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Cristina Fernandez calls at emotional rally to defend her progressive policies

Friday, October 30th 2015 - 07:15 UTC
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Argentina's outgoing leader Cristina Fernandez gave an emotional campaign speech on Thursday in her first public address since a surprisingly weak performance by her handpicked candidate in the first-round presidential election on Sunday. Without mentioning allied candidate Daniel Scioli by name, the outgoing president implicitly backed him by calling for support for her progressive social policies to go on after she hands the presidency over to her successor in six weeks. Read full article


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  • Klingon

    168 minutes of verbal vomit spewing from the casa Rosada while her toothless supporters with a combined IQ of 87 listen in awe.

    Didn't even mention the name of the soon to be terminated candidate.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    She should have stayed quiet.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    She is digging Scioli's grave.

    Most appropriate Haloween photo, the scariest sight yet.. Lol!

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I wonder if something will happen to her in search of her “sympathy” vote? I don;t think that will happen this time.

    “Who is the candidate who can guarantee our policies continue?”

    Very simple.....if you want to be like Venezuela, keep my policies, if you want to work, acquire personal independence and regain a country, vote for Macri.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    El Vox - indeed so strikingly Haloween and yet another nail in her and Scioli's coffin. May the M&Ms roll, and may the witch ejoy her years of retirement explaining to the courts as to how she failed the country and her supposed faithful, while exponentially expanding her personal wealth and that of her immediate cronies.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I am pretty sure she knows that at this stage she is poison to any candidate so why make a statement at all? It is her ego talking.

    Do we think she is starting to regret treading on so many people? If she had not pissed off Massa………..

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    She has no shame and was as arrogant as usual. During the almost three hours of delirious ranting it appeared at times that she doesn't realize that the game is over.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Urrrrrgh! The day of the dead down in BA!

    A corpse has risen!

    Fully expecting an alien to burst out of that neck any minute!!!

    Strange strangled noises coming out of its mouth too?

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Reminded me of Halloween as well.
    I know it's marginal but she looks better with her teeth in.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    am not a candidate for anything,” said Cristina Fernandez

    So shut up and soddy offy,
    no one likes you,
    no one will miss you,
    no one will remember you.

    go away .....

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    An interesting picture in this article. The use of sign language tells all !

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    Dead witch flying. Go get your broomstick, Kretina - see you in court.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    The witch is dead !!!!
    The Witch is dead !!!!

    Margaret and CFK....both witches are dead !!!

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    The thing about describing something as “progressive” implies that it's conducive to progress. There has to be some.

    An increase in violent crime, and a severe depreciation in education, financial freedom, and indoctrinated morons is anything but progress.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    She will never be forgotten. In 10 years from now her 'Model' will be shown as an example of how to destroy an economy. Argentina is already discussed as a basket-case economy but when the full extent of her mismanagement is revealed it will be held up as a warning to all.

    She will be infamous.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • diefra

    Her bullyng speech against to those who votes the opposition it was a shame , Probably she will celebrates hallowen tomorrow

    As Scorpion s song wind of changes is blowing in Argentina

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre Anti-K.

    The Whore La Plata's one chance to head off the whole big avalanche of criminal proceedings heading her way .... that or a short luxurious exile, funded by her offshore millions, until extradition eventually catches up with her.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Ha, once again no mention of “Las Malvinas”.

    Lost her bottle, nerves shot, a has been.

    Probably wander off into the mountains of Patagonia, wailing and moaning, gibbering gibberish whilst pulling at her hair, like some demented banshee.

    And the Campora Malvinazis can be told “one day brothers, when Argentina needs her, she will return”.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    @18 Very sinister like Arnie - ”I'll be back!”

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 18 & 19

    A bit difficult if she has been 'suicided'. :o)

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    They tried that with “Freddie”, several times.

    Not to mention “Son Of” sequils.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I think some of you are underestimating how popular she is with a sector of Argentine society. It may be that they are the voting minority now - we will find out soon - but they are a significant number. They have been inculcated with the belief that Kirchnerism is the only way and CFK is a born again Evita. Look at the Youtube clips of their La Campora meetings; they are fanatics. Brainwashed and not too clever.

    In addition to that, the Kirchnerites are spreading fear across the social media. 'Vote Macri and you get Menem', 'Scioli is a fascist'. Given that whoever is the next President will have the ticking bomb economy explode in their hands - don't rule out her return.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “ I don't want to see ruined what it took us years to build!”

