MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Dollar reaches new record in Argentina, as Sunday's Election Day approaches
The US dollar in Argentina ended trading on Monday at 9.51 Pesos in banks and foreign exchange agencies while the parallel exchange rate or 'blue' continued to grow and ended 17 cents higher at 16.11 Pesos in underground houses, hitting a new record high. Read full article
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Oct 20th, 2015 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just watch it jump if Scioli wins
It's actually a new record LOW from an Argentines perspective.
Oct 20th, 2015 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0They need MORE argie arsewipes to buy a dollar. :o(
They used close to 1 billion in the past couple of months selling dollars to kepp the blue dollar low. They seem to understand that aspect of economic, simple supply and demand. Yet they blow it everywhere else.
Oct 20th, 2015 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With 27 billion in reserves and just over 27 billion earmarked, their only hope is to continue no paying foreign trade accounts, which is 7.5 billion and pray Vanilla (central bank) can get China to renew their swaps for 11 billion. Hard to think that they will considering China's current situation.
Argentina literally has no money, assuming that they will pay their bills. Take that for what it is worth.
A word to my Argentine neighbors across the Andes: your Peso has been kept at a ridiculous exchange rate to support your corrupt Peronist government that has plundered Argentina's wealthy resources and nearly ruined your future economy for a generation. Before the upcoming election, buy anything you can with what will be soon highly devalued Pesos. Tinned jurel (mackerel) will far better hold its value in your kitchen than Pesos in your bank. Obviously, Dollars will remain the best, but not deposited in the bank.
Oct 20th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are a number of beautiful wineries in Mendoza on the market that will be forced into auction in January, but I think they'll be even more of a bargain in March... ...it's really sad what's about to happen when the economy collapses, but we all saw the writing on the wall two years ago.
Just watch ufpix go to the moon when chile admits it is in a serious recession and colombias bs castro peace pact doesnt hold. Germany and uk manufacturing in the toilet. The ruble collapse was just the beginning. Will the bottom fall out from chile and uruguay? Yes. Walmart is following cnco in the gutter. Argentinas devaljTion is another leg down for chile stocks. Chile corporate debt is an enormous bubble. China hinged. Capital wipeout is what any socialist wants. So far this nueva mayoria has been successfully ddstructive like their kirchner and tSipras friends. Good advice for the argentines chicurero... Now spread the word in santiago
Oct 20th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps Argentina should propose a similar currency to the EURO,
Oct 20th, 2015 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and have an Americano,
its worth a try,
chuckle.
More garbage from doom and gloom prophets who have been announcing a collapse of the Argentine's economy and keep pushing back the date for the catastrophe as time goes.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their shallow economic cliches, a mix of Chicago Boys, Reaganomics and Thatcherism, cannot fathom how Argentina has succeeded in lifting the poorest, expanding the middle class, making possible the retirement of three million citizens with not sufficient contributions and keep moving forward.
Don't feel too bad for them as they are not the only ones. The IMF, the EU and others are in the same bind.
@7 Oh, Enrique, you are a fool. Why not buy that ticket back to Argentina? I will buy it for you…. and introduce you to real Argentines suffering because of the K's mismanagement of the economy. Ready to take up my offer?
Oct 21st, 2015 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0More garbage from the old man of Canada who knows absolutely nothing about the new Argentina. Quique you are living proof that idiots believe everything they read on the internet. I'm not a conservative nor have I ever posted Argentinas collapse. Care to show me where I have? I don't see 2001 happening again, but with no money.......past due trade balances.....means more inflation, less goods......budget deficits trending up....means more borrowing with deadbeat interest rates....IF they can get it. How did tge recent replacement debt issue go since paying that 6 billion bond.......what did they raise....a few hundred million to replace 6 billion.....Argentine financing at its finest.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll chip in for that ticket. Are you allowed back Quique?
