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“Shoot first, ask questions later”, the Rio do Janeiro military police procedure
Military police in Rio de Janeiro who seem to follow a “shoot first, ask questions later” strategy are contributing to a soaring homicide rate but are rarely investigated and brought to justice, Amnesty International said on Monday as it published exclusive statistics and analysis ahead of the one-year countdown to the 2016 Rio Olympic Games. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCan't wait for Brasso to give us his slant on this article. Well Brasso what have you to say?
Aug 05th, 2015 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe he's been shot already?
Aug 05th, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's no place 'safe” in Brazil. It is chock full of violent drug dealers and slum dwellers eager to take what ever you have.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who do they think they're kidding?
You can't even go to a full beach and feel safe.
Silly monkeys.
Will there be some form of apartheid between the Olympic/tourist areas and the rest of Rio?
Aug 05th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0With a virtual wall made up of military?
A sanitised area, and the rest outside?
And what about police killing in USA????
Aug 05th, 2015 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ghdM66U4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tpAZObNZfI
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Amnesty International fails to mention how many lives would have been lost with these scumbag drug dealers running around today.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not much you can do with these uneducated violent thugs but shoot em.
Not all of Brazil is as dangerous as Rio. That's quite a simplistic view. However its homicide rate is pretty abhorrent.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 056,000 in 2012. That's the government 'estimate'. The WHO estimates 64,000.
The US rate is disgustingly high but that only reached 14,200 in 2013. And the EU only had 5,289 in 2013. So the majority of 'the west' didn't even reach 20,000 which isn't even half of the official rate or a 1/3 of the estimated realistic rate.
Since 2007, Brazil's homicide rate as climbed 20%. For comparison it has dropped in the US, UK, Canada, Australia, Paraguay and even remained stable in Colombia. Let's not look at Venezuela which is worse than Brazil.
I'm sure Dany's YouTube clips are (to his Argentinean education) extremely fascinating. However as the US homicide rate is 25% of Brazil's even though its population is 160%. There may be policE killings in the US but they don't exceed Brazil's.
The truth is that you are more likely to be killed in Argentina or Brazil or Venezuela than in the US.
Post all the YouTube crap you want. Won't change that FACT.
Brazil
Anyone remember this:
Aug 05th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ibtimes.com/brazilian-bike-thief-shot-attempted-sao-paulo-motorcycle-theft-foiled-after-brazil-police-officer
Seems fair enough to me! I'd like to see the wimp pick my bike up off the floor, it only weighs 257Kg!
No doubt some police abuse their position but to some extent that is understandable given they are the target of the drug gangs that actually seem to rule this damnable country as far as the citizens are concerned.
Most Police killings in the USA are justified. The only people weeping over the scubags they've killed are the bleeding heart liberals who want gun control they'll never get.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my humble opinion if someone gets convicted 2x on the 3rd time they get a bullet in the head.
It would solve a lot of problems we have.
Does DanyBerger think that because there are police killings in the USA, it justifies those in Brazil?
Aug 05th, 2015 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or what?
This news gathering site, and its discussion boards, are primarily focused on MercoSur countries. Hence the name Mercopress.
I have never understood that when posters are discussing current events in say BA or Rio, some idiot will pipe up with; “well, yeah, but shit happens in the UK/US/EU too”
We know that!
Does that make it any less worse/better?
We know other countries and continents have their own problems, so what!
There are plenty of forums to discuss them.
Do these idiots think we want to engage in some competitive race to the bottom?
Surely they should be adding constructive comments, and perhaps even positive ideas for possible solutions, rather than this immature attitude of “well, you're crap too, so nerr, nerr”
Or is that just too much to hope for?
10. No matter what they post, all of these one-off, obscure, irrelevant “news” articles about UK USA EU its pales in comparison to what happens in SoAm. There's a reason its called the 3rd world.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of these posters have never traveled more than 30 minutes from where they were born.
They have no idea what its like to live in a clean, secure, hopeful place.
