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Ford announces investments to boost car production in Argentina
Ford Argentina announced investments in the country for some 220 million dollars following a meeting between President Cristina Fernández and local and regional executives from the US corporation. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey have to sell those little vehicles somewhere. Might as well dump them on the rotting roadkillians.
May 30th, 2015 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Americans much prefer the F-250 and F-350 crewcabs to the tiny Ranger. This line is even produced in the larger F-450 and F-550 versions which are virtual monsters at towing and hauling but offer the same creature comforts of the lighter spec'd versions. We have no shortage of oil or fuel domestically and by today's standards it's cheap. The Focus is a fun little platform - particularly for the kids and ladies out running errands but in the domestic market it is considered much to small and modestly appointed to be a serious car.
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
Time to take a short position on Ford...
May 30th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this, of course, is merit of the argentinian engineers and technicians.
May 30th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the useless government has nothing to do with it.
now, it is funny that ford, one of the most important car companies on earth, trusts in the argentine subsidiary as the head of south america, while they cut their investments in england.
'Betrayal of the workforce': Ford blasted as 1,500 jobs axed with cutbacks at Dagenham HQ and end of UK Transit production“
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222524/Transit-van-factory-closure-Ford-blasted-1-500-jobs-axed-cutbacks-Dagenham-HQ-end-UK-Transit-production.html
which is pretty logic cause english engineers have demonstrated several times that they are useless, as when they ”designed“ this ”car“:
”How we made the Reliant Robin“
”Its steering wheel came off, its doors cracked in the wind, and it was voted the worst car ever. But the Reliant Robin was a design classic, say its creators – and even Princess Anne wanted one”
but the funniest thing is hearing a chilote opining about car industry...
as far as the whole fucking world knows, chilotelandia does not even produce supermarket karts.
@3 Don't you get embarrassed writing such drivel? You don't think it has anything to do with Argentines being cheap to employ?
May 30th, 2015 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I was living in Buenos Aires (something alien to you) there were a lot of US Ford workers there, flown in to troubleshoot and supervise the Argentine workforce.
elaina
May 30th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you know nothing.
100% of the production personnel, from labour to engineers are argentinian.
maybe a manager or two could be from the usa, but only involved in bureaucratic issues.
and i live in shan ishidro, elaina.
as far as i know IT IS buenos aires.
anyway, i strongly doubt that you have ever left the islets.
My son-in-law purchased an Argentine assembled Volkswagen Amarok and has been very satisfied with the performance and reliability. The only other assembly plant for the pickup is in Hannover, Germany and last year on a business trip to Europe, he dropped by a dealership in Spain to see the differences. What struck him was the quality and superior options. (About 50% of the Argentine version is manufactured in Argentina. The quality was noticeably inferior.) after research, the real shocker is that due to efficiency, the cost per unit assembly in Hannover is SUBSTANTIALLY cheaper for VW in Hannover!
May 30th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile assembled a variety of autos due to artificial tax incentives, but we learned in a free market it better to concentrate what we're really good at doing. Today, we have an open market for whatever we desire at low cost.
Mr. Bedpan Cleaner, Paulcedron, lives in a nest of thieves, pickpockets and low class gangsters... True Argentines...
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May 30th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe if you stayed out of McDonald's you could fit in a smaller car...normal cars aren't made for big fat arses.....
“We have no shortage of oil or fuel domestically and by today's standards it's cheap.”
Typical Yankee redneck attitude....we have plenty...let's guzzle it until we run out..and forget about the environment...who needs small eco engines when a V8 will do...to run to Walmart and Target....
When do you ever see anything in the back of those huge pick-ups apart from a Gun Box....
You are a joke....
7. LOL.
May 30th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not an issue of girth but one of height and luxury. Unaffordable in rotting roadkill - if you could even access one. A resonably equipped model would cost a rotting roadkillian 750,000 pesos before shipping and import duties. Powerstroke and leather is SWEEEEEEEEEEET.
