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Falklands anticipate a busy cruise season with the return of Norwegian Line
The return of the Norwegian Cruise Line to South America this season with nine planned calls to the Falkland Islands “is a massive boost to our cruise ship industry,” Sulivan Shipping Tourism Coordinator Samantha Marsh told Penguin News this week. Read full article
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Aug 21st, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 When are you coming to the Falklands Pauly? You said you would be here in a couple of months about 6 months ago? Are you stupid? Are you too poor? Or are you waiting on funding and orders from your Peronist masters?
Aug 21st, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well,
Aug 21st, 2015 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am already booked to visit in February on the Sun with some friends. The main reason I picked Norwegian was because it did visit the Falklands and I am looking forward to it.
I may do the 6 hour trip to Cape Dolphin or perhaps do the battleground tour.
Yes, we will support the economy while there. I disagree the cruise industry is in crisis, all the big lines are building new vessels and there are more choices than ever.
@3 So you are a liar? Why say you would be coming here when you never had any intention? Actually no, you are a stupid liar lol
Aug 21st, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 BrianFI
Aug 21st, 2015 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He like a fly on a piece of dog manure - just keeps going round and round achieving nothing.
Falklands,
Aug 21st, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0more more more,
that's how we like it, that's how we like it
more more more,
Argetina
sob sob sob
no one likes us, no one likes us,
sob sob sob.
It very nice to see the substantial increase of several ships to the Falklands and I'm especially happy to see Punta Arenas is a prominent stop on most of the itineraries. (Voted as being a very pleasant stop by passengers.)
Aug 21st, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dearest Paulcedron imbecile, Chile is far superior to your feeble excuse of a failed nation. Mow get back to work on cleaning bedpans...
Pork Cedron whats all this ”Comment removed by editor”? I like Editors, great band, why are they trashing your pearls of wisdom?
Aug 21st, 2015 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands advances day by day, day by day things get worse in Argyland!
Why are top British bands avoiding RGland - they never get paid! You are off the list, no-one wants to come. Consigned to the dustbin. A member of the ARZ axis. Out in the cultural desert.
Got it?
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Aug 21st, 2015 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile has again become a welcoming and popular main attraction for the cruise industry after the national Congress passed a bill ending a ban on casino and gambling on board vessels while sailing in Chilean waters. Punta Arenas the hub of cruise activity in southern Chile will be visited this season by over 70 vessels with an estimated 72.000 visitors, according to local authorities which will directly and indirectly result in over 42 million Dollars income for the city's economy. Unlike the ports of call in Argentina, in Punta Arenas the tourists are safe, well treated and unmolested by scam artists. In the independent travel reviews you'll note all the very favorable comments posted.
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Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pork Cedron, I know members of both Editors and Joy Division and neither would agree with you. You are talking as a member of ARZ. As I said no-one wants to go to your sad country because you cant pay and your capacity to pay is gradually getting weaker and weaker and you are left with David Guetta, Nervo and other such dross. Here in civilisation we continually enjoy the cream of the worlds rock and alternative music at concerts and festivals which you are starved of. Our friends in Chile appreciate British music which you obviously have no knowledge of. Pitchfork wont come to your sad country because you cant pay.. Tosser..
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Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time at Pitchfork Barcelona last year pelotudo and later when we all went over to Porto for a few days relaxation. Just been at Paredes De Coura, and this weekend its Brecon. Where have you ever been, Disneyland in Orlando? And as for your American list it just reveals how totally out of date and unhip your country is if thats what your listening to on your wind up gramaphones.. Not surprising because in an ARZ country you are cut off.
Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Want to have some fun? Go to TripAdvisor and do a comparison of member comments about visiting Chile vs. Argentina...
Aug 21st, 2015 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile: clean, modern, friendly, polite, helpful and honest police. Excellent food, hotels, wine and infrastructure.
Argentina: rude people, dirty streets, corrupt, dangerous crime, run down infrastructure and full of rip off artists.
The Andes meanwhile have a very healthy snowpack.
Paulie- Why oh Why do you always burst into rant about topics you have no clue??!!
Aug 21st, 2015 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FACTS:
On average less than 10% of ships have to cancel Stanley because of the wind each summer.
Each Tourist automatically pays about £20 each to FIG through the ship ticket cost - towards customs,tourism handling facilities etc etc.
Onshore the average spend including tours they book is about US$75 per head.
When your silly Govt tried to make life difficult to large cruise vessels coming to Falklands and Ushuaia a couple of years ago - WHAT was the result? FACT- several very large cruise vessels DROPPED USHUAIA!