Regarding Brazil for the last 7-9 years, the big thing everybody has been talking about is the total number of people brought from the poverty level to the Brazilian “middle class”. My thoughts are, is this sustainable? And, what do the incredible homicide rates say about the economic growth? I'd love to hear Brasileiro's thoughts on these questions.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not only are most police killins in the USA justified, only the fuck ups make the news for sensationalization and ultimately make to to the “intellects TV” called youtube.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their are around 900 fatal police shooting a year in the USA, most of which are justified.....i.e. The assailant draws down on the officer. 900 out of 320,000,000.....can you calculate that percentage? Now remove the justifed shooting from that number.
Cheeseburger, here's the most recent:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/deputy-675830-sheriff-county.html
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/deputy-675830-sheriff-county.html
Geeeez....youtube and wiki........you have a credibility issue far beyond being Argentine.
Perhaps Brasso has been killed today and not been able to post, never mind Brasso silence is golden, you obviously condone all the killings in Brazil.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasshole is like a shark tooth.....one falls out and another replaces him in 24 hours. What really amazes me is their endless supply of human drones.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 Our favorite sport here is to steal and kill tourists from North America and England.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So we will know that we have no interest in receiving tourists from these two places for the Olympics. Right?
3rd world countries should never get the Olympics.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its always a disaster
Remember in Russia you couldn't even use the running water to wash it was so toxic.
Terrible people terrible places.
@5 hamburger
Aug 05th, 2015 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0all your videos mean nothing .....you gotta analyze the number of assassinations per 100,000 inhabitants.....the rest is sensationalism.
@16 brASSHOLE
“The majority of victims of police killings registered from 2010 to 2013 are young black men of between 15 and 29 years of age.”
You had better watch out......dress properly and remove your hoodie, the police may be targeting you right now....
@16 The Brazil Gang speaks:
Aug 05th, 2015 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you admit to being murderers. Should you be confessing on this news site?
Oh dear Brasso, is that all you can say. Please justify the horrific number of murders. It does tend to lead one to say that your country is not a safe place to visit particularly if you are young and black. I have to say that many of my countrymen feel the same. Why have you have so many poor black people and so many “ favelas ”
Aug 05th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasshole.....so you are finally admitting to what you truly are? About time. However I have a hard time you yourself are a murderer. To some degree that takes balls. I think you are more like the ball licker........ass wiper....for the actual scumbags in Brazil who go around killing “tourists”.
Aug 05th, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.businessinsider.com/rios-filth-is-already-spoiling-the-2016-summer-olympics-2015-7
http://www.businessinsider.com/rios-filth-is-already-spoiling-the-2016-summer-olympics-2015-7
Security, now we know that Brasshole goes out killing tourists.
http://www.businessinsider.com/rios-filth-is-already-spoiling-the-2016-summer-olympics-2015-7
WTF was the Olympic committee thinking?????????????????????????
Maybe the police killings are part of Brazil's security plan for the Olympics.....watch your asshole brasshole!!
A word to describe the brASSHOLE's stupidity hasn't been invented yet...but he had better watch out, he is in the bigest risk group.......maybe he'll be shot soon, but we won't know....unless another asshole wants to take his place, and tell us about it......after all, as Capt.Poppy said, there is an endless supply of these expendable twats..
Aug 05th, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Our favorite sport here is to steal and kill tourists from North America and England.”
Aug 05th, 2015 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well considering that it is mostly Brazilians being robbed and killed then I would judge that yet another....... Brazilian fail!
Do you guys get anything right?
@Skip
Aug 06th, 2015 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The truth is that you are more likely to be killed in Argentina or Brazil or Venezuela than in the US. ”
No true about Argentina you have ever been here to start with...
@yankeebobo
Lie, US police are just plain murders, bad trained and abuse their power.
@Captain Poppy
“Not only are most police killins in the USA justified”
Yes like this for example???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufn8cKUjxbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufn8cKUjxbk
These policemen sould be judged in an international court for crimes against humanity.
Sure thel will get a life sentence.
As I said many times USMEX cities are dangerous as war zones
Ummm. .....
Aug 06th, 2015 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dany!
Yoohoo! Dany!!!!
What the fuck has the USA got to do with Brazilian police killings?
