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“Malvinas March” compulsory singing after the Argentine anthem in Salta province
As of this week it is official in the Argentine province of Salta: after playing the Argentine national anthem, the “Malvinas March” is compulsory in all school, civilian and military events in that provincial territory. The bill approved by the provincial Senate was signed and put into effect last 30 June by governor Juan Manuel Uturbey. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPfft. The gringos were on to this years ago.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Almost overnight the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was in full flower, and Captain Black was enraptured to discover himself spearheading it. He had really hit on something. All the enlisted men and officers on combat duty had to sign a loyalty oath to get their map cases from the intelligence tent, a second loyalty oath to receive their flak suits and parachutes from the parachute tent, a third loyalty oath for Lieutenant Balkington, the motor vehicle officer, to be allowed to ride from the squadron to the airfield in one of the trucks. Every time they turned around there was another loyalty oath to be signed. They signed a loyalty oath to get their pay from the finance officer, to obtain their PX supplies, to have their hair cut by the Italian barbers. To Captain Black, every officer who supported his Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a competitor, and he planned and plotted twenty-four hours a day to keep one step ahead. He would stand second to none in his devotion to country. When other officers had followed his urging and introduced loyalty oaths of their own, he went them one better by making every son of a bitch who came to his intelligence tent sign two loyalty oaths, then three, then four; then he introduced the pledge of allegiance, and after that “The Star-Spangled Banner,” one chorus, two choruses, three choruses, four choruses. Each time Captain Black forged ahead of his competitors, he swung upon them scornfully for their failure to follow his example. Each time they followed his example, he retreated with concern and racked his brain for some new stratagem that would enable him to turn upon them scornfully again.”
Joseph Heller, Catch-22
Nice to see the kids have been properly taught to do *the salute* in that last picture. I wonder if the song begins “Argentina uber alles, Uber alles in der welt.”
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Without realizing how it had come about, the combat men in the squadron discovered themselves dominated by the administrators appointed to serve them. They were bullied, insulted, harassed and shoved about all day long by one after the other. When they voiced objection, Captain Black replied that people who were loyal would not mind signing all the loyalty oaths they had to. To anyone who questioned the effectiveness of the loyalty oaths, he replied that people who really did owe allegiance to their country would be proud to pledge it as often as he forced them to. And to anyone who questioned the morality, he replied that “The Star-Spangled Banner” was the greatest piece of music ever composed. The more loyalty oaths a person signed, the more loyal he was; to Captain Black it was as simple as that, and he had Corporal Kolodny sign hundreds with his name each day so that he could always prove he was more loyal than anyone else.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The important thing is to keep them pledging,” he explained to his cohorts. “It doesn’t matter whether they mean it or not. That’s why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what ‘pledge’ and ‘allegiance’ means.”
What utter idiocy? Are these people collectively in their right minds?
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why prolong a lost cause?
Could you imagine this kind of insanity in the 21st century.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0What next ......give them all Maximo Kirchener hairstyles.
I agree - this is bizarre in the 21st century.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0But it's not really a statement about the Falklands. In reality its a statement about Argentina. Insecure, powerless and failing
Comedy gold what is next? Pissed myself laughing at this.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahahaha ... Bahahahahahaha! Twats!
Aug 07th, 2015 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 02nd rate politicians in a 2nd rate province in a 2nd rate country.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 & 3 HansNiesund
Aug 07th, 2015 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one.
Bwahahahahahaha!
Aug 07th, 2015 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every day they provide new laughs.
I love Argentina, always a chuckle over my cornflakes whilst reading the news.
Did they miss out on a century of progress? Is it still 1933 in Germany for them?
@1
A very apposite quote, well done sir!
(from a very fine novel, may I say )
I just read this with my jaw on the floor. Of all the stupidity in Argentina this has to be the stupidest. - what next - everybody has to stand on their heads when KFC is mentioned.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0My smack was absolutely gobbed
@2 ECP - that picture is really creeeeepy!
Argentinian folk here.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I went to elementary school during the 80s, and to `secundary´ (middle) school during the 90s.
