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Falklands: Argentina waiting for a reply to its project to identify remains buried at Darwin

Thursday, October 1st 2015 - 05:19 UTC
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Argentina is concerned that there has been no reply from the UK regarding its initiative and request to identify the remains of the Argentine combatants buried at the Darwin cemetery, or Argentine memorial, in the Falkland Islands, according to a release from the Argentine foreign ministry. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    Surely this matter should be handled by the authorities in the Falkland Islands NOT by London?

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Why not dig the “ bones ” up and send them to Argentina, that way way the relatives have their dead back and the FALKLANDERS have the land back. What not to like. Cue the “ believers ” that think it wrong.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    As far as I can discover, the UK has not received any request. The FIG certainly have not received a request. Impossible to answer something that has never been sent.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Remarkable dense. Timmerman probably hasn't received an answer from Tajikistan, Switzerland or Japan either. He needs to contact FIG. Can someone send him the address?

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    If I remember right they spoke to the UK government and were told that they would have to apply to FIG for permission (or something along those lines).

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Dear Mr Timmerman,
    Please can I suggest you send your request to the Correct address; as follows for email- either: Our Legislative Assembly;
    clerkofassembly@sec.gov.fk
    or
    assembly@sec.gov.fk
    or the Attorney general: mlewis@sec.gov.fk

    Then - and only then - are you likely to get a reply!

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @6 Islander,
    And that is just what he has been instructed NOT to do.
    They are just hoping that the UK Govt will inadvertently answer them, then they can crow about an“implanted”population.
    Despicable people.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Argentines need to get it into their thick sculls that this matter needs to be addressed with THE SELF GOVERNING PEOPLE OF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Isolde - yes agree- and as of a couple of months ago UK Govt confirmed to FI Govt it had NOT received any request anyway!
    and if Uk Govt did receive a request it would simply return it to the Argentines telling them to contact Falkland Is Govt as it is not an issue under responsibility of the UK Govt.
    As according to Argentina there is no such thing as the Falkland Islands Govt, I guess in 10 years time the situation will still be exactly as it is today!
    Yep - they should grow up - but we all know they will not!

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    “An argentine soldier known only by God”. Then what is argieland asking for? No records of which criminal barbarians argieland sent in '82? Which ones are missing? There. Identified. Simple. (I did think of putting “Simples” but I can't bring myself to an argie low).

    Across the entire world, countries don't keep records of their soldiers, right? Especially the ones not expected to go home. How to reduce the pay and/or social security bill!

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @2

    Excellet idea. Argentine government might do the very same with the fallen british soldiers killed in action during the two British Invassions to Rio de la Plata. Their bones are still in argentine soil..since nobody cared about them. Not even their relatives.

    So, it would be a nice spectalce for the World to se how both, the British and Argentine Governments, exchange bones.....

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Of course the Argentine Government know full well who they should contact over this matter but they won't because any direct communication with the FI would be a de facto recognition of their existence. So TimTim is playing idiot politics South American style - “see those nasty Brits won't even help us with an humanitarian issue. It's just not fair” (noise of stamping foot - sneak off out of side door to sulk when nobody takes any notice).

    @11 PG don't be silly - it was more than 200 years ago - how would they have been identified, how could they be shipped back to Britain and how would you know if their relatives didn't care.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    11 pgerman,

    be snide if you like, but the UK government is not pressing Argentina for the remains of British soldiers of 200 years ago.

    They died in the service of their country and were honoured as befitted the times.
    Let them rest in peace.

    Agreed, there are parallels.
    There are no UK families crying out for DNA identification or reunification, just as the Argentine families are not interested in having the remains exhumed or sampled or DNA.

    This is purely a political stunt generated by the Argentine government to elicit a response from the UK and exploit it.

    The difference is that the UK has no desire to exhume or disturb the fallen, and there is desire to provoke Argentina or fabricate political issues.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    13 Troy- what pgerman and his fellows fail to understand is that it is actually NOTHING to do with UK - if Argentina wishes to raise the issue - the competent authority to raise it with is the Falkland Islands Govt - They know that - they know it very well - they have tried to ask UK about several other issues in the past(like AA flights) and UK has politely and correctly advised them to contact the Islands Govt.
    Falkland Islands Govt has never received any contact from the Argentine Govt on this or any other issue. Full Stop - End Of.
    Until Argentina grows up!

