MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Malvinas' oil rig drilling 'technical problem' triggers strong concern release from Argentina
Argentina's Foreign Ministry expressed concerns on Friday over the failure in the blow-out preventer, BOP, valve of the “Isobel Deep” exploration well currently being drilled to the north of the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, as reported by Falkland Oil and Gas Limited (FOGL). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCry babies, “ don't cry for me Argentina ” springs to mind, no es una problema muchachos
Apr 25th, 2015 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0There has to be oil there for there to be an oil spill. Think told us there wasn't?!?
Apr 25th, 2015 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure that the Falkland Islanders appreciate hectoring Hector's statements of concern for the marine envirionment around their Islands. How neighbourly of him!
Apr 25th, 2015 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now he knows all about the technicalities of oil exploration, does he? ¡Boludo! ¡Nabo! ¡Pelotudo!
Apr 25th, 2015 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, the home of Heath and Safety lol.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0So the operator here is been dammed for following standard operating procedure when a BOP test failed to respond correctly to a standard operating safety check-up and test.
The only BOP that Gollum has any experience with is the tapered and annular ringed rubber one that Nurse Crissy inserts into his rectum on a daily basis to prevent him shitting himself each time he remembers how close he came to meeting two Islanders when he went to meet Hague in London.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0He must think he is dealing with idiots, which is fair enough, they are all he ever has contact with in TDC.
we will carry on, they will carry on............ crying.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twat.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does it have to do with the argie Foreign Ministry? Not in argie waters. But, in any case, how does Timcrap know what the problem with the BOP is. Has he suddenly become an engineer? Has he been out to examine it? Perhaps he could give a detailed explanation of the mechanics of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, nothing in argieland ever has mechanical failures. Except for trains running into buffers, killing and injuring people twice in two years because of brake failure. Two helicopters collide. A truck and a bus collide in Mendoza. And that's only events since 2010 that were bad enough to be reported internationally. Should we mention the ARA Espora? Deployed to take part in the Atlasur IX exercise, as the boat originally intended, ARA Spiro, ran aground leaving harbour. Espora's generators failed. Spent 73 days in Simonstown because MTU hadn't been paid for previous invoices and demanded up-front payment.
Funny bits:
Finally the release recalls that last 2 March Argentina strongly protested to the UK the beginning of drilling activities to the north of the Islands and on 9 March warned Ocean Rig to abstain from non authorized exploration and exploitation activities in ”the Argentine continental shelf or face legal consequences“.
Likewise last 9 April Argentina made a formal criminal presentation against Rockhopper Exploration, Premier Oil, Falkland Oil and Gas Ltd, Noble Energy and Edison International, and all their top staff for operations ”without the Argentine Energy Secretary authorization”.
So argieland 'protested'. So what? Back in 1982, Britain 'protested' argieland invading OUR Islands. And argieland 'warned' Ocean Rig? Again, so what? Argieland ought to learn that all islands, legally, have their own continental shelves.
”without the Argentine Energy Secretary authorization”. For drilling in British Falklands waters?
Argieland plans new book entitled Diplomacy for Dummies.
Tinytimman, such a prat. Does he think we dont know about all the years of argies exploration and mishaps off TdelF being gently swept up in the breeze and seas and delivered onto Falkland shores. The man's an utter plonker!
Apr 25th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I thought that the territorial waters around the Falklands belonged to Argentina? Perhaps not: https://www.academia.edu/10574593/Falklands_Islands_Territorial_Waters
Apr 25th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0these 3rd class companies and YOU isleters are the responsible, and will pay with all your goods for the damage caused by these scammers to our magnificent mar argentino.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0all your shacks will be part of the compensation.
… Shacks? Compared to the one you occupy Pelotudo FI houses are mansions . and, they have water, electricity, proper sewers and not stinking gullies down the middle of the street. How is the Architectural practice in that Villa? Shortage of pallets and cardboard making things difficult?
