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Malvinas' past statements, open new flank for Buenos Aires mayor Macri

Monday, July 27th 2015 - 06:08 UTC
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”It is dangerous to forget what (Mauricio) Macri said about the Malvinas, that they would represent a deficit for Argentina”, Alicia Castro, Argentine ambassador in the UK was quoted by the Buenos Aires media, following on statements from the Argentine capital's mayor and presidential hopeful in reference to the Falklands Islands. Read full article


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  • HansNiesund

    Heaven forbid that any Argentine politician should actually attempt to think anything through.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Oh, the scandal!

    Beware those that don't follow the dogma.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Further evidence that Malvinismo is a matter of faith and doctrine rather than fact and reason.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    The indoctrination must start in the cradle.

    I had some young english friends drop in at the weekend and ... with no prompting... they told me about having their passports stolen in BA last year.
    Seems that while a nice young 'well educated' local was helping them find the British Embassy to get emergency travel documents the 'well educated' local was banging on about how the ratbag totally horrible thieving Chileans had stolen Patagonia from Argentina...

    Hitler had the youth of Germany for less than twenty years and the shit had to be bombed out of them.....

    70 years of peronist indoctrination? No hope for them.... Argentina is and always shall be a blight on the landscape....

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    This article actually beggars belief. Only in a completely farcical and dysfunctional country would an Ambassador be allowed to speak on, and take sides during domestic electoral campaigning.

    Someone needs to remind this stupid woman, Castro, that she is there to REPRESENT the WHOLE of Argentina, not her politcal paymasters.

    As for the malvinas? Never heard of them. Are they next to never-never land or Atlantis?

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I doubt if it is possible for argieland to give up its illegitimate “claim” to the Falkland Islands whilst any sort of peronist party is in power. Admit they've been wrong for 200 years? Macri is a bit of a worry.
    “as far as I know it costs quite a bit to the English Treasury to keep the Malvinas Islands” so if they are recovered for Argentina, “Malvinas will become an additional deficit for the country's accounts”.
    Should someone tell him that the money HM Treasury spends is for defence against the threat from argieland? But then I suppose the UK could use submarines to land millions of pounds worth of weapons and munitions. Plus special forces. Imagine the reversal. Islanders planting IEDs. British forces planting mines. Mortar attacks on argie facilities. And then the forces fade away. The 21st century and argieland doesn't have to contend with radio messages. It has to contend with digital videos showing its brutality and attempted genocide. How long before the world acts against argieland? Perhaps Macri can see this. Castro doesn't have a brain.

    The suggestion that Britain couldn't take the Falklands back again is quite mistaken. Perhaps not by a frontal assault. Until the aircraft carriers are available. But Commando and special forces actions have a long British history.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    @5 LEPRecon.

    I thought that too. Diplomats were their to serve the needs and interests of the country and it's citizens to foster good relationships with host country and as such be above politics.

    They were supposed to steer away from being overtly political .I thought the clue was in the name . Diplomat thus to use diplomacy to achieve said needs and interests
    It seems the Rg's are not only badly served by their politicians but by their diplomats too.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    As much as I don't want to discourage an Argentine from not wanting the Falklands the quote “as far as I know it costs quite a bit to the English Treasury to keep the Malvinas Islands” should end with “protected from Argentina”

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • psql

    I hope UK “protection” goes away soon. Argentina does and America does not want any UK protection... just go away!

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    Lol. The K's policy towards the Falklands is characterised by utter failure. Thinking anything other than a continuation of failure is seen as a weakness in Macri's flanks. He obviously doesn't covet frequent flyer miles as much as Timerman does.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 9 psql

    The forces are there to defend against idiotic cunts like you who would love to try another invasion of the islands.

