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Scioli, 'head of the nation', but Cristina Fernandez 'the natural leader of the Peronist national movement'

Tuesday, June 23rd 2015 - 06:52 UTC
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Daniel Scioli, Buenos Aires province governor and incumbent Victory Front presidential candidate, “will be the head of the nation” if he wins October elections while president Cristina Fernández will continue as “the natural leader of the Peronist national movement,” Argentine Cabinet Chief Aníbal Fernandez told reporters on Monday. Read full article

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  • Skip

    What a stupid thing to say.

    Why elect a president when he will defer to someone else.

    Sounds like Argentina is becoming an absolute monarchy with a prime minister.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I pity the next encumbant to the presidency, fancy that “ harpy” rabbiting on in your ear all day long.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    If Scioli somehow gets voted in then expect him to have an accident like falling off the balcony or a little too much arsenic in his coffee.
    That 1 armed chump thinks he can control the K thugs.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 2:

    that is called `peronism´: absolute obedience to the leader, nothing cares but the ruling party, etc.

    If Scioli and his former Mao-fan vice president get elected, we will be facing a free fall to hell.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Yes - you heard it first - right here.

    A veritible pooohtan.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Corruption is in the very DNA of Rgs. They don't even realize when they're doing something anyone in a civilized country would consider an abomination.

    I really really really hope another K gets in office.
    really really hope

    BCRA is now pushing money in one end of the economy and sucking it out at 30% on the other.
    They're doomed
    :)

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It really will be FUBAR of epic proportions if this bunch get in again.

    This will be the new national anthem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNPJuJSVmNA

    Oh joy!

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Ah well,
    Queen Cristina, ???

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    #4 Its more like Heil Kirchner. Hitler was almighty god in Nazi Germany.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    If any of you vote for Cristina, you can look in the mirror for being the reason why Argentina's potential was squandered. It's not third party subjectives from anywhere, it's you. Incompetent authoritarian leaders have existed for centuries. However, they don't exist without incompetent followers.

    I love Argentina, but I chose not to be subjected to the burden of those that want to take what they didn't create and refuse to maintain. If you choose to take without producing, eventually there will be nothing left. When that day comes, you'll reap what you've sown.

    Those that pulled your weight will have a chance, but don't be surprised when they refuse to help you.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Peronism, the last anachronistic relict of a derelict political philosophy. Mussolini? Dead. Hitler? Dead. Franco? Dead.
    Cristina.....?

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    What is really nutty is that Rgs lives get worse every year, every decade, every generation and they keep voting in terrible people.
    It gone from bad to worse and nobody cares.
    They can't even keep the lights on under 40F or over 85F.
    What's wrong with these people?
    Are they all retarded?
    Are they drinking poisoned water?
    Mass Delusions?
    Gotta be something

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @12 Eventually they get it if you bang their heads into the ground.
    Proof: Look Reekies fucked off ever since that comment from Kristina about Argentina having 5 % poverty.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    13. I think Reekie is gone because the persona was a utter failure.

    But don't worry another will pop up that will be just as lame.

    Klingon, Serious question, why does the average person in Argentina put up with their lives getting worse every year. I could kind of understand it before the internet and the gov't could lie and say everyplace is a bad as Argentina but people have to know that's not true now. It is pouring now but it has also been very hot. Nobody in my city has lost electricity, Nobody in my city is striking. Nobody in my city _______ put in anything you want that's an every day horrible occurrence in Argentina.
    I just don't get it.
    The people must be so beat down they just don't care anymore.

    Jun 23rd, 2015 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @14 Most people don't care as long as they get their paycheck. They might care about their family and friends but never about the country.
    Also, have you seen our politicians? There isn't much to choose from.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    15. That's quite a narcissistic and apathetic statement. Based solely on this statement Argentina, you and your family deserve to live like the animals in Venezuela.
    If I were you I'd start a course on street fighting.
    Pretty soon you'll be fighting for food and wondering how in a land with such rich farmland can't feed their own people.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @7ChrisR

    That is so funny.

    Is that a young bogbrush on the drums?

