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Cameron puts pressure on Europe for major changes and revamped links

Wednesday, May 13th 2015 - 07:00 UTC
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Prime Minister David Cameron will hold an early referendum on membership of the European Union if he can first reach a deal that satisfies his demands for major changes in Britain's relationship with the bloc, his spokesman said yesterday. Read full article


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  • Conqueror

    Certain people should notice differences now that the wimpish, pro-EU LibDems are out of the way. I can't say what Cameron will ask for, but I hope that it will cover the following area;
    1. The right to limit immigration. Limiting immigration is consistent with the free movement of workers. A simple precaution. Before arrival in the UK, the 'worker' must have a UK job guaranteed for 5 years. Loss of job means departure. Non-workers may not receive UK benefits in any way, shape or form. Ever. This is to include 'family' members. Given the current attempt by the EU to interfere in non-EU immigration, the UK rejects any forced quota system. Non-EU migrants to comply with similar rules to those for EU migrants. Genuine refugees and asylum seeks are separate issues. Voluntary migrants required to have an adequate command of spoken and written English. Migrant applications must be made, in person, at designated offices. Designated offices for Africa are located in Bogota, Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. For Asia, designated offices are in Canberra and Christmas Ireland. For Europe, the designated offices are in Harare and Lagos.
    2. The issue of welfare benefits is largely dealt with in 1. above. Genuine refugees and asylum seekers must reside where directed. Usually in camps. Movement outside camps and other facilities will be permitted except during curfew hours. Curfew hours will be the hours of darkness. Burqas and similar forms of dress are illegal.
    3. Suspected or convicted criminals may not claim any form of 'human rights'.
    4. As a special case, 'travellers' will be required to travel. Constantly. As a control measure, vehicle odometers will be monitored. Taxes will be levied at petrol stations. £200 per traveller every time a vehicle enters. Less than 300,000 miles per year and 'traveller' status will be revoked. Deportation within 24 hours. Two possible destinations. Ireland or scotland. In either case, vehicles to be dumped in the Irish Sea.

    May 13th, 2015 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Jawol mein Fuerher, or Deus Veult depending on your allegiance.

    Christmas Ireland ????????????? Sounds a jolly place.

    If I may be permitted to query your plan to deport people to Scotland may I ask how this will be done.
    In previous posts you have either nuked the country, constructed a 10 mile channel at the border filled with mines AND built a huge wall.
    This would seem to present a logistical problem for transportation.
    You obviously cannot use cattle trucks as they are all needed to carry commuters to London from places such as Aldershot.
    You could always use the final solution problem favoured by the third Reich ....reduce them to ashes and use it for road bottoming.

    May 13th, 2015 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Get outa my pub, said Barbara Windsor,

    I wonder if the European president will be saying the same to David,
    get outa my Europe...

    just saying like.

    May 13th, 2015 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    OH NO!! GOD SAVE US!!!


    May 13th, 2015 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “Cameron puts pressure on Europe for major changes and revamped links”

    fatty camoron puts pressure?

    it seems the useless fatso is the only one who doesnt know that england is a stone in the shoe for the EU.

    it seems the twat does not know that england is just a chronic debtor for the EU.

    it seems the fatty moron does not know that the countries of the EU are giving free medical and dental care to hundreds of thousands of english citizens because they have the worst health care system in the western world.

    lets hope that both england and its 17ème siècle colony of gibraltar receive a good kick in the middle of their dirty ass.

    May 13th, 2015 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    You can hope but it ain't gonna happen

    May 13th, 2015 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    @ 4, and you will follow them,

    Cameron ,no matter how bad, is 50 times better than your leader,
    brainwise anyway...

    May 13th, 2015 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    7 nabo
    they are the same shite, you nabo

    May 13th, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    can you prove this shit is the same,

    and is not nabo a character from star wars you nabo...

    May 14th, 2015 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @5 and @8

    What the hell do you know about it? Bugger all - you foul mouthed ignorant nabo!

    May 14th, 2015 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    “Designated offices for Africa are located in Bogota, Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. For Asia, designated offices are in Canberra and Christmas Ireland. For Europe, the designated offices are in Harare and Lagos.”

    This is the most amusing rambling I have ever had the displeasure of enduring.

    It's like he thinks the UK is some sort of imperial power, and not some minor offsore European island with ever diminishing importance in an Asian-Americas dominated world!

    May 14th, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    The more I learn about EU immigration laws the more baffling I find them. The only way they can work is by assuming that migrants are inherently trustworthy. Sovereign country's need more control over their borders than the EU is willing to believe they need.

    @1 Christmas Ireland lol. Santa's little helpers are leprechauns?

    p.s. Ok, I can't stand not knowing any more. Would one of the above linguistic genius's please explain to me what 'nabo' means?

