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Falklands' war: Thatcher 'very angry' with the BBC with the coverage of UK military plans

Monday, June 22nd 2015 - 05:55 UTC
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Margaret Thatcher accused the BBC of “assisting the enemy” during the Falklands War by broadcasting the moves British troops were likely to make before they actually happened, according to new documents revealed in the UK media. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    Sounds like some pillock didn't know what the initials BBC stood for !

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1982-2/

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    The BBC are the same today, it needs disbanding and starting a fresh with far less government subsidy. It's all about the sensationalism with them and they put lives at risk all the time. The whole organisation is run by elitist toffs from the south east, I would be quite happily rid of them.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    I'm proud that the BBC doesn't produce mindless propaganda for the ruling party of the day, rather that than be force fed nonsense like the Argentines are over the Falklands. She did have a point about reporting the war and giving the enemy insights into plans though, but she could have introduced reporting rules to delay such news - the reporters must have been embedded to have this information.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Let's not forget, who broadcast that 2 Para were heading for Goose Green. 24 hours before the battle! Criminal, bloody criminal!

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    The BBC should have been muzzled for the duration of the war.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Actually it was not so much BBC reporting as stupid little arses in the MOD with minds believing they had balls bigger than their arses who released little titbits of info to reporters in London on the side.

    yes there were reporter son the ships and ashore in the Falklands - but so mobile satnav phones in those days! ALL reports back to their papers/radio offices in UK had to be sent back on the Military System - and thus fully approved by the MOD!

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    At 4 ,

    It was such a bloody foolish negligent thing to announce that the RG's at Goose Green actually thought it was deliberate disinformation.
    Still, it did alert them.
    Nice one BBC. You are a disgrace to the UK public, especially today.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Unfortunately, this may have been right at the beginning of the concept of the peoples' “right to know”. I wonder if the “people” will be so keen to “know” when troops die as a result. How about a reporter aboard HMS Conqueror to broadcast, step by step, as the boat lines up on the Belgrano? An “embedded” presenter and camera crew for the SAS raid on Pebble Island, including the pre-mission briefing. Someone alongside 2 and 3 Para, 42 and 45 Commando, 2nd Scots and 1/7th Gurkhas.

    Incredibly simple contributions toward military success. Surprise and operating at night.

    As a start, I would like to see media prosecuted and imprisoned if any of their actions can be shown to have contributed toward the deaths of ground troops, air crews or naval personnel. And the sentences should be appropriate. Get a serviceman or woman killed and expect a minimum life sentence.

    Some people might want to research who Britain's armed forces belong to and therefore might claim to have a “right to know”. And it isn't Joe Soap down the pub.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I think The Blessed Margaret was correct in her understanding of what was going on with the BBC.

    However, she knew that the British People were very concerned and the nightly TV programmes were helpful to her increase in popularity.

    It was a fine line and the BBC crossed it many times AND they knew what they were doing.

    The present bunch running the BBC have little respect from the public as far as I can see: it's best gone.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    isolda
    “The BBC should have been muzzled for the duration of the war.”

    but my beloved isolda, censoring the press is the worst thing you can do.
    thanks to free press, we know all the atrocities that the british armed forces have done.

    not a surprise you support censorship.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The worse atrocity of all?

    Kicking seven shades of shit out of you of you lot!

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    anyway, i always thought you, 3rd class plebs, were pretty satisfied with the bbc.
    you know, for this:

    “How the BBC whitewashes mass murder and war crimes in Iraq”
    http://stopwar.org.uk/news/how-the-bbc-whitewashes-mass-murder-and-war-crimes-in-iraq

    and this:
    http://stopwar.org.uk/news/how-the-bbc-whitewashes-mass-murder-and-war-crimes-in-iraq

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @10 paulcedron II

    Was your last login banned?

    Actually no one is talking about censoring the press, but the press have an obligation too, and that obligation is not to put the lives of soldiers at risk.

    Imagine what would've happened IF the press let slip that the Allies were invading Normandy on 6 June 1944. The outcome of the war might've been very different.

    The press want access to the military during war fighting, but that is done with the understanding that they won't broadcast anything that might affect a particular operation until AFTER it has taken place.

    I also like the way you talk about press censorship considering how much you actually support censoring any form of media that doesn't agree with your beloved Cristina.

    As for the BBC. It is no longer what it once was. It's time to cut off public funding, privatise it, and make the fat cat executives and lefty journalists actually EARN their living for a change.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @13 re paulcedron 1, 2, 3 or 4!

    This individual makes no sense at all! His defence of Argentina is to make absurd foulmouthed comments directed at other contributors to the threads he chooses to impose himself upon. That's it!

    His tirades of insults are juvenile nonsense!