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
Internationally #107 with a 34 score.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
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May 30th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and that is relevant to me... being in Scotland and being 6'2”...exactly how...?
I'm not sure if you realise..but one actually sits in a car...Doh!..
The VW's built in The Dark Country, Amarok, Suran and the other small passenger cars are noticeable of lower build quality than my GOL, hence I will not be buying a car assembled in TDC when I buy another new car early next year.
May 30th, 2015 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argie Focus is something like three generations behind the European car and it shows. In Uruguay they still demand almost U$D 30,000 for the thing and their is no automatic option available. No wonder they don't sell.
I can't see what U$D 220M netted out to U$D 40M is going to do for Ford other than a cosmetic makeover on the old platform. Junk as usual.
LOL. The 2016 Ford Focus RS will be all wheel drive and produce in excess of 315 horsepower. Can you say slingshot?
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
Thank God the Australian government stopped subsidising auto manufacturing in Australia.
May 30th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Designing and engineering cars is worthwhile and a proper fit for developed economies. However the manufacturing is best left to low end and poorly educated workers. Which is why it is a better fit for developing countries such as Argentina, Thailand, India, etc.
Ford's investment is just recognition that Argentina is a poor country that has an uneducated workforce that is perfect for bolting panels to a chassis and dropping motors into a hole. It also recognises that they can't repatriate profits easily so may well make the money do something. And that is produce products that Argentineans purchase to hedge against inflation.
And US$220 million. Is that all? About how much my state government just announced they were spending on some new trams. Let alone the A$1.7 BILLION on new trains.
Ford, GM and Toyota are all based and manufacturein Melbourne and will soon be gone. Our economy has just moved beyond such low end manufacturing whereas Argentina can't escape it.
christine
May 30th, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what YOU need is a reliable english car, very popular in that island, even with the royal family.
you will love it.
in this video, it is tested by jeremy clarkson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
what else can you ask?
english engineering at its best.
I wouldn't mind this English car...
May 30th, 2015 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/media/assets/submodel/6255.jpg
@12 - Like Skip says, US$220 million is really not much, just “piss in the ocean.”
May 31st, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0No big thing... I'm surprised it even made the MercoPress news.
No surprisingly, the naysayers are again at work, consoling each other that “this is not big deal;” or “those cars are not serious” and a host of similar rants more typical of spoiled kid tantrums than of reasonable adults.
May 31st, 2015 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on. Be adults and accept the reality that Argentina keeps chugging along pretty well in the midst of a sluggish world economy. You would not believe--I hope--that Ford is investing just for the love of it. They expect to make a profit, nothing else, and are betting those cars will be sold.
However...”The Americans much prefer the F-250 and F-350 crewcabs (or) the larger F-450 and F-550 versions which are virtual monsters...” triumphantly announces Chronic at #1, adding the U.S. have cheap fuel to burn. His statement is a good example of all that is wrong with North America, which burns oil at more than twice the rates of the most developed European countries.
Chronic got an excellent response from Voice at #7.
Enrique, despite all your bullshit you live in North America and are part of the problem - hypoctite! Its noticeable that all the trolls choose to live outside Argylands borders including the serial liar Paul.
May 31st, 2015 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only reason to locate a car factory in Argyland is that it is slipping from tbe first world into the third world at a rate of knots. Third world labour costs less.
As for the poison dwarf can you really believe even a sentence!
@ 13 POLLY
May 31st, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0:o) :o) :o)
Skip et al.
From my post @ 10: it's not even U$D 220M.
“I can't see what U$D 220M netted out to U$D 40M [OOPS! it's U$D 100M] is going to do for Ford other than a cosmetic makeover on the old platform.”
They claim “that local terminals will “need” 120 million dollars less a year to pay for imports,”
Still peanuts though. :o)
Ford and all intl mfgs ate in a terrible spot.they've not been able to repatriate profits for many years some have gone so far as to buy property they don't want to try to protect the savings.
