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Lula da Silva campaigns for Scioli and is full of praise for Cristina Fernandez and the 'K' model

Thursday, September 10th 2015 - 08:33 UTC
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Brazil's popular but scandal-weary former leader Lula da Silva endorsed Argentina's ruling party presidential candidate on Wednesday, identifying Daniel Scioli's credentials with the political left, and hoping the current project “that began in 2003 is re-elected”. The former president was also full of praise for president Cristina Fernandez. Read full article

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  • ElaineB

    The common phrase around Argentina in relation to the K's is 'The Stolen Decade'.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Why do they keep refering to it as a “model”?

    All she's done is lurched from one shambles to the next. I'd like to see somebody write down what this “model” is supposed to be.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2. I thought it was “presidential theft and murder”.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    And in her theatrical speech, la cretina criticized the European countries for the little boy on the beach saying she didn't want any dying children in Argentina. Totally ignoring the news of the day that a young Qom boy of 14 died of malnutrition and tuberculosis. And he weighed 11...countem'....kilos.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @4 Are your newspapers able to post photos of him? Maybe side by side with the photo CFK is talking about?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    There is an old saying “it takes one to know one”.

    The Chief Crook of Brazil, Lula, is positively salivating whilst he looks at TMBOA. She could suck him up and blow him out in bubbles.

    I bet DumbAss Dilma is fuming she wasn't asked to attend. Somebody has to stay and keep the Policia at bay! Ha, ha, ha.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Lula and Cristina represent a new model politicians that are the nightmare of those who kept Latin America as a backward sub-continent for more than a century.
    Of course, the “real power” of the multinationals and their domestic allies are working full time to try and make both Brasil and Argentina's models as failures so they can reinstate their backward systems again.
    They have an uphill battle indeed.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @7 You are really out of touch.

    There may have been a US policy to stop communism spreading in South America but the only people keeping South American countries backward were/are the governments in power.

    How do you explain that Argentina was one of the richest countries until they chose to elect a succession of thieving Presidents? They are entirely responsible for taking their populations backwards. Look what Chavez did to Venezuela. Look what the K's have done to Argentina. They have set them back decades.

    When are you going to buy that plane ticket and witness the truth for yourself?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #7 Quique, are you basing that on personal experience? When you walk down the streets in the cities and if you have the balls to do the same in the suburbs, you believe Argentina is better now then say, 20 years ago? Tell me and us the it is like shopping in Argentina. Quique, tell us what the shelves looks like?

    Quique, now multinational has to work to make Argentina and Brazil look like failures. They both have corrupt and incompetent leaders working diligently on that task.

    You know your problem Quique? You are a socialist who cannot live under socialism so you moved to Alberta. But you will be so proud to be buried in Argentina.......such a brave man of solid convictions.

    GO HOME QUIQUE!!!

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diefra

    7 Enrique : Do you live in Argentina?

    First: Brazilian s economy i so far better than Arg.

    What this model represents? narcos, drugs , violence , inflation , poors.

    I work in a compny that import spares parts and the government suggest me that if we want to get U$S for import I need to export something to compesate the U$S that i need. So I exported wine , fish ,and of course paying and expensive & unprofitable fee to an other company for do it, I try to export my mother in law but i Couldn t.

    This situation happens due to Arg lost reserves in our Central Bank, everybody transferred there savings to another place, and of course nobody invest in this country .

    So I invite you to invest in Arg due to support in this model.

    This 70 th left wins ideas are anachronic . Neither Russia nor China applies this idea.

    Of course I respect all ideas posted in this site

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Diefra,

    Enrique does NOT live in Argentina- he was either expelled or ran away from Argentina in the '70's or '80's.

    Enrique lives in a small town in Alberta Canada, near the oil-rich city of Calgary.

    He has raised his family in Canada or possibly Europe.

    You can speak to him on Facebook - his posts are mostly in Spanish.

    He has it very good in Canada, Rule of Law, socialized medicine and more social programs than the U.S.

    Where is Maximo K, the Saviour of Kirchnerism??

    Is he not running anymore?!