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @11 The British fatalities in the early 19th century in the Rio de la Plata area occurred on Spanish soil. The Argentine fatalities in the 20th century occurred on Falkland Island territory.

    Maybe Spain and the Falklands Islands governments could arrange repatriation of the remains? The possibilities are endless though, of course, eventually Argentina will have to talk to the Falkland Islanders - there is no other solution.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @12, 13, 14 & 15

    My post made reference to the stupid, and arrogant, post number 2 of “golfcronie”.

    There are human remains in both territories of people fallen during millitary actions so, the best think we can do is to respect them. Western people, with some moral values, behave this way....

    In Addition, I am far from being a fan of CFK and her peronist fascists ministers but, there is quite clear a situation that we can clasified, at least, as “double faced”. If the interests, international representation and defense of the FI depend from the British Embasy the reasonable thing is to contact them.
    As a result of these contacts Buenos Aires British Embassy public servants' must contact the FI authorities if it corresponds...

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    The matter is with the Red Cross who are talking to the relatives, however they will only proceed if all the relatives agree. Understandable for what must be a difficult matter.

    Something that TinPot already knows very well, which Mr Maurer would have re-iterated to him.

    Perhaps they should check with their own veterans association for an update, before speaking out.

    One could get the impression that they had sunk so low as to be exploiting their own war dead for political expedience.

    @ 16 pgerman
    Once the Red Cross are ready, they will make whatever representation to whomever necessary to proceed.

    They are quite used to dealing with this type of situation, wars ect is their business.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Well done pgerman right on “ cue ” I knew I would get a responce from an Argie , why did I say “ cue the believers ”. France is digging up our dead so that we can identify them. Only kidding, no, Argentina is as someone said previously that they want a responce from the UK government, you will not get it as the UK government is wiser than yours. dream on. Same as the USA as regards Stuiso, no responce.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    The last time this was raised by Argentina, the UK Government confirmed that they had received no such request but remained willing to consider any such request with sensitivity. UK can't act if Argentina doesn't actually ask.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Timmerman, you have to talk to the FIG you odious turd.
    Not the UK Government.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self-Determination

    respect the dead.......even if they are vile invaders.

    this isnt about repatriating the dead with their families, this is about something far bigger as i have always said.

    an opportunity to conveniently find evidence of war crimes??? lets face it argentina has mis-information and lies to an art for any moron who will listen would you bet against it??

    status quo “Known only by god” and so it should stay, and I would make it publicly clear to the argentine people that if the harrassment persists from their government then The Falklands government will have no choice but to make the islands out of bounds to all Argentines for the foreseeable future, and lets see how tinnerman and co wiggle out of that shit pie.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    No that my opinion matters, but I would have the lot exhumed and dumped in the sea on the edge of the EEZ. Problem solved

    Failing that, Argentina should be told to clean their filthy land mines up before they will be allowed to tend to their war dead.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self-Determination

    @22 wouldnt that class as sea pollution? but then again it wouldnt be the first or second time argentina has been happy to leave its people in the water.

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Truth be known Timerman and the rest of the Argentine government could not give a rats ass about the bones that lie in Darwin cemetery it's just another silly idiotic way of causing trouble which they certainly are good at. The good people of The Falkland Islands are SELF GOVERNING for which the answer of who you should address on this matter Mr Timernan is blowing in the wind-we get it WHY DON'T YOU

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    pgerman 16. Yes UK is responsible for :
    External defence & Foreign Affairs.

    UK has NO responsibility fro what happens on the land(or under it in this case)
    all that - 100% of it - comes under the laws of the Government of the Islands.