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    I think the MoD took over a transmitter at Ascensión which broadcast in Spanish during the war. It was so bad that I dont know why the Argentines bothered to jam it

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The Argentine propaganda machine was the best ally of the UK as they eventually completely discredited the junta. The UK Force was described as a “pirate fleet, while Margaret Thatcher was portrayed as a Viking, a vampire and a Nazi Storm Trooper. There were endless stories of Harriers being sent tumbling in dogfights, of ships sunk, of Hermes and Invincible being damaged again and again, of soldiers dramatically repelling raids.” “Even failure was exploited to the full. After South Georgia had been recaptured by the British it was announced that Argentine special forces had retired into the island's interior, from whence they would continue to fight - and this, in one of the cruelest environments on Earth. When the British landed at San Carlos they were said to be surrounded and on the verge of a second Dunkirk.”

    “The Gurkhas were truly feared by the Argentine troops. Writer Gabriel Barcia Marquez quoted witnesses as saying that the Gurkhas: …beheaded Argentine soldiers with their assassins' scimitars and were so bloodthirsty that the English had to handcuff them to stop further killing after the Argentines had surrendered.”

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    16
    so Barcía Marquez, eh?
    what an ignorant chilote you are.

    go back to school chilote

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Some say CFK has invisible shares in the BBC,

    being impartial is not news. so they say..

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @10. Anything wrong with with killing argies? Shame that there wasn't the infrastructure. Could have flown Vulcans in and then bombed BA to destruction.
    @12. At the time, Iraqis deserved to die unless they surrendered.
    What Top Gear “controversies”? I reckon that it shows a lot about argie scum that they objected to the registration plate “H982 FKL” and demonstrated their cowardly resorting to violence. Shall we trawl through every argie registration plate and bomb argieland for every “unacceptable” number?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Argentina#1995_onwards:_A_national_standard
    Sure we can find plenty. Bet you we can justify annihilation. Wanky little argies. Pity Clarkson, Hammond and May didn't have assault rifles on the passenger seats.
    @17. I do so wish Gurkhas were like that. Regrettably, they are subject to British military discipline. On the other hand, sometimes there are days when the Commanding Officer tells them to “do their own thing”. Which day will it be when YOU meet them? In point of fact, when Gurkhas are let loose they behead argies.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #17 Paulcedron

    16
    “...so Barcía Marquez, eh?
    what an ignorant chilote you are.”

    YES, Barcía Marquez!

    IGNORANCE is far beyond comprehension.

    I dearly wish that I was a Chilote and have yet to know anyone that's visited the southern Chilean islands of the Chiloé Archipelago and not fall in love with the warm friendly people with their distinctive folklore, mythology, cuisine and unique architecture. The islands are incredibly beautiful.

    Your repeated RACISM against the indigenous peoples of Latin America can be defined by your obstinately irrationally with hateful intolerance for the Mapuche people. You really should be ashamed of your BIGOTRY.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @20 Chicureo,
    paulcedron is a troll. Pro-Argentine in this incarnation, but still a troll.
    lt wouldn't surprise me if he had another screen-name where he was pro-British.
    *******************************************************************
    One of my friends has travelled extensively through-out South America & she agrees with what you said about the Chiloé lslands.
    l will visit myself, one day.
    l was doing some research & l see that Scientists have traced the origin of the Potato to those lslands.
    Also the cast-off bones of the South-East Asian chicken have been found there and could only have been brought by human hands.
    This points to a Polynesian connection, several hundred years ago.
    Fascinating.
    Peace.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    21 isolda:
    isolda sgut up.
    and stop saying “peace” when everybody knows you are a warmonger.

    chilote:
    again; BARCÍA marquez??
    do you mean GARCÍA MÁRQUEZ, ignorant chilote?
    go back to school

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    and stop saying “peace” when everybody knows you are a warmonger
    [ from the very person who spouts it every day ]

    21@ Isolde
    origin of the Potato ,

    did not sir, Walter Raleigh bring some back with he baccy,
    or do I have it wrong.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Ignorant bigot: Gabriel Barcia Marquez

    Isolde

    The Chilean Araucana chicken that lays blue eggs is very commonly raised on the islands there. There are also potatoes that originate from the beautiful farmlands as well and the people are extremely hospitable.

    Jun 22nd, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @23 Briton,
    l think that is correct.
    The first time farmers in England harvested the potato, never having seen it before, they thought that you ate the leaves.
    Don't know how that turned out as l believe the leaves are quite poisonous.
    l have grown potatoes & sometimes they have a tomato-looking fruit above ground as well as the potato tuber itself.
    The fruit mentioned is highly poisonous(not as poisonous as paulcedron, but still is poison!) lolz!
    l was taught at school, that Sir Walter was quietly enjoying a smoke of the newly introduced tobacco, when his servant threw a bucket of water over him, thinking that he was on fire!
    @24 Chicureo,
    l have eaten Araucanan eggs when in Australia.
    Although they have blue shells, they tasted the same to me of ordinary chicken eggs.
    Dad used to run White Leghorns, originally an ltalian breed of chicken but very common in Australia.
    We also had a few Chinese chickens that had a blue, inedible flesh.
    Wonderfully soft downy feathers.
    Peace.
    @22 ldiot paulcedron,
    Keep quiet niño, the adults are talking.
    Go outside & do something useful, like cutting firewood.
    Move your ass, or you'll get a good thrashing(which you so thoroughly deserve).
    ldiot child.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Most of the bbc bashing was due to the MoD in london being twats rather than reporters on the ground

