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Strangling Falklands' hydrocarbons industry is 'unacceptable' with dangerous implications for global business
The government of Argentina's campaign to strangle the Falkland Islands hydrocarbons industry is 'unacceptable' and taking action against British and international oil and gas companies has dangerous implications for global business, warned Foreign Office minister Hugo Swire on Monday reacting to an Argentine federal court ordering the seizure of UK and US assets involved in Falklands' operations. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn 1982 the UN acknowledged the UKs de facto sovereignty of the Falklands and passed a binding resolution requiring argentine forces to leave the Falklands. Any recommendations that have been issued since have asked that UK and argentine to resolve their dispute nothing more.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina had a legitimate claim they would have pursued it at the ICJ .
Unfortunately a lot of countries will be tempted to waste the oil firms money through legal action for political reasons the end result will eventually be an own goal for Argentina when the rule of law accepts a dispute over sovereignty does not mean sovereignty by the party who dose not control the area, with a bit of luck we might even see a ICJ ruling the claim illegal. They certainly did not think this one through because the argument might be taken out of Argentine hands by a third party's judicial system, what will they do then accept they have been lied to and taken for chumps.
Although a more likely outcome is some ones sons and daughters will be asked to spill their blood or lose their lives for this distraction of a failing government in a failing state and their blood will be on government of Argentina and the sycophants who currently sit on the C24 committee. Needles to say it will not be the sons and daughters of the politicians, everybody will cheer the brave souls proud patriots until they lose then they will be denounced as rouges if not terrorists who will be charged with war crimes….
They should be taken to the ICJ for enticement to provoke a war
lets see:
Jun 29th, 2015 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Strangling Falklands' hydrocarbons industry is 'unacceptable' with dangerous implications for global business”
dangerous implications for global business?
lol
it seems this useless guy is talking about germany here.
but not. he is talking about the islets...lol
““We have been absolutely clear that Argentine domestic law does not apply in the Falkland Islands nor in the waters that surround them”
so what??
they are delinquents anyway.
now they cannot set foot in any south american country without being prosecuted.
“Minister Swire added that this action, aimed at British and international oil and gas companies...blablabla”
what “international” companies?
lol
it is premier oil (lol x 1 million) and rockhopper (lol x 1 billion).
nobody gives a flying fuck for them
“since it's Argentine 'jurisdiction' ”
Jun 29th, 2015 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They can argue sovereignty is disputed (by them), because sadly that is a fact. Argentina does dispute sovereignty over the Islands.
But their heads seem to be swollen to the size of a hot air balloon if they think they have any jurisdiction over the Islands.
Juristiction means they are controlling the Islands, which clearly they are not.
Their Armed forces are not in control of the Islands.
Their so called seat of government in Tierra del Fuego has no influence in the running of the Islands whatsoever.
The signs and official documentation are in English which is not Argentina's official language.
When aircraft fly to the Falklands, they don't check whether it's OK or not with Tierra Del Fuego to land.Abd stupidly they think that by sticking their fingers in their ears and repeating bullshit, it will stick.
If it weren't for the powerwasher that can cut through the bullshit.
#1 Excellent comment.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0David Cameron also said recently, “Do not underestimate our resolve.”
Arg. lies will just have to be rebutted at every turn, powerwashed!
Perhaps it's time to seize Mr Timermans assets.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 BottyBoypaulie
Jun 29th, 2015 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again!!! Let me extend my heart felt congratulations to you for being 1st with the WRONG answer
When will you understand that you and your 2nd rate, corrupt, lying, cheating country mean nothing, account for nothing and have NO impact on the international stage?
All this bluster? All this “tough” talk of“asset seizing”???
This is all play ground tantrums.
Poor widdle argentina having a strop, is poor widdle argentina wanting to join in the game but the big boys won't let her?
What's next then? Is poor widdle argentina going to try and board a drilling rig? Oh please, PLEASE try that. Then we can teach you the true meaning of the word “Resolve”
Two quotes from 1982.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The only thing that will sabe this government is a war”
“It looks as if the silly buggers mean it”
Elections coming up in Argentina, so that lot will whip up patriotic fervour by staging an incident.
Doesnt matter if they lose a confrontation. Argentina always the victim?
Interesting to see how the UK govt will handle it
@2 Paulie
Jun 29th, 2015 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“what “international” companies?”
That'll be Rockhopper, FOGL, Premier, Noble Energy Inc and Edison International SpA
A little tip for you, UK companies don't use the suffixes Inc or SpA. One's American and the other is an Italian based subsidiary of a French parent company that I believe the main shareholder of which is the French government.