    UK has answer to the UN to ensure that such laws the islands have are good- fair-democratic and just ones, (but they are all made and controlled by the Islands Govt) Which they all are - otherwise they would not have been signed of.
    That is why if Buenos Aires makes a question to London in this issue - London will advise the to make direct contact. London will of course notify the Islands Govt that it received the query - so we here are thus ready for when the question is put to us direct from Argentina.
    But of course this will never actually happen!!

    Oct 01st, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    ....last time I checked the Falklands are a NSGT.....
    Organ Grinder or Monkey springs to mind....
    Sovereign States deal with Sovereign States....International protocol....
    It's called foreign affairs....
    Remind me who deals with Falklands foreign affairs....

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    I see voice @26

    “... Monkey springs to mind.... ”

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @26 voice

    The matter of your cemetery on the Falkland Islands is NOT a “foreign” affair as London is not responsible for the burial grounds there - it is a domestic matter.

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Hector Timerman met in the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York with Peter Maurer, president of the Red Cross International Committee, the organization which is acting as the link in the request,…”

    This has nothing to do with the buried soldiers and everything to do with another pathetic attempt by Argentina to try and persuade another jurisdiction (the Red Cross in this case) to become involved in their great malvinas myth.

    So we have Hectoring Hector telling lies, using weasel words in another attempt to play the victim. This is all because Argentina lacks the gumption to tackle its own self-created problem, so it will use any pretext, even the remains of its own soldiers to try and garner some support for its fraudulent claims and colonial ambitions in the Falklands.

    People must cross the street when they see Timerman coming!

    What a totally useless, cowardly position for Argentina to take.

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Voice 26 - See 28- Do please find out what classes as Foreign Affairs and what amounts to internal matters for a Govt - and wether you don't like it or not - FACT is - Falkland Islands Govt is the elected Govt of the Islands and has full jurisdiction over internal matters - ie those within territorial or EEZ limits.
    Now - send a military unit to land on the beaches without permission to walk up to the cemetery to start digging - yes - that then becomes Foreign Affairs and Defence as it would be a serious breach of our national boundary etc.
    Come in on normal transport method and produce your passports and then want to start digging - that is Internal affairs - got it?

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @26 Voice

    My Great Grandfather is buried in Tunbridge Wells in the UK. If my family wanted his remains brought back home we would contact Tunbridge Wells Council or Kent Council we wouldn't contact the UK Foreign Office or Defence Dept.

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @26 Voice
    You really do talk complete rubbish, any old sh*t that that comes into your head.

    Normal people have a filter, between what they think and what they actually say, obviously not you.

    Farc are currently negotiating with the Colombian Gov, S. Sudan negotiated independence from Sudan, Eritrea from Ethiopia, the whole of Fu*king Yugoslavia, the list is absolutely endless.

    Argentina won’t negotiate with the FIG because their whole case rests on them not existing.

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “Falklands: Argentina waiting for a reply to its project to identify remains buried at Darwin”

    WOW!! Even their war dead can not escape their own government's political posturing.

    How much further does argentina have to sink before it reaches the 7th level of Hades?

    Oct 02nd, 2015 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    G'day Too Old, how goes it? As your days draw in ours a becoming quite long. It's a long weekend here and I have a list of outside chores as long as a list of Argentine politician's lies. So here's hoping for some nice weather.

    I feel sorry for the next of kin of the dead and missing young men who may actually be holding onto a grain of hope that their government wants to try to identify the poor souls at Darwin cemetery. If the Argentine Government really do want to do this they know what they need to do. They've done it before and they can do it again. Just write to FIG. When they wanted to upgrade the Darwin cemetery a few years back they managed to write to our Planning Department so they'd do it again if they were sincere.

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    However, they are not sincere.

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Jo- It was not the Arg Govt that wrote- it was their Families Asscociation who organised and paid- different thing. their families Assoc does not support what the Arg Govt says it wants to do -so their govt is stuck in a fix. If they ask our Govt direct - then we exist! - They are stuffed by their own bullshit!