You can say disparaging remarks about Chile, and YES we're about to go into a serious recession. Most of our mining sector is cutting back on new developments and new investment is about to go into a very sluggish protracted few years. Our socialist-reformist government has made too many countless expensive promises while discouraging new investors. She's not a bad person, and despite her dodgy son, she's not a thief like Dilma and Cristina, but she's incompetent.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the positive side, we have the lowest level of corruption in South America, the strongest fully independent central bank, positive business environment, solid reputation for being a safe harbor for long term investment with fair tax laws and a substantial “rainy day fund” for unexpected emergencies.
Chileans are considered far more honest and hardworking than our Argentine neighbors, as shown by our police and armed forces. We are well set to defend our national interests with the best army, air force and navy. (Unlike the ARA, our warships don't roll over and sink while tied up in the harbor...)
Columbia, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay can survive (obviously with pain) a major recession. Argentina, Ecuador, Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia and Argentina will need a bloody government overthrow.
“Columbia”
Oct 21st, 2015 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think someone has just outed himself. The only morons to make a mistake like this are the illiterate NorthAmoans.
And why would those countries survive a recession, and the others not? The only difference I see is that one group has governments you like, the others governments you hate. What kind of basis is that to make the statement?
@8
I will line up a good platoon of Brittos who are doing horribly in the Ununited Kungdom, is that OK?
New York - NY / U.S.A
Oct 21st, 2015 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0October 21st, 2015
It does look like it Argentina's socialist certified whore is taking a nation's straight to a stink economic-social vortex hole.
I see the indian racist is out for a stroll again. Papa done with you tobi the Brasshole?
Oct 21st, 2015 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quique....2010 to 2014 ( have you felt them impact? GDP growth was 9.5 , 8.4, 0.2.9 , 0.5 and negative this year.
Consumption in that same period: 8.1 , 10.2 ,4.3 ,4.4, -0.5
And Industrial investment: 22.0 , 19.4 ,-7.0,3.1,-5.6
Industrial output itself: 9.7, 6.5, -1.2, -.2 and -2.5
Again what industry are you referring to Quique?
TTT unable to grasp the point as usual.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina Congratulations! Let the dollar rise made the “dream of Icarus” is the same as the Western economy implode, including their companies.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will continue getting what really matters: BRICSA and their new financial system.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-precipitates-the-abandonment-of-the-swift-international-payments-system-among-brics-countries/5480183
In addition, Russia is leaving the Western ashamed. The Russians are technologically far superior to NATO. They have equipment that leave their air and ground troops invisible to enemies.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-precipitates-the-abandonment-of-the-swift-international-payments-system-among-brics-countries/5480183
WOW
#15
Oct 21st, 2015 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do love your Russian bullshit videos, don't you.
You do know that 4 of their cruise missiles fell into the territory of their chums in Iran.
“They have equipment that leave their air and ground troops invisible to enemies.”
How do you know this ? If they are “invisible” how do you know they are actually there .
Have they mastered the Vulcan cloak of invisibility á la Star Trek ?
I could say that we have 3,000 invisible troops in N.Syria. How can you disprove that ?
Russia has a device that prevents the detection of its forces by radar or even satellites. This equipment is installed in northern Syria to not to interfere with civil aviation in Israel. Russian planes cross the border of Turkey and no one sees them.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rebels begin to flee. ISIS can not get more US aid.
At this point it is quite clear something that, most of the islanders or british people, probably don't know because they don't understand the way fascist/peronists think and act. For peronist people be “loyal” to their leader, CFK, is something to be proud of so, they like to show off with their loyalty to “the cause”.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not that strange to read comments posted in forums with the real given and family names basically because they want to be read but mainly they want to be noticed, publically, that they are loyal to their leader.
This is a very common practice if you work in a public institution or company. This loyalty will, eventually, assure them to keep on working there and even with better positions.
Enrique Massot seems to be the perfect example of this kind of peronist people. He does exist, he lives in Canada. I checked him in facebook but I don't know where he works...most probably in a consulate or something like this....