The `m. march´ was known and sang during school acts on april 2nd; it was only during that week when we had to sing it, and then we simply forget about the march and the topic for the rest of the year. It could also be heard during military parades (specially when war veteran were present).
I have to say that during the 90s and most of the 2000s that march was rarely listened to outside schools.
And as long as it takes to where I live, it was never mandatory to sing it.
I absolutely agree when some people say it is “mandatory patriotism”. It´s absurd.
I am entitled NOT to agree with the foreign policy of my country. Period.
@ 2
That salute was usually performed at school when we took the pledge of allegiance to our flag. We were all aged 8. In my school we were supposed to perform it but some parents properly complained telling that it looked like a nazi salute.
Salta was one town in Argentina that I would quite like to visit - I've always fancied taking a trip on the “tren a las nubes” - but I'm having second thoughts. Will I be expected to sing the Malvinas March before I can board the train? Utter madness.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is right out of the Banana Republic text book. You'd think in the 21st century these people would have liked to be respected more rather than laughed at - apparently not.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the economy is failing ;Offer Nationalism.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the politicians are failing;Offer Nationalism.
If the Judiciary is failing ;Offer Nationalism.
If the educationalists are failing;Offer Nationalism.
If your country is failing .....
And if this is the song that won the competition .God only knows what the standard of the rest was.
It was laughable comedy until I saw that last picture with the school kids wearing COMSOMOL uniforms and doing a Sieg Heil.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now it is outright scary...
@14 I have been there a couple of times and enjoyed it. The scenery around that area is spectacular, though poverty is also evident. The “tren a las nubs” was not running both times I visited. You can see some real gauchos in and around though the best time is when they have the big festival when they all come into town. They get pretty drunk.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Interesting post.
@1 Doffs cap to you.
A return to fascism.. WTF over! This is 2015... ??
Aug 07th, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come on, sing this all together now:
Aug 07th, 2015 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63JAGfLxQS8
Hey! Itsa ver nice to see da kids maka da salute lika that.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Heil Mussolini!
But..what a mistaka to maka!
As the old joke would have it, the salute demonstrates “the shit is this high in Argentina”
Aug 07th, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Aug 07th, 2015 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for sharing that, I got half way through and got bored, it does go on rather. I thought this one -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWLQmSaw_c
was more amusing, it does give an insight into the IQ's we are dealing with.
You poor people are utterly deluded and succumb so easily to indoctrination, its quite sad in 2015.
@20. How does it go? Have you got the words?
Aug 07th, 2015 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does it go
”We are farters? Yes we are
Are we wankers? Yes we are
Are we cowards? Yes we are
Are we runners? Yes we are
Let our navy put to sea
Best place for it when it wants a pee
See our pilots rule the skies
But only for 20 miles
Before their wings drop off
See the courage of our brave soldiers
Kitted out like Batman
See them bravely fight and die
And die. And die. And die.
We'll meet again
Don't know where, don't know when
Always time to spill more argie blood
Some sunny day.
I think it'll be a hit. I can see it selling at least 66 million copies.
Those who allow their children to be brainwashed and indoctrinated are only allowing a dictatorship to corrupt and brainwash the next and future generations who will then go on to make the same mistakes as their forefathers,
Aug 07th, 2015 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argentine people will reap what the argentine government is sowing,
your choice, your future,
so its your fault.
@23
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad that a cartoon is considered fact when it is pure fantasy-the image of the Super Etendard trailing smoke from its jetpipe is interesting-a projection of fantasy or fact?
@24
Sounds accurate as I am sure Paul will confirm, but you may have missed out 'white flags' in the lyrics.
@2
“Nice to see the kids have been properly taught to do *the salute* in that last picture. I wonder if the song begins “Argentina uber alles, Uber alles in der welt”
Given the general revulsion at Hitler's Nazi regime you wonder if the Argentines have any comprehension of public relations?
@6 Brasherboot
“I agree - this is bizarre in the 21st century.
But it's not really a statement about the Falklands. In reality its a statement about Argentina. Insecure, powerless and failing”
If only they could realise this.
They seem to be more concerned about the Falklands than Salta.
”there is no more loved piece of soil in our homeland”.