    Do grow a brain you twat.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. What do you mean by “America”? Is that south america? Do you understand that there is no combination of south american “countries” that could stop the UK doing whatever it wants. Get all the south american “farces” together and watch the UK trounce them all. Just an example. 200 UK aircraft loaded with air-launched cruise and other missiles. UK submarines launching more cruise missiles. UK destroyers and frigates undertaking shore bombardment with shells at the rate of a shell per minute. And, if the worst comes to the worst, there's always the “big ones”.
    Would the United States be bothered? Wasn't bothered in '82. The U.S. doesn't need any part of south america. But even Obama has been forced to realise that he needs the U.K. Doesn't dare to do much without the U.K. onside.
    The U.K. protection won't be going away anytime soon. It's more likely that argieland will be going away. Does Chile “love” argieland? How about Brazil? Paraguay? Uruguay? A suitable approach and argieland could be threatened from every quarter. Does Chile want Patagonia? Does Brazil want the north-east? Does Paraguay want the north-west? Does Uruguay want argieland to “go away”? It's likely that UK protection will continue until there is no more threat from south america. And you've just declared another threat! Just goes to show how stupid latinos are. Mind you, don't expect the UK to go away for at least 100 years. The Falklands are wonderful training grounds. There will “always” be a capable British force. Latinos lie.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    Alicia Castro - which country does she represent? Cuba or Argentina..?
    One might well ask - whats the difference?

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    There goes the hope of a candidate willing to forget Malvinas. Sorry guys.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    I hope that if Macri wins, he starts the proper steps to DROP the unsuitable, unfunded, and baseless claim that took the live of 2000 people back in `82.

    IF tomorrow morning those islands were part of Argentina, in 2 or 3 days most of them would be sold to the K´s partners and friends at almost no cost, just like they did with hundreds of HAs in the province of santa cruz.

    Please, please, stop the “malvinas” nonsense.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    MM is talking sense . Argentina doesn't need the Falklands , it's big enough as it is already . Furthermore he recognises the fact that Argentina could never defend them .
    He is the one hope the country has of clawing it's way out of the pit of despair it finds itself in .
    And for that reason , he will never be elected .
    Shame .

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    macri also supports the causa malvinas.
    your time in the islets, dear isleteers, is coming to an end.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Do you get paid for your comedy, or does it just comes naturally. i would love to know. Argentina will never get the FALKLANDS as long as you have a hole in your arse.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Left? Right? All the politicians in rotting roadkill are defective and pander to different clientel dependent upon their circumstance.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    The Argies cannot exploit what they have got the 5th biggest land mass on earth. 40 million dumbkopfs who are steadily slipping into the third world on ALL fronts. How a little fairly barren landmass is going to change that is not clear. With the Falklanfs huge success it would be a sensible step for the Argie government to step aside and let the Falklands government run Argieland. In a few years Argies would be rich. Mrs Cheek would undoubtably make a better looking President.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    As the junta's next plan was to attack chile.
    Having fortress falklands not only safeguards the islanders it also means the rest of south america is free of the threat of greater argentina

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    that military garrison in the islets is a threat not only for argentina but for the whole south america.

    that´s why the immediate response to all this shite should be breaking relations with england and isolating the islets in the most radical way.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    22. What an idiotic lie. How is it a threat to Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Brazil, Chile?
    Its only a “threat” to Argentina if you are stupid enough to attack.
    Well you may be stupid enough but you don't have any equipment that can attack ( thank goodness) nor will you anytime in your lifetime.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    Sincere thanks to gorgeous Alicia Castro for drawing everyone’s attention to Argentine politician Mauricio Macri’s earth-shattering quote about the Falklands: “I never quite understood the sovereignty claims of such as big country as ours. We don't have a space problem such as Israel, for example”.
    So there we have the truth, and Miss Castro cannot deny it. It’s in black and white.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you, Alicia. Your vital contribution to showing the reality behind Argentina’s global “cause” will not be forgotten. We will repeat it again and again and again, like here:
    “I never quite understood the sovereignty claims of such as big country as ours. We don't have a space problem such as Israel, for example”.
    Thank you. You're a star, Alicia.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    I hope UK “protection” goes away soon. Argentina does and America does not want any UK protection... just go away!

    TWAT of the lowest order,

    that military garrison in the islets is a threat not only for Argentina but for the whole south America.