“Russia has a device that prevents the detection of its forces by radar or even satellites. ”
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL ... as the song goes: you are nothing but a dreamer
Briton, do you know something about it?
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Escarro-Vulgar” do not know.
@20 Are you not embarrassed to display your lack of intelligence? You do know that now you have told everyone about the Russians secret that they will be coming after you. Poison is their preferred method. I suggest you do not eat or drink anything ever again; just to be safe.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Watch him disappear off the forums when it all crashes down. They always do. How many K fanatics have come here and disappeared when they are proved wrong? Too many to count.
I trust Briton. I'll wait for him to speak. ElaineB save your wishes.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22 I am just trying to help you. The Russians are ruthless with people giving their secrets away.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just telling you what I'm seeing. Nothing else.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do not worry about me. You worry with your children!” - My JESUS.
@24 No, you definitely confirmed the Russian's secret, here on an open forum. They will be after you.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasileiro, it is something called radar jamming and the truth is that it isn't new and nor is it a secret Russian weapon .. in fact, it was invented by the British during WWII and the standard NATO versions are not only vastly superior to the Russian systems, but NATO have long since figured out how to totally neutralise Russian radar jamming with their own countermeasures. Maybe you should read a little less RT propaganda and bring your reading materials in to the 21st century (or even just the latter half of the 20th century).
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#24 Tobi the white man racist, Do you know how many Russian jets shot down NATO jets in the past 25 years.....and vise versa? Not counting the Russian shot out of the sky like Russia did to the civilians in the Ukraine, last week.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobi/brassole....You're a person of such rare intelligence. It's rare when you show any.
Tobi/brassole.....your so stupid I cannot understand why Kirchner didn't have you as her vice president.
Go back in your papi's cave....he's calling.
Oh....and because you are pretending and wearing your Brazilian brassole hat today......some indicators for you.
http://www.focus-economics.com/countries/brazil
So why the Saxons are not using too?
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So why the Saxons are not using too?”
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are using it. Pretty much every singly NATO fighter is equipped with it. The superiority of the NATO systems is evident in the ease with which Turkey identifies and intercepts Russian fighter :D
I suppose tobi, if you insist on calling all white people Saxons from hundreds of years ago, and should just refer to all South Amazonians and you in particular as the Mestizos. When will you mestizos get your shit together?
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you find the number for NATO versus Russian jets being shot down?
When did Russia last intercept a NATO aircraft over Russian territory? 1960
Oct 21st, 2015 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When did NATO aircraft last intercept Russian aircraft long before the even enter NATO airspace? Almost every day - so much for the glorious Russian systems .. even their strategic bombers carrying nuclear wepons are visible to NATO long before they leave Russian airspace :D
Not to mention that if one looks at the most recent encounters of Russian techology versus USA/NATO in air combat since the original gulf war, the numbers are not good for comrade ruskie.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 21st, 2015 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always amusing to see how MercoPress's Turnips swallow their ration of Anglo brainwash...
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
New record for the Black Market Dollar in Argentina, the article says!!!
16.11 Pesos for one US Dollar two days ago!!!
15.92 Pesos for one US Dollar today!!!
But............................... wait a second...
15.92 Pesos for one US Dollar???
That's ~ the same price the Black Market dollar had on the 13th. September...
The 13th. September 2014, that is...
~ Thirteen months ago :-)))
But... don't take my word for it...
Google it, Turnips...
Chuckle chuckle...
@33
Oct 21st, 2015 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still as thick as ever, aren't you Shitferbrains Think? chuckle chuckle
The article is about the price 2 days ago, so with all those words you still didn't manage to refute that 16.11 is a record low for the Peso.
Or perhaps you really are so stupid that you actually think 15.92 Mickey Mouse Pesos is worse than 16.11 Kirchner Pisspots :D
@33
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The day the current Economy Minister, Axel Kichiloff, started ruling his ministry the value of the official U$D was 6.05 pesos but now, less than two years, each official U$D costs 9.50 pesos......do you think this is funny?
