MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Mother and aunt at the launching of Maximo Kirchner's campaign for Congress
President Cristina Fernandez underlined the achievements of her government which, she said, have set the foundations of 'a bright future ahead for Argentina', and openly sponsored the electoral aspirations of Kirchner family members, during a political rally held in Santa Cruz province, from where the powerful presidential couple that has dominated Argentine politics for the last twelve years emerged in 2002/03. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina to be ruled by Maximo?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo to be ruled by the Empress Dowager
:-D
Does Maximo's campaign tell how his late father made off with a million dollars from the Santa Cruz treasury? How else did the Kirchners get the money for their political aspirations? How many more Kirchners want to rule the country? Why isn't 'La Campora“ correctly described as a terrorist organisation? What are these successful policies? Racking up massive debts and refusing to pay them back? Overseeing incredible increases in inflation? Destabilising the 'currency'? Maintaining the growth of the 'villas miserias'? Continuing the war against the agricultural sector? Putting parts made in another country together is 'industry'? Selling the country to anyone who wants a bit? Running to the UN every 5 minutes in order to sound even more ridiculous? Did anyone notice that, during the period that argieland was allowed to sit in the Security Council temporarily, it did nothing? I heard that it was because every time an argie went to speak, everyone else shouted ”Shut up, thicko”.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bwahaha ... hahaha ... hahaha ... hahaha ... hahaha ... hahaha ...
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's all pure wank ... Can anyone imagine the “fatcat” in serious politics, not that there is a lot of that in Argentina...
The truly sad aspect of this is that he will probably get in ... :( on his mum's skirt ...
I am sure he would rather be at home stuffing his face, playing games, smoking weed and doing the odd line; his usual life. But it is all about keeping them out of jail. They need to be in power to do that in Argentina.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where id the u$2mm in cash come from to buy his compound?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus I thought paying in u$ was illegal?
Filthy K scum.
Hopefully the dumb voting fodder of Argentina will vote him in and keep the country on its knees for another decade or two. Will miss the ridicule, embarrassment, poverty and corruption they bring to that country if he doesn't get in. hahaha
Jul 25th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They do look quite amphibian don't they. I expect that his mother lured him out from under his rock with a charcuterie platter long enough to measured for that dreadful suit.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's always more satisfying when you enemy is ugly and lacks taste.
“Mother and aunt at the launching of Maximo Kirchner's campaign for Congress”
Jul 25th, 2015 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Campaign for Congress ?? more like Whorehouse Convention.
What an incredible amount of filth is spread out by a few posters in this thread.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought you would have, from outside, an objective view of the current election process in Argentina.
Instead, Elaine keeps repeating the tired mantra of “they need to get elected to keep out of jail,” not realizing that Clarín kept that cliché going to the intention of CFK--only to be ridiculed when the president did not register candidacy--to anything.
Conqueror entertain us with a delirious dream about a La Cámpora declared a “terrorist” organization.
What a bunch of nonsense.
You guys should look up to candidate Mauricio Macri, who has finally realized--a bit late--how dear are to the electors the recuperation of Aerolíneas Argentinas, YPF and the pensions, as well as the Universal Child Allowance.
Hey, “MaKri” as people are calling him now, is even saying the country will need to conduct “hard” negotiations with the vultures (after saying for a long time he would do what Judge Thomas Griesa ordered).
Just relax, people, and enjoy the show.
@9
Jul 25th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't have an 'outside' view, like you. I spend a lot of time in Argentina. You should try it and maybe you would not worship CFK quite so much.
What do you think about Alicia Kirchner stealing the money meant to pay for food for the hungry? Isn't that filthy?
When will “Flor-polish” Kirchner be running for Office?
Jul 25th, 2015 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Qualifications: “ I lived in New York City”
@10 Elaine
Jul 25th, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't waste your time with Reekie....he is not worth it. He is like several other posters who, when challenged, simply don't come back, or if they do, it's with a bit more bs.
Old Reekie doesn't give a toss what happens in Argetina because he does not live there. I hope the Argentine electorate vote the Kirchners back in and then sit back and watch their country go back steadily to the stone age. You reap what you sow.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They need to take a leaf out of Maggies book and get rid of La Campora and the Unions.
