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Cristina Fernandez comes out strongly in defense of minister Kicillof
President Cristina Fernandez has questioned accusations against Economy Minister Axel Kicillof over his alleged YPF monthly salary of 400.000 Argentine Pesos (approx 35.000 dollars). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesthe boss helps her poodle. who defends himself, accuses himself. especially in the arg ck robberment gang.
May 15th, 2015 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0$35,000 a month to tell tall stories and lie about the state argentina is in.
May 15th, 2015 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL “ cannot be bought ” and that on top of his government salary.
May 15th, 2015 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I just LOVE the picture of TMBOA: has she got something up somewhere that she likes and wasn't expecting, just as the camera caught her?
May 15th, 2015 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's the polite version anyway. :o)
Look at his affidavit? How about Boudou's affidavits. Good luck with that. He can't be bought? They are all for sale...including her.
May 15th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This was a monumental blunder of the Argentine newspaper Clarín, who published the story on front page--never to retract of course. The story was a fake and demonstrates the desperation of an opposition that has up to this day failed to gain support from the public opinion.
May 15th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elvis!
May 15th, 2015 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should have remained faithful to the tenants of your communist faith.
LOL.
Distraction.
The real money is in the kickbacks.
@6
May 15th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Explain something to me. ARS 400,000 is by my reckoning $ US 44,667 @ official Argie rate and $ US 31,695 @ the BLUE rate . tell me how many rates are there in Argentina?
One crook defending another crook. Oh, yes, we believe!
May 15th, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 ChrisR
May 15th, 2015 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting observation. You probably do not know how fast today's cameras take multiple photos, giving editors lots to choose and pick from. If editors want to ridicule somebody, the'll just pick a pic in which the person is, for example, half blinking or has a less-than-flattering expression--and the deed is done!
“You probably do not know . . . ”
May 15th, 2015 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of all the condescending jackasses . . . . . . . . . lol. Dumbass. They're usually clipped from video frame capture.
@ 10 Kiki Mashed Potato Head
May 15th, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You probably do not know how fast today's cameras take multiple photos”
Stupid boy.
One of my companies specialised in high end Technical Photography and I made LOTS of money with that.
Keep dreaming you know something that others do not.
Austral Elvis said they don't need a $500 note because people can use credit cards etc. What a moron.
May 15th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He also said he heard people in the USA are asking for $1000 bills. In all my life I've seen a $500 maybe 5X maybe less. WTF would want a $1000? I get pissed when someone gives me a $100.
Gads he's a moron.
I hope hope hope hope another K gets to be Prez.
They'll be cutting off breasts instead of giving them cancer meds and claiming its a good thing like they do in Venezuela.
Stupid stupid people.
“I hope hope hope hope another K gets to be Prez.” lol.
May 15th, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“super” power USA fears shortage of chicken eggs:
May 15th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://finance.yahoo.com/news/headed-egg-shortage-130737070.html
You know I hear about worrisome events from Toby all the time. Nobody here is talking about eggs. Nobody cares. It is irrelevant to our everyday life and if we need more we'll import them.
May 15th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody cares.
While in Argentina they don't even know how many kidnapping happen every day, day in and day out. Nobody knows. 1000s of people pay and don't tell the police or the gov't because they know they are involved.
And stupid Toby posts that maybe the USA might have expensive eggs next year.
sheesh
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trucking-business-is-delivering-chilling-news-about-the-economy/ar-BBjMdjT?srcref=rss
May 15th, 2015 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is Toby? People keep mentioning this person. I am new here.
https://www.the-newshub.com/international/a-view-from-the-other-buenos-aires
May 15th, 2015 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They say there are estimated to be 5X as many people living in BA slums than in 2007. The last census.
:(
Pretty soon it will be free mastectomies with the free socialized healthcare. No drugs to treat the even the things we think are simple and curable here in the civilized world.
And...about the story above: For those with command of Spanish, here's an interesting video in which journalist Nelson Castro recognizes the erroneous information published by the Clarin newspaper (and repeated by all the Clarin Group outlets) about minister Kicilloff's alleged remuneration by YPF.