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Reeeekie go home!

    Viva la K-swine!

    Perronistas in perpetuity!

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    @Diefra The mother-in-law comment was hilarious.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diefra

    13 jakesnake
    Ha , globalization allows me to export every products but it s dont so fool at all

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    “Lula da Silva campaigns for Scioli and is full of praise for Cristina Fernandez and the 'K' model”

    Kiss of Death?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    # 7 Quique, we all seem to agree that you should really return home. Why do you NOT return to the promised land you highly speak of?

    Funny KFC is begging Lulu to help Argentina get in the BRICS. Apparently the economic conditions are not bad enough......the BRICS will help complete the destruction.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @7 Reekie
    You insist on how wonderful Lulla and CFK are, yet you don't live in either Brazil or Argentina, and 'think' you know what' going on here. You don't.

    If you really believe they “represent a new model politicians that are the nightmare of those who kept Latin America as a backward sub-continent for more than a century”, why do you remain in Canada ?
    Why submit yourself to so much social injustice in North America when you could enjoy an opulent life in Latin America. On the way down, suggest you take a stop and spend a few weeks in VZ.....

    I would appreciate an answer - one that makes sense.

    @10 Diefra
    “I try to export my mother in law but i Couldn't””
    All depends on the NBM (Customs) classification ; If she looks anything like Luiza Brunet, I might be able to find a buyer who could smuggle her out....

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (10) diefra

    Dear compatriota...

    El Sr. Enrique Massot does not live in Argentina..., but I do and I wish to, respectfully, answer some of your postulates...

    You say...:
    “Brazilian s economy is so far better than Argentina's”
    I say...:
    No exageremos, pebete... Leiste los diarios ultimamente...? Mirá el Riesgo País, mirá...

    You say...:
    “What this model represent? Narcos, drugs , violence , inflation , poors?”
    I say...:
    Nope, narcos, drugs, violence, inflation, (corruption N.A.) and poors“ have always existed and would and will still exist under any other ”Modelo“..
    What this ”Modelo” represents is a very clear improvement since they were elected in 2003 when unemployment was close to 50%.., when our foreign debt was close to 200% of our GNP..., when some 4 million pensioners were given miserable 80 U$S a month and some other 3 million elders where completely excluded from the pension system..., when the AUH was just a dream in some old geezers heads like mine..., y páro de contar...

    Word of advice from a poor ol' Patagonian devil qué más sabe por viejo qué por diablo...
    Who do you THINK your wife will resemble in 30 years time? ;-(

    Saludos cordiales desde el sudoeste del Chubut
    El Think

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Where's Yankeeboy these days?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    diefra,

    Do not believe anything “Think” says.

    He has been caught lying several times.

    He does NOT live in Argentina- he knows nothing about daily life of today's Argentine people.

    “Think” is just one of the names he uses on this forum.

    We have exposed him for using 2 other names at the same time in the past - “Surfer” - no country specified, and “Dove Over Dover” - pretending to be an English-hating Scotsman, retired from the Royal Navy and living in England.

    It is believed that he is also “Voice” and perhaps a few others.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diefra

    18 Think : Dear countryman (compatriota)

    No, I don t agree with you in some affirmation that you said.

    Brasil become in recession last year but is so far is the 1 st country to recieve foreign investment, perhaps today lost the investment grade but in comparisson with Arg , in footbal terms , Brasil plays in champions league

    Yes narcos etc became with Menem s president other peronist gov, but increase nowadays included crimes, Perhaps in Chubut not (quite place) but Bs As is different
    Your comparisson with 2001 and 2002 is irrelevant. We can not compare with the worst economic period in Argentina . Kirchner receive with dirty s job done , devaluation etc, and since 2003 up to 2012 was the highers price commodities period than ever has, so it is impossible to fail . Look at our neighbors reserves and look ours and we lost 100 billion U$S at least

    So when the next economy minister open the door of our Central Bank he will find a beautifull CKF photo with the leyend “ hasta la vista baby”

    As ever said in other post I respect all ideas and comments

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @20 Should I mention Think's hobbies and habits?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    These two women will be friends to the very end,

    you jump-
    no
    you jump,
    no,

    ok we will both jump to Armageddon together...