Maximo for President.
Jul 25th, 2015 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There I said it. It had to be done.
I love what the Kirchners have done to Argentina over the past decade and believe that only when another Kirchner steps up to the plate that Argentina can continue along its current path without deviation.
Most of South America (including the Falkland Islands) also hope for this, so that Argentina can take its rightful place in the world.
#10 ElaineB
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't have an 'outside' view, like you. I spend a lot of time in Argentina. You should try it and maybe you would not worship CFK quite so much.”
I am thoroughly impressed by you, unlike I, “spending a lot of time in Argentina.”
Will tell you something. Here in Alberta, Canada, I move a bit around and do get some direct observations. However, to get a real idea of what's going on, I need to rely on sources such as newspapers, radio, online information and to a lesser extent, TV. I, like most other people, don't get a direct view of most things but learn about them through media.
Today, thanks to Internet, I am able to consult multiple sources to learn about the situation in my home country, minus direct observation.
Then, I read about the latest poll in Buenos Aires province, where 41 per cent of vote intentions go to the Kirchnerist Scioli-Zannini formula. That tells me I am in sync with a number of my country people--as opposed to you and others in this board who just profess blind hate for anything remotely smelling popular, or, as you would say, “populist.”
”The Scioli-Zannini ticket...41.7 percent of the votes in the province of Buenos Aires...the Macri-Michetti option getting 24 percent (and) the Renewal Front (FR) of Sergio Massa with 16.8 percent...”
Well...all is not lost after all. You may be in sync with some 40 per cent of the province of Bs. As.
Not bad.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/194578/sciolizannini-grab-commanding-lead-in-new-poll
Enrique,
Jul 26th, 2015 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It depends what you read, written by whom,and whether it suits you to believe it because it appeals to you.
Direct observation would verify whether your belief in what you read, is warranted, or whether it is contradicted.
From afar, and from what I experienced living in Alberta 30 years ago, I would have thought that the NDP party would never get elected
The NDP runs contrary to everything Alberta was known for, and I am sure that there were enough polls predicting another PC win, many business publications and “think tanks” prophesing gloom and disaster if there were an NDP victory, and many stories of citizens groups dismayed by the results.
I'm sure you would have no problem finding 'analysts' blaming oil revenue downturns on the NDP, and you might wish to believe that, if you were aligned with the Conservatives.
However, the Albertans at my dinner table tonight, tell me quite a different story.
Many are pleased that the PC's are out. Many are happy the MP's and Ministers are being changed.
Others are eased to see the NDP relationship with teachers and school boards, is better than under the PC's - others want wait and see what the NDP can do, given the chance.
I was very surprised to hear that.
An example for you.
I feel rather sorry for Enrique. He calls Argentina his home country and longs for it to be a place he can return to. Most people in later life want to return to their roots. He reads about the country online - the majority of his sources controlled by the government propaganda machine -, so clearly has little contact with anyone there. He can't return because he would be a stranger in his own country and his dream would be shattered.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique, my advice to you is to never return but to keep embroidering your fantasy. Argentina has some wonderful elements and could be a great country but it won't happen in your lifetime. I have great friends there and we have had some wonderful times together but I despair for what they are going through under such a corrupt and vile government. Most of them would love to be in your position, loving their country from afar whilst living a life in a safe and developed country.
17 ElaineB
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Most of them would love to be in your position, loving their country from afar whilst living a life in a safe and developed country.”
Precisely what my Peruvian friends living in Canada, said to us very recently.
They would be financially well off in either country, but prefer to be here.
@Enrique Massot , Care to tell us why you choose to live in a great country like Canada part of The British Commonwealth?? there again why waste your time we all know why.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 It is a common syndrome and perfectly understandable. There is a natural affection for our country of birth and particularly as a person gets old they feel a pull to go back to their roots. (Though in Enrique's case, the pull is only to the internet to cherry pick favourable articles to fit his fantasy).
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enrique may feel like an Argentine in Canada but if he ever returned he would feel like a Canadian in Argentina. After the initial flush of affection he would be yearning for the stability of Canada. Life in Argentina is hard. He has absolutely no idea how much it has deteriorated in the recent years as the false economy created by the corrupt government unravels.