Apr 25th, 2015 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oil in abundance, so yourself, Think and Gollum look like lemons.
Still what sort of comment can one expect from an uneducated Cartonero?
What an idiot Titman is, one with any intelligence would know that the name is exactly what it describes, “ A BLOWOUT PREVENTER ” Christ these Argies are dumb or is it just the Governmental idiots? Tinman it “ PREVENTS A BLOWOUT ”
Apr 25th, 2015 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Deepwater Horizon happened because the “ BLOWOUT PREVENTER ” failed.
@12
Apr 25th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shacks you say! You need to open your eyes and get out more. I got a whiff and a view of this several years ago:
http://www.worstpolluted.org/projects_reports/display/114
Been and seen many things, but this was pure 3rd world stuff; how those poor people live god only knows; they certainly didn't look 2nd or 3rd generation Italian, German or even Spanish that's for sure. Absolutly shameful.
The only country that dominates the drilling technology in deep water is Brazil by Petrobras.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These oil companies of third category can cause irreparable environmental damage, including damaging fishing than is the main economic activity of the Falklands.
Not worth taking the risk.
Brasso
Apr 25th, 2015 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talk bollocks.
Within 5 years Petrobras will be broke. Don't tell me that they don't turn a blind eye to nefarious practices, if you do you are only fooling yourself.
Of course it would be completely safe if it was Argentinian drilling.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 paulcedron
No, you will get nothing from the vast, VAST, VAST British territories of land and sea in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic.
Poverty stricken S. American Argentina, can only watch with envy.
How is the drilling progressing in Dead Cow, or is it just flogging a Dead Horse.
@16 Brasileiro
Deep water drilling was developed in the North Sea, fool.
@16
Apr 25th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't make us laugh Brasshole: how many died when an offshore Pertrobras FPSO exploded? Clue, it happen only a few weeks ago; the list goes on....
@12 idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/nabo/paulcedron
Apr 25th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“mar argentino” ? Kindly tell us the coordinates of this mythical sea in order for us to identify it on international maps and/or atlases.
¡boludo!
@ 19
Apr 25th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm surprised. When was that? How many died?
gordo tirapedos
Apr 25th, 2015 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is more than clear that your knowledge of geography, you stinky fatty fart-blower, is the same as the knowledge of these 3rd class companies about oil drilling.
and that is zero.
nothing
nil.
anyway, the important thing here is that i anticipated this environmental disaster 6 months ago.
and it will get worse.
a lot worse.
the poor isleters will not even be able to recognise your characteristical stinky farts after the massive pollution these 3rd class companies will produce.
@21
Apr 25th, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go, an article about Petrobras operational 'competence' and a pending corruption probe thrown in as well for a bonus:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31430467
Have you ever thought about thinking things through before you post on here? Guess not.
#21
Apr 25th, 2015 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0versatel.nl/the_sims/rig/p36.htm]].
versatel.nl/the_sims/rig/enchova.htm
wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrobras_36
Thursday, February 12th 2015 - 05:23 UTC
Explosion in Petrobras floating oil rig kills at least three; six missing
I think this should just about cover it.
Before posting, check your facts. You have just confirmed to all that you are not particularly reliable in your posts. This is a polite way of saying that you haven't a clue.
#22
What environmental disaster are you talking about ?
What oil has been spilled ? How many people were injured ?
What business is it of yours ?
grandpa
Apr 25th, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is just a question of time to see the results of this disaster.
of course you cannot even imagine them because you dont know a shite about oil extraction.
and it is OUR business because they are contaminating our splendorous mar argentino.
got it now?
@25 paulcedron
Apr 25th, 2015 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, we will continue to exploit the vast, VAST, VAST British territories of land and sea in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic, and buy more missiles to point at you.
Argentina will be continue to be contained in S. America, where it belongs.
If you want to see your “splendorous mar argentine”, just follow the Yellow brick road, oh and take the TinPot man with you.