That wasn't the view of many conscripts that surrendered, they seemed keen to get back to Argentina pretty quickly.
Uturbey ridiculous.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think I spelt utterly correctly!
What a pitiful country The Dark Country is and how fitting that tag is.
I know we all keep saying it BUT: just when you think they cannot get any crazier - they manage it!
@26 They were probably taught the salute by one of the Nazis who found refuge in Argentina after the war. I guess we should be thankful the Nazi refugees didn't manage to pass on their fighting skills too.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That photo of the kids doing the Nazi-esque salute and being forced to sing an indoctrinated song is going to do wonders for the Argentine cause worldwide.
Aug 07th, 2015 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“....and put into effect last 30 June by governor Juan Manuel Uturbey.”
Aug 07th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0by the way...who the fuck is UTURBEY?
maybe this 4th class site tried to say URTUBEY?
again, U-R-T-U-B-E-Y?
now, with newspapers like penguin-shit news, this 4th class site, schools like the pork stanley community school, no high schools, no universities, no colleges, etc, it is obvious that the whole bunch of bennies will remain ignorant for all eternity.
the worst thing is that they are happy with that.
brrrr
Shameful .... And what is really sad is these people are adults who know what that salute relates to... teaching children of such a despicable action ... they should be removed and I mean permanently... Such small minds!
Aug 07th, 2015 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This article exemplifies why Argentina is not taken seriously on the world stage.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good time to remember the truths of the Irish lyrics of this song.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BniyC33QdjM
Perhaps the “ FALKLANDERS ” should have their own song about the facts of the history of the “ FALKLANDS ” only to be sung ( in Argie form of Spanish, Castelleno) when the LAN flight arrives and they greet the Argies with a rendition. They only recognise “ like for like ” in that backwood country.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30
Aug 08th, 2015 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the average percentage of children that go on to further education in Argentina?
110% of course.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations to the Pumas on their win today against South Africa - fantastic game which they thoroughly deserved to win.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Almost as good as the cricket win for England against Australia¡
@33
Aug 08th, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Good time to remember the truths of the Irish lyrics of this song”
The Irish guy I know( born in Dublin) who served in artillery supporting the attack on Goose Green in 1982 proves the lyrics are bullshit.
He didn't have a problem fighting for the right side.
William Dickson, one of Vernet's settlers was appointed British resident in 1833. He was born in Dublin. Looks like he didn't care much for the lyrics in that song.
Still you had the almighty Patricio Dowling-but my mate doesn't remember him being at Goose Green when the paras turned up-if he was that brave, why was this self proclaimed Irish- Argentine not on Pebble Island to help his mates out when the SAS turned up?
Where was Admiral Brown in 1833?
Not surprising that the United Provinces of the River Plate had few 'latino; sailors-most of them were British mercenaries (hence when Pinedo wanted to resist Onslow in 1833-slight problem, most of his sailors were born in Britain, no doubt some English amongst them, and they didn't fancy fighting their own people)- why did Pinedo not crew his ship with Latinos? Does the white flag culture go back that far?
The funny part is that when Brown was fighting fighting Brazil,(as in that song)- guess who was in the Brazilian navy then?-Yes, you've guessed it-Daniel Jewitt-that name ring a bell?
I hope there will be a version of this song waving the white flag of Argentina-more accurate than the crap they are singing about.
And this band forget that Buenos Aires was Spanish in 1806, and whilst we got a kicking then, we protected Spain from France when a certain Mr San Martin was fighting on the British side.
Yep! This will ensure victory in the “Malvinas”. (Trolls: this is called irony; don't look pleased!)
Aug 08th, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pete boludo
Aug 08th, 2015 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“William Dickson, one of Vernet's settlers was appointed British resident in 1833. He was born in Dublin. Looks like he didn't care much for the lyrics in that song.”
but my dear pete boludo...ireland became independent in 1921.
then, of course they were appointed as british residents.
even my great great great grandpa who came from cox county was appointed as british resident, and he did not love that thing called “great” (lol) britain too much.
pete boludo- history: FAIL
@40: Your great great Grandfather came from where? Cox County? Where is that? If he came from the south, then he couldn't have become British, he'd be Irish.
