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Malvinas war declassified documents delivered to Argentine veterans
Argentina's Defense minister Austin Rossi handed Malvinas veterans a report on the 1982 South Atlantic conflict compiled from recently declassified military documents. The report handed to Ernesto Alonso, head of the Malvinas former combatants national committee was drafted by the ministry's Human Rights and International Humanitarian Law desks. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“The report and documentation is a significant contribution for the Malvinas cause, which is a cause sustained by all the Argentine people” said minister Rossi.”
Sep 11th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0How does acknowledging that Argentina was engaged in widespread human rights abuses advance the “Malvinas cause”? Enrique, Think, anyone?
They never think before opening their mouths.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope I am not out of order her, but they have been know to re-write the history books and lie a little where the Falklands are concerned. I wonder how much of the 'History' has been doctored. We already know that Ms Castro thinks that GB started the war when they sank the Belgrano. Maybe that was a pre-cursor of what to expect. Watch your back lads.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enough detail for a devil to hide within? I doubt it.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Handed over in another meaningless ceremony?
Sep 11th, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3. You're not out of order. Argieland has been doctoring things since around 1811. But you can tell when it's lying. Verbally, it's when lips move. In writing, it's when what is written or printed supports the argie “cause”. For instance, for many years, argieland insisted that Britain had forcibly ejected the argie inhabitants of the Islands in 1833. It's only recently that the “story” has changed. With the incontrovertible evidence that only the illegal military garrison and 4 other people left. At British invitation, everyone else stayed. Those supposedly “employed” by the treacherous Vernet were “paid” in Vernet's worthless paper. Britain paid them what they were owed in good honest silver.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1850, argieland signed a treaty that was supposed to end all disputes between argieland and Britain. It is a matter of fact that anything not mentioned in such a treaty are not considered to be disputes. The Falklands weren't mentioned. Argieland claims that the treaty only refers to the Anglo-French blockade. Then why isn't it called “A Treaty to End the Blockade of Arg...”
And so it goes on. Lie after lie after lie.
I'm fairly sure that, at the present time, argieland also continues to lie in order to maintain the fiction that it's “important”.
Perhaps Britain should have a “mad dictator” who could order the Royal Navy to surface its ballistic missile submarines off the argie coast and prepare to launch their missiles. Could that teach them the worth of honesty and truth?
I do not understand why this report is available as a matter concerning the Falkland Islands.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The internal machinations of the the Argentine Army have NOTHING to do with the Falklands Islands.
Ooops looks like another oil strike in the FALKLANDS
Sep 11th, 2015 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1 Redrow
Sep 11th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK's vocation to openness and transparency shows up again.
Indeed, this action may not specifically advance the Malvinas cause, but anything that contributes to unmask the vile actions of the Argentine military during the occupation will be good, especially for those who where brought there as 18-year-old conscripts.
@9 Enrique
Sep 11th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fair enough then - nothing to do with the FIs. And glad to hear you refer to it as an “occupation”. That is progress at least.
The good news in these “historical documents” is the fact that Argentina WON the war!
Sep 11th, 2015 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now who can doubt that?
Ha, ha, ha.
@9 Enrique Massot
Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remember 1982 as if it were today. Whilst the conscripts amongst the Argentine invaders were treated in a vile manner by their officers nothing pleased me more than when I saw the images of the Argentine troops after defeat “con los rabos entre sus piernas”! Absolute failures!
Sod you. You got everything you deserved!
Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem concerning docummentation supplied by the Argentine military is the integrity of the same, however taking it all with a pinch of salt then perhaps something useful may be found if it can cross referenced to other sources.
Sep 11th, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now we will finally discover if the Argentines sunk Hermes 5 times (or was it 4 times). Or perhaps it was HMS Invincible that was sunk more than once?
Sep 11th, 2015 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I hope it will inform us of when the SuperGauchos (with knives longer than Kukris) landed. (Korned Beef Kate said they would-I heard it in the news).
#12 gordo
Sep 12th, 2015 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...nothing pleased me more than when I saw the images of the Argentine troops after defeat 'con los rabos entre sus piernas'!”
May I remember you that the Argentine military action was planned and executed by people who had usurped the power by coup d'etat--and that Argentines had no say on it, even if temporarily deluded in the belief the operation had been responsibly planned.
May I remember you that most soldiers were 18-year-old conscripts that had no more business in the operation than you or I. As veterans, they were forgotten and left to solve by themselves their physical scars and their PTSD.
I guess that's too much to ask.
@16: Perhaps we should remind you to read comments before passing judgement? Gordo didn't say anything against the conscripts, he commented on the looks on the faces of a defeated army as it was kicked out of land that it had invaded and occupied.
Sep 12th, 2015 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps we should also remind you of the screaming thousands in BA cheering at the news of the Falklands having been invaded?
The shoddy treatment they received on returning home is the same shoddy treatment they receive now. Releasing a few documents isn't going to solve the problems they've had to suffer. How can you trust this government any more than you could trust the junta?
This is nothing more than vote-catching. And pretty rubbish too.
@16 Enrique
Sep 12th, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't mind your thoughts as to why a now “enlightened” Argentina is one of the only countries in the world that has a national holiday celebrating the beginning of a war. They even staged a mock reenactment of the invasion three years ago. Yet for some reason you pretend that your countrymen do not support what transpired.
I know that the Germans don't have a national holiday commemorating the invasion of Poland?
I think both your memory and musings are conveniently selective.
@16 “and that Argentines had no say on it, even if temporarily deluded in the belief the operation had been responsibly planned.” I have only one word for this - bollocks!
Sep 12th, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am well aware of the true nature of the 1982 invasion of the Falkland archipelago by a usurping nation.
I also vividly recall the television covering from the Casa Rosada of thousands of Argentine citizens of all political callings wholeheartedly showing their support for the actions of the Junta led by a drunken idiot, Galtieri.
Please don't belittle yourself by trying to convince us otherwise.
@19 gordo1
Sep 13th, 2015 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In case you haven't noticed, Enrique conveniently disappears whenever anyone politely requests a response to anything that questions his narrative. He has yet to even acknowledge one of my (very civil & honest) questions in the past. Strangely, he has no issue responding to vitriolic comments from posters that are so hyperbolically contemptuous of him. Quite perplexing.
@20 NFLD
Sep 14th, 2015 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0None of the malvinista trolls seem to be able to recognise the fact that we are all aware of the sequence of events in 1982 and that Argentina has NO defence for its subsequent behaviour towards the islanders. Nor, indeed, for the lies, fairy tales, myths, etc Argentina uses in defence of its nonsensical position - for example, the Papal Bulls of 1493 issued by the infamous Pope Alexander VI(especially Inter caetera) which granted the New World to the Iberian nations. The New World was not his to grant away!
@21 gordo1 ENRIQUE
Sep 14th, 2015 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very true.
The only explanation that I can see for Enrique is that he appears to be one of those odd jingoistic-pacifists. His nationalistic tendencies (“Malvinas are Argentine!”) override his basic humanistic inclinations (“just let them live in peace and democratically govern themselves as they see fit”), or even basic logic and history (anyone with fundamental knowledge on the subject and without a bias knows that Argentina has no case).
He's an example as to how strong an influence that propagandized tribalism can have on an individual's thought process (although I have my own crosses to bear in that department, so I probably shouldn't be throwing stones).
Still, rather frustrating that he's one of the few polite malvinists on MP, yet continues to dodge addressing the inconvenient questions. So be it.
From BBC News today:
Sep 15th, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34252025
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