May 16th, 2015 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfU_NPEbc8U
“For those with command of Spanish, . . . ” lol. Doing his best to deflect attention away from his own inadequacy. The rotting roadkill criole hardly passes for spanish.
May 16th, 2015 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Elvis needs a 1911 to gesture with. He would at least appear a little more natural with that communist rhetoric and demagoguery.”
Thieving politicians are considered the norm in Argentina. Why anyone is surprised or even annoyed by this, whether true or not, is beyond me.
May 16th, 2015 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 How many exchange rates are there in Argentina?
May 16th, 2015 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/elcipayo/photos/a.369306603081982.95601.228580567154587/1005031252842844/?type=1&theater
May 16th, 2015 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of my friends had this on his feed today...
telling
#21 Skip
May 17th, 2015 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Thieving politicians are considered the norm in Argentina. Why anyone is surprised or even annoyed by this, whether true or not, is beyond me.”
Say, what part of “NO” you fail to understand? Kicilloff said he does not get the money. Cristina has said Kicilloff does not get the money. Clarín, after publishing the accusation on a front-page, large headlined story, has become silent on the matter. However, it commissioned TV journalist Nelson Castro of the TN channel (Grupo Clarín), to make a half-hearted admission of error. (It follows Clarín published the story with no proof, following the tactic of spreading mud in hopes some would stick, the same way it denounced Maximo Kirchner and Nilda Garre had a bank account with $40 million in Belize--another monumental lie.
24. Here you go you disgusting propagandist:
May 17th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-argentina-mix-of-money-and-politics-stirs-intrigue-around-kirchner-1406601002
Google Kircher fortune corruption
And try not to make people's stomach turn every time you post.
Filthy Kidiot
25 YB
May 17th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I may: what your point would be in bringing about a Wall Street Journal article from 2014?
In my posting #24 that you address above, I was referring to information posted by the most important newspaper of Argentina a few days ago accusing Economy Minister Axel Kicilloff of earning $400,000 from state energy company YPF.
The information, published in front page under large headlines, was a total fake. That in itself would affect the credibility of any information outlet, but was compounded by Clarín by not publishing any correction or apologizing for the not-so-innocent error.
If you want to debate corruption in Argentina, I would suggest you should start by choosing a real case.
Political opposition within democracy is not only a right; it's a necessity. However, political opposition must be responsibly exercised. Clarin's use of fictitious information to score points is not.
“Thieving politicians are considered the norm in Argentina. Why anyone is surprised or even annoyed by this, whether true or not, is beyond me.”
May 17th, 2015 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because you were attempting to answer Skip's statement with propaganda.
You're a filthy liar and propagandist equal to a chavista in Venezuela. Argentina has never been worse off...NEVER and you're too blind or stupid to see it.
This is also propaganda right:
May 18th, 2015 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.npr.org/2015/05/17/407537321/9-dead-after-central-texas-shootout-between-rival-biker-gangs
@28 Relevance?
May 18th, 2015 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@28 For someone claiming to despise the USA you spend an awful lot of time obsessing about everything that happens there. Why not get out a bit and get a job?
May 18th, 2015 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently you don't read the numerous links I post about UK and Australia too.
May 18th, 2015 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It just happens to be that those are the three countries that the most anti-argentines in this forum.
@26. You've lost it, haven't you? There is NO important newspaper in argieland. Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself. There you are, five and a half thousand miles from where you should be, trying to tell us what things are like in scumland. How would you know? Something you've been 'told'? What's wrong with an article less than a year old? The scum trolls from latam that appear here like to quote articles 15 or more years old.
May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31. Who looks at your pointless 'links'? You're just a brainless automaton with a forced script. Perhaps in a thousand years, following a lobotomy, you might be able to debate intelligently with a proper American, not the sub-class of the south, an Australian, a Canadian, a New Zealander, an Englishman, someone from Wales or from Northern Ireland. Try to remember that you're sub-normal. Did you miss that? You're sub-normal. Sub-normal.