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    I think what the Arg “government” has done, and is continuing to do, is just disgusting. Using dead conscripts for political means. This is all about vote-catching, nothing more.
    FIG is an elected government, Voice, therefore your “information” is incorrect. Do you know what NSGT means? Timerman hasn't contacted the UK Government, the Red Cross has. Timerman needs to contact the FIG, if he is sincere, which he obviously isn't.
    In any event, as I said several times before, running DNA tests on the bones at Darwin will leave a lot of people in Arg wondering where their men and boys are actually buried, because I doubt that all remains made it as far as the cemetary. This will then raise more questions and accusations.
    To send young men into a war without identity disks or any form of identification is wrong. To be unable to identify your dead so late in the 20th century is wrong, too. To use them for political gains is wrong. To suggest that it is down to the UK Government to be approached is wrong. Timerman is just being disingenuous and maintaining the pretense that the Falkland Islanders don't exist, this is also wrong. And to string the families of the dead along is also wrong. No matter how you look at it, the Arg government is plain wrong.
    To be honest, it would be great to repatriate the dead, it would be the right thing to do, but, again, the Arg government continues to state that the dead are buried on Arg soil, which is still wrong. We would like to see them gone, but Arg refuses to accept them. It would be a lot better for the families, they would be able to visit them much more easily than having to organise flights to the Islands.
    One day Timerman and his idiot friends will be dead, too. Perhaps then Arg will wake up and join the modern world!

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @37

    Great post - you captured the whole situation.

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    34 Jo Bloggs

    Hello old friend, here's hoping that the weather is kind to you and remember, don't be in too much of a rush to get those jobs finished. If Mrs Bloggs is anything like Mrs Tooold, as soon as one list is complete, there will be another!!

    As I understood it, the next of kin had “adopted” a grave and called it their lost son, regardless of who was actually buried there and so, after all this time, it would be an emotional wrench to fins out that all that love and all that grief had actually been given to the wrong soul.

    My guessing is that the families themselves don't really care one way or another, as long as their fallen are left to rest in peace then they don't mind. I think that the poster FitzRoy at 37 says all that needs to be said....

    The argentine government should be ashamed of itself for trying to get political mileage out of their fallen who died needlessly in a needless conflict.

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    However the Argentine government have no shame & will do anything, any underhanded trick at all, to gain Sovereignty over these lslands.
    As far as they are concerned, “the end justifies the means”.
    Despicable people.

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @26 Voice
    “Remind me who deals with Falklands foreign affairs....”

    Anywhere in the UK and on British territory, cemeteries and graveyards are not National Institutions but dealt with locally.

    When I buried my late Uncle on his (now my) farm (here), I did not contact the National Government to get permission to bury him here but a local authority.

    The Falkland Islands are 8000 miles away from the UK, therefore it is plain stupid to contact the UK over a local issue.

    Why won't Argentina contact the local authorities in the Falklands?

    Surely they aren't scared of 3,000 people?

    Are they?

    Oct 03rd, 2015 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    37
    Do you know what NSGT means....Non Self Governing Territory....
    The United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories is a list of places that the United Nations General Assembly deems to be “non-self-governing”
    “territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government”
    ...Not Self Governing....
    Governed by someone else...
    They have a Governor....
    They do not deal with International matters....
    Anything involving a Sovereign State....
    The Falklands are not a Falklands Territory it is a claimed British Territory....
    It's even called a BRITISH Overseas Territory....
    The people are British (UK) citizens....
    The FOC acts on their behalf concerning International matters and deals with the International community....just like it does for UK inhabitants....
    42
    Did the burial of your Uncle involve dealing with another sovereign state...?
    Thought not....

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @42: Actually, Islanders are British (FI) Citizens........... When will you understand that the Governor is the Queen's Representative in the Falkland Islands and that there is a freely elected Government in the Islands? The Governor has no legal power, he is here to ensure that the law is carried out properly and that the defence of the Islands is maintained. All laws in the Islands are made in the Islands.........

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Voice- Do grow up.
    Examples: A person NOT necessarily an Islander - is medivaced by air-ambulance to Santiago but sadly dies there. The person,s family wish the body to be returned to the islands.
    WHO do you think the various Govt Departments in Chile communicate with
    Direct?

    Answer - The Dept of Health, Dept of Customs, and Registrar General - direct in the Falkland Islands.