    May 14th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RufusBaxter

    @11 if you really can't discern what the fellow was trying to say then I pity your intellect. 'Christmas Ireland' is obviously a automatic correction of 'Christmas Island' which is part of Australia.

    The UK is projected to have the largest population and economy in Europe within a few short decades and will be evermore important on the global stage. The British economy was the fastest growing in the G8 last year and two new aircraft carriers near completion. The UK hasn't been involved in recent airstrikes in the Middle East because our MPs voted against it, not because of lack of capability, there are British bases in Cyprus.

    The UK hasn't been in decline since the 1980s, everyone is happier, richer and healthier than ever before, no wonder so many immigrants want to move here. Unfortunately for them, Britain has given enough to the world and it's time people sort out the mess in their own countries. We don't want people here who refuse to assimilate or who hate Britain, they can go back to their hell-hole third world dumps if they don't like it here.

    Britain doesn't need the EU. The European Union will be far less influential without us. The UK can trade with the rest of the world after we leave this restrictive union. London has already become the international centre of trade in Renminbi. Indeed China is the future. Britain values the USA far less than it once did, no wonder we were the first western country to partner up with China's new Asian Development Bank, soon joined by nearly every other supposed US ally. The new world certainly is Asia dominated. The Americas are hardly of great importance. South America is a mess and the USA has stagnated.

    The hate and jealousy towards Britain is shocking. Go ahead and tell us where you're from so we can discuss the short-comings of your country that have clearly created such a dissatisfied and envious individual.

    May 14th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @11 toby
    “[an] island with ever diminishing importance in an Asian-Americas dominated world”

    Sounds like your Utopian Argentina?

    May 15th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    “Nabo” means “turnip” but in the River Plate area it is used to tell someone they are stupid!

    May 15th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker


    Thank you for that, the whole turnip thing was a bit of mystery, I never quite understood the link, seems somewhat tenuous to me.

    Very interesting times ahead. If you look at the situation objectively, who has more to lose by a divorce, the UK or the EU?

    We import way way more goods from the EU than they from us and we have created more jobs in the UK in the last two years than the whole of the EU put together, hence the reason why we are employing them all and our economy is steaming ahead, to the extent that in April we overtook France and are now the second largest economy in the EU after Germany.

    We are the largest military power in the EU and with the advent of our new aircraft carriers we can displace that power more effectively than any other EU nation. With Russia breathing down the EU's neck to the east, we are without a doubt, yet again, the country they will all rely on when the chips are down. Not sure they would be as keen to stand behind France leading the charge!

    More than any other EU nation, we have more financial and cultural links with the four corners of the world than any other EU nation, this being due to the empire. London is the also the financial capital of the world, the capital of world culture, media and where the richest people in the world call home.

    Upon leaving the EU, all we have to do is strike a free trade deal with them in exactly the same way that Norway and Switzerland have done, we are then free to organise our own trade deals anywhere on the plant. And Yes Germany will still want to sell its Mercedes's to the UK along with France their cars and Champagne and Spain their fruit and veg and so on.

    So on balance, the UK could quite happily leave and thrive, but could the EU hold everything together after losing, its largest financial donor and employer and military power............................Maybe not.

    My guess is that Cameron will get every single thing he asks for and more.

    May 15th, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    an Asian-Americas dominated world!

    You are obviously excluding Argentina from that statement.

    May 15th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext


    Thanks Gordo.

    May 15th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Will most probably be decided by Camaro and the president [ personally] wink wink...

    May 15th, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    lol @ 16.

    Lets take this apart piece by piece.

    1. worlds financial center is new york.
    2. France is Europes largest military.
    3. France has an aircraft carrier NOW, GB doesn't.
    4. Spain has an aircraft carrier NOW, GB doesn't
    5. Italy has TWO aircraft carriers NOW, GB doesn't
    6. Re; London being the capital of everything good, rich people, culture etc - citations needed. Or did you just pull these ideas out of your ass.
    7. Leaving the EU will cause a fresh independence referendum in Scotland.
    8. The only stats I can find for Britain being the 2nd Economy in front of France are from a London based, English owned, private company which decided to cut out the black market from France and leave it in for Britain. Dream on Britain is behind France yet again.

    May 16th, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice


    1 United States of America PwrIndx: 0.1661
    2 Russia PwrIndx: 0.1865
    3 China PwrIndx: 0.2315
    4 India PwrIndx: 0.2695
    5 United Kingdom PwrIndx: 0.2743
    6 France PwrIndx: 0.3065

    May 16th, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Yeah global firepower lol.

    A funny site if ever there was one.

    Wouldn't take it seriously.

    May 16th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Does anyone, anywhere , take anything seriously nowadays. late..

    May 16th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Well, not a site that has Canada, South Africa and Switzerland ranked well above North Korea.

    and while Im sure UK is in reality well above Argentina in reality Im not so sure Ethiopia should be.

    Armchair general nonsense.

    May 16th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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