May 31st, 2015 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is nothing more than a PR release most likely there was a deal to give them the blue rate on their savings if they announced an I vestments plan. Even if they don't end up following through on it.
Everyone is holding their breath waiting for the next govt.
If it's a K the exodus will continue at a quicker rste.
@13
May 31st, 2015 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 4WD mobility scooter that Argentina has designed and built ( the Puta) is awesome, especially its cutting edge tin roof!
The windscreen ( recycled cracked window panes from demolished 19th century Argentine shacks), is also breath taking as are the windscreen wipers (slivers of recycled tyre burnings) operated by Argentine Army surplus boot laces being pulled, attached to the drivers left foot.
I'm overjoyed to see the proposed larger model, the Gaucho Rivero with luxury extras like brakes, and a tin roof with guttering attached, is soon to be launched to the delight of huge cheering crowds in B.A.
You will be delighted to learn that after you have landed at Princes Street stone run-way(not tarmacked, but your 60s vintage aircraft should handle that OK) you will be picked up by an Argentine 4WD Puta mobility scooter for a luxury ride into town, a white knuckle ride at 2mph.
Can't wait to hear that you've arrived in the Falklands amigo, and rumours are that the Governor will meet you so that the CT scanners you are donating can be officially received on behalf of the 'population.'
“His statement is a good example of all that is wrong with North America, which burns oil at more than twice the rates of the most developed European countries.”
May 31st, 2015 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NOTE: The above statement reflects an inherent bias present in a value system that has been overwhelming rejected by the vast majority of world - specifically:
All of North America
Most of LatAm (Chavaland, Cuba & rotting roadkill being notable exceptions)
China
India
Russia
Africa
And much of Europe.
The masses want MORE - not LESS - Reeeeeeeeeeeekie.
The U.S. literally invented the oil business. It's asinine to imply that it is somehow wrong for the U.S. to engage in the production of petroleum. And no one in the U.S. care about your perception of their level of use of it. LOL. Why are you so jealous of the excesses of the U.S.? Is it because you are just like a kid with his nose pressed against the window of the candy store - with no money and no credit.
[Who is Christian Rubilar?]
Why does @ 90% of the Canuck population live less than 100 miles from the U.S. border? LOL.
Do you now or have you ever owned or operated a moped as your primary means of personal transportation?
Try to flog your communist/green babble elsewhere. LOL.
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
Internationally #107 with a 34 score.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
One can sense the desperation of the prophets of doom who just a few months ago were predicting the demise of Argentina at the hands of judge Thomas Griesa and his vulture friends.
May 31st, 2015 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They were overjoyed when Griesa forced a “technical default” on Argentina by preventing it from servicing its foreign debt.
When prosecutor Alberto Nisman died, the same prophets again predicted political chaos and a quick fall for a government they had already decided it was the murderer.
And here we are: Investors are piling up to do business with Argentina, a country that is now putting its eggs on many different baskets--hey, it's cultivating good relationships with China, with Russia--and now, to top it all, it's ready to receive fresh US dollars from none other than flag company Ford Motor Company!
I feel your pain.
22. Retard, those aren't “fresh funds” those are trapped funds they negotiated to get the blue rate.
May 31st, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove me wrong.
@22 EM
May 31st, 2015 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And here we are: Investors are piling up to do business with Argentina”.
Piling up? Is it this article that allows you the above statement? This article does seem to contradict predictions here that the auto companies would soon be leaving Argentina. But it seems to be about “one” investor“. not a pile.
If investors are ”piling up“, can you tell us more about that ”pile” of investors?
Yes, indeed. Good times for rotting roadkill. Winning! Cretina for Queen!
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
Internationally #107 with a 34 score.
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
@Skip
May 31st, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Volkswagen Amarok Overview by Brad Leach (Australia) after testing Argentine made Amarok dual-cab
Volkswagen Amarok might be made in Argentina but everywhere you look is the precision, quality and style which are the hallmarks of Germany’s number one car-maker.”
