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Falklands' air defenses bolstered with Saab-built Giraffe AMB radars

Tuesday, August 25th 2015 - 20:31 UTC
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Britain has ordered additional Saab-built Giraffe AMB radars to bolster ground-based air defenses on the Falkland Islands against a possible future threat from Argentina, reports Defense News. The Swedish company announced on 24 August that it had received an order valued at 610 Swedish krona million ($74 million dollars) from the UK Ministry of Defense for the supply of new radars and the upgrade of existing systems. Read full article

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  • toooldtodieyoung

    The Swedish company specifically mentioned a future capability to spot small unmanned air systems while screening out difficult radar clutter such as birds.

    Good idea to have that, IF you were to operate the radar in an area where there was known to be lots of birds.

    Wait for the screaming and wailing and the “Britain militarizing the south Atlantic....Wah, wah, wah!!! Call the UN!!!”

    Part of the planned military spending we already told you about biatches!! Deal with it.

    Aug 25th, 2015 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porto Margaret

    Giraffes in the Falkland Islands.

    #1
    When the squealing starts again and it will. We can happily refer them to your comment.

    Aug 25th, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    What a cheek...they've got some neck on them....

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    How sad that Argentina makes this expenditure necessary. The money could have been donated to susbsidise housing for its poor.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    The money could have been donated to susbsidise housing for its poor.

    The Soup Kitchen


    Helping the Homeless and Marginally Homeless* in Central London

    http://amchurch.co.uk/soup-kitchen/

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Marcos yattering again.

    Yeah, we dealt with your diversion ages ago...

    You are too late, too out of touch...

    Yawn... what a dummy.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @5 Marquitos Alejandrito

    Your juvenile comments are not welcome here.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    The whole point of the garrison at MPA is too make any surprise attack by Argentina impossible.
    Argentina has proved by its actions its untrustworthy and potentially unstable.
    Making it impossible to try some armed stunt on the Falklands is cheaper than having to fight Argentina.
    It also keeps Argentina nationalism at bay.

    personally I think we should place one onhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_de_los_Estados or as I like to call it Very West Falkland :)

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Don't know about filtering out those birds.... KFC reckons they are Argentinian.... probably 5th Columnists.....

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    As we write, the argie public service is scouring the globe to find an aircraft charter firm that is willing to risk the lease a jet so that hectoring hector can huff off to the UN to complain. Like a burgular going to the police to complain that his victim has strengthed security around his home.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @4 Poor people in Argentine wouln¿d get the money anyway...it would end at CFK, and other fascist, wallets

    U$D 431.6 million in radar systems?...this is around U$D 200.000 per islander....wow...what a bargain !!!.....british taxpayer must be very happy to have their money wasted in such a way.

    As a british journalist once wrote: “The Islands are a white elephant in the middle of the Ocean”....

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Caledon

    RAF upgrade Ground Based Air Defence Radar.Well hold me back.....

    And on that bombshell......Cue apoplectic knicker wetting from KFC .

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CJvR

    Nice to see good old Swedish steel contributing to peace and security against imperial adventurism.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @11
    ....and worth every penny pgerman. As the Korean memorial in Washington DC says, “Freedom is not free”.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    “U$D 431.6 million in radar systems?...this is around U$D 200.000 per islander....wow...what a bargain !!!.....british taxpayer must be very happy to have their money wasted in such a way.”

    Perhaps it is because I don't have an Argentinean education like pgerman, but where did he get that figure from?

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @11 pgerman

    You had better have a word with whoever wrote your script as the cost of these new systems is US$74 million as stated above in the header and as stated in the SAAB press release.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    We just had an incident in Valparaiso where an unauthorized drone was observed photographing la Esmeralda docked in harbor. Quick thinking sailors used a high pressure firehose to bring it down and after an investigation, the operator was a Swedish tourist who was detained for extensive interrogation before being eventually released.

    The event has raised the issue of the need for installation of highly sensitive medium range 3-D radar systems to protect government facilities against new technology.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @11 pgerman
    That is a strange way to view the matter. If my government puts a radar on the northern border with Peru, or on Easter Island, or in Puerto Williams do we view the cost as $ X million per inhabitant of the nearest village to the installation? No, of course not. The defense of our national integrity is a burden that falls on the whole nation.