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (21) diefra

    Mi nunca bien ponderado compatriota...

    We can use Fulbo analogies if that's what you want...

    Brasil may be Champions League material... but Argentina is like RIBER...
    We had some minor slips in the past but miranos ahora pibe :-)))

    Buenos Aires is and was ALWAYS different, botija...
    Te lo dice un viejo parroquiano de San Benito Abad, te lo dice...

    My comparison with the situation in 2003 is all but irrelevant...
    Is there where the “Modelo” you so much dislike was born...
    In a morally, economically and socially almost disintegrated Country...
    Quiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite different from the Country I see today.

    So when the next economy minister open the door of our Central Bank he will find a beautifull CKF photo with the legend “Keep the good work, baby ”

    Por lo menos así lo veo yo...
    (Como decia Guillermo Nimo)

    As ever said in other post I respect all ideas and comments

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Lula is the eternal ignoramus who thinks he impresses people. In fact he does - by his stupidity and rancorous speech against the “elite”, which ironically he has 'stolen' his way into but keeps on criticizing.

    Getting sick of his ridiculous soccer analogies, such as ”the only thing that separates us is whether Maradona is better than Pelé, or if Messi is better than Neymar”. Repetitive and boring. It is about all he knows how to do, other than try to throw one social class against the other, by his hate speeches, which gain him support from the mass of ignorant idiots like himself.

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    #5 Elaine...the picture of the Qom boy was carried in losandes.com.ar and mdzol.com
    It was also shown on TV news....nobody has shown them side by side...yet?...or too afraid of la presidenta?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    21 diefra,

    Good post - interesting to hear your impressions.

    “So when the next economy minister open the door of our Central Bank he will find a beautifull CKF photo with the leyend “ hasta la vista baby!” “

    LOL, very funny.

    Lets see what else ”Think” says, and see if you agree with him :-)

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Ah! El Stink! How is the Combined Services these days Big Mac?

    Expert on Brazilians now? Sniffed around any lately?

    Sep 10th, 2015 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I would just like to point out that the National Minimum Wage - Monthly, in Venezuela is about US$40.
    So that means pretty much everybody.

    How they must dream of being a pensioner in Argentina in 2003 (when some 4 million pensioners were given miserable 80 U$S a month! ref. @18)
    eh, Think!
    What a great model. I don't envy your future.

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    29 ilsen,

    $40/mo. - that puts things into perspective, doesn't it? Sad.

    Ilsen, methinks there is some new puppetry afoot... ;-l

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Most of the advances made by Argentina under the Kirchners were created by stealing from the future.

    The deficits that help pay for all this wonderful largess causes inflation which just erodes everyone's wealth and future assets.

    The running down of every government financial asset to help supposedly pay off debt has robbed future generations of their inheritance.

    The constant populist rhetoric and attempt to hide the economic mismanagement of the Kirchners has scared off investment and destroyed the wealth and businesses of even more Argentineans.

    All the advances and improvements that Think wishes for could have been created in a sustainable way.

    Welfare states should be built on transferring wealth from a growing and sustainable upper to middle class.

    Debt should be paid off from general revenue not by transferring assets out of the country.

    The Kirchners have created a sustainable system. All the improvements will slowly erode and fade away.

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Uhhhhhhhhhh...

    Me mate Skippy (at (31) is in a melodramatic mood today...

    Confronted with the undeniable advances Argentina has made during the past 12 years of Kirchnerite administration... and frustrated by all the national and international macroeconomic indicators that very clearly indicate a brighter economic future for us Argentineans...., he resorts to a cryptical Sci-Fi postulate about “Somebody Stealing Something from the Future”...

    Sorry mate...
    There ain't no Marty McFlys, Doc Browns nor DeLoreans down here...
    Just Kirchners, Kicillofs and Thinks...

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    #32...there isn't much of anything here now. Things that were on the shelves in supermarkets a few years ago are gone...even things made here (going out of business or can't sell at the inflated prices??). And yes, the Ks Ks, and “T”s are here...stealing to their hearts content.

