 60% owned by the yanks!
The 'engineere' were Haliburton, an American company who do not understand the term 'safety in operations'.
The US politician are in their pockets, just look at Iraq.
But why let the facts spoil a good LIE?
Has anyone actually seen and argentine oil well or platform
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do they even exist,
or is it another argy myth.
23 Pablo - petite-voice
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didnt think we would see you again, as pabo - aren't you the 'new' poster “Viorus01” or whatever...?
“The 'engineere' were Haliburton, an American company who do not understand the term 'safety in operations'.”
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Halliburton was the cementer.
The responsibility for allowing the well to kick lies solely at the feet of BP and TO.
Schlumberger conducted the mudlogging. (Did you guys find your well records yet?)
If TO would have recognized the weight cut (or the gain in system volume)
and added barite premix the event could have been easily neutralized. This happens many times every day and is dealt with in this manner without incident. Everything that happened afterward was in an effort to cure this omission.
When the the annulus unloadeded the string was still in the hole. The pipe was sheared and the blind rams were actuated on the BOP. The shearing was incomplete and pipe fouled the blinded rams. [I'd of closed the pipe rams.] [The cement had not been allowed to fully cure by BP.] The gas ignited and the rig burnt.
@ 28 chronic
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And WHO owns the most of BP?
It's the yanks.
Obumma went on TV and categorically blamed the Brits: he was probably crying over his Muslim father that the Brits 'hurt'.
But haven't the Brits PAID for it with all the carpet bagging 'lawyers' clamouring for anybody who will sign a claim, whether they were lawful claims or not?
Fifteen (15) were killed in Baytown as a result of cost cutting measures coming directly from BP London. One was family. Flog your BP line elsewhere - I know who the reckless fools are.
Apr 22nd, 2015 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troy, as I stated, fracking is an environmental issue, not ideological.
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's as bad in Argentina as in USA.
31 Stevie
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, thanks for that.
Who cares what the Heritage of Anglo Supremacism Foundation has to say about Argentina, when they are one of the most arrantly anti-argentine organizations on this planet???
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please.
33
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0...really on a completely different planet from the rest of us, isn't he... ??
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/08/1207777/-Looks-like-Heritage-hires-them-racist-AND-stupid-these-days#
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess the facts are also, from your point of view, from another planet.
The marionette and Johnny “oldcomb”
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting to see two Canucks from British Columbia posting in the same article.
36 voice
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a wit you are.
Did I spell that right??
So now that Troy Tempest has “struck out looking”, anyone else want to field my question about the Heritage of Anglo Supremacism Foundation?
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/09/jason-richwine-doesnt-understand-why-people-are-mad-at-him/
“In brief, my dissertation shows that recent immigrants score lower than U.S.-born whites on a variety of cognitive tests. Using statistical analysis, it suggests that the test-score differential is due primarily to a real cognitive deficit rather than to culture or language bias.”
So, point 1: he argues that a certain group is genetically inferior in intellect, and that this is irreversible.
point 2: this group is the Hispanic race, which according to everyone here “doesn't exist” (so as to negate the “Anglo” designation in use in Argentina).
Yet clearly as I have argued before, not only is it seen as a race in NorthAmoland, but it is studied as a genetically identifiable race at that.
So don't tell me I have been lied to by Anglos (a race of people that includes Michael Jordan to Kate Moss) yet again!
I suspect some mass dodging of this message will promptly ensue.
Mr Floatie, the marionette and Johnny “oldcomb” best friend..
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-NWbzB3ut0
39 MA
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, how old are you ?
Troy Tempest?
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, how old are you ?
Seriously,
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I only ask because you seem to be very young.
One might say, infantile...
Re; #16
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 'heritage foundation' really aren't a reliable source, hugely biased, they're about as neutral and reliable a source of information as a 40's communist or fascist pamphlet.
Its a republican circle jerk.
@ 30 chronic
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am truly sorry that you lost a family member but BP is owned by the US: that IS a fact.
Obumma must have known that when he deliberately pointed the finger ONLY at the Brits.
But I will pose this question to you: you are operating a rig in the Gulf and somebody sitting in an office 5,000M away instructs you to 'cut costs' which in your experience is likely to lead to disaster, even deaths.
What would you do? Don't tell me you would do it because you would not.
I said Baytown when in reality it was Texas City on the other side of the channel. 2005. They've got smoking guns all the way back to London. BP management is the worst in the biz. Amoco were champs by comparison.
Apr 23rd, 2015 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would say that Halliburton did not do a good cement job on the Deepwater Horizon well and the BOP failed to do its job. I worked for Hallibuton in Libya on a blowout, they were to put it kindly a “ bunch of cowboys ” always cutting corners and had unsafe practices.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 golfcronie
Apr 25th, 2015 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not surprised to hear that.
In the 80's during my rig stint in Northern Canada, safety and professionalism was just emerging, as workers started to be educated - the Imperial Oil Roughnecks and Derricks were laughed at as soft and unmanly, for following safety practices - men took risks to, “...just get the job done”.
A lot of the senior personnel, Drillers and 'Pushes, were “0ld school” tough guys who lived and learned all their lives, in the field.
Only the visiting Engineers had an education.
I am sure much of that has died out by now, and it is far more regulated, but some of that mentality is still out there.
A lot of the guys just don't know better...
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