    As a general point: one of the nice things about these units is that they are mobile, so they can be redeployed anywhere.

    More general: Brits, are there no domestic manufacturers of such technology?

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    “As a british journalist once wrote: “The Islands are a white elephant in the middle of the Ocean”....”
    And the Argies are the ivory poachers.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Yeah well...I ask myself the question...Is this system to protect me? Is it to protect where I live? ...Will my friends and family exist safely without it...?
    Then the more important question springs to mind...then why the fcuk am I paying for it....and more importantly why aren't they....
    If your island and community can't afford to exist where you are....then move, don't expect others to pay....
    Now there's simple logic and reasoning for you...

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #18 Condorito

    Actually la Armada de Chile has been studying the feasibility of upgrading to the UK BAE Systems Artisan (Advanced Radar Target Indication Situational Awareness and Navigation) 3D radar, which is being used currently in the Royal Navy. There are several alternatives.

    #20 Voice

    There has already been an unacceptably high price of “blood and treasure” sacrificed to protect the peaceful and isolated islanders. Defense is the expenditure to secure that it doesn't happen again.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @20

    Well Voicey I guess that that is the difference between the Brits and the Argentines. The Brits are prepared to help people without direct benefit to themselves whereas for Argentines it's me, me, me, me.

    Now there's simple logic and reasoning for you...

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    pgerman and voice- All British military hardware based in the Falklands is 2movable2 - Should there be a high threat to the UK itself no doubt some of these mobile radars would be recalled - just like out heavy lift helicopter was some years ago for Afghanistan use.
    Just as the Eurofighters can be if really needed.

    You do some silly mathematics - why don't you divide the £1billion cost of a type 45 destroyer by us 3000 population next time one is here for a few months?

    All UK Military equipment is part of UK British Forces - and is deployed wherever the elected UK Govt wants it to be.

    Got it?

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @11 pgerman

    Your maths is crap. Your reading comprehension is shocking. Go back to school.

    Since you are worried about us poor UK taxpayers let's show you the correct costs.

    $74,000,000

    Now divide that by the population of the UK which in 2013 was 64,100,000. This means that each UK citizen pays...just over $1 each. In real money that is £0.64 or 64 pence each.

    And the radar systems aren't just for the Falklands, they're for use to defend the UK in general, so as a British taxpayer I believe that it is money very, very well spent.

    The fact that it annoys YOU so much is just the icing on the cake.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11. You don't seem to have much in the way of comprehension. The British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983 granted British citizenship to residents of the British Falkland Islands. Indicating a different status before. But NOW they are OURS. And WE will defend THEM. Whatever it takes. US$431.6 million for radar systems? Part of the UK's defence budget? Then it's only a little over US$6 per person in the UK. Is that all? I'm a British taxpayer. They can have 3, 4 or 5 times as much and I wouldn't be bothered. I'll be glad to pay an extra US$25 a year to know that OUR people are being protected.

    The only thing that I insist on is that, once the radars are in place and operational, any remaining money is used to provide missiles that can be used to hit every argie population centre. We can be kind about that. No nukes. Just the largest conventional warhead we can pack on. The old german V-1 used to carry a ton of explosives. Let's try for 5 tons per missile. Perhaps if we could launch 100 5-ton missiles on Buenos Aires. Then we could move on to other population centres. The “aim” should be to launch missiles of sufficient size in the smallest time period that corpses, ruins and wreckage are thrown into the area and shredded. Argie meat can be made into sausages and sold to whatever exists in Gaza.
    @20. Yeah, but then you're something 3rd rate that happens, for the time being, to occupy a tiny part of the British Isles. In certain quarters, there are suggestions that individuals such as yourself should be rounded up by the British Army, under martial law and moved to your place of ethnic origin. The Irish Republic. Leaving the northern part of the BRITISH Isles to be settled by those British that aren't traitorous. Try some reality. For more than 300 years, we haven't needed you. And we don't want you either. Face reality. Go peacefully or get shot.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    There is little doubt that the Falklands are going to become the next full field firing range for the heavy elements of the British Armed Forces given the severe shortage of ground in the UK.