    Fear is a wonderful thing in the right hands.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    ”that military garrison in the islets is a threat not only for argentina but for the whole south america.”

    Thank you puke cleaner Paulcedron for confirming Argies are still scared shitless of the British Military.

    Nothing changed since 1982 then?

    Got it.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    Silly boy! Go away? We've been there longer than you have. And you can rest assured that our brothers and sisters on the Falklands will remain free and independent of their cowardly neighbour for as long as they wish. If you're not happy, do something about it. We're waiting for you.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    If we continue on our present military programs,
    The UK will be 50 times more powerful by 2020 than we are now,

    If CFK is just mouth today, she will be speechless absent and forgotten by 2020.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    Doesn’t matter what Corruptina Kirchner has to say, inside her palace, in the loo, in her secure meeting room, GCHQ is recording every word. She would be very, very scared if she realised how much they know about her. And that applies just as much to the Botox beauty’s pet dwarf, Timerman.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @17: “your time in the islets, dear isleteers, is coming to an end.” Hahaha, Paulie, you wish, as Alicia says, “ almost imperceptible agrees.” Which, in my understanding of English means, “barely agree”.
    I doubt these Islands will be yours any time soon. You may as well give up! With leaders like these, we needn't worry about what goes on in your country!

    Tough shit.

    Got it?

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    The rotting roadkillians will be eating from garbage cans in BA long before they ever get close to eating in Port Stanley.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    eating in pork stanley???

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @9 psql,
    @17 & 22 pc idiot,
    lf you think you're good enough, have a go.
    All mouth, no guts.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    shut up isolda.
    and stop harassing

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @32: Eating? We do a lot of that here, you obviously don't know what you're missing - organic, free-range beef, free-range eggs, organic, free-range lamb and mutton, fresh, hydroponically grown vegetables. Not a McDonalds in sight! But you, Paulie, will never know. All you'll ever have is the rubbish you get over there.

    Right, now I've read your rubbish I'm off to listen to Elgar “Land of Hope and Glory”. You can't beat the classics, can you?

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    Just got back from the pub. Everyone was talking about the Argentinian ambassador's almighty boob. No, not talking about that shrivelled flap dangling from Alicia Castro's wrinkly chest but her magnificent blunder drawing the world's attention to what honest and truthful Argentine politician Mauricio Macri said about the Falklands: “I never quite understood the sovereignty claims of such a big country as ours. We don't have a space problem such as Israel, for example”.
    Quite wonderful and never to be forgotten. Lethal ammunition to blow away Corruptina Kirchner's farcical claim to the islands. Our deepest gratitude, big-mouthed Alicia. Sleep well all you lovely, happy people on the Falklands. We are with you, for ever.

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron II

    now the islets are known for their cuisine et vins.....

    you eat what the ordinary hillbilly eats.
    and that is rat, squirrel, penguin, whatever you find in your hut

    Jul 27th, 2015 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PDG0192

    @37: Fresh scallops, sea trout, patagonian toothfish, mussels, kingclip, squid, rock cod, kales, courgettes, carrots, chinese leaves, beetroot, blue potatoes, mutton, lamb, beef. Last year I cooked kangaroo, crocodile, impala, springbok, gembok, ostrich....You know fuck all about the Falkland Islands, my little friend! All of our local produce is free-range and organic.
    When you come over, I;ll let you watch us cook and eat some of the finest quality product I have ever cooked. I won't let you eat it though, your stomach wouldn't be able to take it.
    Granted we don't produce wine, we import good ones from France though. Fortunately, the ship from the UK runs the blockade of your submarine and always manages to get through. We do get some beer, some is brewed here, some people drink Budweiser (brewed in Argentina! you haven't stopped those exports yet, have you?), really good beer from the UK and Germany.
    I tell you, baby, we really live rough! There are no squirrels here, matey boy! Or guinea pigs, before you mention it.
    Nope, wouldn't swap your scabby pizza for the food we cook each day. I know you're jealous.
    Gotta go and listen to “Land of Hope and Glory”, Elgar, again.
    Cheerio, you sad sack of shit!!