Get used to Facts in your little life please.
Oh - by the way - did you know well over 1000 plus Argentine citizens and their families visit the Islands every Jan-Feb on cruises. And they are welcome - and they spend US$ here and respect us and our laws.
… and Pork Cedron you can get Waitrose and M&S products in Stanley. But..you wont be able to afford them. Anyway you cant afford to visit. Ushuaia is a damp sad dump. Punta Arenas is welcoming with many interesting places to visit. Viva Chile!
Aug 21st, 2015 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we listen to Frank Zappa, Clutch, Paradise Lost, Damien Rice, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Zeppelin, Joy Division, The Pistols, The Treatment, Million Dollar Reload, Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, Courtney Pine, John Lee Hooker, Robert Johnson, Elgar, Sibelius, Sugarcubes, Sigur Ros, Pantera, Within Temptation, Lacuna Coil, Five Finger Death Punch, Maiden, Free, Minus The Bear, Matchbox 20, the list a loooooong.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0We love tourists - we don't steal from them, they add to our GDP, help keep inflation down, pay loads to travel around the Islands and have a great time!
When are you coming over Paulie? We'd love to meet you in the flesh.
I bet Pork Cedronhas never even heard of Sigur Ros Bahahaha! If you are a Falkland Islander you are plugged into rich British Music Culture, if you are in Argieland you get Jason Derulo and acts no one has ever heard of like that. You can clutch your surfboard to try to look cool as much as you like butcwhen its stained with turds it spoils the effect! You wont be at Brecon this weekend or Reading next, but Brits will, Falkland Islanders will be listening in too. Bahahahaha..
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does this mean that Cruise Liners like these will now be banned from Argentina and its territory, and have all its assets seized...lol
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trolls silent… stunned and tongue tied.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The stupidity of the Argentines has only helped Punta Arenas to become an excellent alternative for cruise vessel stops. It's been a win-win for us and loser-loser for the pathetic Argentines.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, we have in Punta Arenas the only modern world class advanced medical clinic in the region, INCLUDING a working SCANNER...
23 Chicureo- many Islanders have been there for treatment as well- First Class in all areas and services to Clinica Magallanes. A friend is over this week for a Scan.
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their Inernational Section is growing rapidly - with so many Argentines coming there from Rio Gallegos and Santa Cruz province for decent treatment- and a working scanner!
..and you can visit Magellans ship replica, Shackletons lifeboat and the folk museum and enjoy the many excellent cafes and the fantastic restaurant with the ceiling table. Viva Chile!
Aug 22nd, 2015 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hopefully these cruise ships will call at Punta del Este and/or Montevideo and skip Argentina entirely.
Aug 23rd, 2015 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0First, thanks for all the nice comments about PA. The old mansions are also a highlight to visit. The international scientific community generally far prefers PA over Argentina, because of corruption alone.
Aug 23rd, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know, it's really sad because Argentine doctors are normally very competent and 30 years ago, their clinics were superior to Chile's. Sophisticated equipment, especially Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) requires constant maintenance, which does not happen in Argentina, resulting in all the scanners south of BA out of service. What's more alarming is that normal Argentine lab tests are notoriously unreliable as well.
An added bonus is that Falklanders are exceptionally welcomed in PA. The bonds between the two islands is very close and I hope this continues to improve.
26 Ynsere- quite a few big vessels do start Buenos Aires(better Int flight connections) but then call at Montevideo anyway- some prefer to store and provision there as well- and there clear to the Falklands to dodge the political hassle.
Aug 23rd, 2015 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I picked Norwegian as it isn't going to Punta del Este and only spends one night in Buenos Aires and a day in Montevideo.
Aug 23rd, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I live in Uruguay and obviously wanted other stops. I may skip BA and board the second day straight from MVD.
We were shown Florence Dixies house and told her story, and I did notice that brand new hospital on the way to the open air museum which was dotted with British made machinery as well as having a very old map displayed clearly showing the Falkland Islands and not any sign of the mythical Malvinas.
Aug 23rd, 2015 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just got back from the Bird Fair at Rutland and the Falklands were well represented with three stands including one from the Malvina hotel. All three seemed to be doing a lot of business. In many of the talks, the Falklands came out as a “must see” experience. Not bad for a stinky dump with no high rise hotels or CT scanners.
Aug 24th, 2015 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina were also represented.
The Scottish stands were doing a roaring trade partly out of interest as a destination AND the supply of hospitality in the way of food (shortbread) and drink. Ice cold Cairngorm beer was welcome in an inside the tent temp. of 35°C and humidity about 90%. The biggest crowd was round the Islay and Jura tourist board stand where 8 Malt Whiskeys were being dispensed to all-comers.
