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Argentina's incumbent ticket leads comfortably ahead of August primaries
Argentina's Victory Front presidential ticket of Daniel Scioli and Carlos Zannini is set to win the coming August PASO primary elections by almost 12 points over nearest challenger Mauricio Macri, a new poll published two weeks before the vote has predicted. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt is a big pity that Macri is falling behing. /(ㄒoㄒ)/~~
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0We can give up on argieland. Argies must like inflation and falling living standards, poverty, power cuts, gas shortages.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should we stand back for a couple of years? Say nothing and just laugh quietly?
Macri doesn't want to win this; smart move by him. Scioli will be the new de la Rua. Better keep that chopper ready.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You'd have to be a moron to want to run Argentina after the Ks destroyed it. Let the next person try to deal with the hyperinflation and the civil unrest.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine electors haven't been fooled by attacks of powerful concentrated Argentina media, by tonnes of money invested by Paul Singer and its acolytes, and by the sordid affair Nisman.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have recognized where their interests lie and want another government working for social justice and economic independence.
A desperate opposition that has showed its true colours by changing discourse just weeks before the preliminary election has failed to provide rallying ideas to Argentines.
Poetic justice at its best.
See what I mean.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reekie Retard.
@5 Enrique the dreamer…….
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's a conspiracy believer, linking people, places, act where none exist.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reekie is a failure in life, you can tell by his posts. He's crazy and nobody wants to talk with him in real life. Reminds me of Voice, Think, Vestige and the rest of the Peronista losers on here.
Reeekie:
Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go home to rotting roadkill.
rotting roadkill:
I wish you many K's and much perronism!
Lets all hope that Argentina gets what it deserves and what the majoity of the population wants. Kircherism ( whatever that means, no-one can say what it means or just does not understand ) good luck to them, I hope they have a good life. Reap what you sow.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5. a corrupt government killed a corrupt prosecutor. Will defending cfk give value to your peso when Brazil enters hyperinflation?
Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have fascist speech. Igonring the reality and fueling fears.
“The World against Argentina”, that is basically a mix of the IMF, the Empire, US, the UK, the jews, the freemasons conspiracies against Argentina and its free loving Government....
Argentina is in a big crisis lead by a fascist populism...next years will be extremenly hard for common people...but you will be in Canada enjoying the freedom and safety of the British Crown.
When CFK goes, Argentina will go back to sleep and forget the British Falklands,
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0only her deluded ambitions keep it alive.
I am not sorry for a bunch of foreigners posing as experts on Argentine politics who are now in total disarray, unable to spit anything else than bitterness and disappointment--disguised as smugness.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fact is, the Kirchners have made irreversible social and economical changes that will allow the country to finish breaking the chains that have kept it in steady decline up to 2003.
Those chains were held by a putrid ring of nationals in unholy alliance with large foreign interests, all united against the country helped by an army ready to enter the fray as soon as the population showed signs of rebellion.
Now, Argentina stands before the world as an example of how defiance of an unfair world order is not only possible--is the only way out of submission.
@3 Macri is in a very tough spot. Since he cannot be reelected again on the City he had no choice but to go for the Presidency. But if he wins his party will implode with the country and if he loses he will leave his party to Rodriguez Larreta and stay out of the political scene for at least two years, which could be fatal for his political career. His party has also failed to make a dent outside the City of Buenos Aires, so his party will remain very weak if he loses, and if PRO ever leaves the City it is doomed.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Enrique
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“irreversible” all right... :-(
Reekie: I am not sorry for a bunch of foreigners posing as experts on Argentine politics who are now in total disarray, unable to spit anything else than bitterness and disappointment--disguised as smugness.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your'e the foreigner, when did you last set foot here fish lips!
Reekie: Fact is, the Kirchners have made irreversible social and economical changes that will allow the country to finish breaking the chains that have kept it in steady decline up to 2003. http://www.infobae.com/2015/07/27/1744441-la-actividad-industrial-volvio-caer-junio-y-acumula-23-meses-recesion-consecutiva
@changes stay intact as long as Maduro's regime does. We see today how China is doing.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the stupid Marxists around the world thought their lifeboat was going to be China.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now its turned into an anchor.
Makes me happy.
Enrique is a foreigner posting about Argentina. He has absolutely no idea about life there.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your article is based on government sources and a “friendly” market research company. The odds are that the figures are not reliable. On top of that, having been in the research business myself, telephone surveys are very unreliable. Please, when reporting onArgentina, back up your reports with info from various sources.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happen to the original actor portraying Reeekie?
Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The current “Reeekie” is even less interesting than the original.
Reeeeeekie go home!
21 Chronic
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can vouch for Enrique.
He was born in Argentina and lived there as a young adult at least.
He now lives in Alberta Canada, west of Calgary.
He is in his sixties or seventies, and he may have lived here for decades.
I suspect he is sincere about his feelings that the K's are doing a good job.
Mind you, he has recently said that he is satisfied he can see and understand the truth of events in Argentina, by the wealth of material available to him on the 'net.
He also denied that it was necessary to visit there to know what is going on.
ElaineB is probably correct, he's romanticising about his homeland when he writes his posts.