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    The poor little Canadian sausage at (33) seems to miss terribly his imported french Maille mustard...

    By the love of god I ask myself....
    Why doesn't he return to Canada if things are so rotten in Argentina?
    Is somebody holding you here against your will?
    Do you need help to break free?

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    34 puppeteer

    Think, you can't return to Argentina, can you?

    I thought not.

    You probably would have no desire to live there full time, now that you've tasted the freedoms of the real world.

    Sep 11th, 2015 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    “You probably would have no desire to live there full time, now that you've tasted the freedoms of the real world.” The reason that CFK and her ilk promote nationalism and isolation. They fool the masses into thinking they have it great but don't want them to see the way they should be living.

    One of my Argentine friends studied in a UK University so has seen the alternative. One time she said to me that the problem in Argentina is that they honestly believe that what they have is so great but they have no idea how backward they are.

    Maybe ignorance really is bliss.

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    There are soooo many things ElaineB doesn't know about her many Argie friends...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lMIh9dYNb8

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    As usual Think you were hoping for a 1.21 gigawatt effect from your reply but it failed as usual.

    Inflation reduces the value of savings and hence high inflation steals the savings of a population by reducing their net worth. Therefore you have reduced future purchasing power.

    That is your stealing from the future. A bit like giving someone a deficient education..... say an Argentinean one.... is like stealing their future earning capacity.

    In addition to robbing the savings from the future through inflation, your wonderful government has also failed miserably to protect and even grow the savings it holds for the country.

    To give you an example of what your country HASN'T done for the future. In Australia since 2006 (even less that a Kirchner “won” decade) our Future Fund has amassed A$128 BILLION to help pay for FUTURE liabilities.

    I also somehow doubt that Argentina is sitting on A$2 TRILLION in self funded pensions like we are.

    As I said. Your government has stolen money from the future. Now for old people like you that don't have to worry about the future for that much longer, that isn't a problem.

    You country blew its wad during the “won decade”. Future savings and future spending all got sucked in and used up.

    Your system isn't sustainable. You need to grow wealth in order to redistribute. And your country doesn't grow wealth, it just redistributes it.

    You don't have to believe me. I don't really care. I don't live in some humble Patagonian shack.

    But I do live in a country with a large and sustainable welfare sector. A country that is constantly redistributing wealth in a much larger way than yours does. But we aren't transferring until the spigot runs dry, we grow the entire economy so there is more wealth to transfer.

    Joke about it all you want. But I'll be around to see the future longer than you.

    You had a couple of good years and deluded yourself that it was permanent.

    Welcome to reality.

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (38) Skippy...

    I wasn't expecting nothing close to 1.21GW from you, my inexperienced but haughty young Anglo matey....
    But I certainly expected more than those pauper 50 milliamperes your little hamster wheel of a brainwashed brain just produced...

    You say...:
    “Inflation reduces the value of savings and hence high inflation steals the savings of a population by reducing their net worth. Therefore you have reduced future purchasing power” you say...

    I say...:
    May be so... in the Aussie outback, where Mum hides those hard earned savings in the cookie jar...
    But anywhere else in the world, where inflation is a reality, normal people put their savings on high interests fixed term deposits at their banks...
    In the specific case of Argentina, those interest rates cover the inflation rate and a teeny weeny more...
    Ergo...: Nothing lost, nothing “stolen”...
    Another popular hedge our middle/ high class traditionally utilizes against inflation is the purchase of foreign currencies, mostly U$D...
    That has, in the past many years been a deficitary investment in Argentina due to the devaluation rate of the Pe$o being lower than the inflation rate...
    Bad luck for them...

    If there is anything more you want to know about Real Word Economics, feel free to ask..., boy.

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @7 Reekie
    Going back to my # 17
    Quote “”“
    You insist on how wonderful Lulla and CFK are, yet you don't live in either Brazil or Argentina, and 'think' you know what' going on here. You don't.

