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Cristina Fernandez and her grouping lead comfortably ahead of elections
Argentine president Cristina Fernández will end her second term with an approval rating of 60%, according to the Equist political consultancy firm. On the other hand, PRO presidential candidate and Buenos Aires City Mayor Mauricio Macri enjoys a positive image among 30% of the country's population. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell there ARE at least a few Argentines I personally know that are fed up with Kirchnerism and all it's corrupt politics.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Respected Chilean politician Ignacio Walker wrote: “I tend to think the real wall that separates Chile from Argentina is not the Andes but the legacy of Peronism and its perverse logic”.
Frankly, I don't believe it. Two possibilities.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The text of the article strongly suggests to me that this consultancy firm is pro Justice Party, pro Peronist or pro Kirchner. And how often does honest data come from those sources?
The other possibility is that the majority of argies really are that stupid. Let's take a look at what's going on. Inflation rising again. Kicilloff is still lying his head off. There' s going to be a refuse collection strike over demands for a 35% pay increase. Argieland still can't satisfy the IMF over the price index. The 'government' is still flailing around trying to get rid of Supreme Court Judge Fayt. Argieland still trying to evade its debts. Trade with Brazil dropping. Anibal the Animal is still trying to pervert the course of justice over Nisman's death.
This is what she 'presides' over.
Kirchnerism is not going to win. This Lopez is a famous K pollster
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You want a real professional pollster??
http://www.agrositio.com/canal_agrositio/entrevistas.asp?id=166696
This is why MM is not going to join up with Massa. Its just not worth it.
Only and perhaps he will add up De Narvaez with Vidal in the province of BsAs and the rest is all a myth. Scioli is bearly 30% and the opposition will flock to whoever is closer to unthrone the Ks.
Its recent electoral Argentine history, it happened in 2003 with Menem. It happaned in 2009 & 2013 mid terms in the Province of BsAs
Opinion polls!?! Did anyone follow the U.K. general election? That is the value of opinion polls.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amongst Argentines I know well even the most rabid of CFK supporters have completely lost faith in her. Of course, a lot will sell their votes like the last election. I guess it depends how much of their stolen loot the Kirchner camp want to spend .
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Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because your system is a load of crap and predicting a outcome is virtually imposible.
Browse Giaccobe's polls from 2009 and they have all being pin point accurate.
The latest one for March has an English version
http://giacobbeconsultores.com/descargas/informe_nacional_marzo_2015_eng.pdf
There is no way Scioli wins.
#5 CD
Jun 04th, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the link. It's comforting to see that at least my Argentine neighbors are not blind to the Nisman murder scandal.
Mercopress, do not be so candid, Lopez is the official government analyst for campaign results. You should ask some others analysts before writing about these matters...
Jun 04th, 2015 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The article is gibberish. The rotting roadkillians are fools and may very well endorse the continued corruption of the K-swine/perronista dogs.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For review:
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Anyone that takes any statement from a representative of rotting roadkillian interests at face value should be committed for observation.
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When (if) the current set of thieves leave power the next group will have to audit YPF, ANSES, BCRA, ETC - to see if anything actually ever did exist.
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rotting roadkill has defaulted on the repayment of its so called sovereign debt eight (8) times since 1839.
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rotting roadkill is #1 with 73%!
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/11646110/Revealed-the-nationality-most-likely-to-steal-from-hotels.html
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rotting roadkill is #107 with a 34 score!
www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
“I tend to think the real wall that separates Chile from Argentina is not the Andes but the legacy of Peronism and its perverse logic”. Brilliant and excelent comment. No doubt about it.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I WON'T FED UP OF SAYING THIS.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As i said a few days ago, some people continue to commit the stupid mistake of believing in polls. It's well known that most them are distorted on behalf of those who pay for them (politicians and media corporations)
All those citizens who want to analize politic seriously, should see that there are other important facts, which are much more relevant than what polls say. When i see that the most powerful media corporations of the country, ask massa desperately to form a big coallition with Macri, in order to compete with kirchnerism, is because beyond the hypocritical lectures that many of those mediocre journalists from our hegemonical press do, f. p. v. has still big chances of winning the elections in october, otherwise, it wouldn't be necesary to form any big coallition, to try to win f. p.v.
Anyway, i would be as irresponsable as those cretins, if i said that f. p. v. will win, because actualy it will depend absolutly on the lectures that our citiziens do, of all these years of kirchnerism, and of the actual social situation.