    A crap economy?

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Is her cell ready? The spanish were big on garroting.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Note the flagrant contradiction in the above story:
    “Cristina, which injected to politics a confrontation Bush-style, “with me or against me” and was funded with years of free-spending populism.”
    Firstly, comparing Cristina with Bush is not only a stretch: it's disingenuous.
    Secondly, the “free-spending populism” is a cliche used by backward politicians that seeks to install the idea that supporting the poor would be intrinsically BAD. (Giving freebies to corporations and wealthy individuals is usually good to these wide-eyed ideologists, who will tell you--without smiling--when the rich get richer they MAY give some to charities so the poor will be happy ever after).
    Further down in the story, however, we find the author concedes that, perhaps, some of what the Kirchners did for the destitute was, perhaps, appreciated.
    “Loved by many of the country's poor for strengthening Argentina's social safety net.”
    This sums up Nestor and Cristina's fundamental accomplishment. If Cristina were loved by the estancieros or the bankers, that could cause doubt about her role.
    But no. She sided with the weakest, and for that, she is deserving of lasting recognition.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    And she still did not mention the British Falkland's.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @25 Enrique Massot
    She has left the country virtually bankrupt, again, massively in debt with raging inflation and an economy spiralling downwards.

    I must admit you cannot blame here for the fall in commodity prices, but you can for Argentina’s almost total dependency on selling commodities.

    As Churchill said “the problem with socialism is that sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money to spend.”

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    A going away pressy.



    Oct 30th, 2015 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Approaching a nine year low on cash reserves . . . .

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    That was Thatcher, not Churchill.

    The net effect of the commodity slow-down isn't very big for Argentina since the country is benefitting from much lower costs of imported energy. Rather, the recession in Brazil is biting the Argentine economy, but not nearly as much as the endemic mismanagement of the country's economy.

    In the midst of this chaos one have a couple of millions of @25's who live in the 18th century when, in fact, the economy was (almost) a zero-sum game and people got rich on other's behalf. Newsflash for him and his likes: It isn't like that any longer; these days entrepreneurs are driving economic growth. Why else has the Western world skyrocketed in wealth and human development while others (LatAm and Africa) have remained in the doldrums?

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @25. How long will it be before she's killed? The argie discontented. British Royal Marine snipers taking revenge? British SAS? She'd look so much better with an exploded skull. Just to make up for Nisman.

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Headline should read
    'Mad woman makes emotional attempt to stay out of jail'

    Oct 30th, 2015 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “But when I leave, please God, I don't want to see ruined what it took us years to build!”

    Build or destroy? Her government has been as successful as the 1000 year Reich.

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Definitely keep Kirchner's policies going. Its been fun watching a useless country go down.

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @32 Frank

    “Headline should read
    'Mad woman makes emotional attempt to stay out of jail' ”

    Ha ha ... ROFLMFAO !!!

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Unfortunately, as much as we'd all love to see her jailed, even though it has no impact on any of us but Argentines, the reality is, even if Macri wins, that will not happen.

    What is funny. The desperation that she is displaying is showing in Quique's/Tobi's posts. What will really be interesting to see is how the Kirchnerista's will attempt to alter the outcome's on the election.

    I also noticed they the election feel on a holiday weekend so they moved the holiday. WTF is wrong with these people? Holiday's are more important than a presidential election?

    What the hell ever happened to Bobo the clown VP?

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @36 I agree, I doubt she will ever be brought to justice. Though, to be fair, it is never good for any country to drag former Presidents through the courts. Better to look ahead and try rebuilding the economy.

    CFK is desperate because her ability to steal will be severely restricted once she is out of office. Not entirely cut off as she still holds the cards down in her home province. And if she cannot keep hidden the reality from the majority, there will be less chance of her coming back.

    If Scioli wins, he is Kirchnerite-light so won't want the full extent of the mess to come out. Marci will want to expose it completely so there is no chance of her coming back; ever. He will make sure the blame is firmly placed at her door.

    I don't have a dog in the fight but the current 'Model' is unsustainable and the furture grim for Argentina unless they adopt a market friendly stance.