26
Apr 25th, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tin-man has no heart.
Pablo- straw man has no brains.
@25 Pablo
I predict the world will end - you read it here first!
Ah
Apr 25th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But would Argentina be complaining and crying like a 2 year old, if Argentina was drilling for oil, NO,
two faced springs to mind,
its got nothing to do with Argentina what goes on in British waters,.
so Soddy offy.
“ the Well has encountered problems with the BOP stack as a result of equipment malfunction which has required the Well to be suspended ”
Apr 25th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stealing is bad karma.
So is telling lies.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#25
Apr 25th, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I repeat....... WHAT Disaster ?
The well is being drilled in the North Falklands Sea which is none of Argentina's business.
So, you are now a self proclaimed expert on oil extraction amongst your many other failings ! How could anyone in Scotland have a clue about drilling for oil in the sea......wait a minute, we have been doing it for 40 years in the North Sea, in a climate worse than yours ! Aberdeen has the world's expertise in this subject, but again, what would an ignorant Argentinian Troll know about anything ! You have been shot down so many times you need an asbestos parachute.
GOT IT NOW ??????????????????
Probably not, as you would need something between your ears for it to register. Never mind CFK is leaving you a wonderful legacy of even more indebtedness to your Chines and Russian chums.
Just think, you will soon have roubles propping up the Peso...lucky you !
31 Clyde15
Apr 25th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Just think, you will soon have roubles propping up the Peso...lucky you !”
Eeeeewwwww!!!! I don't even want to know how THAT deal got cemented. Now there is the stuff of nightmares.
@12. Sorry. You need to look up your 'international law'. A people who aren't a 'people' and are 'squatters' can't be held responsible.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16. Would that be corrupt, criminal Petrobras. As the investigation progresses, will Dilma the Dork exchange her presidential office for a 6 x 6 foot cell? Will Rouseff the Recidivist be found to having gone back to her previous terrorist behaviour? Will Lulu the Limp be in the next cell?
@22. I don't see an environmental disaster. Have yuou been getting off and smelling your fingers?
@25. 'our splendorous mar argentino.' Do you mean that expanse of brown shit off south-eastern south america? You do know where your shit goes, if you don't catch it and eat it first, don't you?
@29. So is being an argie. It can lead to DEATH!
@33
Apr 25th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just google Matanza Riachuelo just for a laugh, just to see how the other half live in TDC
Argentine Sea does not exist.
Apr 25th, 2015 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one has ever provided any proof other than a circular Wikipedia entry. Look up the IHO and find it.
Thought not.
Anyway luckily no one is drilling for oil in Argentine waters so it has nothing to do with them.
Whinge and whine all you want Argentina, because no one cares.
@22 idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/nabo/paulcedron
Apr 26th, 2015 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“anyway, the important thing here is that i anticipated this environmental disaster 6 months ago. and it will get worse. a lot worse.”
Has there actually been a disaster? I don't think so!
¡Idiota!
gordo tirapedos
Apr 26th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0you & thinking are incompatible terms, you fatso.
you & farting are compatible terms.
got it?
#37
Apr 26th, 2015 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0vox.com/2014/12/4/7332411/fart-flatulence
As you seem to be stuck on an adolescent theme applicable to a 12 year old, have a look at this website and read about the subject.
You have a propensity to claim expertise on EVERY subject under the sun and when examined clinically, it proves otherwise.
If possible, stop acting like a child and grow up. Maybe then we would take note of what you say.
Drilling 70 km off Rio Grande at Carina should that be more of a worry than the bullshit from the Botox Queens lackies making another propaganda statement to wind up the masses about the Falklands.
Apr 26th, 2015 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ladies and gentlemen, the poster Paulcedron is a prime example of the fantastic
Apr 26th, 2015 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine education system, I think we should all applaud him as he makes a lot of sense. ( he says with tongue in cheeck )
Que boludo
@23
Apr 26th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was an accident of normal work as in any activity. Do not put at risk the safety of operation in high seas. The accident was restricted to less than 1% of the FPSO.