    The Giraffe system will be used to train these forces as well as defend the islands.

    Looks like good value for money and it helps detect the argies trying to sneak up on the islands. I suspect this system will be able to detect the crap coming out of their trousers whilst they are on the way over!

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #26 Chris

    Instead of disturbing all the Penguins frolicking in the Falklands, why not establish the next full field firing range for the heavy elements of the British Armed Forces in the hills overlooking Ushuaia.

    There would be a number of advantages: 1. Realistic building targets are already constructed. 2. Interactive enemy artillery, seaborne and airborne would be provided by the Argentines at no cost. 3. Your troops would not get bored, but at the same time in minimal danger. 4. The FI would be close by for R&R and staging. 5. Falklands Penguins would be left un disturbed by loud explosions. 6. Argentine diplomatic negotiators would get a clearer understanding of Britons resolve to support the Falklanders. 7. News ratings for Chilean national evening news would skyrocket.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 27 Chicureo

    What an excellent suggestion!

    :o)

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @27

    I would say no for several reasons:

    1) They may get a little bit confused. Remember that the last time they wanted to attacked “the continent” they were discovered well in advance, get lost, had to destroy the helicopter and be rescued by chilean people.

    2) There are lots of chilean people living and working in Ushuaia. They run their own business and are hard and honest workers. Unlike you they had to work to survive.

    3) Any british aking part of in the argentine territory won't give you, or other fascist chilean, any chance of taking what doesn't belong to you. Simply because all of us, even the islanders, know that chilean militars are good only to kill unarmed civilians.

    Keep trying !!!

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @29
    “chilean militars are good only to kill unarmed civilians”

    Chilean disappeared 1973 - 1989: approx 2.200
    Argie disappeared 1975 - 1978: approx 22.000

    So on a yearly basis ... 7.000 / year vs 130 / year
    130/year that is a fraction of the Argie homicide rate in times of democracy.

    All that killing and they didn't even eliminate the cancer.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Hello... there must have been a shift change - suddenly pgerman can't write in English!!!!

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @20 voice

    “Yeah well...I ask myself the question...Is this system to protect me? Is it to protect where I live? ...Will my friends and family exist safely without it...?
    Then the more important question springs to mind...then why the fcuk am I paying for it....and more importantly why aren't they....
    If your island and community can't afford to exist where you are....then move, don't expect others to pay....
    Now there's simple logic and reasoning for you...”

    Simple? yeah, sure is...

    The ridiculous selfish simple deflection of wee voice.

    Can Dunoon afford to defend itself?

    Will the death of a curmudgeonly bitter Troll in an isolated obscure village make any difference to me or my loved ones??

    Of course not.

    Why should he be defended? :-(

    Defenders for the Nation and the Nation's interests.

    Don't like it - use your vote.

    Tell your neighbours - see what they think of you...

    if you even live in Scotland.

    Aug 26th, 2015 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    22
    Not really your concern you are neither a Brit or pay UK taxes...
    In fact as I recall...correct me if I'm wrong. but didn't your lot spend a lot of their time killing Brits....
    Strange to be now singing their praises....
    32
    “Can Dunoon afford to defend itself”
    It pays UK taxes that pays for it's defence....Doh!
    Do they.....no they don't....
    You appear to have missed the whole point of my post...
    “if you even live in Scotland”....how stupid are you...I post two pictures of Artful doing it's sea trials in the Clyde..it's just got here....
    Do you see any other pics of Artful doing sea trials anywhere on the internet...Doh!

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    33 curmudgeon

    Hi ho, you're at it again, defences are not confined to the island of Great Britain, nor is it up to you whether it is the best interests of Britain to defend assets overseas - stupid old git!

    Me me me... you sound Argentinian.

    If you live in Dunoon, you're a completely different breed of Scotsman than Logey Baird and others that actually contributed to their society.

