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Falkland Islands receives US support on the issue of “self determination”
Falkland Islands' elected lawmakers received assurances in Washington that US neutrality in the sovereign dispute with Argentina does not imply any denial of the Falkland Islanders right to self determination. Read full article
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Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0We demand, we expect, it's all about us...
Hmmmm are you going to get a spanking now gollum from your mistress for not doing more.
But I thought neutrality meant support for Argentina, that's what we are always told. Does that mean that neutrality means just that, neutrality, they don't feel a need to get involved, but support 'self determination'.
MLA are now playing Argentina at their own game, can't be good so near to the election, how will they respond I wonder?
I bet that makes the front page of the Peronist press......
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Certainly, we will never alter our view that a people must ultimately determine their own future and certainly we mean this with regard to the people on the Falklands.' President Ronald Reagan. (Reagan - Thatcher White House Communication 4 Nov 1982).
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not something that Argentina was expecting.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0the thing here is: who the fuck is saying that?
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0these 2 useless “lawmakers” from bennylandia...??
LOL x 1 MILLION.
here is the truth, brainwashed isleters.
“Obama administration not neutral on Falkland Islands
Far from remaining neutral, under Obama’s leadership the U.S. has started backing Argentina’s calls for Falklands talks”
Falkland Islander government:
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We have received assurances that US neutrality on the issue of sovereignty does not imply any support for the Argentine denial of the right to self-determination, or of its continued bad behaviour towards the people of the Falkland Islands”
Argentinean government:
“Today the poverty rate is less than 5 percent, and the rate of indigence is 1.27 percent, which has made Argentina one of the most egalitarian countries”
Who lives in a brainwashed country?
A good moment to highlight the 33rd anniversary of the Liberation of the Falklands, and special thanks to MLAs Rendell & Summers for undertaking a successful week of round table and other meetings in the USA. Also good to see an old Falkland friend, Sir Peter Westmacott, working tirelessly on the Falklands front line too. Thank you.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0ARG: We need to negotiate.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK: Nothing to negotiate.
UN: The right way to move on is with negotiations.
I like UK´s closest ally neutrality.
The Falklanders should have a permanent delegation in DC, they can promote tourism, trade and also lobby. I'm sure there's plenty of room at the British Embassy for an office.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't time thee Falklands government tell the UN Decolonization Committee as they have failed to visit the islands, even once .
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands elected authority are removing the Falklands from the list of areas for decolonization.
If anyone has a problem with this they can go to the ICJ.
Like Venezuela, they will jump up and down and insist that the US is interfering in the internal workings of Argentina. These socio-commies need an enemy to fight to make them look good.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 It is solely up to the islanders to determine their own future.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2012/11/12/ban-ki-moon-and-colonialism-people-should-be-able-to-decide-their-own-future
7 falklandlad (#)
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations on the event of your 33rd anniversary.
Its good to see the FI lawmakers getting out and asserting themselves on the world stage and that they have received a good hearing and support for self determination from members of the US establishment.
But Argentina claims that the whole of America supports them in their sovereign dispute. They must have got it wrong, what a surprise!
8 Islas Malvinas
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“there is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Professor Ian Brownlie
@ 8 Islas Malvinas
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Argentina ready to accept the truth about the history of the region, recognise the Islanders rights to self-determination and negotiate renouncing forever any claim to the territory?
If not, then there really is nothing to be said, is there?
@5 cara de orto podrido
Jun 15th, 2015 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”“Obama administration not neutral on Falkland Islands
Far from remaining neutral, under Obama’s leadership the U.S. has started backing Argentina’s calls for Falklands talks” Source of your quote, please!
Or is this just in your dreams?
@16. No, he's right. But one has to look at the background. Obama hates/hated Britain. Largely because of his terrorist paternal grandfather. But in 2017 he'll be history.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, “... the whole world supports Argentina. ..”
Jun 15th, 2015 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except it would seem, than the most powerful nation on Earth!
Haha!
@18 ilsen
Jun 15th, 2015 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, “... the whole world supports Argentina. ..”
Except it would seem, than the most powerful nation on Earth!
And every other nation on Earth too!
But don't be too hard on the trolls. Remember that in their fantasy world the UN states that the UK has to give over sovereignty to Argentina. It's written into UNGA resolution 2065 in invisible ink that only the truly 'faithful' can see.
Just like there is less than 5% poverty in Argentina. The other 20%+ people living in poverty don't exist and were 'made up' by the British, the Falklanders, the unions, the opposition, the Catholic Church, and anyone else who won't tow the party line.