VW wanted to make a vahicle to compete in the segment where Toyota is so popular especially in SA with it Hylux.
They thought to make the project in Hanover (Germany) but high cost to adapt facilities in Germany and car crisis in Europe, etc. made them dropped Hanover and evaluate other locations and they picked up Argentina.
See the map of VW factories around the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories#/media/File:World_locations_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories_updated.svg
The project took 4 years with an investment of $1.300 million (Pesos) and part of that capital (170 m US) was financed by the EIB (European Investment Bank).
The team heading the project were from Germany and Argentina and the look and feel of the vehicle was made by Da Silva.
1000 new employees were employed and the factories CIP (Pacheco) and CIC (Cordoba) were adapted to produce new parts and assembly lines.
The CIC plant where transmitions and gear boxes are made for several VW models produces a gear box set every 17 seconds being the second largest plant in the world after Kassel in Germany (According with VW info 2015).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories#/media/File:World_locations_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories_updated.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories#/media/File:World_locations_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories_updated.svg
Amarok has become very successful that VW exported it to Brazil, Mexico, Germany, Russia, UK and Australia and also later to US and other markets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories#/media/File:World_locations_of_Volkswagen_Group_factories_updated.svg
@ Chicureo
Just wonder, how VW Amarok made in Hanover would have better quality and parts as you say if they are using pre-assembled parts (kits) made in Argentina?
“In 2012 VW started Amarok production in Germany with pre-assembled parts (Kits) made in Argentina.” source VW CEO.
Dany, How's 9/1 Gov't rate treating your savings. Didn't I tell you at 4/1 to put your money in U$.
May 31st, 2015 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
This is a PR stunt and nothing more.
Gads people are so gullible.
They only take U$ for cars in Venezuela and the same thing will happen in Argentina
Watch and see
@ 26 DanyBerger
May 31st, 2015 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you have been misinformed, check the links below and what the guy from VW said about producing 185 units a day in Hanover AND that the plant in Argentina will focus on SA.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/11/2014-volkswagen-amarok-canyon-quick-spin/
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/11/2014-volkswagen-amarok-canyon-quick-spin/
@ChrisR
May 31st, 2015 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you read the part where I said to Chicureo...
“In 2012 VW started Amarok production in Germany with pre-assembled parts (Kits) made in Argentina.” source VW CEO. ???????
The Argentinean plant were intended to produce 110k units per year and to be sold only 20k in the local market and the other 80k units to be exported.
But the Argentine and Brazilian market archived record sales of Amarok units and export demand in 2010 reached 140k units to be produced.
So according with Viktor Klima (former VW CEO in Argentina) as Pacheco plants have reached full production capacity they have to desire if they will move Suran production to other location to reach the new demand.
So intead to do that they turned Hanover plant that was used as paint shop for Porsche Panamera into a new assembly line using parts pre-assembled and exported from Argentina to assemble Amarok single-cab units.
The Hanover plant only have production capacity for 40k units/ years as well is said in one of the articles but they are only producing 30k/35k units.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-vw-production-idUSBREA0Q0OM20140127
So as you can see European vehicle demand seems to be flat not even enough to keep plants open.
Of coruse Argentina will concentrate in SA market because is the bigest market and for logistic point of view is the right thing to do.
Have no sense to send vehicles to eastern Europe from SA when they can be delivered from Germany or to send vehicles from Germany to SA when they can be delivered cheaper from Argentina or Brazil.
Do you think that they would have to picked up UK instead of Argentina to produce HQ vehicles?
Oops Argie Amarok in UK
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-vw-production-idUSBREA0Q0OM20140127
If you'll review my earlier posting, I said my son-in-law was very satisfied with the Amarok he owns.
May 31st, 2015 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roomy, tough, comfortable and beautifully designed.