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @22 cara de dos ortos podridos

    “that´s why the immediate response to all this shite should be breaking relations with england and isolating the islets in the most radical way.” Ignorant idiot!

    How are you going to break relations with “england”? That would allow Scotland, Wales and Northern Island to sustain the Falklands OK? Stalemate, I think!


    Jul 28th, 2015 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    The most radical isolation you could do would take us back to how it was pre 99 agreement, *shrug*.

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SebaSvtz

    @ 24

    Hahahahaha ! My thoughts exactly ! :)

    TO: Fi government
    From: Me
    Subject: Maps

    Dear FI gov,

    I have a request for you. Since my poor and juvenile country keeps insisting in drawing maps in which the FI are labeled as `Arg.´, I was wondering if you could start printing maps where the whole Argentinian territory is labeled as ` FIs continental land´.

    We have had down here the `malvinas argentinas´ banner for decades and many people sincerely believe that, maybe if we start repeating that Argentina is part of a civil, well managed part of the world, people will believe that and will start acting accordingly, in a mature, responsible way.


    A concerned citizen, sick and tired of BS.

    ps: a `not affiliated with CFK´ disclaimer would be appropriate also.


    Jul 28th, 2015 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “your time in the islets, dear isleteers, is coming to an end.”

    You've bought your museum piece back from the pawn brokers to fly on a suicide mission, then?

    Don't forget your white flag for when you get a Typhoon up your ass.

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Let's not hold our breath. It's by no means certain that Macri will win, and even if he does, remember he's an Argentine politician and is thus unlikely to be much good or be very realistic. However, that said, if he does win and he turfs Amabassador Castro out on her oversized rear end, it'll be an excellent sign.

    Jul 28th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic


    The ideological spectrum in rotting roadkill is so narrow as to be insignificant. As such, the domestic political process can have no possible impact on the inevitable demise of rotting roadkill.

    Go home and reap it Reeeekie.

    Jul 29th, 2015 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    Alicia Castro has done a wonderful job for the islanders. In London, whenever this fat little lady sings, she instantly succeeds in antagonising the British people and making them utterly determined to defend the Falklands.
    Indeed at diplomatic functions she cuts a very lonely figure indeed, the pariah standing in the shadows with one of her embassy lackeys.
    Naturally the diplomatic reports she sends back to her paymaster Corruptina Kirchner tell a different tale, yet another mishmash of lies, but what does anyone expect from an Argentinian envoy? Lies, lies, lies, that’s what the Kirchner regime relies on.

    Jul 29th, 2015 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    65% of Argentines no longer believe the FI will ever be ruled by them .
    Cretina's doesn't actually want the islands , she simply wants the conflict over them to continue , so like the good fascist she is she can go on the state channel again and again decrying the injustice done to her poor , poor , country by British and Yankee imperialism .
    The parallels between her government and Hitler's regime in the 1930's are there for all to see .
    Territorial claims , large political rallies , frequent and never ending state broadcasts , the enrichment of a few , a youth movement ,the involvement of that youth movement in state aid and emergency projects and ardent nationalism constantly reinforced by historical and military symbolism and flags hanging from every balcony in Buenos Aires on the seemingly never ending public holidays .

    Jul 30th, 2015 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    “I think it is most worrying that Macri should downplay the value of a country's sovereignty, which is what enables a country to have economic sovereignty and establish strategic alliances. It is worrying to listen to what he has to say about international relations”

    Reading the above, anyone would think that Ms Castro was thinking seriously about voting for Macri, otherwise why would she “worry” what he thinks or says about anything, not just the Falklands!!!!!!

    Jul 30th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'International relations' .. oh.. so the Falklands aren't domestic then? Thats a start...

    Jul 30th, 2015 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog



    Also as there are all these maps of the Falklands all over Argentina(some of them hollow, alluding to no claim!), could this be a case for the Islanders claiming Argentina, as their Islands are displayed everywhere?

    You would think that Argentina would wish to have maps of Argentina displayed in Argentina!

    Aug 03rd, 2015 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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