“The islanders have the right to decide their own future”? Fool. And who are the islanders ?. Islanders is exactly the same as saying British. Or not ?. What the fool Swire is saying is: “the British occupying the Islas Malvinas Argentinas has the right to decide their own future”. Besides already they know: the falklanders not exist. If Swire is no “islander”, then, what is he talking about?
Jun 29th, 2015 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it is time for the UK to go to the ICJ to stop this madness, aggressive behavior and harassment from Argentina. The international law will stop it and will give the Islanders the right to decide about their future.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I pray and hope that these in bread son of a rat European immigrant Argentines push one step to far and get a nice ballistic missile where the sun don't shine.
Jun 29th, 2015 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@paul (2)
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0”what “international” companies?
lol
it is premier oil (lol x 1 million) and rockhopper (lol x 1 billion).
nobody gives a flying fuck for them”
Argentina does.
@9 Jose Malvinero
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Islanders is exactly the same as saying British. Or not ?. ”
The Welsh are British. The Welsh are different from the Scottish, who are also British, who are different from the English who are also British.
Welsh people are born in Wales. Scottish people are born in Scotland.
Northern Irish people are born in Northern Ireland. English people are born in England, and Falkland Islanders are born in the Falkland Islands (that's in the Southern Hemisphere, not the UK which is in the northern hemisphere).
All these peoples are British.
Your impression seems to be that all the Falkland islanders are born in the UK and shipped down south to live in the Falkland Islands.
You may note that the Scots last year voted in a referendum to stay part of the United Kingdom-but being British does not stop them being Scottish.
Yes because the Falkland Islanders are born in the Islands NOT in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Bermuda, Tristan da Cunha,St Helena etc.
All those countries are British.
I must say that I find this Swire chap, well, rather impressive.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mmmmm. ...
Pete 13 . the trouble is what you say however truthfull and correct is just totally incomprehensible to the brain powers of Jose and Paulie.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0They can only understand fantasy as that is all they have been taught all their lives.
@15
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I concur.
@2: Paulie? Are you awake? Just who will be prosecuted if they set foot in South America? And why would they? Because they are foreign? Because they are ignoring your idiot government?
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only reason any of this is happening is not because RGland wants the Falkland Islands, they want the oil! Come on, dickhead, we're not all that stupid! All of this is just showboating, garnering votes and taking the populace's mind off the fact that your economy is fast disappearing down the toilet.
Imagine what will happen on the world stage if any Islander is arrested in RGland, or any other S. American country for that matter, just for ignoring a bunch of wifebeating gauchos!
Lob a couple missiles into BA and see how fast they concede.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs are nothing but mouthy cowards that are
Strong with the weak and Weak with the Strong.
Terrible terrible people
More hot air from Buenos Aires.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can't wait to see what actual 'action' they might take.
I think I might double-up my Popcorn order!
This is better than Comedy Central. ...
Haha!
@9 Jose
Jun 30th, 2015 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Islanders is exactly the same as saying British”
We are British, as are the English, Welsh, Scots, Northern Irish, Bermudans, St Heleanans et al.
I know what you're getting at though, you mean we're the same as citizens of the UK but we're not, we're Falkland Islanders. By your logic one could just as easily say an Argentinian is exactly the same as Spaniard.
What “dangerous implications?” The only dangers I see are to the companies concerned. And the chief danger to them is that they will be caught out when the UK returns the Malvinas within the next 25 years.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0All of the intelligent reasonable and sane contributors clearly see the mythical Islas Malvinas to be nothing more than a diversion to draw Argentines attention away from how their corrupt government is stealing as well as squandering untold billions of dollars from the state.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Strangling Falklands' hydrocarbons industry is 'unacceptable' with dangerous implications for global business..”
Jun 30th, 2015 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0It will also have ”dangerous implications' for Argentina. They might act like losers, but they still have a lot to lose.
Do you all think that “ asset seizing ” or the threat of, is going to help Argentina to garner investment for PUTA MUERTE oil and shale gas? If I was a foreign investor ( apart from my shares in these companies ) I would certainly think twice before investing in Argentina. How could you trust a country that does not have “ INTEGRITY ?” It is an internation Pariah. It is such a shame really as I enjoyed life there 44 years ago. In fact I used to say to my ex wife ( from BA ) that if I wasn't born British I would like to have been born Argentinian, I have changed my mind since then.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9:
Jun 30th, 2015 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“What the fool Swire is saying is: “the legitimate inhabitants of the British Falkland Islands right to decide their own future””
Fixed that for you, now it's more factual.
You really should stop lying.
