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“Spain acting as an aggressor and not a European partner” with Gibraltar
Gibraltar’s Conservative MEP Ashley Fox is compiling a dossier of constituent complaints and experiences of crossing the border in and out of Gibraltar. Mr Fox will hand the dossier to the EU Commission and says it will show Spain is acting “as an aggressor and not a European partner”, according to a report from the Gibraltar Chronicle. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt isn't a matter of inconvenience. It's a matter of criminality. Spain is big on arguing that the Treaty of Utrecht only refers to the Port of Gibraltar. The
Aug 10th, 2015 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0brainless Spanish. In 1713, territorial waters were defined by the “cannon-shot” rule. Usually three miles. No mention of any spanish territorial waters in the Treaty of Utrecht. So spain didn't have any. Fast forward to 1956/8 and UNCLOS I. And then on to 1982 and UNCLOS III. Suddenly, coastal states got territorial waters that didn't require cannon. But cannon can now have ranges of 100 nautical miles or more. Would Spain like that? All the cannon mounted in tunnels in The Rock.
And sink or shoot down anything spanish. Invaders deserve all they get.
The water territories are an interesting thing to talk, but the real dispute is on the isthmus where the airport was built and the waters that belong to it.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputed_status_of_the_isthmus_between_Gibraltar_and_Spain
Toke in a very British way in any case.
Mr Ashley really you should read more History!!
Aug 10th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The AGGRESSOR is Britain for invading another fellow European
nation and having THE LAST BRITISH COLONY on European soil.....
and who would want to have Britain as a European partner when you plant a
colony on its soil!!!!
back to class Mr Ashley..you are a joke!!
@3. Whoops. A matter of WAR. Anyone remember the attempt at spanish hegemony that led to the War of the Spanish Succession? Spain started a war (Aggressor). It lost because the British were better. The British are always better. Always good to send criminals thousands of miles away. What a pity it's only 10,571 miles.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Notice that? Slaggy spanish attack. Who cares about “Europe”? And it seems that a lot of people like Britain. Although “Europeans” need to learn to develop themselves. Before we have to exterminate them.
let me tell you this, you bennys and monkeys:
Aug 10th, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gibraltar is a colony.
gibraltar does not have the entity to be partner with any sovereign country.
end of discussion.
“ The British are always better” LOL
Aug 10th, 2015 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don´t forget that to take Gibraltar you needed the help of the Dutch, Portugal,Austria and some Catalan merceneries against Spain...
The 100 years war(s) suggests otherwise.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Duration: 116 years.
Result: French victory.
@ 3 aussiesusnshine
Aug 10th, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever heard of the Treaty of Utrecht? Gibraltar was ceded to Great Britain in PERPETUITY by the Monarch of Spain. And don't forgot that Menorca was a British dependency for many years but was returned to Spain by the terms of the Treaty of Amiens.
@5 cara de dos ortos podridos
Let me tell you, ignorante pelotudo y boludo, Gibraltar is NOT a colony it is a self governing British Overseas Territory. End of discussion.
So just go away and mind your own affairs.
I say this,
Aug 10th, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if Spain is our NATO ally,
then I suggest we join the Russians and let them join,
if Spain is supposed to be our friend and fellow member of the unmighty EU, then I suggest we withdraw as fast as we can,
to be honest with you,
if this is what Spain calls allies and friendship,
then I suggest we make friends with north Korea and IRAN,
they are probably more friendly and trustworthy,
Spain is a disgrace,
and the unmighty EU will do nothing, why ?
Because deep down, most of them are secretly more anti British than the Spanish are,
just my humble Spanish serenade
Stand up CAMARON, Britain should put these Spanish upstarts in their place,
just saying like..
Vestige, going back 600 years to make a point.....that in itself speaks volumes.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The anties have nothing else to do, except blame the brits.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems the Opium Wars never ended, and the cousins are at war again.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gilbralter has been a drug trafficking stop over for a long time. There was a time when the British government feigned concern. In Latin America it is common knowledge that major trafficking doesn't happen without government complicity.
Circa 1994: (Fears grow over Gibraltar's drug-runners
An illicit and lucrative trade using fast boats is disturbing governments in London and Madrid, Phil Davison writes from the Rock -PHIL DAVISON Wednesday 14 December 1994)
Massive amounts of pure cheap Afghan heroin, which is protected by NATO troops, is flooding world markets, along with other illicit drugs. Drug addiction is epidemic, while socially engineered “Drug Legalization” is established around the world. The scheme was funded by Oligarch agents such as Fat Cats like Soros et al.
Earlier this year US Federal Agencies made the bizarre move to open an investigation into the Andorra banking scandal that involved “high ranking” laundering money for criminals around the world. The fact that that criminal money was going back into political coffers in places such as Mexico didn't make international headlines.