According to my son, the interior options in the Hanover version are much nicer. would have better quality and parts as you say if they are using pre-assembled parts (kits) made in Argentina?
@ 29 DanyBerger
May 31st, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I watched the vid of Tinkerbell driving the Amarok.
At no time did she mention Argentina, nor was it mentioned in the ;show all' blurb.
Can you really imagine that it makes commercial sense to have all the kit sent over to Germany if the argie ones are selling so good? Really?
CKD is usually for helping third world countries get into auto assembly at low cost by the use of obsolete designs: that hardly relates to Germany or to the Amarok.
Oops Argie Ford Ranger in the UK.
May 31st, 2015 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0zzgK6XTI8
btw, love the accent of that girl.
bet she speaks totally different from you, you isleteers, and your unintelligible jibber-jabber
@Chicureo
Jun 01st, 2015 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amarok can be bought in many different flavours and restylings as they called.
Depends how much you want to pay is what you get, so models range from basic single-cab like the Startline to the black label limited edition, etc.
So yo can get your Amarock with a single-cab, doble-cab, automatic gearbox, diferent engines, seats made in fine leather, accsesories like cameras, etc
Here you have a broucher http://vw.tribaldevelop.com/pdf/amarok.pdf of some models
Here yo have more “2015 model” http://vw.tribaldevelop.com/pdf/amarok.pdf
Black Label limited edition
http://vw.tribaldevelop.com/pdf/amarok.pdf
All are made in Argentina in Gral. Pacheco plant.
Oh! waite a minute I just found your HQ and better made Amarok from Germany...
http://vw.tribaldevelop.com/pdf/amarok.pdf
Ha ha
@ChrisR
All these Amarok were made in Argentina as well said the guy in this video from UK
http://vw.tribaldevelop.com/pdf/amarok.pdf
“Can you really imagine that it makes commercial sense to have all the kit sent over to Germany if the argie ones are selling so good? Really? “
And?
As you problably already know as you are an engineer to build a brand new vehicle you need to build a supply chain (Auto-parts makers, etc) or do you think that VW makes all parts?
So if you have a hot demand waiting for your vehicles and you have your assembly plant in Hanover ready to start to assembly vehicles, etc. has a lot of sense to ship parts from the location that is already producing them like spare parts, frames, etc.
“CKD is usually for helping third world countries get into auto assembly at low cost by the use of obsolete designs: that hardly relates to Germany or to the Amarok.”
Your clock is set backward lets say 30 years.
This was true 30 years ago perhaps, since later 80 and 90 countries like Brazil were exporting FIAT cars to Italy of models that never have been made in Italy.
The Amarock assembled in Argentina lacks some of the better quality amenities, especially regarding the interior of the German version, but as I said before, my son-in-law is very satisfied with his Argentine truck.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why anyone would buy a car made in Argentina. They're terrible quality and do not meet what I would consider basic safety standards.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone who's read an Arg newspaper or seen a car accident in person knows what I am talking about.
No where else have I ever seen worse accidents. The Arg cars don't even look like cars in the end.
It is shameful.
completely shameful.
@yankeeboy
Jun 01st, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't know why anyone would buy a car made in Argentina”
Who knows?
But in US are forums and facebook pages claiming VW to bring Amarok to US.
Bring the Volkswagen Amarok to the United States
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-the-Volkswagen-Amarok-to-the-United-States/295631670458566
But VW instead will give you...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-the-Volkswagen-Amarok-to-the-United-States/295631670458566
Why It's Not Coming Here: VW Amarok priced at $35k in Europe
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-the-Volkswagen-Amarok-to-the-United-States/295631670458566
Of course Mexican, Brazilian, Autralian, UK and the rest of the world will recived Amaroks made in Argentina.
But bloke countries will have to waite much longer I suppose...
Because they are expensives and so you have to keep buying old fashion crappy Fords, GM, etc.