@21:
Serious question - Why do you repeat this lie? We cannot “return” something to you when it does not and has never belonged to you.
Paulie,
Jun 30th, 2015 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly you are with the fairies and have little idea who pass through at least 2 South American countries on a regular basis.
Reply to 21 ok I know Argentine government have made a promise with no intention of being around when it come due ...
Jun 30th, 2015 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0But let's look at some Facts
1) in 1982 when argentine invaded the UN issued its only binding ruling for argentine to withdraw recognising The UK soverinty while also accepting Argentine had made a claim and the matter should be dealt with else where.
2) The only forum recognised internationally with any expertise in Soveringhty claims is the ICJ. A place argentine often frequents but on this their most precious of all causes they avoid like the plague.
3) Argentina tried and failed to have the Falklands right to self determination removed from the UN Charter.
4) in the years from I believe 1946 ( the only internationally recognised and verified date of Argentinas Claim ) till now there was a brief period where corporation took place between both parties till now has Argentina actually demonstratably by one inch of measurable progress in its claim, please do not included several organisations recommendations for dialogue as advancement its politics way of saying yes we support talk shops but we are not invested enough one way or another. Any buinding rulings any real support where it actually meant any real difference other than minor inconvenience of laughing at sheer stupidity.....
21 Hepatia
Jun 30th, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will belong to China within the next twenty years
@9 Jose
Jun 30th, 2015 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you're saying the descendants of the British who live in the Falklands have no right to be there?
Is that the same as the Spanish descendants like yourself and most of the “Argentine” population going back to Spain and leaving your country to its rightful indigenous tribal peoples?
I think so.
Hypocrisy is not a good line to start from when attempting to make claims.
Padre, Jose doesnt live in Argieland, so he is not affected. But you are correct he is a total hypocrite.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2. Let's see indeed.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“dangerous implications for global business?
lol
it seems this useless guy is talking about germany here. but not. he is talking about the islets...lol”
He's talking about a corrupt, criminal, pariah, rogue state being able to interfere with legitimate commercial operations.
“now they cannot set foot in any south american country without being prosecuted.”
Why would a civilised person want to set foot in a shit pit?what “international” companies?
” lol it is premier oil (lol x 1 million) and rockhopper (lol x 1 billion).
nobody gives a flying fuck for them“
Complete list too long for your attention span? Noble Energy and Edison International are proper American companies. Perhaps the US will take a dim view of some pitiful little place trying to attack US companies! You think?
@9. Perhaps it's time for the genocidal spanish that, currently, illegally occupy south east south america to be prosecuted. Punishment to fit the crime.
@18. Don't forget that you have some of those nasty ”atomic submarines“ capable of carrying nuclear weapons. Does Hector complain about you sailing along ”his“ coastline? Come to think of it, Hector can't tell the difference between a Royal Navy fleet submarine and a Royal Navy ballistic missile submarine. Could he tell the difference between an RN and a USN submarine? are you getting us in ”trouble“?
@21. Have you considered the ”dangerous implication“ of the UK voting against any loans to argieland for the next 50 years? How about the ”dangerous implication“ of Britain voting against an EU trade agreement? How about the UK lodging another couple of dozen cases with the WTO? How about a British warship has an ”accident” with a live missile?
Distraction.
Jun 30th, 2015 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rotting roadkill: Pay your debts.
'unacceptable'
Jun 30th, 2015 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then one suggests you do something or soddy offy be quiet and join the monastery,
'unacceptable' = do something.
“”“”“”Argentina's Foreign minister Timerman was quoted on Sunday saying that on Monday 29 June he would formally request that the stock exchange regulators in London and New York to implement the judge's seizure order. “”“”
Jun 30th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How did that go for you then Hectorino?
Well, at least you now don't need the word “Guffaw” explained to you.
@9José Malvinero
Jul 01st, 2015 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0No entiendo lo que está tratando de decir ya que su inglés es fatal. Agradecería una versión en castellano. Gracias.
gordo pedorro
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0y para que querés una versión en castellano si vos ni siquiera sabés hablar tu propio idioma?
eh?
the only language you understand is oink oink, you gordo tirapedos.
I am considering buying shares in the companies which are undertaking exploratory drilling in the waters of the Falkland Islands. Once I am on the registers of shareholders of these companies will I, too, be subject to the meaningless threats of Timermann? What will happen if I travel to Argentina?
Jul 02nd, 2015 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely, the investors are just as “guilty” as the executives of the various companies? If so how will Argentina be able to pursue these shareholders?
Argentina is no. 2 in Copa America.
Jul 04th, 2015 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile won :) !
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