It was a bizarre move because the American sock puppets have ignored money laundering committed by EVERY major bank. HSBC admitted to criminal activity with Mexican traffickers and Loretta Lynch gave them a sweetheart deal. According to Swiss Leaks the British bank has over $900 BILLION in Swiis accounts alone.
In July Spain questioned Britains false data regarding their plethora of tax shelters. Gibralter was omitted. History show the British Oligarchs, who are really German (Bavarian House of Hanover), love monopolies (Indian Famines). Perhaps the treasonous American sockpuppets which the Monroe Doctrine failed to protect us from were taking out the competition for those they are beholden to.
We are all Pawns in the Game, and they loathe the peasants. Dope Inc. is real.
8 gordo pelotudo
Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...it is a self governing British Overseas Territory.”
lets see if you can understand something you stinky ball of fat:
colony is exactly the same shite as a bot.
bot is just an euphemism for colony.
the thing is you dont even have the balls to name them as what they really are: 3rd class colonies
Can't wait for Gibraltar to one day declare independence.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There'll be rioting in Spanish streets and I will laugh so hard I'll probably wet my pants.
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Aug 10th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i thought you already wore adult diapers.
@paulcedron II tell us who INPLANTED your filthy ancestors into South America you piece of shit.
Aug 10th, 2015 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 - would you prefer something more recent ?
Aug 10th, 2015 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 - good luck with that, no EU to cry to = toll road. Get a stock of pants if you're on the gib side, never know when Spain will just say 'nope', 'next month'.
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Aug 10th, 2015 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pedazo de forro
and what the fuck iss INPLANTED, you retarded benny hillbilly?
you dont even know how to speak / write your natural language.
and it is the only one you “know” (LOL), you piece of shite.
You have no idea about identity Vestige.
Aug 11th, 2015 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain can do what it wants, it will never stop Gibraltans from being Gibraltans nor deny them independence if they desire it.
None of their previous blockades have had their desired effect. So block away.
Spain stole land from the Africans and are still their today,
Aug 11th, 2015 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0then complains about others,
two faced,
YOU HAVE TERRITORY DISPUTE IN ARGENTINA, SPAIN, IRELAND, CHAGOS, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
Aug 11th, 2015 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ALL DIFFERENT PROBLEMS WITH 1 COMMON DENOMINATOR: LITTLE ENGLAND.
THEN THE IMBECILES ASK THEMSELVES WHY THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HATES THEM.
And you have a dispute with your hatred..
Aug 11th, 2015 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in the meantime,
They want an incident
EXCLUSIVE: Hostile moment Spanish police RAM British guard boat off Gibraltar in UK waters
THIS is the dramatic moment a Spanish Guardia Civil boat RAMMED into a Gibraltar police boat amid rising tensions in the British waters
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/597333/Dramatic-moment-Spanish-police-RAM-British-guard-boat-Gibraltar
Watch the video=
Mr Picardo, as well as condemning this action, he also has stated that Gibraltar wants strong relations with Spain, peacefully,
[sadly you can’t have it both ways, and some may say , encouraging the Spanish ]
The parliamentary committee in London has demanded Cameron kicks out the Spanish ambassador,
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The “shocking and disgusting” act of aggression led to Andrew Rosingdell MP to call for Gibraltar to have its own MP in Westminster
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Something must be done.
@21
Aug 11th, 2015 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no territorial dispute with Ireland. There are disputes with Spain and Argentina die to those countries' refusal to recognise the principles of law, democracy and human rights in pursuit of their territorial ambitions. The whole fucking world does not hate us, because the whole fucking world has not been subjected to the Argentine “education” system.
Hope that clears it up for you.
#12: Utter tripe is what you have posted. As regards Gibraltar and drug-smuggling - have you seen the date of the articles you posted? 1994. That's 21 years ago, you cretin. Note that the people arrested on Sunday were Spanish. The ones arrested by Gibraltar Police last week were Spanish. The drug-smugglers - in fact all the smugglers - are Spanish.
Aug 11th, 2015 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On;y last year the CIA listed Spain as the drug-smuggling and money-laundering capital of Europe.
And yes - Spain objected to Gibraltar not being listed on the tax haven list from the EU. Why wasn't it listed? Because it is not a tax haven. It has agreements with all major nations (except Spain) and is up to date with all EU and OECD directives.
Spain was furious that Andorra - which Spain has an agreement with - was included. Why? Because Andorra is a tax haven. It is listed as such and does not comply with regulations. However, the leading members of the PP have millions hidden there, so they are pissed off.
So go and get some up to date information.