The video below shows pictures right after the accident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTvFsEtnklI
@37 idiot child/nabo/payaso/mamarracho/cara de c==o
Apr 26th, 2015 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I repeat “Was there actually a disaster?” Kindly answer the question, boludo de m====a!
@41
Apr 26th, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but very lucky that only a few died, it could have been far worse perhaps as bad as the Deepwater horizon ( by the grace of God this did not happen ) oil exploration is a dangerous operation and things like the Blowout preventer has to be fixed and tested prior to deployment.
#41
Apr 26th, 2015 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you see my comments at #24. There has been more than one accident.
reuters.com/article/2015/04/24/brazil-petrobras-spill-idUSL1N0XL18920150424
@44
Apr 26th, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not give importance to what you say. Sorry.
@35
Apr 26th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah Skip the ANGLO Ozzer, the gift that keeps on giving.
Just when I think I can't be proven any more right about the miserable morals and ethics of these Anglos, here we go again being proved even right-ER.
“Anyway luckily no one is drilling for oil in Argentine waters so it has nothing to do with them. ”
This is the same Anglo (not a person), who has said umpteen times that Argentines are bastards because we fish in our waters in a way that could be deleterious to the Falkland Islands, and our lack of cooperation and “neighborly” manners proves how bad bad we are.
In other words, for all these years this lying, duplicitious OZZER has been saying “bad Argentina for not cooperating with the Falklands on something that affects BOTH”.
BUT HERE, at the first example of a Falkland's activity that could deleteriously affect Argentina, he immediately performs the infamous “ANGLO 180°”, and now unscrupulously states that “Argentina should f--ck off”, even though clearly a major accident in Falkland EEZ waters could affect Argentina.
There is no better example of what I have always said, Anglos will be Anglos, they are disgusting morally and give ne nausea for their lack of ethics and rectitude.
Pollyana ninnies.
Apr 26th, 2015 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For a world addicted to hydrocarbons you seem pretty adverse to wading through a little grease every once in a while. Know this: If you're going to poke a large number holes in the earth - every once in a while something is going to go a little awry. In some of these instances the responses will be inappropriate or ineffectual. Now start doing that in ever more increasingly hostile and isolated environments and the chances (odds) of something going catastrophically wrong start to creep up.
Anyone that complains should walk. And forego heat and AC. Forget about plastic. Grow your own food. This is where we are at as a post modern society and we have been so lucky not to have been plagued by weekly hydrocarbon events. Most pipelines need to be replaced. If the Mid Atlantic States (US) had to bear the social cost of offshore drilling NY liberals would be more real world in their views. Obama bans domestic coal burning and coal is sent to China! [Hey Barry, it's all the same atmosphere.] Go figure. The US Congress subsidizes renewable fuels - ethanol and biodiesel - with tax breaks and each absolutely require more BTU - full charge accounting/GAAP - than they produce. And they're both detrimental to engine component longevity.
Oil naturaly seeps from the ground on five contenents. There are entire lakes of it. Methane has always escaped from the subsurface on land and in the oceans - these vents are inumerable.
Volcanos are active in vast areas of the earth's surface. Periodically these ports belch out incalcuable quantities of toxic carcenogens and particulate matter. A single eruption can contribute more to global air pollution than the history all of man's burning of hydrocarbons. Its a dangerous planet. Don't forget it. Don't be sucked in by the psuedo science and hysteria of the new anti industrial revolutionaries. If you want an omlette - you are going to have to break a few eggs and there is going to be a little mess.
I didn't read what you wrote, but as long as you promised to never set foot in Argentina I am at ease.
Apr 26th, 2015 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Falkland Islands are part of Argentina why is it that the Foreign Minister is commentating on it? Surely if there is some sort of environmental disaster in their waters Argentina should take the blame for not regulating it.