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #29 pgerman

    You assume the UK would act how the military brutes of your armed forces criminally acted in 1982, but frankly the British are so polite and apologetic than when they would start areal bombardment of any given area of Ushuaia, they'd earlier advise the inhabitants with notices such as:

    “We regret to inform residents of the area that next Thursday, the 7th at precisely 7 o'clock in the morning heavy bombardment of the southern Pedro Garcia dockyards and warehouses will commence and are scheduled to permanently cease at Noon. The HRM Government apologizes for any inconveniences that may be incurred. Have a nice day.”

    Anyway, destroying about half of Ushuaia's decaying rat infested derelict run down buildings would be a boom for the urban renewal of the city.

    As an added bonus, you could tape the highlights of the destruction, have an enthusiastic Jeremy Clarkson narrate the fun and syndicate the program worldwide. (Jeremy would enjoy it greatly!). It would also be a tremendous hit here in Chile!

    As far as Chileans wanting any part of Argentine Patagonia: NO THANKS! All you'd do afterwards is for the next century would be to constantly cry, whimper, complain, whine and stomp your feet about the loss of your national God given patrimony. (You people need to “man up” about the Falklands. Sheesh, what a bunch of babies!)

    Condorito has already exposed your hypocrisy regarding civilian murders during the dirty war, but I would add that the Chileans also didn't steal countless newborn babies before murdering their mothers like the Argentines.

    Finally, questioning my work ethic is hilarious. Naval salaries are a pittance and The only way I was fortunate to support my comfortable lifestyle was to manage my family farming operations as well as marketing in the agricultural sector. Vacations consisted working on the farm until I joined the active Naval reserves.

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @30

    Condorito, based on your writings and sayings you are a honest chilean person making your living in the FI. Your figures about killed civilians in both countries are wrong.

    Anyway, don't make the mistake of defending criminals. I don't defend the argentine killers at all. I'm just giving my respect to those who, manly fighting against the third militar power of its time, with extremely limited material and resources, caused them harm. We cannot say the same about chilean military.

    Condorito honor and respect is born from hard working and honesty. Having you on the same side of Chicureo is a mistake from you. He is the typical “goody goody”, “apple polisher” (a “lame-culos”). He is clearly a looser with no self esteem that always lived without working from your fellow countrymen work and taxes. His Pinochet's defense is more than enough to know whom he is.

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Condorito's figures are wrong....

    Pot
    Kettle
    Black

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #36 pgerman

    Although I don't think he makes his living in the FI, Condorito, impresses me as well as being an honest Chilean. His “figures about killed civilians in both countries” are internationally recognized and a a sad reflection of an unfortunate period of history.

    A point of clarification: Persons born on the EAST side of the Andes are born losers. My birth occurred on the WEST side of the Andes. I am a born winner.

    ¡Viva Chile!

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @33 Voicey

    “Not really your concern you are neither a Brit or pay UK taxes...
    In fact as I recall...correct me if I'm wrong. but didn't your lot spend a lot of their time killing Brits....”

    but then neither are you a Brit or a British taxpayer for all your claims to live in Scotland. As for the past and the War of Independence was nearly a century ago, get over it and try growing up.

    You are just confirming what I said with you Argentines it's all me, me, me, me

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Astute Sub. No. 3 should be sent to the peaceful South Atlantic for “sea trials.”

    Philippe

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Philippe

    Excellent idea!

    It would be an excellent opportunity for the ARA to send out their fleet and chase the intruder away...

    Of course there might be a small problem as about 80% of the registered active vessels are no longer seaworthy enough to leave harbor...

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @40

    I totally agree with you but I also would like to see the whole RN in the South Atlantic Ocean spending money and wasting fuel. And I also would like to see more than just four Typhoons deployed in the FI. 18 or 40 might be the right number. The funds are from the UK so they can waste their money as their wish after all...

    May be some of the “hardliners” that write posts here can donate some of their money to increase the garrison. Remember taxes are mandatory but donations are volutary.

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @42 pgerman

    Unlike you the British public aren't obsessed with money. You can't put a price on freedom.

    I've told you that before, but you can't understand that.

    The UK isn't wasting money defending the people of the Falklands from Argentina's illegal Imperialist Colonial ambitions.

