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UK to press Spain to honor law enforcement cooperation in Gibraltar waters
British Government will continue to press Spain to honor the agreement to step up law enforcement cooperation in Gibraltar waters, Philip Dunne Minister of State for Defence has said. Mr Dunne was responding to a written question in the House of Commons from Tory MP Andrew Rosindell. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe Royal Navy's Gibraltar Squadron doesn't have the capability to oppose illegal spanish incursions into British Gibraltar Territorial Waters (BGTW).
Sep 27th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's take this step by step. Spain relies on the Treaty of Utrecht 1713. The treaty doesn't mention territorial waters. That's fine because there was no such thing, in 1713, as territorial waters. It's useful to note that the treaty doesn't mention spanish territorial waters either. Go to territorial waters defined as those within cannonshot. But then, as from 1964, the Convention on the Territorial Sea and the Contiguous Zone defined territorial waters as a right of every coastal state. How did spain get territorial waters but Gibraltar didn't? The truth is that spain lies.
The problem is capability. The Gibraltar Squadron has two 16 m (52 ft 6 in) Patrol launches—HMS Scimitar and her sister ship HMS Sabre—and three Pacific 24 rigid-hulled inflatable boats, manned by a team of 22 people. Imagine if there were also three Type 23 frigates. All fully-armed and ready to open fire. Swapping around between the west side, the east side and Europa Point. Regular live fire drills.
The UK must remember its history and its responsibilities.
Illegal spanish incursion? One radio warning. One warning shot. Then fire for effect.
Spain is simply trying to bully a small nation
Sep 27th, 2015 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#3
Sep 27th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Asking a Hispanic country to honour an agreement ? Somewhat naive I think !
There is no excuse, he knows the truth…
Sep 27th, 2015 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Picardo and Cameron discuss law enforcement at sea
“I managed to have a few words with the Prime Minister about law enforcement issues in British Gibraltar territorial waters,” Mr Picardo said. “He was very aware of the current situation.”
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=36548
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Britain must do more,
Britain can do more,
But Britain won’t do more, why ?
Over to prime minister David Cameron.
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let it not be fotgotten on how Spain saved the lives of so many Gibraltans
Sep 27th, 2015 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and British serviceman on that abstruce day in 1988.
The IRA had planted a 140lb of semtex with a device to go off during the changing of the guard. The target being the 1st Battalion Royal Anglican regiment.
Spanish police quickly passed all movement details to the British Government, which finally killed the IRA terrorist.
and as Geoffey Howe said at the time in the British Parliament:
` Confident that the house will wish me to extend our gratitude to the
Spanish authorities, without whose assistance the outcome might have
been very different.´
Something that Picardo seems to have forgotten......ummmmmm
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1988/mar/07/shootings-gibraltar
@5
Sep 28th, 2015 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain is a member of NATO. They shared 'intelligence' with an ally. As they should.
So what is your point exactly?
*6 wrong!!!
Sep 28th, 2015 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The IRA attack on Gibraltar was on the 6th of March, 1988.
Spain joined Nato on the 19th of April,1988.
Spain was not under any obligation to share military intelligence but it did.
Since the British thoroughly defeated Spain the last time, they have been licking arse.
Sep 28th, 2015 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0and your point is what, exactly?
“Spain was not under any obligation to share military intelligence but it did.”
So what?
You still don't answer the question...
So what is your point exactly?
You don't have one, do you paulie?
I don't believe that the actions of the IRA in Iberia can be considered “military” by any measure. They were plain criminals and I am sure it was the Spanish “civil” authorities who were monitoring their activities.
Sep 28th, 2015 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5. Let's suppose we start with a simple point. How do you “know” that spain “saved the lives of so many Gibraltans and British serviceman on that abstruce day in 1988”? Got a list of where explosives were sited have you? How did you get that? Did you help?
Sep 28th, 2015 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's no such entity as the Royal Anglican Regiment. Pity the spanish “lost track” of the murdering terrorists. Had to be identified by MI5.
And what has this to do with spain's illegitimate and illegal activities?
Perhaps when spain has innumerable rusting hulks on the seabed?
@7. Oh I see. It's fine for spain to stand back and watch or encourage the murder of the citizens of another country. Let's remember that. Let's imagine that Britain finds out about plots to exterminate Kirchner, Timernan and Rajoy, Margallo. We'll just keep that to ourselves. What do we care? Should we take account of the possible collateral damage? Nah. There isn't anything in argieland or spain worth the effort.
Honour in Spain?
Sep 28th, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An oxymoron to go with the moron spanisharsolee.
*10 if the Spaniards had “lost” the terrorists. Do you think in your wildest dreams that Parñiament wouñd have thanked the Spaniards?????? GET REAL
Sep 29th, 2015 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Royal Anglian Regiment exists....YOU DON´T!!
#12
Sep 29th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Far be it for me to defend C. but. I agree that the Royal Anglian Regiment exists BUT YOU POSTED AT #5 Royal Anglican regiment.
If you were not such a smart arse then your mistake may have been forgiven however, if you are going to leave yourself open to inaccuracies expect a rebuke.
Someone loves ya Spain
Sep 29th, 2015 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0,
They will look after you,
ISIS WARNING: Horrifying map of target countries it wants to dominate in Europe by 2020
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/597254/ISIS-Map-Europe-Terror-Organisation-Andrew-Hosken-Caliphate-Abu-Musab-al-Zarqawi
this may well end the Spanish attitude…
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spain did what its obligated to do, track and arrest criminals,
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