    If so he's had practice with the anthem-at least that will go well.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Yankeeboy

    I think the 'boiling frog' analogy comes into play here.

    You know, the scientific experiment that if you put a frog in a pan of water and slowly heat it until boiling?
    The frog is just too damn stupid to know the right time to jump. Or too scared of what might be outside the pan.
    Result? Boiled Frog.

    Conclusion? Argentine attitude to government.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    18. We've talked about that on this board before. It is a good analogy. Except Rgs are the first people to start burning tires and garbage in the streets when their electricity goes out. So they are aware they devolving.
    I keep going back to they have a very dangerous combination of Stupidity, Narcissism and Apathy.
    Nobody can see to tell me another reason they've let their country slide into Frontier Status.

    It will only get worse.

    I really can't wait for the street fighting to start.
    Maybe it takes 2 weeks without electricity and a little snow...

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • willi1

    Fernandez: bootlicker.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @16 And then what would make us deserving of a better life? You always denigrate people who don't agree with you.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Clearly you're not deserving.
    Maybe youll have better luck next time.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Personally, I disparage all rotting roadkillians irrespective of their opinion.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    I think you all have it wrong. I think we see Argentina evolving away from complete and utter waste of human beings, like the creatures that inhabit the EU, US, etc. We have basically blocked all imports from those useless places and guess what??? Life goes on... and pretty much the same as before!!

    No foreign clothing, no foreign electronics, no foreign cheeses, no foreign wine or spirts, no foreign airlines, no foreign cell phones... and guess what? Things still work. For the last 3 years of de facto complete blocking of foreign refuse.

    So Argentina has already proven we need no one else.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    24. Sounds like North Korea. I hear they think its nice there too.

    Bahahahhaa

    Loser.

    You must be at a Int'l Hotel that has its own generators. Most of the rest of the country is out of electricity and its getting worse.
    Or maybe you're not even in Argentina
    maybe

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    Most of the country has no electricity?

    LOL.

    You are comparing North Korea to Argentina? They can't grow any food, we can. Luck of geography.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Er no, your statements sound exactly like someone from North Korea. I was just pointing it out.
    They're happy just like the Rgs are happy.

    I told you before, in a few years communicating with the outside world will become cost prohibitive for the avg Rg.
    Then the gov't will be able to lie all they want, not like its really stopping them now.
    It will be just like in the 70s when you got color tv a couple decades after the rest of the world.
    Who knows what being left out of a couple decades will be like for you now?

    I guess you'll find out soon enough.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    Since I can't stand foreigners, nor any argentine younger than 25 can, it doesn't matter much really.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    And yet you're here every day.
    Funny how that works
    You are obviously a masochist.

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/sinluz

    I hope you can street fight and protect that stash I told you to buy.

    Have you seen how much garrafas are on the black market!?
    You can thank me anytime.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    How are people without power tweeting?

    Hahaha, use your neuron for once!

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    My guess is their phone.
    What century do you live in?

    Silly creature.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @22 Next time answer me you piece of scum.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    I don't own a smart phone.

    I have a 2003 or so flip phone, light blue screen with black letters. Good enough, can't save more than 100 texts.

    The question is how are they powering those energy hogs? Those things are bigger than a brick-phone from the 90s. Horrible units.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    No foreign airlines? Air NZ just starting flying to BsAs!

    And where was this 2003 flip phone made? Same place as the computer Nostril types on? And those new Chinese subway carriages and nuclear reactor?

    Enjoy your autarky Nostrils. It's a figment of your imagination. You buy less because you're broke and to prevent capital flight. The rest of the world moves on and trades and doesn't care about your “sacrifice”.

    (Sent from my Chinese made iPhone while sitting on an Australian made tram)

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    OMG no they're not. What is wrong with you.
    My new S6 edge is smaller than my hand, the battery lasts all day and its super light.
    Gads you're already so far behind the times. I can't imagine what it will be like in a decade or less.
    I am telling you now you'll not be able to communicate with us in the civilized world if things keep up like they are.

    You're going to be like a African bushman wondering what a Coke bottle is....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQIGiXf0JA

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    If the price to pay for freedom is what you two claim it is, so be it.