    The Argentine government is, however, wasting millions of dollars that Argentina hasn't got buying adverts in papers, and sending corrupt politicians around the world to beg, crawl, and humiliate Argentina, all for a few empty words that don't even support the Argentine position.

    Poor pgerman. Isn't it a good job that you live in Canada, with a decent government, and a country that isn't about to disappear up its own hoop? Isn't it a good job that you live in a country that isn't systematically murdering the last few remaining indigenous inhabitants?

    Your impotence is amusing though. Your impotence when you know when Argentina will never get the Falklands and it's killing you.

    And just to think all that for a one off payment of 64 pence! What a bargain for the UK taxpayer!

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Speaking of a government wasting defense funds...

    Argentina has a scandoulous long and very well documented history of siphoning off funds destined for the military and ending up instead in the pockets of Peronist politicians. The ARA is a perfect example. Perhaps as much as 100 million Dollars destined for repairs of its Antarctic icebreaker* has been stolen. Same goes for a number of other vessels that are crippled and unable to leave port. ANYONE that has had dealings with Argentina has their own personal story about dealing with corruption there.

    *Similar situation took place in the mid-80's when their aircraft carrier was in port for repairs (supposedly to sell to the Brazilian Navy.). The old carrier was eventually scrapped and the funds pocketed by the politicians.

    Aug 27th, 2015 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #33
    Have a look at these

    http://dougie-coull-photography.blogspot.co.uk/

    Aug 28th, 2015 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 45 Clyde15

    Excellent photography. :o)

    Aug 28th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    History proves that no one should trust Argentina, so this is a wise move by the United Kingdom. After all, that silly old man in the Vatican has done his best to foment a military conflict over the Falklands. We have to be ready to defend our kith and kin again.

    Aug 28th, 2015 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    45
    Ever so slightly better pictures than mine...
    To be fair I was grabbing a coffee in Kirn when I saw Artful passing by and only had my phone on hand...
    Though there's no denying the guy can take a canny picture...

    Aug 28th, 2015 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    45 Clyde15 (#)

    Nice photos, it looks like a very diverse and interesting part of Scotland. The flowers in the first photo look a lot like the Kangaroo Paw, these flowers grow in the south West of Western Australia and start to appear about now (spring).

    Aug 29th, 2015 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #49
    The red flowers are Crocosmia-(Montbretia) - a South African bulbous flower which does rather well in the west of Scotland. Someone has dug them up from their garden and planted them there. They are extremely tough and invasive and can choke a garden in 5 years. My wife and I spent a day last week trying to clear them out of our garden and managed to fill two wheelie bins with them.
    The castle in the picture was built in 1360 by the Boyd clan and in it's earlier days was probably used for “piracy” against any ships coming up the Clyde.
    Prior to that, there were fortifications going back to the bronze age.
    At one end of the spectrum you have the historical importance of the area while 1 mile North you have one of the first nuclear power stations in the UK.
    Further up the coast at Largs,there was a battle between the Norse Vikings under King Haakon and the Scots under King Alexander. This led to a final Scottish victory and the withdrawal of the Vikings from the area.

    Aug 29th, 2015 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @50 Clyde

    Great pics Clyde.

    Reminds me of a night out I had with my ex-RAF reserve buddies sampling the different whiskys. Pity I can't find Glencoyne in England.

    Montbretia is great on my place as I need stuff that grows through the grass spreading from the fields -so not a horticultural wonderland-more survival of the fittest.

    Thanks for the interesting history@50

    Aug 29th, 2015 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #51
    I had a spell working at the distillery in about 1963. It was bought over and fell into a decline but has now been rejuvenated with much increased production.
    It doesn't use peat in the drying process but uses warm air. This gives the whisky a “purer” flavour as opposed to the standard peaty malts. They are also distinctive in that they use golden promise barley which adds to the flavour.
    The distillery is in an attractive location at the foot Dumgoyne hill in the Campsie Fells and always seems to be busy with tourists as it is on the road to Aberfoyle, in the Trossachs---Rob Roy country .