Apr 26th, 2015 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh sorry I forgot it is not happening in Argentina, hence the involvement of the foreign minister. It is a huge relief as the drilling is far more likely to be competent if no Argentines are involved.
@46
Apr 26th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And has any of these dastardly Anglos ever claimed that Argentina should stop fishing, that fish in Argentine territorial waters belong to the Anglos, that Argentine territorial waters belong to Anglos? And have any dastardly Anglos ever reneged on a mutually beneficial fishing arrangement with Argentina for any of the reasons listed above?
@16
Apr 26th, 2015 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These oil companies of third category can cause irreparable environmental damage
Note“ had to suspend activities because of 'mechanical problems”.
Not-kept on with activities to produce a problem.
Your country is one of the biggest enemies of the environment having hacked away at the Amazon rain forest for years in an unsustainable manner-Brazil, with environmental concern?
You're having a laugh-Brazil doesn't give a shit about the environment.
@51
Apr 26th, 2015 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We really are very afraid of what might happen if the islanders continue with this desire to extract oil at sea. You have no technological and economic conditions or even support possible disaster a bit more serious.
We hope that Argentina, with the support of UNASUL, take the precautionary measures to curb this madness.
Nostrils
Apr 26th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please provide links to my copious quotes.
I mean if I've said it “umpteen times” then it shouldn't be difficult.
Oh...... none? Thought so.
Of course I am the gift that keeps on giving. Which is much more than we can say about your Argentinean education.
Which gave you nothing.
@50
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You yourself have constantly insinuated that, paraphrasing “Argentina would do well to join the 20th century and cooperate with the Islanders on areas of mutual interest”.
@53
So you cravenly hide behind the “bureaucracy” of internet forums to claim I can't find quotes where you said this. See I don't have the time to just look for hours for posts in which this was discussed.
But you know for a fact you have insulted Argentina for not talking to the islanders on things like fishing (in Argentine waters, that might affect Falkland waters), and yet here with the other shoe you perform an Anglo 180.
My Argentine education is way ahead of anything Ozzer could possibly have offered you.
@54
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's entirely true, and I think it would be even better were you to join us in the 21st century. But the 20th would already be an impressive effort in catching up.
I don't think so, we have a few centuries of pillaging and raping to catch up with. That's how you got to be wealthy, after all.
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0A bit beside topic, but thought readers would be glad to know that YPF has just completed the sale of bonds for $1.5 billion, to fund the expansion of Vaca Muerta oil fields.
Apr 27th, 2015 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0This follows the successful sale of $1.4 billion in bonds that will finance infrastructure and housing plans.
The Argentine opposition had been hammering the idea that the fight with the vulture funds and the subsequent “technical default” would put international capitals out of reach for the country.
Idiot child/payaso/mamarracho/nabo/paulcedron
Apr 27th, 2015 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You still haven't told us where your alleged disaster took place.
@56
Apr 27th, 2015 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not really. That's the Spanish Empire you're thinking of. Ours was more about trade. But it was the Industrial Revolution that made us wealthy.
59 Hans
Apr 27th, 2015 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Ours was more about trade.”
Yeah right. Twice your ancestors entered Buenos Aires when we were still a Spanish colony. The viceroy took off. Twice our ancestors criollos chased you away.
So sending the troops was the way your country did its trade?
Oh, and did you ever heard of La Forestal?
That British company came about after Argentina borrowed money to its disadvantage from an English company named Murrieta.
They clear cut two million hectares of quebracho in the country's north leaving only desolation and eroded land, over exploiting workers and keeping them in check with its own police forces, all the while bribing corrupt Argentine politicians in the early 20th Century.
Workers did three strikes, the last one ending in cruel repression that left hundreds of dead.
Some trade.