In addition, the current monetary base of the Central Bank (pasive of it) at the U$D official rate is U$D 58.000 million while the “official” reserves (active of it) are U$D 27.000 million...do you know the meaning of this?
What's more the REAL reserves of the Central Bank are almost U$D 5.000 million ...so you have U$D 58.000 million in argentine pesos backed by U$D 5.000 million...YOU CAN LAUGHT NOW...THIS IS REALLY QUITE FUNNY !!!!
The asswipe who purports to live in... Bariloche was it? Sure
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently is clueless to the kirchners futile attempt at flooding the supply side if the dollar. Who gives a shit at the blue dollar....well, I do. Ever visit I get more bang for the buck changing the dollars into pesos........except when I have to use plastic.
Only in Argentina....and Venezuela can it be conceivable to make international currency illegal.......and near impossible to legally buy for a resident. I wonder how many maletas filled with goodies unattainable I will need to bring this time.
@33
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REMEMBER for near future events:
The current monetary base of the Central Bank (pasive of it) at the U$D official rate is U$D 58.000 million while the “official” reserves (active of it) are U$D 27.000 million.
In addition, there are U$D 58.000 million in argentine pesos backed by U$D 5.000 million.
DON'T FORGET THIS.....THIS IS REALLY QUITE FUNNY !!!!
(34) Skåre-Vuggevise
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why all those insults my dear co-scandinavian?
Norwegian inferiority complex, perhaps?
Anyhow...:
30 September 2014...: 1 U$D = 15.92 Argentinean Pesos.
19 October 2015........: 1 U$D = 16.11 Argentinean Pesos.
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
We Argentineans are doomed.................. DOOMED!!!
Chuckle chuckle...
Apart from the inflation 25-30% per annum, the Arg$ was 9.02 to the U$S on the 3rd June this year and today it is Arg$ 9.51 to the U$S I will leave you to do the maths.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The peso is becoming increasingly worthless. No one, including Argentines, wants to touch it and countries throughout Latin America and around the world recognise that Kirchner has turned her country into an economic basket case. No wonder she has had to agree to an unbelievable interest rate to get her loans from China. The Chinese knew they had her over a barrel. Not a pretty sight, I'd add.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not to mention all the AFIP raids on the exchange houses putting fear of arrest for selling U$ . To bad narcos dealers did not have that fear in Argentina. The raids and money affects the price but the Bariloche buffoon ignores that.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THINK
Oct 21st, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good to see your thoughtful posts.
Frankly it's been impressive how the Argentine Peso has held its exchange in such a strong stable situation. Our Peso, despite our conservative central bank and balance sheet, here has been repeatedly devalued like most of the world. Personally, I think good for the economy. (This silly talk about the Dollar losing its importance in world trade has been proved terribly premature.)
You have to tip your hat to Cristina keeping the Argentine economy fairly stable prior to Presidential elections, but we all know it's going to be incredibly difficult to maintain the phantom economy afterwards...
...or do you have a different scenario?
¡saludos!
(42) Chicureo
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you care to check any of Argentinas macroeconomic indicators as for example construction index..., new and used care sales..., energy consumption..., supermarket sales..., whatever...,for the last four/ five months, you will find that, invariably, they are quite positive...
No “Phantom Economy”here... On the contrary...
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/201359/argentina’s-exports-to-fall-more-than-region
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you care to check any of Argentinas macroeconomic indicators for the last four/ five months, you will find that they are quite positive ??? WHAT ????
Even the most fanatic of CFK people that I know recognize that Argentina is in the middle of a crisis. At least try to blame it to Brazil...or balme it to the World that, based on CFK words, “is falling into parts” !!!
Stop smoking paco...Argentina is in the middle of a deep recesion !!!....DON'T LIE THIS WAY...YOU ARE MAKING THE FOOL !!!