So you don't have to care about it because will be no ARG trucks in USA...
The waiting list is too long from rich customers around the globe wanting to buy Amaroks to waste time poor people...
36. Dany, 9/1 today gov't rate. 17/1 if you use ( doubt you have one tho) your credit card outside of Arg.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
In all fairness, Argentina has never had a reputation of highly reliable assembly. Neither do many other developing countries. (For many years, the US and UK had a terrible reputation.) Japanese and German assembly remain the standard for quality.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 038. Argentina is the only country I know where a washing machine can kill you, either it catches fire or electrocutes you.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take your pick
Oh wait it will choose for you..
Like winning the lottery but in reverse.
@ 39 yankeeboy
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is the only country I know where a washing machine can kill you, either it catches fire or electrocutes you.”
Now come on! You know that's not correct!
How can it electrocute you when there's NO electricity! :o)
40. That's how sneaky they are...
Jun 01st, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its the brownouts that will kill ya
those machines are evil..
You know one of the best things about being back in a civilized country is always having electricity. Not one time in the whole time I've been back have I ever been out. Not even during a hurricane.
You forget how easy life is here. So much less to worry about.
yb
Jun 01st, 2015 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is the only country I know where a washing machine can kill you, either it catches fire or electrocutes you.”
but there isn't any registered case or report about it, except yours, of course.
i bet you connected the wire to the tap and the hose to the outlet.
Registered case? Oh for gosh sakes. In that horrible place? You don't even keep track of kidnappings.
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us all Paul is your washing machine plugged in when you're not using it?
No it's not
Why
Because they catch fire
BTW I didn't do anything I had 5 people full time working in my house. I asked the head maid why everything was always unplugged and that's what she told me. In the USA we don't worry about that kind of stuff.
But you'll never know what it's like to live in a civilized place.
Also it's pouring out now and I have electricity and internet.
Of this you could only dresm
And im sire your mouth would be hanging open with amazement wondering how we do it.
“BTW I didn't do anything I had 5 people full time working in my house.”
Jun 01st, 2015 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and then you woke up...
The house and garden was big and that included the driver. I never understood why people in SoAm required so many staff coming from the USA but once I lived there I couldn't have enjoyed myself without them.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everything is 10X more difficult in SoAM than in the USA. It takes 10x longer and 50 stops at different places to do what we can do online.
Good gracious when I lived there you had to pay your monthly bills in cash in a long line with everyone else. They didn't even take foreign credit cards. Do you really think I'm going to spend my life standing in a line to pay someone?
Not going to happen.
BTW is your washing machine unplugged when not in use?
Simple question
and don't lie
because every house I ever went to in Arg had their machine unplugged when not in use.
CLARIFICATION
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the last 10 days or so, a poster nicknamed Chronic has been posting an excerpt of a post of mine—out of context.
Unable to cope with dissent, this individual has resorted to harassment and abuse of this forum. I am reproducing below the conversation from which the excerpt was taken:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
#32
RE: “Argies lie as a matter of course.”
EM: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of the Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
Paul, I was thinking later about your post. I wasn't bragging in my post it was more an indictment of SoAm in general and Argentina in particular. I certainly didn't want to have so many people working for me. But it was a necessity.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My gosh you people don't even have clothes dryers in your homes! I couldn't even buy a residential one and the washers are tiny! We did have a dishwasher thank goodness but i don't think the cook ever used it. I think she was afraid of it.
Its like you all are living in the 1930s, you know most people in the USA had home help then too. We advanced and you all just stayed somewhere in the past.
You have to remember in the USA people are expensive and technology is cheap. In Argentina people are cheap and technology is expensive.
So I adapted to your ways and used cheap labor to compensate for the low technology.
That's why you're devolving
and will forevermore.
yb
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Good gracious when I lived there you had to pay your monthly bills in cash in a long line with everyone else.”
and when was that?
in the 1930´s?
2001-2006.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a backward backwater 13 hrs by plane from civilization.