Argentinians live in a terrible country. A country made terrible by their own greed, corruption and apathy. They have to believe in fairy tales as their reality is is shite.
gordo boludo
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems you are not very bright, are you?
how many times did i explain to you, illiterate fatso, that all you have to do is copy the quote and google it.
too complicated for your tiny little brain, no??
20 paulcedron
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up, you boring, foul-mouthed, repetitive half-wit.
That is all.
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If paulie is representative of Argentweens, then the Falklands are safe for evermore.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 imbecile
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0more boring than you?
impossible
and repetitive?
of course.
the problem, you imbecile x 10000000 is that this 4th class newspaper and you lot are always repeating the same shite.
I see the cretin at No 23 has been let out of his padded cell again. If you were a dog, we'd put you in a sack with some bricks and throw you in the Mar Mierda.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 024
Jun 15th, 2015 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not a surprise you do that with dogs.
you also killed 5 million penguins, no?
and you also shagged most of the sheep of the stinky islets, no?
it seems you, disgusting isleteers, have some kind of perversion with animals.
then they say they are not a genetic aberration...mon dieu.
@25. How are you getting on with your two inch dick and your empty ass with hemorrhoids? Got the steel spike with sandpaper yet? The way to do it is to insert it and then drop on to it. Removes hemorrhoids, fills hole and proves there's nothing between your ears. If the spike comes out to one side, don't worry. Just drag it out and jump on it again.
Jun 15th, 2015 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 cara de orto podrido
Jun 15th, 2015 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another intelligent riposte from you I see. What a nasty little man you are - not fit to be in the company of civilised people.
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Jun 15th, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 cara de orto podrido
Jun 15th, 2015 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems to me that you really are in need of professional help - your imagination is so inventive but at the same totally unreal. We are told that Buenos Aires has more psychiatrists/psychologists per head of population than any other city in the world.
So you are in the right place to seek treatment. Just go away.
Don't hold your breath....
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Special Committee on Decolonization today called on the United States to again expedite a process that would allow the people of Puerto Rico to fully exercise their inalienable right to self-determination and independence, as well as take decisions, in a sovereign manner, to address their economic and social needs.”
I'm not sure the USA is in the business of recognising self determination..
1) USA is not part of the C24
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 02) You post this article and DO NOT say who in the US supports islanders. so, better say nothing!
3) This article MEANS NOTHING, you are showing off.
4) the only fun part of all this is reading the comments.
the whole world supports Argentina,
Jun 15th, 2015 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well-
paulcedron anyway lol.
That's sure put a spanner in the works for the Kretina .
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They removed my comment! I must not be a nabo, or a pelotudo… .or a turnip, or a neep…
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 The Voice
Jun 15th, 2015 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a bit sick to death of that particular sock puppet. It's tedious, even for you. Sorry, but there it is.
@8
Jun 15th, 2015 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ARG: We need to negotiate.”
So when Timerman was offered talks in London a short while ago he didn't turn up -Timerman and Argentina=time wasters.
If Argentina were offered more talks they wouldn't turn up due to the dastardly trick of the UK government of including people who come from the Islands (in keeping with 2065 which states that the interests of the population must be respected).
Wow! Two articles about “the Falklands” back to back in the US section. I guess that the British government that runs this Meropenguin propaganda site are panicking. So, what's going on?
Jun 16th, 2015 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The article does not give any names or positions of those that these two 'legislators' saw in Washington. My guess is that they did not manage to see anybody in the government. But, if they did then they should be named. I think that the American voters should know which of their representatives and officials support a foreign monarchy and theocracy in their efforts to colonize America.
37
Jun 16th, 2015 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0?? Are you nuts?!
er... forget I asked.
37 Hepatia
Jun 16th, 2015 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, you might want to consult your dictionary over the , meaning of 'theocracy'. And 'colonise' if it comes to that. eg 'to transform a community into a colony' - which is what Argentina wants to do to the Falklands. Hope that helps.
38# Troy Tempest
Jun 16th, 2015 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0?? Are you nuts?!
We should be glad that we don't live in her head.
@37:
Jun 16th, 2015 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I think that the American voters should know which of their representatives and officials support a foreign monarchy and theocracy in their efforts to colonize America.”
Ah, but that's not true. They're not supporting a foreign monarchy's colonisation efforts, they're supporting the legitimate rights of an island's population to self-determination.
