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Bolivia's Morales does not support Mercosur/EU deal based on 'competitive' trade

Thursday, June 11th 2015 - 00:29 UTC
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Bolivian president Evo Morales said that if Mercosur insists in forging a trade agreement with the European Union, Bolivia will have to 'withdraw“, because ”we support solidarity and not competitive trade”. Morales is in Brussels attending the EU/Celac heads of government and state summit which takes off on Thursday. Read full article

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  • Chicureo

    Oh no! Bolivia may leave Mercosur...

    Maybe Venezuela and Argentina may join the exit...

    They'll be parades of celebration in Paraguay and Uruguay.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Oh, dear...

    that Morales really seems to feel threatened, easily.

    He has a big chip on his shoulder.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The opinion of Evo Morales is worth more than the opinion of all the English-speaking of the world.
    Nothing will be done without the consent of Bolivia.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @3 “Nothing will be done without the consent of Bolivia.” Hahahaha

    Do you have to write to Evo for permission before you post here?

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    The streets are beginning to form an opinion.

    No agreement.

    Grande Evo!!

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 2 Troy Tempest
    “He has a big chip on his shoulder”

    He also has a Cow Pat on his head © ChrisR 2012. :o)

    If the Cow Pat doesn't like it he can always runaway and cry to Fidel, if the commie bastard is still alive.

    @ 5 Breakdown R Us

    Even allowing for your puerile mental capacity that post is jibber-jabber.

    Keep taking the tablets, preferably with a double scotch.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Limited understanding? Age?

    Or just upset?

    Is the “health issue” denying you quality time? Or did the numbers not add up, requiering you to actually pay for the treatment?

    Which one is it, Chris?

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Bolivia only has Nat Gas, their neighbor Chile needs Nat Gas but they won't sell it to them so they starve.
    They deserve to be poor because they're stupid.

    Bolivia is the most disgusting place I've ever been to, drunk indians all over La Paz at 9am, filthy dirty people and I would never recommend any ever go there.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    yanqui, it's all studied. As soon as your name appears in the passenger lists, by decree, people behaves like animals in hope for you to never put your feet there ever again. You telling your friends about it, is merely a bonus...

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Awesome news.

    Another Mercosur member holding Mercosur back!

    Pacific Alliance thankfully doesn't have this problem.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    The problem of buying cheap EU technology while being denied the agricultural market?

    We just let the Chinese copycat you and trade with them instead...

    Cheaper, while the chance of getting ripped off is much smaller..

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #8 YB

    Yep, I share your opinion. My memories of La Paz were of altitude sickness, rude immigration officials, a dirty hotel, terrible food, drunken Indians and the streets littered with human excrement. The business people I met were wealthy, very educated, well travelled, exceptionally polite despite my citizenship and white. Less than 2% of the country. Spanish is a second language, if at all understood in area outside the city. Peru is a far better choice for people wanting to know the Inca culture.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    The human excrement was yanqui travelling with his family, chicureo. There is no need to be rude...

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I've only been to two cities in Bolivia, La Paz and Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz is far cleaner and civilized. Spanish is the predominant language and understood by everyone there. I've extensive travelled to many places in Peru. The same ethnic Indians of the Andes are very different as the Peruvians are cleaner and reverently respect the Incan ruins. In La Paz you see graffiti on Incan walls and there is a serious problem of a lack of public bathrooms.

    The lack of European influence has critically harmed Bolivia's chances for ever escaping their poverty stricken culture.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Well Evo, competition is how the world works. What you want is to sell crap and be way over paid for said crap.

    But in free societies people have choice and a competitive market gives people that choice. It forces producers and manufacturers to make better products, or at charge a fairer price for their product.

    If Bolivia doesn't want to raise it's game and make, or produce better stuff, then that's Bolivia's problem.

    There is always someone else willing to sell.

    But feel free to hold Mercosur back, or better yet be a man and go it alone, because lets face it being in Mercosur hasn't actually done Bolivia any favours at all.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #15 LEPRecon

    Evo wants his coastline back first.

    Meanwhile a very few elite families make fortunes in non drug related businesses while large multinational companies shy away from continuing new investments. Small farmers live in exceptional poverty and despair.

    The people I met in Santa Cruz wanted to secede from Bolivia as they are one of the only successful areas in the country with a future.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Have to agree with you guys. Every chicken bus I was on in Bolivia smells like piss.
    They are just to dumb to ever evolve.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Go for it, Evo. Solidarity between the ears is the way......? We have a new brand. First there was Evo-stick. Now there's Evo-prick.

    Way back in the past, even argies learned that moulding a dildo from plastic was cheaper than carving it from wood. And there were less splinters.

    Rights and self-determination for the indigenous are fine. Power? Not a chance. Oh look, Morales qualifies as a prick.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I was watching a BBC show on how the USA/UK etc evolved and then they showed SoAm still using hand plows and donkeys for their farming. I thought they were recreating a different time
    alas it was today
    SoAm is getting left in a different civilization
    Its sad

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    “if there's no free trade, there's no agreement...and this is blackmail”

    Did I miss something?

    I thought they were talking about a “free trade agreement”

    Precisely what “agreement” is being used to blackmail them into “free trade”?

    @8 yankeeboy
    Bolivia has something like 2/3rds of the world known Lithium deposits, they could be the next Saudi Arabia.

    Except the deal they want for extraction means it’s all still in the salt flats, where it is going to stay at this rate.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @5 SUPA TUPA Stevie

    “The streets are beginning to form an opinion.

    No agreement.

    Grande Evo!!”

    LOL... another gem from “We are all Chavez” Stevie!!

    How did that one work out????

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #20 Pugol

    Chile has the other third of the world known Lithium deposits, and we are completely committed to free trade.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    20. Chile should take it the lithium and gas deposits.