Think sounds like Argentina's yankeeboy.........lol.
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New York - NY / U.S.A
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0October 21st, 2015
As far I can even remembered in today's world, it really don't matter what you might even added as an excuses towards to the existent “socialist decayed vortex”.
A truly attempt to use a common stink homemade and smelly cynicism and or perhaps a manipulated socialist sarcasm, commonly used as defense mechanism, commonly used towards to any socialist illiterate fucker's face originated from a shit-hole called fucking Brazil, who currently loves to suck it Russia's certified faggot's cock, while sit on it an empty vodka's bottle.
You might as well consider to purchase it a socialist cordless dildo made in fucking Russia, and or perhaps have a straight anal sex with a local horse, in order to completed your old time proletariat socialist toilet bowl achievement.
Moreover the truth equation's reality in today's world its simple in relation to a fucking decayed Argentina and fucking corrupted to its core Brazil, considered as an unique place on earth's surface, led y currently by two legitimate socialist certified night time whores.
Authentic information from a average Argentinean living in the real Argentina...:
Oct 21st, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://autoblog.com.ar/2015/10/05/asi-fueron-las-ventas-de-septiembre-2015/
http://autoblog.com.ar/2015/10/05/asi-fueron-las-ventas-de-septiembre-2015/
http://autoblog.com.ar/2015/10/05/asi-fueron-las-ventas-de-septiembre-2015/
http://autoblog.com.ar/2015/10/05/asi-fueron-las-ventas-de-septiembre-2015/
Etcetera...
Etcetera...
Etcetera...
Think
Oct 21st, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why all those insults my dear co-scandinavian?”
You aren't a co-Scandinavian. You aren't a co anything ... and pardon me, but didn't you start the insults with “Always amusing to see how MercoPress's Turnips swallow their ration of Anglo brainwash...” when you were spouting your usual certifiable b******s? chuckle chuckle etc etc etc
Min kære (49) Skåre-Vuggevise...
Oct 21st, 2015 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I can see from you above comments..., you didn't respond to MercoPresses Anglo brainwash about Argie economy but to poster Brasileiro..., kindly explaining to him the complete superiority of NATO over Russia and how NATO radars are perfectly able to watch & follow, in real time, almost all russian atomic ballistic missiles from their launching till the moment hit their designed targets ...
Very reassuring indeed....
Ps...:
The Argentinean Black Dollar Market just closed...
15.84 pesos for 1 greenback...
8 cents less than 13 months ago...
Chuckle chuckle
Mange gode hisner til dig og din familie
El Think
@50
Oct 21st, 2015 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ambito Financiero? Tiempo Argentino?...ha ha hahaaaahhhaaaa....even those who live here in Canada know that these are media paid by the Fascists/Peronists...what a clown !!!
Ahhhhhh..., Canada...
Oct 21st, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations with Baby Trudeau...
If he's half the man Papa Trudeau was, things look good for you!
Think is happy...
@52
Oct 21st, 2015 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While you, and your friends, sing “La Marcha Peronista” that is a fascist march of almost 70 years (it was written in 1948), keep on “fighting capitalism” and vote businessmen and narco traders Canada chose a young, and modern, politician of 40 years old.....
Sarmiento wrote: “Civilizacion o barbarie”....nowadays it is quite clear that Canada chose civilization but, sadly, Argentino chose barbarie.
#52 Think
Oct 21st, 2015 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks!
Certainly, Justin Trudeau is a big promise for Canada and has already showed to be a gentleman. In spite of millions in attack ads that depicted him as “not ready,” he pulled from behind and in a brilliant campaign managed to end the nine-year reign of authoritarian, ultra conservative, ideologue of a return to darkest ages, Stephen Harper.
To complete a week of good things, now I look forward to the triumph of the Victory Front, so that Argentina can continue walking forward. (In spite of the naysayers from inside and outside).