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    All I am going to say is: We should have had a Mrs. Thatcher here in Argentina.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Isolde

    If you make it to Chiloé, you must try curanto.

    http://eatingchile.blogspot.com/2010/08/curanto-chiloes-ancient-clambake.html

    Here in South America we have literally thousands of different types of potatoes. In the Lima market, it's not unusual to have 80 different varieties offered each day.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    @23, 25 Isolde. the potato is the same family as deadly nightshade and so the haulms and fruits are poisonous a well as the green potatoes exposed to sunlight.
    Sir Walter Raleigh seemed to have made a habit of upsetting his sovereigns. After his introduction of tabacco,King James wrote the first anti smoking treatise “A Counterblaste to Tabacco” and his view of Ralieghs misdemeanour may have influenced the King to have Raleigh executed.
    On a previous occasion when was kneeling, paying homage to Queen Elizabeth and just at the moment committed what used to be called a social solacism and was banished from court for seven years. He was only readmitted after he had made a lot of money for the Queen raiding Spanish treasure ships.
    Quuen Lizzies comment on his readmission “Sir Walter I have forgive the fart”

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    25 lsolde
    threw a bucket of water over him, thinking that he was on fire!

    That would have been funny to watch, at the time...lol

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The potato revolutionized Europe and the Prussian king reportedly ordered his subjects to eat them. One tactical practice of invading armies had been to burn wheat fields, but potato fields obviously could not be. It allowed substantial cheap nutrition for the growing populations... including Ireland.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    mmmm Jacket taters,
    great on bomb fire night..

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @28 Chicureo,
    Maybe next year, thank you for the link.
    @29 redpoll,
    l think all of us at one time or another have embarrassed ourselves with an unplanned fart. lol!
    Poor Sir Walter!
    @30 Briton,
    An early method of giving up smoking!
    Hate the smell of cigarette smoke, but l like the smell of cigar smoke when someone else is smoking them.
    Peace

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    chilote
    “The potato revolutionized Europe and blablabla. It allowed substantial cheap nutrition for the growing populations... including Ireland.”

    taking in account that millions of irish were exterminated in the so called potato famine, your post is being offensive, racist and most of all ignorant.

    surely for an ignorant chilote bootlicker like you, it was just a famine and not another english massive killing.

    read and learn chilote:
    The Graves are Walking: The Great Famine and the Saga of the Irish People. By John Kelly. Henry Holt; 416 pages; $32. Faber and Faber; £16.99

    The Famine Plot: England’s Role in Ireland’s Greatest Tragedy. By Tim Pat Coogan. Palgrave Macmillan; 288 pages; $28 and £17.99

    have you ever in your life read a book?
    i guess not.
    this is your opportunity chilote

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Shut up Cedron,
    Get outside & make yourself useful, you idiot article.
    Stop talking back to the adults, you stupid boy(thanks Dad's Army!).
    And just shut it.
    ha ha ha ha.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Argentucho idiota Paulcedron,

    Considering my “Anglo” education and ancestor bloodline, as well as the stubborn attitude inherited from my partial Catalan and Castilian ancestors, I just want to say that I think you are one of the tiny little worthless hairs that grows next to a person's anus, more commonly known as a pendejo...

    Have a wonderful day Paulcedron playing your computer games and eating junk food in you mother's flat and know that your absolutely worthless existence on earth doesn't matter to anyone. You are just wasting oxygen.

    Back to potatoes...

    There is a Bolivian blue potato in some markets here that has a distinct buttery flavor even stronger than the Yukon variety propagated in the United States. It is outstanding! We also have another which is distinctly yellow with a butternut squash flavor.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    36 chilote
    “Considering my “Anglo” education and ancestor bloodline, ...blablabla”

    why are you soooo ashamed of your mapuche ancestry, chilote?
    sounds very racist against that noble race of subcompacts.
    disgusting racist.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    @36 You hear about the genetist who crossed an Idaho potato with a sponge?
    It tasted horrible but it sure held a lotta gravy!

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @38 redpoll,
    To me, an oyster tastes like a sponge dipped in vinegar!
    Expensive & completely wasted on me.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    isolda
    you don't have good tastes at all, my beloved, beloved isolda

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Thatcher 'very angry' =reaches far beyond the grave,

    And still the argies fret...

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @40 paulcedron,
    Fermé la bouche, fou.

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    isoldita speaking french...love it

    Jun 26th, 2015 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @ 43, simpleton cedron,
    Just one of my 6 languages, niño.
    Have been reading your accusations of monolingual-ism with quiet amusement.
    As l said, you know nothing, peon.

    Jun 26th, 2015 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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