How many months do you have to work for a new iphone?
is it over 24 now?
Can you even get one if you could afford it?
I remember when I moved back I was shocked at how fast the internet was and how smooth everything worked in the USA.
When you live in a sh*thole, everyday a little bit is taken away so you don't really notice until its all gone.
I'm talking about your dignity too.
@yankeeboy
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you ever heard about home banking?
About your tale of the washing machine... uff please your are lacking of imagination...
Anyway you will not have Amaroks like the rest of the workd, sorry...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldWfgFTpUg
Dany, That's akin to asking me if I want to be repeatedly hit on the head.
Jun 02nd, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No thanks I'll pass.
Are you on some sort of work release after your last disappearance?
How the 9/1 treating you?
By my count you lost 250% of your purchasing power
Home Banking indeed.
:)
#50 DannyBerger
Jun 04th, 2015 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy is a strange character.
He professes to hate Argentina yet he posts about it all the time.
He says he hates crime, yet he approves summary executions by trigger-happy police in his own country.
He also approves torture and illegal executions carried out by the state terrorism in Argentina.
He tells himself of terrible things that will soon unfold in Argentina--apparently he has been predicting doom and gloom for some years--and squeals in delight at the thought of it.
Anyway, he apparently is now safely back in the U.S. Argentina can breath with relief.
@ 52 KMPH
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The worms have been working through your potato head I see.
Yankeeboy seems to have hit a nerve given that you are throwing insults around as usual whilst protesting it's everybody else that's doing it.
I should stay in Canada, it's safer for you there. Hypocritical of you, but safer.
@Enrique Massot
Jun 04th, 2015 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Anyway, he apparently is now safely back in the U.S. Argentina can breath with relief.”
Yeah! since Yankeeboy departure from argiland crime and corruption have dropped drastically in Argentina and reported electrocuted people using washing machines=0.
Unfortunately seems that Yankeeboy was so bussy in Miami and Switzerland doing business with Joseph Blatter and selling swimming pools.
CCTV footage shows moment children were electrocuted in swimming pool in Florida
http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/22/cctv-footage-shows-moment-children-were-electrocuted-in-swimming-pool-4736430/#ixzz3c64Dq0Yw
Sad, very sad to live in a country where people are electrocuted in a SP....
Dany, I keep asking you how do you like the 9.02/1? Do you like having to work 12 mos to buy a new iphone.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahha
You should've listened to me when I told you to buy as many U$ as you could.
But alas
You're an Rg, a Marxist so you're too stupid to listen to good advice.
@yankeeboy
Jun 04th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just wonder why are you so obsessed with chinese made products like Iphones, etc.
Oh! sorry I realise now that you don't know that all Apple products are made by FoXconn in China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9pi9AKXfzA
Do yo want to buy also Irons made in China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9pi9AKXfzA
Dany, How do you like the 9.02/1? Can you still afford to eat?
Jun 04th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inflation will be over 50% next year and Arg will be in a depression.
I can't wait to see the street violence.
I can't wait.
:)
@ 56 DanyBerger
Jun 04th, 2015 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I enjoyed that vid of the biggest factory in the world, it reminded me of how electrical and electronic products were made in the UK 40 years ago before we stopped making the mistakes that you saw there.
Did you notice that they spent a lot of time chasing the press, weld and metal chassis shops?
No sight of computerised production control and they made everything themselves - they should be ashamed at how badly things were co-ordinated.
As for electrical testing with a wand!!! No wonder the “technician” was scared some customers would be electrocuted, scalded or both with his new coffee maker. Our test machines were automated and would not ALLOW a failed unit to be removed from the test rig without an independent check by the engineering department (mine). That soon encouraged production to make the things correctly.
Back to the future or what?
If you set an Amarok to heavy duty work on an estancia, you'll find yourself replacing it with a Toyota or Chevrolet in quite a short period of time. First hand experience.
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