@60 Enrique
Apr 27th, 2015 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know the Argentine education system apparently recognises only one former Empire, but in recorded history there have been about 70 and they weren't all the same. The British Empire was about trade in the beginning and in the end about creating and maintaining markets for products, and it grew largely by developing trade routes and taking strategic possessions to protect those trade routes, often simply to keep the French and/or Dutch and/or Spanish and/or Portuguese and/or whoever else was competing at the time out. It often worked by coopting local elites rather than simple seizure. This is quite distinct from the Spanish Empire, for example, whose main focus was on killing everybody and stealing everything, and that's why it was the Spanish rather than the Brits who made the rather counter-intuitive discovery that it's possible to steal so much you impoverish yourself.
This doesn't mean to say, of course, that the British Empire wasn't exploitative. Of course it was. But it does mean to say that this view you're propounding, whereby history consists of a list of bad things done by Brits, with nobody much else involved, no historical processes in play, and yourselves as ever in the role of hapless, innocent victims, is just self-serving bollocks.
@60
Apr 27th, 2015 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@61 Has nailed it on the head, but surely the Argies were involved were they not, feathering their nests or were they performing the classic pose “ sitting on their arses ” and watching everyone else work. We provided work for your workshy “ hordes ” Where would you be without the investment in railways?
#46
Apr 27th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fine, then why does not YOUR govt. contact the Falkland Islands administration and register their concerns ?
#56
You mean that your few centuries of raping and pillaging has left you poor ?
It must have taken an organising genius to reduce you to this state of penury considering the advantages you had in the way of natural resources.
Please keep the secret to yourselves !
@60
Apr 27th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christ Argentina had ( by Enrique admission ) corrupt politicians in the 20th Century, haven't learnt much have you ? still going on.PMSL 21st Century and still at it.
@61 Due to the British investments in Argentina in the late 19th and early 20th centuries together with the large trade between both countries a serving president(either Roque Sáenz Peña or Victorino de la Plata), suggested that his country should become part of what was then the British Empire. Whether he had his tongue in his cheek or not is unknown!
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 057 Enrique Massot (#)
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 27th, 2015 - 04:01 am
...“YPF has just completed the sale of bonds for $1.5 billion”...
...“This follows the successful sale of $1.4 billion in bonds that will finance infrastructure and housing plans.”...
For which we, the Argentines living in Argentina, will have to pay 8.7% interest while the rest of our neighbours pay 4-5%. What a great deal, but somewhat better than Nestor's deal with Chávez, U$S 5 billion at 15% interest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So no quotes then Nostrils.
Apr 27th, 2015 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I thought. Piss and wind.
gordo pedorro
Apr 27th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wot?
english investments here during the so called informal empire were mostly to loot our rich lands, exactly like they did in india and the list goes on.
as a little sample you have the tratado roca runciman, you ignorant fatso.
and who the fuck was victorino de la PLATA, lol?
try not to opine about what you dont know a shite, you uncontrollable farter.
@60 Enrique Massot
Apr 27th, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British operations in the River Plate in 1807-8 were actually part of the Napoleonic wars, and really need to be viewed in that context.
The British also captured and occupied Montevideo for several months during those operations, yet I have never heard of a Uruguayan claim that the British invaded them.
Or ever even mention it.
@66 Simon68
5.9% for Bolivia, but yes very, very expensive.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/187803/debt-be-not-proud
@68 paulcedron
Yes Paulito, we looted from you what you looted from the Indians, seems fair to me, after all it was not yours in the first place, was it.
@68
Apr 27th, 2015 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whats with this obsession with “ farting ” Paul. Can you not manage it. If the great UK not invested in Argentina you would still be swinging through the trees, look at the bright side who built the railways? I know you have not maintained them but heho life is a bitch eh?
@ 68 Typing error - should have been Victorino de la Plaza!
Apr 27th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Idiot child - you said “try not to opine about what you dont know a shite, you uncontrollable farter.” Cara de culo - you tend to opine about things which are certainly well above your head! All you seem to know about are “shite” and “farts”!