#32
May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argies lie as a matter of course.”
I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of the Truth. Finally, all will be solved.
@31 You are completely obsessed. If you really do desire isolation from the world for your country then lead by example. And get a job.
May 18th, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone who's ever been in a business arrangement with an Rg know they lie and they will not live up to their end of the agreement. Whether its the Gov't, a company or an Individual.
May 19th, 2015 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even Rgs that live there know that USA companies are the best to work for because they know they're going to get paid and not abused at work. There's usually a wait list to get a job at McDs!!
I think that the biggest problem with Rgs is that they have no honor. Its take take take and you're a fool if you give back.
That's one of the main reason they are devolving.
Good to see that the Argentine ministers are all hanging together.
May 19th, 2015 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare you all criticize Kiciloff...antisemitic are we?
May 20th, 2015 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently there are some in Argentina who still approve Cristina Fernandez' government and Minister Kicilloff's handling of the economy: The province of Salta has re-elected for a third mandate Victory Front's governor Juan Manuel Urtubey, with 51 per cent of the popular vote.
May 20th, 2015 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0His closest rival, Juan Carlos Romero, got 30 per cent.
I see that from five and a half thousand miles from my home country (as Conqueror says at #32) I see I am having a more accurate reading than prophets of doom and gloom such as Conqueror and Yankeeboy.
For a country that is disintegrating and sinking into abyss as prophets of doom and gloom Conqueror and Yankeeboy would have you to believe, a third victory in a row for Urtubey shows the opposition has a rough path ahead.
Oh, and the information above is barely three-day-old, my friends. Not from 15 years ago.
In Salta hows the education for those voters? Enrique..is the Kiciloff model sustainable? We're looking at fascism. Half the time they're in bed with intl finance, the other half when shaking down and controlling it's CFK against the empire. Fighting for the patria with Timerman and Kiciloff at the helm. Something for nothing while ignoring the future....just shows how deep the crisis will be when Argentina is forced to cut the handouts. By then Kiciloff might be in some island or in Israel.
May 20th, 2015 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 038. Argentina has reached a tipping point of Takers vs Givers. It is now ruled by the uneducated unwashed masses. No matter who takes over next as Prez there's no changing the outcome. It will look like Venezuela (without the oil) in short order.
May 20th, 2015 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still believe you'll see hyperinflation when the BCRA shenanigans have reached their limits. It might be the end of this year or mid part of next year. Its had to say. Nobody would do what the Ks have done if they really cared about the people of the country. Nobody.
The anticipation is delicious.
Were Elvis not the beneficiary of PerKir political largess he would be virtually unemployable in other than the food service sector(dishwasher).
May 20th, 2015 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
38 Enrique Massot (#)
May 20th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 20th, 2015 - 04:21 am
Juan Manuel Urtubey says he is a peronist (justicialista) not a Kirchnerist or Cristinist, so it really doesn't reflect much on whether it is good for CFK if he's won or not. What is really telling is what happens in Córdoba, Santa Fé and Buenos Aires where at the moment it looks as though either the Social Democrats or PRO will win!!!!!!
#42 Simon
May 20th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sorry, but you have fallen into the trap of Clarinet and La Nacion, who are trying their best to divide to conquer.
I have listened to Urtubey's recorded words and can tell you he is with CFK all the way.
#39 Bio Bio
Your questioning of Salta's voters education comes across as a most ignorant statement. The rest of it is a rant with no value whatsoever. The Kirchners' government has not been free of error, but has done many things right and that is why it still enjoys significant popular support, right at the end of CFK's term.
@43
May 21st, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're living in your own private Idaho.
Reekie is too stupid to know what that means:
May 22nd, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here you go Reekie..
It means “living inside an Idaho potato”, or a very small space. Metaphorically, it refers to someone who is not paying attention because he is daydreaming, or under the influence, or otherwise wrapped up within his own very narrow sphere of interest or frame of reference.
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