    Export of Products from Uruguay to the islands that are required to meet certain public health standards to be classed as fit for export from Uruguay for importation into the Islands.

    Whom does M.G.A.P.(Ur Agric Dept talk to direct to ascertain standards required etc.?
    Answer- the Veterinary and Biosecurity section of the Falkland Islands Govt Dept of Agriculture.

    A USA Exec jet flying oil bosses into the Islands coming via Brazil. Who do you think the Brazilian Airport Authority talks to direct for weather, clearances,certification paperwork, etc etc?
    ANSWER- The Dept of Civil Aviation of the Falkland Islands Govt.

    A couple of years ago FCO in London got repeated enquiries from the Arg Govt as owners of AA - wanting to start a direct flight to the islands.
    WHAT were they told time and time again by the FCO?
    ANSWER - it was nothing to do with them at the UK Foreign Office and the people to talk to were the Dept of Civil Aviation of the Falkland Islands Govt.

    naturally enough that call was never made by Buenos Aires!

    The Argentine 1982 Families Commission wanted to erect a wall and memorial at the Darwin cemetery - Who did they have to apply to direct to make their request for a Planning and Building Permit?
    ANSWER- The Planning and Building Office, Dept of Environmental Planning, Falkland Islands Govt

    Get the message - tosser.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Tosser Voice,
    Sounds almost like a noble title!
    And it suits the………well, Tosser.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    43/44
    You can pretend all you like that you govern a BRITISH Territory, but in reality you don't...
    There isn't a single decision, not a single law that cannot be overturned by the UK...you are little more than a community council with a few extra benefits...
    Even your Police is the UK's responsibility....
    You are a dependency...you depend on the mother country to survive...
    Without the UK you couldn't survive...
    You are like children that have found a job and are working, but still live at their parents rent free....related, but still an expensive liability...

    WE supplement your parasitic existence....

    “territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government”

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    No pretending Voice- facts are simple things called Facts - as different to Fantasy and LalaLand about 300 miles west of the Islands.

    As exampled by your claim that you supplement our existence! Actually FACT - we estimate your Govt antics cost our economy and cost of living about £2 million a year in Additional Costs! Then on top we loose many millions of potential £ business due to the travel and communications difficulties we live with that you impose around us - BUT we far prefer to go without that economic boost-and we manage quite well anyway - rather that have to subject ourselves to imposed Colonial rule from your Lalaland.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    47
    I see when you are confronted with the reality of your situation you resort to a deflection....
    Sorry to disappoint you...but...I am a UK taxpayer and you owe your very existence to me and millions like me...how many billion do you think that war cost and how many billions have been spent on ensuring you exist since then....
    To the nearest Billion would do....
    You live in Lalaland if you really think you decide anything....
    IF the UK Govt decides you are not governing they way they want you to....your Community Council can be removed....FACT!!!
    That's how much control you have....

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    “Without the UK you couldn't survive...”
    Only because we would be invaded by Argentina again. The only thing that we are competently reliant on is defense.
    So the war cost money, how much has Britain sent on wars since then? When it comes down to it the biggest expenses for the British army in the Falklands are probably the fuel it takes to get there and back and the and the stationary defenses, no matter where they were in the world the soldiers would still have to be paid and housed, warships would still be built and the jets would be stationed elsewhere.
    You are right that the UK government can step in if they wish but but it is highly unlikely that they would unless our governance took an extreme downward turn, how much freedom do you think we would have under the yoke of Argentina.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @48: I also pay UK Tax. And FI Tax. So what? Do you actually know how the FIG works? Laws in the FI cannot be overturned by UK Gov't. Because the Governor has to sign off any laws, they are all ready accepted under British law. To suggest that the UK can overturn any law made in the Islands is facile - the UK has problems with EU Law, does that mean that the UK has to do whatever the EU says they must? Doesn't that make the UK a NSGT? No? If the UN says that EU law is wrong, does the EU have to change it's law? That would, by your asinine suggestion, make the EU also an NSGT.
    The cost to the British tax payer is pretty small. FIG also contributes to the defence of the Islands. There wouldn't be a need to defend the Islands were it not for Arg. Prior to '82 there were only 35 Royal Marines here, and the protector vessel. In all other respects there is no cost to the British tax payer. And seeing as I have contributed myself, I think I should also have a say, don't you?
    The point is that this forum is about DNA testing the dead and the Arg Gov't really ought to be contacting FIG. You know that, we know that and so do the Args. The reason they won't, now, is because they have painted themselves into a corner. Funnily enough, they used to talk to FIG in the past (not very long ago either), but then the idiot Kirchner family took over the running of the country.
    How do you propose Arg should continue? What do you think they ought to do?
    And how do you propose the UK gov't could remove our government? Could they do the same to Scotland, Wales or NI?