#69 Pugol-H
Apr 27th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make a good point, and it has to be said that the battles against the British troops helped to embolden the locals, who three years later started the rebellion that ended the Spanish domination.
#61 Hans Niesund
It's not my intention to give a grade to the different colonialist countries (the whole process was such a cruel abuse) but I know the Spaniards were a bunch of jackasses capable of the worst atrocities.
#63 Clyde:
Shortly after the end of colonialism, neo-colonialism started, pursuing the same old objectives by more refined means. Take a quick look at the history of the 1933 Roca-Runciman treaty, one of the worst in memory for the country but gave the edge to England. Vice-president Julio Argentino Roca jr. was the son of the killer of natives in Patagonia.
Neo-colonialists require local associates, and that of course is difficult to neutralize. You can see some of them today in broad daylight claiming: “We need to comply with Griesa! Whatever Griesa says we have to do it! etc.
#66 Simon
I agree the rates are high. I am unable to perform a cost-benefit analysis to determine whether it would be more advantageous not to borrow. I would risk to say that the costs of doing nothing may be higher. In addition, I believe obtaining foreign investment in defiance of the blockage imposed by the vulture funds and their associated judge strengthens the country's position if negotiation happens.
#64 golfcronie
”Argentina had ( by Enrique admission ) corrupt politicians in the 20th Century, haven't learnt much have you ?”
Absolutely. Corrupt politicians who prefer to associate with foreign powers and big corporations to the detriment of our countries are the worst cancer Latin America had to cope with in the last two centuries. I would contend we are slowly learning to unseat the bastards. The show of force with the vulture funds is a key chapter of the story. Keep tuned!
@72
Apr 27th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you any idea where the US$ 70 billion went? They are not “ vulture funds ” as you well know. You ( Argentina ) stole that US$ 70 billion. You would be quite happy to accept 30 cents on the US$ if I borrowed from you? Where do you live I would love a deal like that. Thieves the lot of you. How many treaties have you either torn up or renegaded on. How many court cases does Argentina have against it at the UN?
@73
Apr 27th, 2015 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cases at the UN??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
None that we have to abide by.
@74
Apr 27th, 2015 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why should we? You will never get the FALKLANDS
Starve the trolls.
Apr 27th, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75
Apr 27th, 2015 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands are British.
Burn baby burn
hahahahah
76
Apr 27th, 2015 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you not like eating...?
@72 Enrique
Apr 28th, 2015 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Corrupt politicians who prefer to associate with foreign powers and big corporations to the detriment of our countries are the worst cancer Latin America had to cope with in the last two centuries.”
There's certainly truth in that, but on the other hand blaming all your problems on foreigners has always been part of the stock in trade of your charlatans, and indeed has been part of the official ideology since Peron. It doesn't seem to have helped you that much over the last 70 years or so, but maybe now with the Russians and Chinese known for their unselfish altruism, a brighter future beckons.
79 Hans
Apr 28th, 2015 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, Chile will continue its unchecked growth...
:-)
RUSSIA and Argentina
Apr 30th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agree to share and train spies together,
I can fly like a spy,
I can die like a spy,
But I can’t find a plane,
That can fly in the sky.
Is it true that if Putin and CFK get mar,
All that is hers, will be his, including Argentina.
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Briton,
May 02nd, 2015 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a good Poet,
And we now know it.
Argentina made a formal criminal presentation against Rockhopper
May 02nd, 2015 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and all their top staff for operations
”without the Argentine Energy Secretary authorization”.
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What ever happened to the invisible court case?
Why have Argentina not got a court order to stop the drilling,
Why has CFK not send it the environment agency to inforce this, and arrest everyone,
Why has Argentina not sent in police to stand guard, and her navy to protect them?
Why why why ,
Perhaps because she CANT,
Her tongue wiggles but nothing comes out..
.chuckle.
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