Happy faces all round.
The French did themselves proud with a taste of France including pâtés, olives cakes, biscuits. However, they had forgotten a corkscrew ! I came to the rescue with my Swiss Army knife. For this act of chivalry, I was allowed frequent refills of some lovely wines. The rest I can't remember except I had to wait a while sobering up before I could drive back to the hotel !
Please return to the topic !
@27 Chicureo
Aug 24th, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“An added bonus is that Falklanders are exceptionally welcomed in PA. The bonds between the two islands is very close and I hope this continues to improve”
Looks like when I revisit the Falklands one day, I need to plan a trip to PA and see Chile. The parts of Chile shown on Top Gear looked out of this world.
Spoke to them once(P.A.) on the radio before they sent a flight over (DAP), when I was gleefully told (over the radio!) that Nimrods were refuelled there in 1982.
When the pilots came over, during a conversation, they told me that mainly Chileans worked in Patagonia as the conditions were too tough for Argentine workers who preferred the warmer climes of the north.
I have no idea if that was true, but that's what they said.
I said surely you are mates with Argentina?
They laughed.
dear brothers and sisters from the islets
Aug 24th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the thing is, my dear bennys, that nobody in the civilized world cares too much about cruise tourism.
1st because they are in complete crisis, so if you expect 60k tourists you will receive 6k.
second because none of them will remain too much time in the islets.
you know there are not too much things to do there.
now if we were talking about tierra del fuego, the thing would be completely different.
with 5 star hotels, ski resorts, heli skiing centres, glaciers, mountains, lakes, and very close to the antártida argentina, it is incomparable with the dear islets.
Clyde
Aug 24th, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like you had a great day!
Pete
The relations WILL continue to improve because many of the Chileans working in the Falklands are from PA and they are well treated, well paid and Chileans sympathize with Argentine bullying. (Argentines are not welcome to work in the Falklands for obvious reasons...)
I think also that Falklanders appreciate a close alternative for tourism and services. Chileans REALLY appreciate all the economic benefits from their relations with the Falklands.
Finally, my generation will never forget the near war the Argentines were planning against us in 1978.
¡Saludos!
Cruise industry sounds super cool indeed; hundreds and hundreds of folks eager to spend their money at every port they arrive. Not to mention they may become ` ambassadors and promoters ´ once they are back at home, telling others to visit the destinations they have met.
Aug 24th, 2015 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having said that, I simply can not measure the damage caused to our argentinian ports by certain insane regulations enacted recently, such as the retarded gaucho rivero law. What a shot in our own feet.
And let´s not forget the poor impression that we leave in people when they see how devastated this country is, while our chilean neighbors keep getting better and better. 40 years ago chile was a developing country which lacked almost anything compared to us. See where they are now: they jumped a century ahead of us.
What a wasted opportunity.
#35 SebaSvtz
Aug 24th, 2015 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I completely agree!
During the Allende years in Chile, we used to go to Mendoza to buy luxury goods, like toilet paper, cooking oil, canned ham, tomato paste and ALL the beef you wanted. (In Chile at that time we had to wait outside the supermarkets with ration books)
Argentines had those beautiful big Ford Falcons and great looking Fiat sedans. (sounds like a joke, but they really did look attractive in those days.) The packed steak houses and pizza parlors were on just about every block. People had money to spend. Argentina had excellent public hospitals, free university education and the girls were tall and striking...
Mendoza today is depressing. The wine industry is nearly completely bankrupted, unemployment, poverty, corrupt police and customs officials, ripoff specialists everywhere and no one wants to invest in the future.
Paulie- I do not dispute that Tierra del Fuego attracts a lot of tourists - and it is a lot bigger than the islands.
Aug 26th, 2015 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0But - FACTS are as follows:
The Islands receive 1200-1500 tourists each summer who come here for 7-14 days touring around the Islands wildlife centres, stopping in comfortable lodge hotels and visiting battlefield sites if they are interested in that.
Each one of these tourists puts about $2500 directly into the Islands economy - so about 3.5 million US$ - apart from their airfares that go to Lan or the RAF if direct from UK.
Each cruise ship tourist who comes for 4 - 12 hours on a day pays $30 to the islands just to get off their ship towards port services etc. Then as said before - they spend a good average ashore on tours-meals-drinks-souvenirs etc.
We loose a few ships to bad weather - about 10% of numbers on average - so if 60,000 is potential estimate - we would expect to receive 54,000
ashore - where do you get your 6,000 from??
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