@9. Tell you what, Reekie, when was the last time you were in argieland? Not a stopover. I'm glad you're entertained. I'm not entertained by pictures and videos of cowardly individuals swathed in arab-style scarves to hide their identities attacking legitimate businesses. ISIL, Al Qaeda, Palestinians, muslims, La Campora, what's the difference? Not one with enough bottle to show who they are. I think they should all be shot. We are indeed enjoying the show. Imagine all of us sitting on a pier watching argieland drowning. Making “helpful” suggestions. Like ”The shore's that way (pointing)“. Then, under breath, ”after 2,000 miles“.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's always good to consult polls. Of course, you're not in a position to determine what part of the 41.7 per cent were drawn from the uneducated who have already been bought on the strength of a basket of food. But not so long ago, the polls for the UK general election had the Conservatives and Labour ”neck and neck“. And then the Conservatives managed an outright majority.
You should pay attention to Elaine and Troy. There's something wrong in your head. Try the real world. Argieland is soon going to die if it can't get to grips with the real world. Kirchner trumpets here ”successes”. Massive debts. 40% inflation. Failing industry. Failing currency. Export taxes. No access to international money markets. Sniggers around the world. These are successes?
“ Santa Cruz governor candidate. The family display recalled that Santa Cruz is the Kirchner's political bastion”
Jul 26th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo still needs mum to wipe his butt.
And return Santa Cruz to the Falkland Islands while you are at it.
Everyone in Argentina could be dying of famine and you will still have Reekie the super fucktard hammering away at the keyboard telling everyone how great La Campora and the K's are.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reeeeeekie Lite is failing miserably at trying to excuse the inexcusable(the behavior of the rotting roadkillians). I wish all in rotting roadkill many K's and much perronism.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, cut him a little slack, he has NO IDEA. If he wants to feel important let him come here and weave his fantasy because that is what it is.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HEY you pathetic subhuman Anglos:
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember your fake indignation over the AR pilots??
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/on-duty-air-traffic-controller-found-passed-out-124590504067.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
“An on-duty air traffic controller at Springdale Municipal Airport in Arkansas was found passed out, drunk, and shirtless. He was later arrested.
According to reports, Philip Maschek was at his desk on Thursday when a pilot waiting on the tarmac for take off could not get a response from the tower, according to airport official Wyman Morgan.”
So Anglos don't put the safety of just one aircraft at risk, they put the safety of MUTLIPLE aircraft at risk.
And as to not depart from the mold, are a bunch of pathetic hypocrites for barking all their insults at Argies and AR a few weeks ago.
EVERYTIME this happens: the anglos have fun of the deaths and supposed “unprofessionalism” or values of Argies, within a few days or weeks the same thing happens in their shitty shitholes: a train full of passengers crashes, a bridge collapses, some flooding due to poor water control, mass shooting... or this.
You are a bunch of drunken, lousy, uneducated, oily-pizza faced LOSERS.
@ 26. Ooops! Definitely struck a nerve on ole trolly. lol.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Don't you worry, Maxi. Auntie and Mommy will pay for you to have somewhere to sit down and praise Mommy and Auntie. We've taught you how to lie, haven't we? Not difficult as you even tried to lie to us. But we're forgiving. Did we obstruct you as your youth/terrorist organisation physically attacked legitimate businesses we didn't like? Did we tell you you couldn't assault foreign cruise ships and passengers because it would be a breach of international law? Of course not. Mommy will tell judges you can't be prosecuted. In fact, Mommy will tell judges they can't even mention your name or your organisation. Do what you like. Mommy has to pretend. You do what you like. Practice being a corrupt, criminal terrorist. Try not to kill more people than the Brazilians. Might make Mommy look bad. Then you'll have to steal your own money from the fools”.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Jul 26th, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, hit a nerve. Anglos hit a nerve on me: dumb people hit a nerve. Hypocrites hit a nerve. Pecksniffians hit a nerve. So of course Anglos qualifying for all three hit a deep nerve. It was all of you using extremely derogatory remarks in a BLANKET and indiscriminate fashion towards all argies in the article of the AR pilots. And yet look now... drunken Anglo tower controller!
Where is all your outrage now!
Because you have no morals.
No values.
No honesty.
No self-reflection.