    If you really believe they “represent a new model politicians that are the nightmare of those who kept Latin America as a backward sub-continent for more than a century”, why do you remain in Canada ?
    Why submit yourself to so much social injustice in North America when you could enjoy an opulent life in Latin America. On the way down, suggest you take a stop and spend a few weeks in VZ.....

    I would appreciate an answer - one that makes sense.
    ”“”Unquote

    Still waiting for an answer. Your silence is admission that you don't know your arse from your elbow.

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    39 Think

    “ reality, normal people put their savings on high interests fixed term deposits at their banks...
    In the specific case of Argentina, those interest rates cover the inflation rate and a teeny weeny more...
    Ergo...: Nothing lost, nothing “stolen”...
    Another popular hedge our middle/ high class traditionally utilizes against inflation is the purchase of foreign currencies, mostly U$D...
    That has, in the past many years been a deficitary investment in Argentina ”

    Think/voice,
    Your condescending is laughable.

    You speak as though high and very high Inflation is normal, and to be expected - hilarious.

    The strategy you speak of by the middle class, to offset Inflation, does not tell the real story either.
    I can't imagine an interest return of 25-40%+ from the banks, that would be needed to hedge your Inflation rate. Unless of course, investments were fixed to the $USD, which you dismiss as somehow foolish or disloyal to Argentina.
    How many of your shrinking Middle Class can afford monies to put aside for Inflation hedging investments?
    How many banks are Argentina trying to penalize for doing just that?

    The majority of your people are poor, and as many as 30% are VERY poor, according to the poverty relief agencies including CDK's best buddy the Pope's church.

    They have no money to put aside in High Yield Term Deposits, do they?
    Life is a grind - and getting worse as their pesos buy less and less.

    “ no money stolen” ???
    We in the rest of the world, where Inflation is usually kept well under double digits, are able to invest in High Yield Term Deposits as well, and many other investment tools.
    While your Middle Class investors are treading water against currency devaluation, we are realizing profits - that they will never see - due to investment

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Really Think?

    And what interest rate is paid?

    One that covers the cover the OFFICIAL “inflation rate and a teeny weeny more...”

    Or one that covers the ACTUAL “inflation rate and a teeny weeny more...”

    Inless people are receiving weekly or monthly salary increases to cover continually compounding price increases from high inflation, then they don't even get to put money into an account where it can earn interest.

    In the real world as opposed to your deluded world where you think you live in some economic nirvana (from your perspective you probably do considering Argentina's economic history) people hedge their savings in US$ & durable goods. That is why you run a dual exchange rate & why CFK crowed about the consumer boom over the past couple of years. People bought forward their purchases to protect the value of their ever decreasing salaries. But people only need so many cars and white goods before they don't need to purchase anymore. And then your consumer boom peters out but you're still left with high inflation.

    And as for someone being brave enough to lock up their savings in some high interest bearing account when government lies about the inflation rate and you don't know whether your 30% interest rate will still be higher than inflation of lower..... yeah sure! Because Argentina is currently experiencing a glut of savings. LOL

    Salaries and interest rates don't pace inflation. They play catch up by leapfrogging it and then always falling behind because the inflation rate trended up for so many years..

    The fact is that the 50 milliamperes my little hamster wheel of a brainwashed brain produces is always enough to show you up. Time and again. I don't doubt you have trouble remember that since you have so much trouble remembering inflation's effect on your life.

    Thanks for the cookie jar compliment. Yes with our stable economy & low inflation this is still considered better than an Argentinean savings account.

    1.5%
    We just can't compete. You win!

    Sep 12th, 2015 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Educating Skippy...: (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJNA0heZki8)

    1) The interest rate paid by the banks In Argentina covers the ACTUAL inflation rate and a teeny weeny more..., (Same procedure our trade unions use when negotiating salary increases..., by the way).
    But don't take me word for it...Google it...

    2) CFK hasn't “crowed about the consumer boom over the past couple of years.”... Not at all...
    By the way... The record sales of cars that happened over 2 years ago was mostly due to political price intervention that, at the time, made cars in Argentina as cheap as dirt (In international prices)...
    I meself bought me a new little Argie car for ~ 6,000 €uros...
    Very same car would today set me back ~ 11,000 €uros...
    But don't take me word for it...Google it...