A sad example is pgerman, who keeps clamoring Kirchnerists are...(play trumpets and ukuleles)...FAS-CISTS!!!! (But don't tell anyone how--only German knows that).
Ahhh Reekie, your soooo fucked up.
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you want another 4 years of corruption and mismanagement for Argentina.
@54
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't try to play the role of canadian liberals...you have nothing in common with them. You are a the opposite. You are a peronist which means you are a fascist who likes populism...NOTHING IN COMMON !!!
Domingo Faustino Sarmiento wrote: “Civilizacion o barbarie”....nowadays it is quite clear that Canada chose civilization but, sadly, Argentino chose barbarism.
Liberalismo = Civilizacion
Peronismo = Barbarie
Last Friday there occurred the largest short position on rotting roadkill currency futures since 2001.
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The betting money says that the K's will retain power and that the whole enterprise is going down the tubes.
Viva la perronistas (in perpetuity or that is until the place is liquidated, busted up and sold to the adjoiners.)
Think
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0There was no need to respond, because the only ones who are brainwashed about Argie “economy” are those cretins, like yourself, who don't recognise a dead parrot when the see one :D
Look matey; this Argie “economy” of yours wouldn't voom if you put four thousand volts through it! It's bleedin' demised!
Here is the clueless man who supports Argentina's elected dictators. You love Venezuela too Quequi?
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Easier to spot now.
https://twitter.com/ehmassot
You should visit Argentina think, opps I mean quequi.
#56 pgerman
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Liberalismo = Civilizacion
Peronismo = Barbarie”
Wow German.
Prey tell MP readers why the “barbaric” government of Juan Peron was deposed by a bloody coup in 1955 whose authors then banned Peronism as a political expression for two decades, famously failing to make it disappear?
@60
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Based on the post of Captain Poppy it seems that you support the current venezuelian government. Does anybody need another proof of Enrique's support to fascist governments?
The “barbaric”, fascist and populist government of Juan Domingo Peron (the very same person who decorated Francisco Franco, Augusto Pinochet and Alfredo Stroessnerr) was deposed by a coup for several reasons. The main one is that the peronist party illegally changed the Natiuonal Constitution aiming to keep on ruling the country for decades.
Peronism was banned as nazi party is currently banned in Germany. Unlukily they failed to make peronism desapear from history.
Peronism appeared in 1946. Since them they ruled Argentina 53% of the time. Since 1984 peronism ruled the country 75% of the time. Since 1984 peronismo ruled Provincia de Buenos Aires 87.5% of the time....The results and achievements of peronism can be seen daily.....
#61 pgerman
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Peronism was taken down by a bloody, illegal coup d'etat by the armed forces which continued a tradition they had already started in 1930 and continued until 1976, of deposing constitutionally elected governments.
The armed forces were of course the executors of the politics of a reactionary Argentine oligarchy that for half a century prevented any progressive government (not only peronist) from steering the country towards economic independence and social justice.
And no amount of patching can cover that.
Gee Quequi.....are you going to re-write history and ignore the bloody coup d' estat that put that old Army Colonel into power? Or......is that a good coup?
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pgerman most non-indoctrinated people see the ultimate goal of Peronism.....one party utopia like Cuba. They don't rule independent city of Buenos Aires, as much as they want to. Cunt lips we be running in 4 years........bookmark this post. But it will not matter much by then.
@62
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The illegal coup d'etat tradition started in 1930 with the support of the church and conservative and nacionalist parties ending the “liberal Argentina” and starting the “Nacionalist Argentina”. Peron was part, he was Colonel, of the coup d'etat of 1930. Peronism was the political continuation of this coup d'etat.
The second presidency of J. D. Peron was an illegal government because the National Constitution was illegally changed. You cannot ignore this.
There were some people executed by those who organized the coup d'etat. This was clearly wrong but peronism took revange with the killings of Montoneros and Accion Argentina Anticomunista. Two bllody peronist organization that killed plenty of people during the '70. You cannot ignore this.