No pangs-of-conscience.
No honor.
No self-introspection.
No sense of justice.
As I always say:
Anglos will be anglos.
@29 Still devoting your time to events outside your dream of isolation? I think your dream is not true at all. You don't want isolation but long to be part of something better. To assuage your jealousy and longing you try to convince yourself that life is just as bad in the world you can never be a part of. It isn't. Nothing you post changes that.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Nostril, you must feel sorry for him. No intellect..
Jul 26th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 031 ElaineB
Jul 26th, 2015 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Note that, often Nostrils cannot anything to related to the article to object to.
He must provide his own provocations, bones of contention, or “failings” of the “Anglos” to object to.
In this case, he combed the Internet to find a 'transgressor' in the form of an Air Controller - a contrived and unrelated, source of indignation.
Then, the rant starts....
Best ignored.
Anglos:
Jul 26th, 2015 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If only,
unless one is indigenous, then All are Anglos,
and this included argies,
@33 We have had this debate with TTT. He claims he isn't Anglo or indigenous. I assume he must be Vulcan.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 He is a very angry young man. He gets caught up in conspiracies online that play to his delusions and make him feel important. At least if he is posting here he isn't annoying other people.
@15 Reekie
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Then, I read about the latest poll in Buenos Aires province, where 41 per cent of vote intentions go to the Kirchnerist Scioli-Zannini formula. That tells me I am in sync with a number of my country people-”
Whether the figures you quote are reliable or not is not really the issue here, but if they are correct, then that is bad sign for Argentina. And, if you are in sync with that idiotic majority, well then, you and they deserve all the crap you get.
I can see the history books now.... the fall of civilisation began one afternoon in Springdale, Arkansas.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 ElaineB
Jul 26th, 2015 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT has said he is NOT:
Indigenous,
European,
Muslim
North American
British
Welsh - Argy
and he hates Asians and Blacks
as far as ethnicities are concerned, I think that just leaves,
Inuit
or Jewish
He mentioned at one time, when he was boasting about languages, that his brother was fluent in Hebrew.
I'm leaning away from the Inuit alternative.
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/11794620_10153509564242302_1929659278691172336_o.jpg
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reekie and the other Kidiots.
Splain me the pic...
Splain me.
I dont know why anyone bothers to reply to Troll.limp dick.games unless its to provoke a reply and get yet more comic relief on this board.
Jul 26th, 2015 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's rather disappointing to see that posters here prefer to resort to such low-level discussion as opposed to advancing any sort of argument.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have an ElaineB who argues to know first hand what's going on in Argentina because she often goes there to visit friends, and claims I surely could not know what she “knows.”
Tell you what, “Elaine:” Assuming you do travel to Argentina, this does not guarantee your objectivity, especially when you use terms such as “corrupt” and “vile”when referring to the Argentine government.
You have chosen your camp, and so have I.
So I won't be losing my time discussing my qualifications but will just post my opinion about MP stories as it should be.
You will have the choice to counter my arguments or to go back to post insults or to sing your old song “reekie does not know because he lives sooooo far away!”
As I said: your choice.
@40 I didn't say I go there to visit friends. My work takes me to Argentina and I have made friends there. Since you seem to focus on my posts I will respond.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are very childish with your 'camps'. 'You are with us or against us' is very much the mindset of the K's and part of the huge problem in Argentina. That nationalist trait prevents the people from criticising and holding to account their government. People should question their government and their decision making in a real democracy. The government should be more afraid of the people than the other way around. Sadly, they get it so wrong in Argentina which is why the K's have been able to steal so much from the Argentine people and run their corrupt organisation.
You are blinded by a love for your country of birth. You need to be more objective. I arrived there open-minded and during the course of my work formed a realistic opinion. I don't hate Argentina or Argentines, far from it, but I will express my opinion about the Mafia-like regime that is running the country because many Argentines fear doing so.
Elaine,
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said about camps.
Stevie does the same thing, “ I won't listen...” - not exactly open minded.
I wonder why Enrique puts quotation marks around your name?