    3) Salaries and interest rates do indeed keep pace with inflation in Argentina...
    On the other hand..., old age pension increases, minimum wage increases and NEWLY CREATED SOCIAL BENEFITS, three elements that include and serve about 70% of us Argentineans have surpasssed inflation manifold in the Kirchner administration era...
    But don't take me word for it... Google it...

    4) At least, you got two things right you won't need to Google..:
    a) My cookie jar compliment about Aussieland's enviable & desirable stable economy...
    b) The fact that you can't compete with me... I win!

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    The problem here is that everyone is in complete denial. Whenever I try to talk about inflation or politics people say they don't want to talk about that. Period. I will never understand it. And they usually say the same thing to me as a previous poster said “why not go back to Canada if you don't like it here?”. Its not that I don't like it here...I just don't understand why everyone is so disinterested in the situation in their own country.

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (44)

    It's not that everyone is disinterested in the situation in our own Country...

    It's that, after listening to your ignorant diatribes, everyone gets disinterested in discussing anything with an haughty Anglo Ex-Pat...

    Is that so difficult to understand..?

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Turnip @45 Think

    As to Mendoza Canadian's motives, try substituting Anglo
    with Argie..

    “ ...after listening to your ignorant diatribes, everyone gets disinterested in discussing anything with an haughty Argentine Ex-Pat... ”

    I suspect that Mendoza Canadian, living there, has a far more realistic understanding of life in the Argentina of today, than you do.

    BTW,
    a 6000 peso Argy car two years ago, would very likely be 11,000 new today, after 2 years of 40% inflation.
    “Your” new car now has 2 years wear & tear from use, and fewer and fewer can afford to buy new or used.

    - Consumerism is down in Argentina, and dropping - Google that.

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina and Brazil are getting very cosy.???

    out of interest.

    Brazil purchase former French assault ship
    The Foudre class carry large stowage areas which can be used to ferry battle tanks and vehicles
    The ship can ferry a whole armoured regiment with its 22 AMX-30 or Leclerc battle tanks, 44 AMX 10 RC heavy armoured cars, 22 véhicules de l’Avant Blindé, 41 all-terrain light vehicles (including 16 MILAN anti-tank missile systems),
    https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/brazil-purchase-former-french-assault-ship/

    Just out of interest,
    Why would BRAZIL a country who is in deep debts and has no named enemies buy an assault ship considered a projection of power, no matter how small?
    Why would Brazil,
    Buy this item,
    Yet her friend who is also in debt up to her head, and who has territorial ambitions against British lands, called Argentina has none,

    Would this be a conspiracy for Brazil to but this stuff, then lend/lease it to Argentina perhaps,

    Just an interesting thought.

    this dry Sunday evening whilst the X factor is on....

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    “Think”...#45...do you have nothing better to do than insult the people here? Or is it, like the very people I mentioned, you are in denial. Get a life.

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    48 Mendoza Canadian

    from BC Canadian...

    Keep telling it like it is. “Think” is certainly NOT living in Argentina, and he has no idea of the effects of 40% annual Inflation for years, and the associated currency devaluation.

    The sum total of his posts is insults, condescension, and brazen lies, but his arguments are resoundingly hollow.

    Have you noticed that “Think” and “voice” are sounding much alike?

    And, what happened to “Think's” 'accent'?

    He forgets himself when he's launching an offensive... offensive :-)

    Sep 13th, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Yep Think, I just can't compete..... with your reading comprehension skills.

    You really are in a league of your own.

    In your fondness for Google, perhaps you can look up the difference between “we” and “I”.

    Bless.... you read what you wish was written. Guess I can't expect much more from an Argentinean education.

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #44 &45

    Disinterested......impartial, unbiased.
    Uninterested.......indifferent, unconcerned.
    Which do you mean?

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Well spotted Mr. Mc Clyde15...

    I Think Mendoza Anglo Canuck meant “Uninterested”...
    How will he ever understand anything about Argentina if he doesn't even understand his own language?