    A prison cell with air conditioning, humidifier, HD satellite projection tv, the most powerful computer and cell phone with all apps, motion pictures, and video games, a fully stocked bar with rum, scotch, vodka, grappa, tequila, arak, all grape varieties of wine from all major regions, a gym-room, a game of chance room, a private visitor's room to entertain guests, a water-gel density adjustable bed, a daily delivery of gourmet dishes and deserts, a different girl escort every evening to keep you company....

    ... is still a PRISON.

    No food, no shelter, no technlogy, no sex, no job, no vacation, but the freedom to CHOOSE, is still FREEDOM.

    Argentina is free now.

    Following the demands of the EU, USA, Japan, China, Mercosur, etc.. would be PRISON, no matter how many fake goodies they send us to claim a false friendship.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Splain me why so many Rgs are still residing illegally in the USA if its a prison?
    Estimated 250K in Miami alone.
    Splain me

    You're a very stupid creature.

    You're living in a Dictatorship that's making you poorer and dumber and you don't even realize it.

    Ask Venezuela how's it going

    Go try and buy a garrafa next week.

    I hope you like cold food.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    @37

    I am not talking about the United States or inside the United States. I am talking about Argentina following the USA, EU, Japan, etc, model of economic development. It would mean instant slavery and fake prosperity, since they would force us to buy all their superfluous product but NEVER allow Argentina to really develop economically. No advantage to get competition in an already crowded field.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Like Chile?
    Siily theyre right next door, free and prosperous with much less natural resources and people.
    If you were free you could trade your currency.
    Simple as that.
    Open your eyes
    Everything ive told you is coming to pass.
    And its it's going to get worse.

    Jun 24th, 2015 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_troLLimpic_games

    Argentina is too much of a threat to NorthAmoan agriculture industry.
    Argentina is too much of a threat to Brazilian car industry.
    Argentina is too much of a threat to Chilean wine.
    Argentina is too much of a threat to Chinese steel.
    Argentina is too much of a threat to EUian fashion industry.
    Argentina is too much of a threat to Australian mining.

    Argentina's strengths are agricultural output, wine, car industry (which could be higher quality than Brazil's), steel, fashion and design, and mining. So they all have colluded to sabotage any chance of economic progress.

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Uhh ... uhh . . . a country can't go far without the rule of law . . . this is why china is desperately trying to root out corruption at its highest levels . . . this is why russia is destined for failure . . . . . this is the essence of venezwhaleia . . . thus - rotting roadkill is primed for disaster.

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your inept government.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your corrupt society.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your country's failed economic policies.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your country's history of Peronism.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your country's failing education system.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your country's adherence to lying.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your blind hatred and xenophobia.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your weakness to withstand others shaping you.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your narrow horizons.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your limited aspirations.
    Nostrils you are imprisoned by your inability to evolve and change.

    I am free because I am not weigh down by any of that. Freer than you will ever be.

    Oh by the way, mining is only worth 8.5% of our GDP and 2% of our workforce. Even if we lost it all we would just fill the gap with someone else eventually. That's because we can change. We don't remain stuck in the past endlessly repeating myths or mistakes.

    However it is hard to compete against us when we have:
    World's largest reserves of iron, uranium, nickel & thorium.
    World's second largest reserves of copper, bauxite & cobalt.
    World's third largest reserves of lithium.
    World's fourth largest reserves of rare earths.
    And we still have fully explored this continent fully!

    And yet none of that is more important than have a legal and economic system that investors can trust. Sorry but Argentina has rarely ever come close to that.

    Can't blame anyone but yourself.

    Not a conspiracy.

    Just sheer stupidity.

    Long term...
    Ongoing...
    Seemingly endlessly repeating!

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    40. Argentina is not a threat to anyone's commerce. All of those industries you list are so small and insignificant that you could flood anyone of the markets with only Arg goods an no one would notice.
    For example the USA agriculture industry is almost the same size as Argentina's total GDP.
    Keep dreaming retard.

    Jun 25th, 2015 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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