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UN praise for Argentina's maternity and children's social protection schemes
Argentina has substantially improved its social protections for maternity and young children, according to the International Labour Organization (ILO). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe child allowance was a vote buying scheme. And there is no “protection” for supreme court judges.
May 15th, 2015 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn.
May 15th, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhh . . pay your debts - deadbeats.
Just trying to produce more cannon fodder!
May 15th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My tax going towards paying vogo's to do nothing! So they can stay at home and breed more useless peasants.
May 15th, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good for Mercopress to publish this story.
May 15th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the naysayers in the world cannot bury the many social inclusion measures taken by the Kirchners' governments.
The Universal Child Allowance, reviled by some backward sectors of in Argentine, requires children to remain at school and be vaccinated. So many children who used to go to work at seven or eight years of age will now stay in school, with the obvious benefits for the country.
This, however, is a setback for the estancia owners, who want illiterate workers supplying cheap labour.
I love UN bureaucrats, just love them. They can’t tell the difference between their arse from their elbows, cant they???
May 16th, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sweetie, GDP is completely overestimated and the official number is a joke, hence AUH is far more expensive than just 0,5% of GDP.
And the scheme is an utter failure, it doesn’t get kids into school and off the streets, what it has actually done is take the street to the schools. It has only flooded the schools with kids of the worst backgrounds and it only produced that drugs are now openly mass traded in high school. Middle class kids have had a mass exodus to private school as it is now unsafe for many of them.
And the worst part of it all school leavers have never being higher than now as only half of the kids finish high school.
PISA levels have worsened and downgraded 10 levels in the ranking since the 1990s when they begun.
So less quality of education and much higher drop outs, and more expensive schooling for the middle class.
AUH is an utter failure. Like all State policies it only produces the opposite effect it was supposed to.
#6 C. Dura
May 17th, 2015 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I read the above post, doubt overtook me. I went to check World Bank data about Argentine education in the last 10 years.. All indicators show steady improvement. State investment in education has been going up as well.
Now, I am sure Argentina still needs to improve in many , many respects.
But is the sky falling?
Obviously not.
But there are those who want to return to regressive wealth distribution models such as that of the 1990s, in which only an elite benefited, bringing the country to its worst economic crisis in 2001.
They will of course tell you “this can't go any further.”
Interested profets of doom.
7. Old indoctrinated fart
May 17th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Education as a % of GDP doesn't mean anything at all. Throwing money at problems is not the solution.
PISA rankings show a significant drop in the quality of education since the 2000s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment#2000
Argentina 2000
Maths rank 34
Science rank 37
Reading rank 35
Argentina 2012
Maths rank 59
Science rank 58
Reading rank 60
What you have is more stupid more mediocre students, and the worst part of it is that only HALF the ammount of students finish highschool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment#2000
That is far worse than the 90s.
Besides why do you talk of these so called hideous 1990s if your ass was in Canada during those years???? Its just all hearsay that comes from the propaganda you have being reading.
#8 C. Dura
May 17th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is interesting information in the PISA program. I acknowledge Argentina has still serious shortcomings in education levels and too many high school and university drop outs.
However, you made things appear worse than they are by omitting important information shown in capitals:
Argentina 2000 COUNTRIES RANKED: 41
Maths rank 34 of 41 -- 388 points
Science rank 37 of 41 -- 406 points
Reading rank 35 of 41 -- 418 points
Argentina 2012 COUNTRIES RANKED: 65
Maths rank 59 of 65 -- 388 points
Science rank 58 of 65 -- 406 points
Reading rank 60 of 65 -- 396 points
Accordingly, there is not a fall from rank 37 to 58 in Science or similar in the other subjects like you suggested. Argentina remained constant in Maths and Science, but dropped 22 points in Reading.
High school drop out rates remain high but not worse than in the 1990s to 2002. According to a CEPAL 2001-2002 report, more than half and up to 60 per cent “suspend their education upon completing primary school.”
The lack of improvement is a failure. However, I believe your comment “What you have is more stupid more mediocre students” is mean and baseless. You show significant bias and a tendency to look at the “glass half empty” instead of considering the many improvements Argentina has experienced, some of which were justly recognized by the UN.
Further to that, your comment about my place of residence is irrelevant. Today, Internet does not give excuses to anyone to ignore reality--although it is true that you need to wade through a lot in order to get the right data in its right context.
Old indoctrinated fart.
May 17th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The CEPAL is made out of bureaucrats and the ones that represent Argentina belong to La Campora.
The points are unimportant because the tests have evolved and changed.
35 average rank out of 41 is 85% of the lowest 1999
59 average rank out of 61 is 96% of the lowest 2012
Hence Argentina has decreased significantly in its quality of education regarding the countries around it. Most significantly liberal Chile with far less spending on education over GDP has left Argentina far behind over 10 ranks in all tasks when in the late 1990s it was at par with Argentina.
In 2001 and 2002 there was a massive financial crisis and kids had to go to work. But drop outs in the 1990s were much lower than the 2000s.
Its nothing to do with Internet. I lived in the 1990s, I went to school in the 1990s.
Today the streets are in the school. You can get drugs and BJs when the bell rings. That did not exist in the 1990s fart. Mothers beat the shit out of teachers for passing low marks on their kids, if not the kids themselves beat their teachers
Stop talking about what you dont know about you ignorant old fagot.