Aug 08th, 2015 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You thick twat!
Paulie - history and geography fail!
PeDo
Aug 09th, 2015 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot understand you all very well.
even a retard KNOWS THAT IRELAND WAS PART OF THAT JOKE OF UNITED (LOL) KINGDOM form 1801 to 1921.
and as the whole fucking world knows most of the irish migrants here came from 1830 to 1920, so the whole bunch of them were british, sadly.
now you are right, the name of the county is cork.
all this noise just because of a typo....mon dieu
PeDo- History.: 0/10
@40: This is what you wrote, Paulie - “.ireland became independent in 1921.
Aug 09th, 2015 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0then, of course they were appointed as british residents.” So, after Ireland became independent, in 1921, your great, great grandfather, from Cy. Cork, in Ireland, was made British?
Or do you actually mean, that when he emigrated, before 1921, he had been British? I can tell it's not your natural language, if that is what you actually meant to say. I'm not surprised you don't understand us, if what we read from you is so twisted up!
By the way, why do you constantly write my tag as “PeDo”? Is that your intelligence showing through?
I'm still waiting for your interpretation of UN Resolution 502, promise me you will answer.
Please refrain from all the swearing as well, it doesn't put you in a good light. It makes you seem like a knuckle-dragger.
Cheery-bye, Paulie.......
Recht oder Unrecht - mein Vaterland!
Aug 09th, 2015 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 PDG0192
Aug 09th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0paulcedron is a foul mouthed juvenile! The Spanish word “pedo” is “fart” in English so it is his twisted way of insulting you!
He uses every opportunity to insult people - for example my nick is “Gordo1” - “gordo” in Spanish means “fat/obese” so idiot child addresses me frequently as “fat”. “Gordo” is just an abbreviation of my name!
His performances are pathetic but his idiocies are frequently laughable! For example - County Cork and Cox County! He hasn't got a clue.
@43: Yeah, hi Gordo1, I'm very aware of Paulie and his weird postings. I like reading what he writes; his inability to use English, his warped view of history, geography, law and the UN. Above all, though, I love it when he uses phrases like, “as I have wisely said” and when he tells us he is educated, polite, has a refined taste and isn't a racist or xenophobe.
Aug 09th, 2015 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world would be a little emptier without him!
I still want him to pay us a visit though, it would be brilliant to meet him in the flesh.
Cox County was an awesome “typo” though! ;-)
@40 paulmoron
Aug 09th, 2015 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course Dickson was British in 1833. As he was born in Dublin-he was also Irish. No fail in my history, sonny. It is you who is too stupid to understand 'Britishness'.
The British sailors working for Pinedo chose their homeland before the United Provinces. Tough that eh?
The Scottish people today are British, but they are also Scottish. As per English, Welsh, Bermudans and Falkland Islanders , who are also British.
Too big a concept for you to get your tiny brain around.
This does mean of course that William Brown was a Brit you had to get in to run your navy as the latinos couldn't do it.
You had no Brits running your Navy in 1982, only that idiot 'plastic-face' Anaya.
One of the reasons you lost in 1982. Your Irish Argentine amigo Patricio Dowling didn't stay to fight once the Brits arrived either.
“Malvinas March” compulsory singing after the Argentine anthem in Salta province
Aug 10th, 2015 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bill approved by the provincial Senate was signed and put into effect last 30 June by governor Juan Manuel Uturbey.
......Well then, that would make governor Juan Manuel.......Uturbey stoopid!!!
Boom!! Boom!!!
oh come now!!! I know that the rest of you wanted to crack that joke... It's just that I got there first.
@ 48 toooldtodieyoung
Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See my post 27!
:o)
Argentina may as well sing ring a ring a roses, a pocket full of posies for all the good it will do them.
Aug 13th, 2015 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 50 Pete Bog
Aug 13th, 2015 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent choice, they are used to 'falling down'.
:o)
The Falklands March. What a wonderful tribute from 40 million Argentinians to 3,000 Falklanders. Thank you, dear friends, it is so comforting to know that these islands possess such great power over the failed state of Argentina. Gracias, compadres.
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