On the other hand, what some people don't see, is that even if f. p. v. loses the elections, nobody will be able to dismantle the achivements that workers could get since 2003, without paying a big politic cost, in fact, even a reactionary like Macri says that in case he is elected as president, he will keep them. Although i don't believe a word of what that guy says, it's obvious that he is not stupid, beside, he and all the rest of the pre candidats know perfectly that people have already empowered of all the achievements that workers got.
Even if conservatives win, and althoug they carry on some of their reactionary policies, they won't be able to return to the levels of high unemployment, like in the 90's, which is actualy what businessmen want, because they want to pay misserable salaries, otherwise, they won't last too much in office.
Well. Don't wanna say 'told you so,' but here it is.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is no longer whether Kirchnerism is going to win, but whether it will by knock out in the first round.
This latest poll shows that the population has not been led down the garden path by attempts to discredit CFK's government.
Rather, electors recognize facts such as the government's strong social inclusion politics, the reshaping of the national income pie towards the poor, and a social progressive agenda that included prosecuting crimes against humanity perpetrated in the 1970s.
Beyond the ups and downs of an economy that has demonstrated strong resiliency, Argentines appreciate the building of a strong domestic sector that provides jobs and avoids the bleeding of dollars to pay for imports.
This government has achieved that by following a direction 180 degrees opposed to the free-market recipes promoted by the IMF and similar groups.
Could go on and on, but suffice to say that the Kirchners have already won a place in history that no naysayer will ever be able to erase.
CFK's parties seem to be closely in the path of FIFA in the way that the track of corruption closely parallels the massive siphoning away of the millions.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CLARIFICATION
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A poster under the nickname of Chronic has been repeatedly posting an excerpt of a post of mine out of context to purposely distort its meaning. (See #8).
Unable to cope with dissent, this individual has resorted to harassment and abuse of this forum. See below the conversation in context:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
#32
RE: “Argies lie as a matter of course.”
EM: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
@11
Jun 04th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique, there are some questions pending to be answered by you in other article. I can “copy-paste” it for you in case you cannot see it. I would love to read your answer.
In addtion, I always ask myself why a strong economy with excelent perfomarmance needs fake and forged statistics. Why Indec is lying and publishing false information about inflation, GDP growth, etc?
10. I asked you the same question when you copy pasted this same shit....
Jun 04th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is Clarin demanding Macri to join up with Massa?? Have you talked to the chief editor, Kirchbaum?? Magnetto told you so?? Or was ir Noble de Herrara who you guys should apolagize too since 2010??
Its very easy look into the history of Artemio Lopez “Equis” consultancy and compare that to Giacobbe... Ohhh of course Giaccobe is not worthy because he predicts Macri is going to win therefore he must be paid by Macri?? No matter then what he said in 2011 and 2007??
That is why a honourable name a history and prestige is important.
That is why the 678 fuckers are not worth a fraction of what Lanata is worth.
In the real world it really works like that. Not in Kirchnerlandia.
@Reek how much is the government paying you to write propaganda here???
#14 pgerman
Jun 04th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Indec is lying and publishing false information about inflation, GDP growth, etc?” Is that possibly true? But how could they do that? Don't they realize that the IMF, the World Bank and all the bond rating agencies will lose confidence in future loans, leaving Argentina almost unable to borrow money? That it would leave only lenders of last resort charging high usury rates and unfavorable terms? Certainly no Western civilized country would be that irresponsible and stupid!
rotting roadkill doesn't need any stinking statistics . . .
Jun 04th, 2015 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0--------------------------------------------
How does rotting roadkill stack up internationally in the international morality indexes?
#104 with a score of 3.8!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#1 with a score of 5393
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#54 with a score of .52!
worldjusticeproject.org/rule-law-around-world
#1 with 73%!
www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/hotels/11646110/Revealed-the-nationality-most-likely-to-steal-from-hotels.html
#107 with a 34 score!
www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
CLARIFICATION
Jun 04th, 2015 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An individual posting in this forum under the nickname of Chronic has taken an excerpt of a post of mine out of context to purposely change its meaning. (See #6 and #12).
Unable to cope with dissent, the said poster has resorted to this form of harassment and abuse.
Below is the excerpt in question in its right context:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
RESPONSE: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
I apologize to readers and other posters for the inconvenience. Please understand that for as long as this individual is allowed to keep his unfair practices, I will need to follow up with necessary clarifications.