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    The remains should all be returned to argentina where they belong and can be easily investigated and reburied there.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Off subject but I am watching the Pumas against Tonga match - Maradona is a spectator but he appears to be drunk or on something illegal. Any comments?

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Voice - You are the twisted one! Yes UK could step in and remove our Assembly and rule us direst- but ONLY if they could show good reason that our Assembly was corrupt and trying to force through undemocratic actions. The UN would be very pissed off if the UK did not intervene in such an event! That rule is their for the protection of US the Islands people - its called Good Governance!
    Who intervenes in Argentina whenever her ladyship,s cronies syphon a few million more offshore to their personal bank accounts?
    The Queen actually has the same powers still in UK if Parliament and the Govt of the day became corrupt and undemocratic!
    Falklands defence issues has been well argued out -about £100m a year - less what the UK economy gets back from the Islands and is irrelevant to the issue anyway.
    The topic is Argentina,s unidentified war dead. There is only ONE way this can and ever will be resolved - The Arg Govt getting into contact with the Islands Govt. Full stop- end of.
    On topic perhaps can I remind you why many are unidentified - because Argentine officers REFUSED to assist british troops with identifying them after the battles.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @46 Voice
    “WE supplement your parasitic existence”.

    Now you realise why independence for the Oatmeal savages is so popular in England.

    Even before the oil price crashed.

    Rock on the Fishcakes.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    @ 54
    Nonsense - the UK would never handover the loyal prosperous Falkland Islands to a corrupt, bankrupt, semi fascist, poverty stricken basket case called argentina.
    And you can take your the bodies of your dead invaders back to argentina else they can be buried at sea.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    People can huff and puff until they blow their wee house down about foreign affairs; can we handle some international matters or can't we and all of the nonsense but that's just deflecting from this issue. This story from the Argentine government is just BS for internal consumption. They haven't applied to the UK for permission to identify the bodies in the graves.

    This is no different from their crap of a couple of months ago offering Falkland Islands students the opportunity to study in Patagonia. When one of our media outlets contacted the education organisation cited in the story, they knew nothing about it and told them to contact the government.

    They don't want to identify their war dead and they don't want to offer us education. What they want is to say that the UK ignored them and the ungrateful Kelpers threw the offer of education back in their face.

    If they really wanted to identify the war dead rather than make them political pawns they would simply do it.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @56: Spot on Jo, and you're right about the university offer as well. I'm still waiting to hear from them!!!! ;-)

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    57

    Don't hold your breath while you wait Fitzroy.

    Oct 04th, 2015 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @55 Eddieposted
    Oatmeal savages = Scots (not Kelpers)

    Fishcakes = Salmond & Sturgeon.

    Now re-read the post, remembering that Tosser Voicey in a Porridge Wog AKA subsidy monkey.

    Oct 05th, 2015 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    @58: I'm not so naive! Filmus “released” a “Falklands Newsletter” some months ago, I applied for a copy of that too, seeing as it was about us. I keep writing to him on FB but to no avail, I still haven't had a copy of that either! He's remarkably discourteous. I know it's just a sideshow for the electorate, a “look what we're doing” for the ungrateful Islanders.
    This DNA testing thing is nothing more than the same. They are completely insincere which I think is appalling - playing with the families of the dead. If they really wanted to do something useful, it isn't that hard to do.

    Oct 05th, 2015 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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