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    Some of those who comment above show sheer contempt for a country that claims the place they feel theirs. As I said before, their contempt is easy to understand--but having a distorted vision of the facts is not.
    Their catastrophic vision of an Argentina in ruin is of course shared by opponents anxious to get their hands on a country's that is a far cry from its 2001 situation.
    According to a World Bank's report--updated Sep 22, 2015--“The economy grew steadily during the past decade. Argentina has invested heavily in health and education, areas which account for 8% and 6% of GDP, respectively.”
    This is what gives the country a more solid base today, beyond the ups and downs of the economy.
    “Between 2003 and 2009, the middle class doubled in size, from 9.3 million to 18.6 million.”
    Again, this fact is not reversed during temporary conjunctures.
    “The country has prioritized social spending through various programs, including the Universal Child Allowance, which reaches approximately 3.7 million children and adolescents up to age 18, 9.3% of the population.”
    This is another huge improvement that will be difficult for any government to reverse.
    Of course all is not rosy today as the same WB report shows but shows the counter cyclical measures taken:
    “In recent months the country’s fiscal situation has deteriorated due to growing outside pressures, particularly the worsening economic situation in Brazil. ”During the first half of 2015, the primary deficit reached 1% of GDP and the fiscal deficit, which includes debt payments, doubled from a year ago to 2.3% of GDP. While public sector revenue rose 29% in nominal terms during the first half of the year compared to a year earlier, spending rose even more at 40%. Growth for 2015 is estimated at about 0.5%.”
    Again, Argentina is far from catastrophe as invoked by the prophets of gloom and doom.

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @38 Your view is entirely distorted as you admit you have not been to Argentina for a very long time. All you have to form an opinion is the propaganda from the K's and cherry picking a few favourable words.

    You have to understand you are basing your comments on bare-faced lies. That and your slavish devotion to a woman who has ruined Argentina rather undermines your credibility.

    Oct 31st, 2015 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    Here is a little video that shows what this kind of emotional politics cause to people.
    I this case, it's about a girl crying because Macri won. Here is the link:
    (or you can search “nena llora porque gano macri”)

    The terrible thing here is that this girl (8 yo?) is crying because she has been conditioned into thinking that if Macri wins, he will sell the entire country. His mom -in a reassuring fashion- tells her that if Macri wins she will take her to Plaza the mayo to kick him out.


    This is embarrassing. This is atrocious. This is the K hate message breaking havoc in children.

    If you take a look at this video, you will see it obvious that these people are not poor neither uneducated.

    I do consider this kind of thing to be child abuse. This kid's mom should be prosecuted.

    Nov 01st, 2015 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    The latest fear being spread everywhere is that Macri is anti-women and the feminists are being stirred up. Macri may be a bit of a tool but how does that make him anti-women. If you used that paradigm to classify a man's attitude to women you would have to include about 50 % of Argentine men. There are a lot of twatty men around but that doesn't make them anti-women.

    And there are conferences being held where anti-Macri economists are 'explaining' to people why his policies won't work.

    Desperate methods but what is really worrying is how susceptible people are. They just accept anything they are told without the ability of critical thinking. How did they make the population so malleable?

    Nov 01st, 2015 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy


    Tobi, nice stats. Do you recall the post and what article you posted to me and I papaphrase:

    “So impressive to be throwing stats around, but the facts and stats do not paint the whole picture”.

    Of course it does, only, you cut the last 6 years off, why is that?

    Enlighten me and perhaps that readers here would enjoy the light as well.

    Tell me/us what exactly do YOU consider (contracted by Kirchner) middle class to be in Argentina in terms of annual salary?

    Do you know what the daily amount of pesos to havae in Argentina to NOT be considered poor?

    Oh, please update us, the readers on crime stats.

    Do you know what it takes to purchase real estate a home that is in Argentina, the mortgage (snicker) process?

    ““In recent months the country’s fiscal situation has deteriorated due to growing outside pressures, particularly the worsening economic situation in Brazil. ”

    So Brazil farts and Argentina gets diarrhea? I would say that is one country wellness affects the entire economy, you have too many eggs in one basket tobi. What probably is the most troublesome with Peronistas and Kirchnerista's is the lack of accountability. They never seem to face reality and hold themselves responsible for ANYTHING. The buck stops everywhere BUT at them.

    And the best irony Quique, id that you have to resort to using worldbank stats. The sworn enemy of Argentina Peronistas for having lent money to Argentina. Use INDEC's Oh dear, the website is down. Maybe a DOS attack. Afterall terrorists called the government and warned of a attack on a mall in Buenos Aires. Times are tough when Al Qaeda calls with warnings. I guess a kinder, gentler Al Qaeda.