#10 C. Dura
May 17th, 2015 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's difficult to argue with someone who dismisses sources as “being made out of bureaucrats.”
However, I am going to try once more and direct you to World Bank statistics. As far as I know, that organization hasn't yet fell prey to the fanatics of La Cámpora.
http://data.worldbank.org/country/argentina
Most indicators are in the right direction. Primary school enrollment is up, CO2 emissions are down, life expectancy is significantly higher than Latin America and Caraibes average, etc.
Drugs in schools are indeed a problem. But don't get me talking about drugs in Canadian schools as well as in any other developed country.
Oh, and for the word you used to call me a homosexual, you have to write “g” twice.
But the World Bank IS a bureaucratic and a branch of the United Nations , you are on drugs, Old fart !!!!!!!!!
May 17th, 2015 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The World Bank does use public Indec data , GDP is not 609 billion US$ in reality its half of that.
Primary school enrollment is up, yeah that means fuck all when only half of the students finnish school.
There was no drugs at school in the 1990s, you couldn't get a BJ in the bathrooms. None of that existed.
As I say enrollment in PRIVATE Schools has gone up 20% and public schools only 1% from 2003 to 2010. And it is the result of this AUH and the bad administration of the education during the KKrack pot years.
http://www.infobae.com/2013/03/09/700086-escuelas-la-matricula-privada-crecio-casi-7-veces-mas-que-la-publica
They have taken the Streets to the schools and forced the middle class students to move to private schools. And the worse part of it all the parents pay heavy taxes for school leavers and losers and mediocre students that vote for the Ks but also have to pay their own private fee for their kids to actually get to learn something and be in a safe environment at the same time.
And BTW faggot. Those PISA test have much make up with the test being conducted in PRIVATE institutes over public ones.
So those are the facts. Now shut the fuck up bitch, live in Canada and don’t know this country .
Who knew. The World Bank is “bureaucratic” therefore not worth checking. I should from now on get my information from the only owner of the Truth: Conqueror.
May 18th, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to be clear, I am for public education. However, I can't help but notice that the Kirchners have been accused of making the State control everything. And here we have private education flourishing! Would that mean they have been pretty pragmatic on this side of the equation?
I am going to leave you with a Wikipedia quote (sorry, I know Wiki is not generally accepted as a source) but couldn't help it:
”The Argentina Education is considered one of the most advanced, world culture and progressive in Latin America along with Cuba and Uruguay, as well, is firmly recognized and highlighted by various international organizations, such as the United Nations Educational , Scientific and Cultural Organization (Unesco) and the United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF).“
Wow. Did I read Cuba?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Argentina
Oh, by the way: I am happy that you learned how to write the word ”faggot.”
“Just to be clear, I am for public education. However, I can't help but notice that the Kirchners have been accused of making the State control everything. And here we have private education flourishing! Would that mean they have been pretty pragmatic on this side of the equation?”
May 18th, 2015 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical of communist like yourself that dont understand the princeple of market laws and very basic supply and demand laws.
Retard, what part dont you understand that private schooling increased as a direct consecuence of the collapse and detriment of public schooling and forced middle class kids to flock to private schools'????
Its not that KK intended this to happen. Its a matter of demand.
When you low the general quality of something as crucial as education the only result is that high income earners will shift to better alternatives.
Cuban education, Cuban health system.........all a myth. And UNESCO & UNICEF are just more bureaucratic institutions.
Jeez how sad it must be for being such a loser and not knowing fuck all at your age old git. Why dont you just shoot yourself and do us a favor in not wasting any more oxygen.
For fuck sakes.
Pretty much all the “global” institutions have been infected with La Campora WB IDB OAS IMF whereever they politically change reps they are now Marxists.
May 19th, 2015 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filthy filthy Marxists
For gosh sakes the Arg rep at IDB doesn't even speak English.
Total losers
The lot of them
Most looks like they need a good bath.
#14 and #15
May 20th, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow!
Am I all those things because I do not think like you respectable posters?
I am beginning to feel like I've stepped into a private club where only bashing of Argentina's government and Argentina as a whole is accepted.
However, I find MP a valuable source of information. You may have to endure me for the time being.
Yes you are all of those things.
May 20th, 2015 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#17 yankeeboy
May 21st, 2015 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you believe in democracy you should be prepared to accept the fact that other people may think differently.
If you attack, belittle and insult those who think different, you obviously don't believe in democracy, where dialogue, debate of ideas is generally accepted. Or perhaps you believe in democracy for some people or some countries, but not for others.
In your postings, for example, you pester against the political left, in spite of the fact that there are many citizens, political parties and governments systems that are located on that side of the political spectrum.
If you are sure of your own beliefs, you would be able to argue and put forth your ideas and arguments without becoming upset every time a post expresses something that does not fit with your vision of the world.
Reekie, I never become upset over postings here. This is merely a terrible hobby of mine.
May 21st, 2015 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has been proven that Democracy doesn't work in countries with a large amount of undereducated citizenry. You can use Veenzeula or Argentina as the perfect example of how the veil of democracy has made those countries dumber and poorer year after year, generation after generation.
Or Egypt, with Democracty they had terrorist running the country.
Or Iraq,
Those countries and I will put Argentina in that lot are not smart enough to have the people elect their own gov't. The votes are bought either outwardly with $ or goods or false promises of a better life without having to work for it.
Just look to Venezuela, people are living like animals due to “Democracy” and stupid people like you and Stevie think that's a good thing.
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