    For the life of me I don't know why they don't do it.

    The only people who would say anything are countries nobody listens to anyway.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    For the life of you, are there many things you don't know...

    yanqui, you can't take sand from Sahara without leaving a chem trail...

    We make you a deal. All lithium from Bolivia for all oxygen from... wherever you may have fled to...

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #23 YB

    We have all the lithium we need. We are also friendly to whomever wants to invest and mine here. The last time Chile nationalized a foreign owned company was when Allende was president.

    The Atacama salt flat in northern Chile is home to around 20% of the world's lithium reserves and is widely regarded as the best and cheapest place in the world to produce lithium at the moment.
    The flats are in what is known as “The Lithium Triangle”, an area that straddles Chile, Argentina and Bolivia.

    Chile has an enormous shipping advantage due to our near by ports.

    So take your choice, which country would you choose to invest in mining Lithium? (And yes, we already have Chilean owned companies already involved.)

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    ““Trade must be focused on solidarity and not in competitiveness if we really want to end poverty”, insisted the president of Bolivia”.....

    Well, first of all, Uevo Bostales should know his crappy country isn't even a member of the even crappier trade block.....but if he thinks he should withdraw before even becoming a member, that sounds reasonable...who needs these idiots ?
    Second, if he supports solidarity and not competitiveness in trade, that implies that someone has to be prepared to heavily subsidize their “solidarity”, a.k.a. incompetence and lack of productivity.....why doesn't he ask MADurine, after all, isn't that socialist formula working well in VZ ??
    And 3rd, his opinion doesn't count.....what counts is the fact that Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay have realized that Mercosur is just yoke over their heads, and that it's a lame duck...WTF !!

    @3 Brasshole
    The same way as no-one gives a sh*t about Uevo's opinion, neither does anyone about yours. Go and travel with your boyfriend, Julianoasshole...

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Evo is perhaps not as destructive as the leaders of Venezuela and Argentina, but Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay would be far better off without them and joining in a pact with the EU as well as the Pacific Alliance.

    Some years ago, Peru gave territory to Bolivia to have their own free port. They've not invested a single peso in improving it. They do not have the mentality to invest in infrastructure. Anyone that has seen their roads and airports will confirm.

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Jacky
    What makes you believe your opinion matters more than the President of Bolivia's?

    Personally, I'd love to wipe myself with your opinion, but printing paper is expensive lately and a bit harsh on the edges.
    Not to mention the fact that my arse would end up dirtier than before...

    Jun 11th, 2015 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #28 Brasshole

    Well I would suggest you don't wipe your arse as we're all ready used to your smell.

    By the way, many of us think you should relocate to La Paz as we think you'd fit right in...

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Stevie is a hypocrite like Reekie loving Bolivarian Socialism from afar as it destroys the lives of millions upon millions of people.

    A disgusting human being.

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Chicureo
    I agree.
    Sometimes you think, and with great effort at that.
    Try not getting overwhealmed by logic and you could be well on your way to muster some common sense...

    yanqui
    Your country has destroyed more lives than anybody can count, or even bothers to. Having you calling me disgusting is for me a recognition. Greatest proof that I'm on the right path.
    You are so mierda, but so mierda, that doing the opposite of what you believe, is like going all in in a one horse race.
    With excellent odds.

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 30 yankeeboy

    Breakdowns R Us is sliding deeper into his fixation with everything Marxist and the 'brotherly love' for everybody in SA.

    Pity we know him for what he is: you had it spot on.

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Chrissy!

    Got yourself a free hip operation yet? One for the missus?

    We should introduce laws in SA stating you guys are only welcome as tourists on restricted visas, or as refugees...
    You health issues should be talen care of back home.

    I mean, just like your countries do. Nothing new, nothing drastic...

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Stevie I am calling you disgusting for supporting a way of life that has destroyed millions upon millions of lives while you live in a free market capitalist society.

    So yeah you're a disgusting hypocrite.
    I hope to goodness you've not spawned anything.

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 33 Breakdowns R Us

    I was talking to yankeeboy about you, NOT to you.

    Now stop the lies - remember what I told you about making the next breakdown worse for you unless you do.

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @28 Stevie
    where did I say I thought my opinion counted more than Uevo's ?? I just expressed it, based on the stuff I see and read ... ; First of all, he shouldn't stick his cocaine snorter where he has no right to - Bolivia is not yet a member of Mercosul - and second, regardless of what Uevo thinks , if Brazil Uruguay and Paraguay wish to ignore him, they will.
    Last but not least, where d'you get the idea that printing paper is expensive ? I thought you were well-off...obviously you are not, otherwise such a minor expense would make no difference.
    But you got one thing right : the admittance that “your arse would end up dirtier than before” is proof that it's always dirty.....must be a b*tch to have to choose between printing paper and bog roll.....but you could always crouch over the garden hose...

    Jun 12th, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Jack,

    SUPA TUPA Stevie, is all about 'ideology before people' - he's forgotten that one of the biggest myths and justifications for Socialism, is that it is meant to help the masses...

    Look how well Venzla worked out!

    Stevie was singing the praises of Chavez and Maduro, pridefully, with vigor - then he quietly sloped away, as it became clear that life there was a living Hell !!!

    Jun 13th, 2015 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    36. Toilet paper is in short supply in Venezuela. Who knows what they're using now, Sticks? Leaves?

    37. Yeah he seems to forget the support of the corrupted and vile Bolivarian Socialists regimes.
    The only reason Ecuador is not falling into an abyss is because they use the U$.
    Too bad the rest of the idiots haven't adopted it yet.
    It would solve most of their problems.

    Jun 13th, 2015 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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