They're essentially *opposing* a foreign nation's efforts to colonise the Falklands by supporting the right to self-determination.
37-hepatia- Suggest you check US history- you will find USA was founded on the principle of self determination and that a people should not be told what to do by another. it started with a big teaparty in Boston.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0AS for whom our MLAs met- it would have been senators/congressmen who have been here and support us and US State dept officials.
Time will tell - and we have plenty of time - its Argentina that is in a panic.
@37 Hepatia
Jun 16th, 2015 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ I think that the American voters should know which of their representatives and officials support a foreign monarchy and theocracy in their efforts to colonize America.”
I'm sure in 25 years all will be revealed.
I can't imagine any US Pol or high Gov't official would ever publicly support Argentina over the UK.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be political suicide.
Nobody cares about Argentina.
Nobody.
Troy Tempest, Brasileiro, Voice, CabezaDura2 are all sock puppets of an idiot living in the United States.
Jun 16th, 2015 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 voice
Jun 16th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and here I thought all along that Chicureo was “voice”
just goes to show, I guess...
Explaining America's stance on the Falklands
Jun 16th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like Reagan, Obama will do his best to stay out of the situation and remain neutral hoping nothing serious develops. Only when push comes to shove will he break.
The saving grace in this situation is that precedent is on the side of the British. The Americans prevaricated before, and they are doing so again. Now, as then, I expect that they will come to aid the UK if, and only if, it becomes necessary to do so.
As Sir Winston Churchill, an ardent admirer of the United States and himself half-American, put it so well: “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, once they have exhausted all other possibilities.”
The United States Should Recognize British Sovereignty Over the Falkland Islands
Jun 16th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Obama Administration has backed Argentina’s calls for a U.N.-brokered settlement for the Islands and so far has refused to recognize the outcome of the referendum. This policy poses serious risks to U.S. interests and is an insult both to Britain—the U.S.’s closest ally—and to the rights of the Islanders.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/03/the-united-states-should-recognize-british-sovereignty-over-the-falkland-islands
a campaign that it is waging solely to distract its own citizens from the ongoing collapse of its economy. By supporting Argentina’s demand, the U.S. risks alienating Britain and encouraging Argentina to take even more aggressive actions. The question of sovereignty was emphatically settled in 1982. It should not be reopened, and the U.S. should stop suggesting that it can be.
Interesting reading.
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Hepatia on this thread:
Jun 16th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The article does not give any names or positions of those that these two 'legislators' saw in Washington. My guess is that they did not manage to see anybody in the government. But, if they did then they should be named.”
Hepatia on another thread:
“It echoes a lot of what I often hear from the administration about Brazil”
The comment does not give any names or positions of anyone in the “administration”. My guess is that she doesn't know anybody in the government. But, if she does then they should be named.
Curious sock puppets receive free cookies for their curiosity:
Jun 16th, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/16/argentina-s-may-official-inflation-1-or-half-that-claimed-by-private-consultants#comment402196. @36
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment401999: But of course not US official or representative will want to meet with these carpet baggers since they know that within 25 years the UK will be returning the Malvinas. And nobody wants to be seen as being on the wrong side of history.
Jun 18th, 2015 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0But they meet with someone who spends time on this website......
Jun 18th, 2015 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh of course!
@51
Jun 18th, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like 1982, when Argentina was on the wrong side of history?
Hepatia
Jun 18th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you may not be here in 25 years time.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment402149: Yes, the 'The Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom'. What you Brits do not understand is that Margret Thatcher was not a US leader - she was a foreign leader.
Jun 19th, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is only one foreign nation that is accorded any significant level of credibility to lobby the US government in this manner - and that is Israel (which is another problem). I suggest that, in order to improve your position, you rewrite the Bible to make the UK a promised land of prophecy and make the appropriate connections to the religious right extremists. Good luck with that.
What a load of rubbish, just because Obama don't invite Cameron to his private room we done qualify,
Jun 19th, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Israel is a totally different problem to the uk and we are not surrounded by anti Jewish hating Muslims,
besides as long as we are ahead of Argentina , you guys have nothing to brag about
all you do is throw mud to the wind and hope.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment402670: One of the problems in any discussion is that you Brits are not too bright. So, I will spell it out for you. Heritage is not particularly influential and the 'The Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom' has not traction at all - it is composed of people employed in the service of a foreign power. So they can propose any number of un American policies and they will all be ignored. And rightly so.