Would that be an.....inconvenient truth?
Oct 22nd, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's about the time Quequi ran away from Argentina and never looked back.
#64 pgerman
Oct 23rd, 2015 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will agree with you on one thing: too much blood was shed between 1930 and 1983 in Argentina.
However, the country has come a long way since then, by establishing a more stable democracy, thanks to men such as former president Alfonsin in the 1980s.
Democracy is now well established in Argentina.
Many of those who, usurped the state and used its resources to kidnap, torture and murder fellow country people in the 1970s have been prosecuted, convicted, and are now behind bars.
On Sunday the country will again exercise its right to elect a new government.
That, to me, is enough to celebrate.
THE BOMB THAT NEVER EXPLOTED.
Oct 23rd, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next sunday we are going to choose a new president, but without suffering any of the social and economic calamities that some of those cretins called economists, who are usually invited by our hegemonical press, have warned for the country since 2003.
This should be criticised also by those hypocrites who often complain about the denounces of corruption cases that involve C. F. K's administration only, and who dare to give us lessons of democracy.
The only one thing that those rabbles have done, was to scare people, with the purpose of getting social acceptance for the reactionary policies that destroyed this country for decades, in fact, they repeated once and again that if the government didn't do a hard cut on our national budget, then the economy was going to suffer a catastrophic crisis, beside, they used to say something similar in relation to our conflict with the vultures, in fact, they tried to make us believe that if C. F.K's government didn't comply with the usurious rulling of an adict judge like Griesa, then the bomb was going to explote soon, now my question is, have you heard the noice?, i ask you this because if after more than one year of Griesa's decision, our economy is growing, then it shows clearly that it would have been an absolut imbecile decision to pay those sons of a bitch what they pretended, instead of defending our two debt restructurings.
If in this conflict there was a monolitic posture by all politic parties, as it happens with the malvinas cause, perhaps the vultures accepted to charge what all the rest of holders got, however they insisted on their posture, because they heard that those imbeciles called conservatives (Macri, Massa, etc), manifested that they will comply with Griesa's decision, or with something too similar, if they win the election, now they don't say it anymore, because they know it's a too stupid mistake.
Ultra low carbon footprint transport of ballot boxes to isolated Argentinean communities....
Oct 23rd, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://img.lagaceta.com.ar/fotos/galerias/2133/0003.jpg
Geeeeee......
Sometimes I really luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv me Country...:-)))
@ 68 LUNATIC
Oct 23rd, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the photo of TMBOA dancing with her legs in the air, a position she is very used to, especially when Putin or The Chin President are in TDC.
Ashame that she did not pull a Christopher Reeve on that horse.
Oct 23rd, 2015 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And now the blue dollar is 16.09......interesting to see what it will be Monday.
Maybe stink will tune in from Lake Cochrane.
#68
Oct 24th, 2015 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes I really luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv me Country...:-))
The corollary of that is that other times you don't and the inference is that most of the time you don't.
(71) Clyde15
Oct 24th, 2015 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope...., the corollary of that is that other times I just luuuuuuuuuv me Country and the inference is that most of the time I plain luuuuv me Country.
:-)))
#72
Oct 24th, 2015 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, strange as it sounds, I suppose someone has to love Argentina !
67 axel arg
Oct 25th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“THE BOMB THAT NEVER EXPLOTED”
I think you mean:- “The bomb that never exploded”
Now, where is YankeeBoy when you need him? He saw this coming and he did warn you. You didn't listen to him then and I'll bet you wouldn't listen to him now.
Where ever he is I bet he'll be saying something like:-
“I don't want to say I told you so but I did”
and
“Damn!! I just hate being right all the time”
Still, all that matters is that you think that KFC has done a GREAT job for argentina.......oh well, fools never differ.
He's still around .....read some fine print.
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