Does it change anything in Brazil?
Do deaths in the USA make deaths in Brazil more or less important?
Why don't you address the actual issue, rather than shouting about others?
Why aren't you sharing youtube links to police shootings in Africa?
Fool.
I don't have to go to Argentina to know that it has a higher homicide rate than Australia.... or Canada.... or the US.
Aug 06th, 2015 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0By your logic you wouldn't know if it was true if you are actually not there right now. Being in a place is not the same as knowing a fact.
I am not speaking from personal experience and I have never claimed to. However as you no longer live in Argentina, then you can hardly comment on what conditions are like as you are wont to.
A higher homicide rate means a higher likelihood of being killed.
dany you should go back to the test tube that you were born in.
Aug 06th, 2015 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0youtube......enough said. You latinas are all the same.
@5 & 24 shittyburger
Aug 06th, 2015 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your videos only prove one thing.....most of the victims are...or were....really stupid individuals who thought they could be smart with the Police, be disrespectful, be stupid, refuse to obey clear orders - not once, not twice, but several times - and get away with it. Don't see the cops approaching and killing any self-respecting , law-abiding citizens......only scumbags.
Some of those people shot by police in the USA are amazing. WHo in their right minds tells a cop....“fuck you” when asked for ID's? Most law abiding people when questioned by police abide their requests. These people just continue to push the limits and push the police.....WHY??
Aug 06th, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 captain,
Aug 06th, 2015 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe it's the liberal way of thinking that has got a lot of people going on the wrong track.....they believe they don't need to obey the Law, they all feel entitled, like they have the 'right' to be supported by someone else's taxes, and so on....a lack respect and absolutely no common sense, is a good formula for getting killed..
It was a rhetorical question. However I do not agree. Respect is not liberal or conservative. You see what Congress calls Obama during SOTHUA and to his face? Of course US Congreemen are subject to their overseers and when they pull the marionette strings, they only react. Being in the military AND the way my father raised me......your respect the position but but have to respect the man. The saddest thing I've noticed since 2001 is that more and more Americans are trying to survive and not improve.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, I'm not trying to imply that lack of respect is a liberal and only a liberal attribute.....but usually, most people who behave according to the more traditional, more conservative values, are less likley to get into a tangle with the police...at least that's how I see it here, in Brazil, where the feeling of entitlement, not supported by the Law, causes a lot of people to unwisely confront the police.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh!
Aug 07th, 2015 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The idiots don't know what is to live in a civilised society...
The police is not the law and they are subjects to obey the law as any other citizen.
Police in US only can shoot a person constitutionally in 2 circuntances.
1-When their life is at risk (Self-defence standard) or when the life of an inocent victim is at risk by a criminal.
2-When a criminal have commited a serious crime like murdering someone, etc. and probable by the police and the criminal tries to escape or resist with violence his arrest.
Look for sentence “Supreme Court decision called Tennessee vs. Garner” that clear says that “police couldn't shoot every felon who tried to escape”
So insulting, making joke, or even run away from the police or whatever is not enough cause to be killed by a cop and that is a plain cold blood killing according with the law.
But US seems had become like a totalitarian state where civilian rights are taken away and the police can kill you for whatever reason they like.
There are quite a few people here in the USA who also have that feeling of being entitled and not having to work for a living. In fact it's amazing to see these people come in from other countries whom are already well versed in the “rights”. That I actually find pathetic. I really want to see portions of the 14th amendment modified to spell out the being here while pregnant does NOT make the kids automatic Americans. I think that there needs to be time limits on welfare in the USA provided we train and educate them so that they can be productive. We need to provide a hand up.....not handouts. Middleclass pass their homes to their kids.........the poor hand their kids the secret of milking the system.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 hamburger,
Aug 08th, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The idiots don't know what is to live in a civilised society...”
A very shrewed observation.... that is usually the case with idiots..
“The police is not the law and they are subjects to obey the law as any other citizen”.
Sure...the Police are 'not' the Law, and need to obey it as well, but it is them who are supposed to enforce it in civilized societies....against idiots.
@34 Captain
Cannot but agree.
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