Jun 20th, 2015 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@58
Jun 20th, 2015 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“One of the problems in any discussion is that you Brits are not too bright. So, I will spell it out for you. Heritage is not particularly influential”
If being bright is not one of our strong points according to you (you haven't won many arguments on these posts, that being a strong indicator itself that your IQ is inferior to the posters that challenge you) , then we do not suffer from the recurring 25 year handover delusional syndrome that you suggest. That in itself indicates that most of your skull contains nothing, as you can never see that what you post is simply farcical by your misunderstanding of basic mathematics.
Self Determination is an unalienable right.
A UN motion by Spain and Argentina to make self determination inapplicable to areas where there is deemed to be a sovereignty dispute, was defeated in 2008-that's seven years ago, and soon before you know it, it'll be 25 years ago.
So even if this is not Obama's tacit approval-it does not matter-self determination is applicable to everyone in the world-no exceptions.
One of the problems in any discussion is that you Brits are not too bright
Jun 20th, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[ the day the Americans choose Argentina over the British,
Then Obama would not be too bright, we don’t have to be bright,
We have nothing to prove to anyone..
Heritage is not particularly influential
Our heritage is very good thank you, and Argentina is ??????????
Go on give this not to bright brit one of your famous examples…
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http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment402034: No, the founding principle of the us is liberty - something that you Brits know nothing of.
Jun 21st, 2015 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatitis, yes we all get it! You hate Margaret Thatcher, you hate the British you hate Israelis. In fact, by the tone of your posts, you are a very hateful person.
Jun 21st, 2015 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The article that you are commenting on concerns the support from the US on self-determination for the Falklands. There can be no doubt this has really upset you, hence the hateful rants. The fact that your rants do not address the issue is irrelevant, any excuse for unloading another bucket of bile.
But appropriateness is not one of your strong points, you are the type that would feel comfortable showing up at a fancy dress party wearing a moustache and a Nazi armband.
@60
Jun 21st, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ No, the founding principle of the us is liberty something that you Brits know nothing of.”
We gave the Falkland Islanders liberty from your facsists on 14th June 1982, so that is cast iron proof we know a lot about it.
Hence 14th June is known as Liberation Day.
The clue's in the name.
Hepatia
Jun 21st, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you lost, try another subject.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment402886: Its difficult to know who you are referring to when you say, “your facsists [sic].” I can assure you that I am not in procession of anybody, be they fascist or otherwise.
Jun 22nd, 2015 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nearly all the British countries have implemented some sort of police state so your definition of liberty and mine are very different. In addition the UK is constituted as a monarchy and theocracy. You seem not to understand that the US was founded by a rebellion against this British so called liberty.
But, to take a more utilitarian view, it does not matter whether what you have instituted in the Malvinas is liberty or not because within the next 25 years the UK will be returning them.
@64
Jun 22nd, 2015 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Its difficult to know who you are referring to when you say, “your facsists [sic].” I can assure you that I am not in procession of anybody, be they fascist or otherwise.”
That's good to hear, therefore you do not support the Fascist views of the Argentines when they ignore the rights of the Islanders-a trait Argentina has inherited from Nazi doctrine. -the fascist reference was to Galteiri's army.
CFK and Argentina have fascist traits such as forcing their people to sing 'The Malvinas Song' (a contradiction in terms as it barely describes the Falklands at all). It is a song that Stalin and Hitler would have been proud of, and I am sure North Korea would admire its lyrics.
The pretence of a left wing government in Argentina is laughable-it's bent is always to fascist principles, (that's where Peron got his ideas from-Mussolini and Hitler).
“In addition the UK is constituted as a monarchy and theocracy.”
You will find that Argentina rules more by decree (i.e like a monarch), yet our Queen does not interfere in politics.
When does CFK ever face questions from anyone?
Our politicians are well quizzed by journalists and other politicians.
It seems to me that our democratic system is a lot more effective than Argentina's.
64@
Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nearly all the British countries have implemented some sort of police state
Name just one police state, and why you think it is one,
just one.
#64 “You seem not to understand that the US was founded by a rebellion against this British so called liberty.”
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you seem not not to understand that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/06/15/falkland-islands-receives-us-support-on-the-issue-of-self-determination#comment403071: So, you think that the thirteen colonies were rebelling in support of British liberty? Is that what they teach you in school? If so, it would go some way towards explaining the incredible sense of entitlement that many of you Brits - mainly the wingnuts - feel towards the US.
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0incredible sense of entitlement that many of you Brits - mainly the wingnuts - feel towards the US
Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What ! NO, Surely Not.
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