    Aug 29th, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @52

    Thanks Clyde for the info No one, but no one has ever known what I was talking about when mentioning Glencoyne.I remember it as being a' non peat', whisky-very sweet and now I know why.

    Must visit to get some whiskeys one day-but coming up is elderberry season for making home made wine and crab apple cider for 25p a bottle.

    Aug 30th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #53
    I have been watching our local crop of sloe berries nicely ripening. With above average rainfall this summer they are swelling nicely and should make some nice sloe gin/vodka.

    It's actually Glengoyne not Glencoyne.
    Another very similar whisky is Auchentoshan which does not use peat in the drying process. This whisky is produced in pot stills by triple distillation and has won many accolades. It has received many accolades.
    I also worked regularly in this distillery in the 1960's and remember that it still used an old steam engine from about the mid 1800's to mash the barley.

    Aug 30th, 2015 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @54 Clyde

    The search for Glencoyne continues. though I'll get some Glengoyne to try.

    Lots of sloe berries here. A land agent told me to grub out all the blackthorn growing into some of the fields as it 'took up too much grass'. I'm glad I didn't as I will eventually be paid more for some of the blackthorn to make walking sticks...and there's the berries.

    Good luck with your sloe gin/vodka

    The countryside has some amazing stuff growing, like Fat Hen which in addition of going to the hens is pleasant to eat. Young nettles need steaming, and the sheep's sorrel is a free addition to salads.

    One thing I haven't got which you might find in Scotland is the Black Crowberry-I used to enjoy seeing (and eating)the Red Crowberry (Diddle Dee),in the Falklands, mile upon mile of it.

    Aug 31st, 2015 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    So, how will the purchase of military equipment prevent the return of the Malvinas within the next 25 years?

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    56 “Hepatia”

    now you're just being stupid...

    YOU tell us - how do you think?

    What's a “Malvinas”???

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #56
    Not thinking it through are you.

    Argentina's only chance of getting the Falklands is by overwhelming military force.
    Tried once and failed.

    Military defensive force on the Falklands will ensure that this will not happen again.

    Easy to understand by any reasonably bright person.

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ezekielman

    56 Hepatia
    Our military power will stop Argentina launching a cowardly invasion again. As for the “25 years”, why only 25, why not 5? Reminds me of Hitler's boast about creating a 1,000-year Reich. Just look what happened to him and his dictatorship. No, every intelligent, sensible person recognises Argentina's delusion and illusion that it has some obscure claim to the Falklands. The islands are British and will remain so for ever. President Corruptina Kirchner, her little dwarf and foreign minister Hector Timerman and the comically named minister for Falklands affairs, Daniel Filmus, can rest assured that long after they are dead and buried the Falkland Islanders will be living happily and prosperously under the British flag.

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Sometimes I think the best course in the médium term for the islanders would be to become a fully-fledged independent nation while retaining close ties to Britain, If the Falklands' oil production is profitable, Argentine harrassment will only increase.

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    58 Clyde15

    “Argentina's only chance of getting the Falklands is by overwhelming military force. Tried once and failed.”

    Massive FAIL

    Does argentina even possess an “overwhelming military force” these days? I don't think that they could get to the Falkland Islands, let alone land on them.

    Could their Navy muster up enough floatable ships for the journey?

    Sep 01st, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @60 ynsere

    I agree-it worked for Belize.

    Although it is up to the Islanders, it would defuse the 'UK is 8000 miles away argument' even though the proximity/lack of proximity argument is a weak one.

    Following on from that:

    I don't buy the 'Islanders should pay for all their defences' argument as I doubt Sierra Leone reimbursed the MOD for their liberation, similarly with the Gambia in the 1980s (saved by the SAS), and did Belize reimburse the MOD for being defended against Guatemala?

    Personally, I think Falkland Isazwzslands independence would be a huge punch in the guts for Argentina-they would then risk worldwide condemnation if they invaded an independent country.

    If Corbyn attained power and started ignoring the Islanders, a declaration of independence would soon force him to lose his lunch, especially if the Islanders removed their trade with the UK and buddied up with Canada.

    Sep 02nd, 2015 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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