@42 Never noticed the quotations. I do seem to annoy him but I am destroying his fantasy so I can understand it.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@43. “Reekie” is a “journalist”. Journalists live somewhere else. If I recall correctly, he's also a “freelance” journalist. Meaning that he writes whatever will pay him most. I'm sure that, with Canada openly supporting the UK and the Falkland Islands, argieland would want a “suitable” journalist in place.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@44 Some journalists are impartial, thankfully, but you are right, a lot will write what they are told to or adhere to the editorial stance.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure Enrique makes any money here. He hasn't managed to change the opinion of one of us who know the truth of the situation in Argentina. Nor has he given any credibility to his opinions other than they are his own, formed by garnering information from the Kirchner dominated media, from afar. (Yes, Enrique, you don't like me pointing this out but it is significant so I will continue to do so).
I don't know if he writes pro-Kirchner articles in Canada but I very much doubt they have any impact. If he is a serious journalist he would go to Argentina and investigate first-hand.
45. Serious journalists in Argentina have an unfortunate habit of turning up dead.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46 That is a consideration. :)
Jul 27th, 2015 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 YB
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Splain me the pic...
Splain me.”
Sure..... they are well and truly 'fooked'....
Yeah not one of the Kidiots on this board came up with anything decent. They can't deal with facts.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only vague gov't propaganda that quickly shown to be false in the light of day.
Soy is YTD 12% below last year.
If it stays the same or the trend continues both Brazil and Argentina can not produce it profitably next year.
The anticipation make me giddy.
rotting roadkillians: Excusing the inexcusable in perpetuity.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most posters apparently want to sidetrack the conversation in light of the latest news--others prefer to shoot the messenger.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But let's come back to the story for a minute.
Fact is, Máximo Kirchner is proposing his candidacy to Congress and time will tell what, if elected, his political skills are.
the meantime, the powerful Clarín Group has spent significant amounts of ammunition on Máximo--going as far as to give full credit to a story published by Brazil's conservative Veja magazine alleging he hid money offshore.
Máximo, as per a story re-published by MercoPress on March 31, co-owned “secret bank accounts, stashed with millions of dollars, in the United States and in the Cayman Islands.”
The story was joyfully commented by celebrity MP posters such as ChrisR, Captain Poppy, ElaineB, Ilsen, Chronic, Klingon and of course the ineffable Yankeeboy, as a pertinent example of Kirchner corruption.
However, the allegations could never be confirmed and shortly after the story joined others in Clarín's infamous Hall of Shame (said posters never backtracked on their hasty comments).
A barn full of broken dreams.
Where did Fat Max get the u$ 2mm he used to buy his compound?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably the Mexican drug cartels just like mama.
52 YB
Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0$2m is just one day of 'losses' at La Campora Airlines...
Where else would he get it? From the empty hotel rooms. I wonder if Enrique will ever get a pardon and return to see the real Argentina?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW it was U$2mm cash too
Jul 28th, 2015 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I imagine much like the suitcases full of U$ she took from the Sinaloa cartel to win her last elections.
Filthy K scumbags need to be in jail.
Enrique,
Jul 28th, 2015 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it correct that prisoners in Argentina get paid?
Is it correct that this pay is almost twice as much as that recieved by pensioners (who don't get free food)?
https://www.facebook.com/AntikTotal/photos/a.313717002061170.57584.313680435398160/681868728579327/?type=1
Just curious...
51. Do numbered accounts have owners? Isn't that the whole point? Are you really that dumb?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did someone with no job get U$2MM in Cash to buy his compound?
I hope there's enough piano wire in BA when the hyperinflation starts.
@51 Reekie
Jul 28th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fact is, Máximo Kirchner is proposing his candidacy to Congress and time will tell what, if elected, his political skills are.”
So, despite the fat boy's (known) history - nothing to be proud of - you are naive to the point of still giving him credit....that's exactly the type of voter the K's love....not too well informed and very gullible.
51 Enrique
Jul 28th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fact is, Máximo Kirchner is proposing his candidacy to Congress and time will tell what, if elected, his political skills are”
Fact is, electing an inexperienced, untested, candidate to run a country is ridiculous.
To elect an inexperienced candidate with dubious principles and affiliations, and who runs a grossly overstaffed, outrageously unprofitable Nationised airline, is insanity
Insanity is synonymous with Argentina. If Enrique wasn't so old he could remember the days before he was exiled for his crimes.
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