    Engrish being my 7th. language excuses me mistake though...

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    I meant uninterested. Thank you for correcting me Clyde.

    There you go again “think”...

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    53 MC

    s'funny that ThinkVoice is quick to point out minor flaws of the MP posters, but fails to remark on the blatant larceny and deceit of CFK et al.

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Engrish being my 7th. language,

    And the other 6 are.....

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (53)

    You deeply insult me and your host Country at (4) & (26) using an indigent Argentinean child who died of multiple and grave maladies to make a negative point against the Kirchner administration...
    I could easily find some pictures of extremely ill & thin dying Canadians and blame them on Harper and his conservative mates.

    Then..., at (33), you call me a thief...
    But you get very offended when I call you a turnipy Anglo Canuck?

    Who's the one in denial and in need of a life?

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    55 briton,

    “...7 properties...” as well

    “chuckle chuckle...”

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    lol.

    Sep 14th, 2015 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Hey thunk...la cretina is not responsible for indigent children? She certainly threw a scene at the meeting with Lula...on the verge of tears....wailing like a banshee about the dead child. All the while blaming Europe for this tragic death. And whose government is right up al-Assads ass? Whose government is supporting the dictator in Venezuela? Whose government is bowing and scraping to the war-monger Putin? The list goes on and on.
    Yes you are in denial. You are insulted? Maybe it time to wake up and smell the coffee.

    Sep 15th, 2015 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnipy Anglo Canuck at (59)
    Normally, I interact as little as possible with turnips.
    But I'll make an exception with you so other readers can, if they wish, check my info and THINK...:

    You ask...:
    Isn't Cristina responsible for indigent children? 
    I say...:
    Very much so.
    That's why, terminally ill Oscar Sanchez, 14 years, RIP, as you can read in the link below, was derived from the “Néstor Kirchner” assistance centre of Villa Rio Bermejito to the Güemes hospital in Castelli and finally to the Central Pediatric Hospital in Chaco's capital, Resistencia where he died under intensive medical care...
    http://www.periodicomovil.com.ar/nota/sociedad/653/murio-adolescente-qom-pesaba-11-kilos.html
    All three above mentioned medical facilities (together with some 150 other in Chaco province) were constructed and inaugurated by the present Kirchner administration...

    You ask?
    “And whose government is right up al-Assads ass?”
    I would say...:
    The Canadian, The American, the British and the rest of NATO member governments that, by bombing IS strongholds, are keeping dictator Assad very much in power...
    You know IS...? That monster that you Anglos fostered and nutruted in Russian occupied Afghanistan during the eighties and that now has run wild against its own creators...

    You say...:
    “Whose government is supporting the dictator in Venezuela? ”
    I say...:
    What dictator in Venezuela?
    Last time I checked Venezuela was run (quite badly, by the way) by a president elected democratically in an internationally monitored fair election...

    You say...:
    “Whose government is bowing and scraping to the war-monger Putin? ”
    I say...:
    War-monger Putin?
    And that coming from an Anglo Canuck whose government has been directly militarily involved in aggression wars against Afghanistan, Irak, Libya and Syria among others...
    Wars that have created untold human misery in the whole of the Middle East...
    Human misery that migrates toward Europe as we speak...

    Wake Up, Brainwashed Anglo Turnip...

    Sep 15th, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @60 Thinksvoice


    You say...:
    “Whose government is supporting the dictator in Venezuela? ”
    I say...:
    What dictator in Venezuela?
    Last time I checked Venezuela was run (quite badly, by the way) by a president elected democratically in an internationally monitored fair election..”

    OMG !! stop ... stop... !!!
    I'm splitting my guts laughing... :-D

    ROFLMAO !!

    Sep 16th, 2015 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Jesus Christ!!!!...Elected? The Democratic Republic of North Korea has an elected president as well. I guess the DPRK and Venezuela are two examples of well tuned democracies!

    I can;t understand why Madman Maduro bothers with jails for his opposition. Use a bullet or anti aircraft gun like his chubby asian brother.

    Sep 16th, 2015 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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