CLARIFICATION
Jun 04th, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An individual posting in this forum under the identity of Enrique Massot apparently due to a disagreement of opinion with another identity Chronic which has been bringing the rest of us here to complete boredom. It is completely normal and common for the pro-Kirchner Cámpora fanatics misstate pro-Falklands posters excerpts completely out of context to purposely change their meanings. (See numerous vile examples by the Cámpora trolls in the Mercopress archives.)
Unable to cope with dissent, the said Massot poster has resorted to a form of harassment and abuse to innocent contributors that think he's being thin skinned and absolutely ridiculously acting persecuted. (Typical Argentine by the way... Sort of like we sent our our battle cruiser after attacking your territory and you sunk it...resulting in 30 years of incessant wailing...)
Below is actually the clear truth about his countrymen in an accurate context:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....” (Accurate by the way.)
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
RESPONSE: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.” (Really Enrique, about the most accurate thing you can say about your countrymen and Conqueror would bring more truth to your government.)
I apologize to readers and other posters for the inconvenience. Please understand that for as long as this Massot individual is keeps boring us to tears, I will need to follow up with necessary clarifications.
Cretina for Queen of rotting roadkill.
Jun 04th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0--------------------------------------------
How does rotting roadkill stack up in the international morality indexes?
#104 with a score of 3.8!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#1 with a score of 5393!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#54 with a score of .52!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#1 with 73%!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
#107 with a 34 score!
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2014-15/Argentina.pdf
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Enrique Massot: “Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars.”
“Cristina Fernandez and her grouping lead comfortably ahead of elections”
Jun 04th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and
“Argentine president Cristina Fernández will end her second term with an approval rating of 60%, according to the Equist political consultancy firm. ”
this fourth class newspaper...MON DIEU.
first it is EQUIS, not equist, you assholes.
second, it belongs to one of kirchner´s minions artemio lópez.
the same imbecile who said that there was not inflation a pair of years ago.
so what can you expect?
you. merdopress, can stick that headline up your arse
CLARIFICATION
Jun 05th, 2015 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0An individual posting in this forum under the nickname of Chronic has taken an excerpt of a post of mine out of context to purposely change its meaning. (See #6 and #12).
Unable to cope with dissent, the said poster has resorted to this form of harassment and abuse.
Below is the excerpt in question in its right context:
32 Conqueror - May 18th, 2015 - 03:03 pm
@26. “…Argies lie as a matter of course. You do it yourself....”
33 Enrique Massot May 18th, 2015 - 04:02 pm
RESPONSE: “I am totally humbled by such a thoughtful statement. Here It is, all the issues of a nation of forty-some million people explained in just seven words. We are all liars. We should realize that, become a protectorate and name Conqueror as Minister of Truth. Finally, all will be solved.”
I apologize to readers and other posters for the inconvenience. For as long as this individual is allowed to keep his unfair practices, I will need to post this clarification.
The entire world looks to Argentina for economic advice.
Jun 05th, 2015 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique Massot (# 18)
Jun 05th, 2015 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0CLARIFICATION
An individual posting in this forum has taken exception to a post of mine out of context to purposely change its meaning. (See #12).
That was the whole point, Enrique.
The corrupt Argentinian CFK government and the corrupt FIFA have so much in common. Their ability to hang on to power is incredible.
I'm a firm believer in the saying, that you get what you ask for. Long may it be so in Argentina.
Jun 05th, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CABEZA DURA (15).
Jun 07th, 2015 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I won't waste my time talking about pulls, because i already said what i think about them, you are the one who believes in them not me.
On the other hand, in some way, it's expectable that a poor reactionary and hypocrite like you, continues to date what somebody like Lanata says, even despite it was prooved in many opportunities that what he informed, in several of his reports, where no more than mediatic operations, full of lies or too partial truths.
As far as i'm concerned, i don't make a religion of pagina12 and 678, although i read that newspaper, and what the program, i don't buy in some opportunities what they say. Anyway, anybody has right to agree or not on their editorial line, however although you don't accept it, in most both inform, they don't distort the facts, as clarin and la nación often do, your so loved independent press.
Beside, if you wonder who is asking Massa to form a big coallition with Macri, just listen to the decarations of many politicians and journalists from the opposition.
Finally, i want to you to explain me why should we apologize Noble de Herrera?, i hope it's not what i am thinking, that's why i hope your answer, because i want to be sure of not having missunderstood what you said.
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