    Nov 01st, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Don't know what all the fuss is about...if you look at the BA Herald front page it would appear that Scioli has already won.

    In fact in one article it actually said he had 'won the election but there would have to be a run off'.

    I wonder how long their editorial staff will stick around for.

    Nov 01st, 2015 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #42 Cptn Poppy
    As the Italian song says: “Paroles, paroles, paroles...”
    You may try to even bring Al Qaeda into the conversation, but you can't erase the depth of the transformation the Kirchners have fostered in Argentina:
    1. They obtained 70 per cent reduction on most of the foreign debt. The government has resisted the vultures, a minor incident in this context. No Argentine government--ever--got even close to that.
    2. Once they obtained the debt restructuring, they paid obligations, regularly and on time.
    3. They paid off the debt with the IMF in 2006, allowing the country to craft its own economic policies without outside interference.
    4. The Kirchners supported the small and medium enterprises, ending a sad tradition of favouring imports and killing local jobs.
    5. They supported health, education and the arts--including the artists.
    6. The Universal Child Allocation allows the poorest unemployed to get some income--on the condition they keep their children in school and vaccinated. This reduces the amount of children abandoning school prematurely and keeps their families in the economic circuit.
    7. The Kirchners got back key strategic companies such as YPF and Aerolineas Argentinas and improved the railway system.
    8. They permitted the courts to prosecute those involved crimes against humanity during the 1970s dictatorship.
    9. The Kirchners allowed over three million citizens who had incomplete or no contributions to take retirement.
    10. They legislated same-sex marriage and state-assisted fertility, putting Argentina with the most socially advanced countries.
    There is much more, but this should suffice as a sample.
    What the opposition has to say?
    Oh, yes, they--including the Clarin group--make all sorts of vague, unproven claims--just as some of the writers above--about “money” the Kirchners would have “stolen” and a prosecutor they may have “suicided.”
    Not a word about the Kirchners' policies.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    So you don't think that crooks like CFK should be prosecuted for wrong doing, my God we do live in a benevolent world. Why should a President be any different to the sneak thief that stole someones private possessions. What kind of message are you sending to ALL thieves out there? All THIEVES ought to be banged up as a deterrent to others with that idea in mind. I appreciate that the so called law in Latam grinds slowly ( Nisman case ) nearly 9 months now and still no one will say “ murder or suicide ” Basket cases I am afraid. Only the electorate can decide but they are too apathetic.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Elaine is correct that it is not good for a country and best to let them wither away in obscurity. Though life is always a full circle and everything comes back. Kirchner will pay in others ways for her corruption and thievery.

    I wonder how idiots like that Canadain, Enrique Massot reconcile the Kirchners ten years wealth spurt of over 1200% yet having trouble with the so called vulture funds CONTRACT at 10% annum?

    Al Qaeda was raised by Kirchner's chief you ignorant mountain man.

    Tobi/Enrique you're a lost cause and since you have not touched foot in Argentina in over thirty years, I say:


    TAKE A VACATION THERE.........WHY DO YOU NOT??????????????????????

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Enrique just comes here to shit-stir. He can't possibly believe the nonsense he posts about CFK and the 'stolen decade' - as people living in Argentina call it.

    How long before CFK pulls out the widow weeds again? She wore them for years because she thought they were lucky for her. Have you noticed how it has all gone down hill since she started wearing colour again? Just sayin'.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    Argentinians consider themselves, especially the Portenos, as particularly sophisticated people. If they're so sophisticated, why do they fall for the fear-mongering lunacy and lies from the government about what the opposition will do? I'm perplexed by that. They're supposedly so sophisticated and savvy, yet they simply accept at face value whatever they're told to accept from the Kirchnerites, Kichneristas, etc. I've been all over Argentina, and I know there are some smart, normal people who don't buy into the bullshit. But the rest of them....I don't get it.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #46 Cptn Poppy
    Again, Cptn Poppy resorts to incoherent ramblings in lieu of arguments, assorted with the old tired cliche that “you do not live there.”
    Como on!
    Do I check where the heck do you live? No, of course not.
    I check postings here for good arguments, no matter whether I agree with them or not.
    Yours, sadly, abound in epithets but lack both content and substance.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @49 Enrique

    The point of Capt Poppy's posts is that he lives there part of the time, with family, in their homes, and talks with their neighbours and friends.

    He witnesses FIRST-HAND, what life is like there and how government social and economic policies affect the people.