#2: There is no dispute over the isthmus. It is British. It was included in Utrecht under the list of “fortifications” as there was a tower only 50m from the current border. It was then the Neutral Zone specified in the Treaty of Seville, which also included LA Linea town centre. The British built on their half. The British built on their half: so did the Spanish.
As to the waters: undeniably British. Margallo accepts this as he stated in the Cortes, on 13 Decemebr 2013, that he would not take the issue to the International Courts (ITLOS) because “we would find it extremely difficult to win the case”.
So: Spain are pirates. They know this is illegal. They don't have the guts to go to court as they would lose, and they know it. So they resort to bullying, as they bully their own colonies in Catalunya and Euskadi: as they bully Morocco over their colonies in Africa.
Gutless, spineless nation of losers.
@paulcedron II go suck your Nazi botox queens ass you piece of Spanish shit ARGENTINA ALWAYS THE FUCKING VICTIM
Aug 11th, 2015 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 025 PELOTUDO
Aug 12th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0GO BACK TO SCHOOL, YOU IGNORANT BENNY HILLBILLY
“INPLANTED”, SAYS THE EPITOME OF IGNORANCE...LOL
@paulcedron II And you go back to your street cleaning job you piece of dirt and yes get to grips with your own history a country of migrants no better than the people you hate on.
Aug 12th, 2015 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Aug 12th, 2015 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“i thought you already wore adult diapers”
No that' what Argy pilots call your jet trainer (first flew in the 1980s). You made more aircraft than now which means you are going backwards, and now the best one you make sounds like a pair of diapers.
Is it not true that all Argentine cars are built with 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear, in honour of your army?
#24 Apparently you didn't get the part about Gibralter being a favored destination for drug traffickers in the region for a LONG time. A recent study showed British citizens are the most avid drug abusers in Europe. Your children have government complicity to thank for that.
Aug 12th, 2015 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0History has everything to do with this because the Royal British charters have a long history of drug and human trafficking thatmcontinues to this day. Research the Opium Wars and you will see that what they did to China and India was monstrous. The Bank of England funded the Nazi Germany, and that knowñedge alone makes the entire WWII narrative false. It was Britain that created the mess in the Middle East, and despite pretense to the contrary, British oligarchs are responsible for placing and abandoning Israel under such hostile and offensive conditions.
Let's be perfectly honest, there are perhaps five nations in the world that have not been invaded by Britain. They haven't acted alone, but the actions of treasonous sock puppets are not the fault of the people. Gibralter is at the tip of the IBERIAN peninsula. The druids seem to really love their islands and peninsula's around the world. They have over 52 nations beholden to the queen.
Seriously people,
Aug 12th, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One really has to think –is there a legal dispute at all,
Or is it just a ruse and con trick,
And the UN should not even entertain these false claims from despot dictators without them taking legal action, rather than issuing a dispute to claim either sympathy or play the victim.
When a nation issues a legal dispute with the UN, then the UN should accept the dispute with the proviso that it will be legally settled within one year, by presenting your case to the ICJ,
And thus they will settle the dispute one way or another,
Any country refusing to follow up the registered dispute and fails to summit it case to the ICJ,
Then the case and the dispute will be cancelled full stop and no later dispute accepted
, end of.
Just my opinion.
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=29 - look at the date on your links, and go and read the CIA WorldBook.
Aug 12th, 2015 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And don't embarrass yourself further.
3 aussiesunshinee “.. you should read more History..” You certainly should, as Spain's declining the UK's offer to place the issue before the ICJ proves they have no claim.
Aug 13th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”..in November 1966 Spain accused Britain of “an act of aggression” by claiming to hold sovereign authority over part of the isthmus. Britain made the first of many subsequent proposals to test the validity of the respective claims to sovereignty at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), but Spain gave the first of its refusals on the grounds that consideration of legal titles to the territory was not relevant to decolonization, a point that Britain entirely rejected. ..“
Gibraltar at the United Nations: caught between a Treaty, the Charter and the ‘fundamentalism’ of the Special Committee
http://eprints.uwe.ac.uk/16386/
5 paulcedron II ”gibraltar does not have the entity to be partner with any sovereign country.” Prove it, or continue the fallacy of Ignoring the Burden of Proof and be shown as a proven liar.
The nation of Gibraltar is not free in any way shape or form. The British aristocrats don't even bother with pretense of free elections, or orchestrated revolutionary regime change.
Aug 13th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to Wikipedia, “The Chief Minister of Gibraltar is the head of Her Majesty's Government of Gibraltarwho is elected to the Gibraltar Parliament, and formally appointed by the Governor of Gibraltar, representative of the British Monarch. The incumbent Chief Minister is Fabian Picardo, since 9 December 2011, leader of the Gibraltar Socialist Labour Party.”