Perhaps it's best to cut him some slack or ignore him - he is not a Troll like Stevie and Dany, or the others.
22. Reekie is just as bad as Stevie Dany Think Paul Voice...a true believer is always dangerous.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's so mentally unstable he'll probably have a mental break down when hyperinflation starts.
Enrique is lost in a fantasy about his homeland in his old age. It is not unusual for people to long to go back to their roots in old age. The question is, why doesn't he go? It is easy enough to go there from Canada.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is happy to have joined a 'camp' and that is sadly not Argentines living in Argentina. Weird that.
So Corruptina Kirchner has a positive rating of 52 per cent. The rest of Latin America shakes its head in horror and disbelief. You have to say the Argentine people deserve this ghastly, grotesque, gargoyle-faced rabble-rouser who is bequeathing a failed, corrupt, bankrupt country to her successor. Her land of delusion, illusion and dementia is going to have a hell of a rude awakening.
Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can feel your pain people, but believe me. It's better to face reality, admit defeat and start on a clean slate than stubbornly continue on a path you, I and everybody else knows leads nowhere.
Jul 28th, 2015 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Take a lesson from Mauricio Macri.
He correctly detected the Argentine electors care about YPF, Aerolíneas and the pensions being administered by the state and he now supports that. He also understood that people do appreciate the Universal Child Allowance and he said that is a right and he will not touch it if elected president.
Hey, Macri has even talked about conducting “hard” negotiations with Paul Singer and his bunch of vulture friends.
Now, whether or not the electors believe Macri's 11th hour change is sincere is another matter.
But his abrupt turn around tells me I was right in heartily supporting all those initiatives--and others--of the Kirchners' governments. Why? Because they have become the property of the Argentines and they want to protect them.
Most posters here have repeatedly dismissed any action by the Kirchners, labelling them “populist.”
That tells me I am in sync with a good chunk of Argentines. Not to feel demoralized, posters such as yankeeboy, ChrisR, ElaineB etc. can still feel in sync with a--smaller--portion of electors.
I say don't give up. A miracle may still happen!
EM
Jul 28th, 2015 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't sound like he necessarily agrees with them, but he knows he'll never get elected if he takes things away immediately- austerity is a tough pill to swallow, esp. if one “camp” is telling what you want to hear - that they are unnecessary.
#28 TT
Jul 28th, 2015 - 05:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if I would disagree with your point, I do respect you are showing an argument.
In my view, the crux of the matter is whether or not the electors see the Kirchners' initiatives as positive.
Macri may want to deceive the electors and come up with his true agenda once elected. Unfortunately for him, this is exactly what Carlos Menem did in the 1990s, and the memories are still alive.
Macri wants to do what's good for them - he'll just never get elected that way.
Jul 28th, 2015 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@29 Are you devoted to Argentina or CFK?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina's Victory Front presidential ticket of Daniel Scioli and Carlos Zannini is set to win the coming August PASO primary elections by almost 12 points over nearest challenger Mauricio Macri,”
Jul 28th, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this 4th class site...mon dieu...
the key question here is who-the-fuck did the poll.
and it is... ceop.
that means roberto bacman, another minion of the ultra k.
and it was published by...pagina/12, the ultra k bible.
so, the best thing this 4th class site can do when they write the headline, is to inform properly.
not a surprise the bennys dont know a shite about argentina when their main source of information is this shitty, 4th class site.
@32 “ this shitty, 4th class site.”
Jul 28th, 2015 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You spend so much time here you must feel at home in the shit.
Again, with the coming financial collapse and hyperinflation who'd ever want to be Prez of that horrible place?
Jul 28th, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remember a few years ago chatting with some Kidiot on this board about Arg ability to sell into Brazil. Bascially I said don't count on it and we went round and round.
Was it Dany? Hep? Voice? Paul? Think? Vestige? Stevie?
They're all so alike in their devotion to and delusions of Arg its hard to remember...or tell them apart sometimes
It does make me chuckle tho
and you all know I love being right
even though it gets boring
;)
elaina
Jul 28th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You spend so much time here”
but you, my dear elaina, spend much more time than me here in this sea of shite.
and since ages ago.
you have begun to blend into its background.
@35 I don't think it is 4th class or shitty. You do and yet you hang around here. You have the problem.
Jul 28th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ElaineB
Jul 28th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo/Think @ 32 says
“Argentina's Victory Front presidential ticket of Daniel Scioli and Carlos Zannini is set to win the coming August PASO primary elections by almost 12 points over nearest challenger Mauricio Macri,”
this 4th class site...mon dieu...
the key question here is who-the-fuck did the poll.
and it is... ceop.”
Ok - it's noted ,
Pablo thinks Macri and the Opposition candidates will win
- let's see if Pablo/ Think is correct.
elaina
Jul 28th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I don't think it is 4th class or shitty”
you should, my dear, dear elaina.
you should.
The preliminary presidential election takes place Aug. 9.
Jul 29th, 2015 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those interested in consulting the many polls conducted from April 2014 to date can check:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elecciones_presidenciales_de_Argentina_de_2015
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