    You, on the other hand, do NOT live or work there, and likely have not done so for decades.

    What you 'know' about life in Argentina, is what the CFK Peronist government tells you.

    The Argentina of the 1970's or 80's is forever gone - it exists only in your memory. Remind us why you left, never to return. It must have been a good reason.

    The great 'achievements' of the K's, the 70% non-negotiated writedown of $100b of bonds held by individual investors, 'nationalising' private pension funds of workers who paid into them, and re-distributing them to 3 million who did not, would be illegal as well as immoral in other countries.

    Nationalised Aerolineas Argentinas, over-staffed by La Campora, seems to be a black hole for public money - where has it all gone?

    In short, the REAL majority seem tired of this, and it is showing in the first round of voting.

    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    incoherent ramblings? Arguement? WTF is arguing as there is nothing to argue about old man.

    Not living there is a valid position as you do not live under that restrictive regime and if you did, or at least visited, reality would be setting in.


    TAKE A VACATION THERE.........WHY DO YOU NOT??????????????????????

    Get a live if arguments gives you hardons, because peoples lives in Argentina is at stake and you are clueless to what takes place there.

    Oh.....I moved, but it's just outside of Boston. Before that, choose a base and I was probably there.

    You know Tobi, idiots watch war movies and google the shit out of it and think they have a feel for it. There is no substitute for reality and empirical knowledge for anything that we do in life regardless of how much YOU want to google it. And that is applicable to life in Argentina as well.

    You not only left for a reason, you never returned.


    Nov 02nd, 2015 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    #51 Cptn. Poppy
    Captain, I suggest you have a bad case of intolerance and are desperate trying to chase away somebody who happens to disagree with most writers in this board.
    Remember Captain: even from far away, my position is backed by 9 (nine) million Argentines that do live in the country and whom I trust. Votes for Macri were 8.3 million. I won't risk adding voters of Sergio Massa because we don't know yet how many will vote for Scioli, but I have already heard a bunch of them saying their Peronist roots prevent them from voting for Macri.
    Listen to my friendly advise: don't waste your keyboard time trying to shoo me away, cuz I'll stay around, if nothing else just because it is soooo much fun to read your rants!

    Nov 03rd, 2015 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @44...the only thing missing from that list is free beer para todos.

    'Free' stuff is great... pity that it isn't really free and KFC never had the money to pay for it without stealing and plundering.

    Nov 03rd, 2015 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @52 Enrique

    “Listen to my friendly advise: don't waste your keyboard time trying to shoo me away, cuz I'll stay around, if nothing else just because it is soooo much fun to read your rants”

    So regardless of whose facts stand up or prove themselves to be true, you'll keep beating the 'K' drum?

    So much for you objectivity and journalistic professionalism.

    Nov 03rd, 2015 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @54 I told you he was just here to shit-stir.

    Nov 04th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    No one, including me is trying to shoo you away, we all love a good chukle at your ignorant post.

    Ever your post there is a feeble attempt at spinning. Slice those numbers some more.

    9 million for many against Scioli?

    15,845,686 Against a Scioli presidency. These numbers are now meaningless until later this month.

    Will you ever answer my questions, or do you ignore them because of fear or ignorance??

    How must does a middleclass Argentine earn in salary per year in pesos?

    Why will you not even visit your homeleand, we'll forget asking about moving back?

    You have no clue what the reality is there.

    DO you support Venezuela as does Kirchner?

    9 million for Scioli, just about the abject poverty level in Argentina.

    Nov 04th, 2015 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Enrique has no answers. That involve thinking and drawing an inconvenient conclusion.

    Far better for him to fall back upon the reassuring rhetoric of the K's.

    There is obvious public discontent with the current government, on a large scale.
    Much of it is reflected in news stories and questions raised in Clarin, a non-government controlled outlet.

    As for government news sources - it's all 'bread and circuses' - free football and Malvinas bashing... !

    Nov 04th, 2015 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yessireee.....Kirchner's gave out free TVs at the last elections for Futbol, handed out fish in Puerto Madero, even claimed that eating pork is great for the sex life. Of course when that moron kirchner said that, everyone thought that she meant pig.

    Nov 04th, 2015 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    @57, 58

    Please guys, don't get me started.

    If I were Macri and I were to win the run-off in two weeks, I would immediately ban football for two years and steer a constitutional reform to remove that stoopid amendment about Malvinas sovereignity.

    Nov 05th, 2015 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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