Treasonous leaders are installed around the world, and have been for centuries. The Treaty of Cairo is an example of what they did to the Middle East. Then you have the secretive and duplicitous Masonic organizations that provide a network of influence, and have sworn allegiance to another oligarch, Grand Master Duke of Kent. The mafioso criminal networks are a part of these networks.
I guarantee anyone that Hugo Swire is a Freemason. The past has everything to do with the present. Generational curses are real. I know many people who felt the need to receive healing masses for problems caused by Masonic influences in their family. Healing of Families, is another good book on generational curses. Innocent people pay for sins of the past. It is biblical. Actions have consequences always.
The book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group, by Daniel Estulin, clearly documents how powerful networks conspire in secret, for the benefit of a few international Oligarchs. Included in these networks are major media conglomerates around the world. They control the narrative. What we read, and are told, is controlled. The fact that the Bank of England funded Nazi Germany makes everything we thought to be true, a lie.
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Aug 13th, 2015 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Groups of powerful people rule the world....I think we already guessed that girl....
@33
Aug 14th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The nation of Gibraltar is not free in any way shape or form. The British aristocrats don't even bother with pretense of free elections, or orchestrated revolutionary regime change. ”
How do free elections tie in with revolutionary regime change?
What if the Gibraltarians don't want revolutionary change?
This is a wind up-right?
You then quote:
“According to Wikipedia, “The Chief Minister of Gibraltar is the head of Her Majesty's Government of Gibraltar who is elected to the Gibraltar Parliament,”
If there are no free elections in Gibraltar how is the Chief Minister elected then?
Can you provide evidence to support your argument, because what you state seems no more than fairyland political claptrap and gobbledegook with no basis to it whatsoever.
gothamgirl prove it,
Aug 14th, 2015 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or have it ignored.
The reason I say there is no pretense of free elections, is because the Gibralter government calls themselves, “Her Majesties Government”. For those of us who are not subjects, it sounds like blatant ownership. The constition of Ginraltar confirms that. The people of Gibralter don't want Spain, but they don't want the British either. They UN gave them a right to self determination. A press release from Her Majesty's Government. https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/new/press-releases
Aug 15th, 2015 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The “elected officials” can not make or pass laws on their own. It really is “Her Majesties Governmemt”.
Gibraltar's constition which is supposed to provide “Self Determination” for the people of Gibralter, but actually divides the political responsibilities of the Government of Gibraltar between those officials appointed by the British Government and those officials elected by the people of Gibraltar. Id. at 30-32. The Governor is appointed by the British Government. Id at 9.
As head of the executive, “The Governor retains responsibility for those matters which directly relate to external affairs, defence and internal security.” Id. at 32. The people of Gibraltar elect fifteen members to the House of Assembly. Id. at 32. “The Chief Minister is the elected member of the House [of Assembly] who, in the Governor's judgement, is most likely to obtain the greatest measure of confidence among the elected members.” Id. The Chief Minister serves on the Council of Ministers, which is responsible for decisions relating to defined domestic matters. Others who serve on the Council of Ministers “are appointed by the Governor after consultation with the Chief Minister.” Id. The House of Assembly elects a Mayor, who carries out ceremonial functions on behalf of Gibraltar. Id. The British Crown RETAINS THE RIGHT TO AMEND THE CONSTITION OF GIBRALTAR.
With regards to the revolutionary wars, I was assuming that people realize that they didn't happen organically and they have been funded by foreign interests.
Gothamgirl
Aug 15th, 2015 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is because the Gibraltar government calls themselves, “Her Majesties Government
=Nothing wrong with that interpretation,=
The people of Gibraltar don't want Spain, but they don't want the British either
-They voted to remain British, [and they have every right to vote to be Gibraltarian citizens if they like, seem fair is it not.
The “elected officials” can not make or pass laws on their own
- I think you will find that they can.
Gibraltar's constition
Let’s be fair here, what Gibraltar does or does not do, is absolutely nothing to do with Spain,
And if you agree on that, then you have no complaint whatsoever have you..
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@37
Aug 16th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The reason I say there is no pretense of free elections, is because the Gibralter government calls themselves, “Her Majesties Government”
So if people in Gibraltar are allowed to have a democratic vote-that doesn't count because the government is know as 'Her Majesty's Government?
Either they vote in elections or there is a dictatorship.
If as you say there are no elections,(I've found no hard evidence of that) so far, does that means Gibraltar is a dictatorship?
Does the Queen fly over to Gibraltar during elections and overlook all the Gibraltarians in the polling booths to ensure they do not vote how they wish?
Please, please, one of you Malvanistas mention the Chagos Islanders-because I have good news for you on their behalf!
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