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Falklands MLA hopes for ‘saner’ approach from new Argentine president
Falkland Islands lawmakers have reacted with caution and expectation to the election of Mauricio Macri, ex Buenos Aires mayor, as Argentina's next president. He will succeed on 10 December Cristina Fernandez and twelve years of rough relations with Kirchnerism and constant intimidation. Read full article
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Nov 27th, 2015 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0removing their constitution would be a step forward.
Nov 27th, 2015 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Mid week he announced the country’s foreign minister will be Susana Malcorra currently Head of the Cabinet of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon. She will replace Hector Timmerman,”
Nov 27th, 2015 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0How ironic.
Gollum made every effort to get to the UN where he made Argentina a laughing stock, whilst Susana was already at the UN all the time presumably doing something useful.
An Argentinian that has no idea of the UN charter, being replaced by someone, hopefully who understands how the UN works and has done some research into the UN Charter.
I hope she is intelligent enough to be able to read the defunct UN resolution 2065 and to be able to understand what it is saying, i.e. the meaning of the words 'request,' 'Independence,' 'Interests' the U N Charter', 'the population'.
“I never quite understood the sovereignty claims of such a big country as ours. We don't have a space problem. Malvinas will become an additional deficit for the country's accounts.”
Common Sense.
Why claim Islands no Argentine actually wants to live in?
There is an obvious reason why most Argentines do not live in the South of their country.
Why claim the Islands resources when Argentina have plenty of their own they don't exploit?
And as Macri points out, by the time the Argentines take to wreck the successful economy built up by the Islanders, it would then absorb huge amounts of money from Argentine coffers to support what would be a colonial outpost as few Argentines would wish to live there. If they did, those Argentines will already be living in Patagonia where there is more space.
At least if Macri cannot politically drop the Malvinas Myth, he might succeed in making Argentina less of a laughing stock, these posts may well replace the priceless entertainment afforded to us by Timmerman Filmus , Bogbrush, etc by some altrustic hope that Argentines get a better life and stop bullying the Islanders to offset their failures.
“Unlike Cristina Fernandez he has declared no intention of having a Minister dedicated to the issue of the Falkland Islands”
Nov 27th, 2015 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hopefully we have seen the last of infamous Filmus.
@3. Itremains important that argieland abandons its fraudulent and invalid claims. It's good to see that the FIG remains cautious. In fact, Islanders should note that, more than 30 years after being beaten, argies still insist on “claiming”. This should say something about how long “normalisation” may take. The time-scale should now be seen as a minimum of 50 years, remembering the 10 years of “friendliness” that was only a stratagem. “Mr. Macri has made it clear he is committed to the principle of Argentine sovereignty over the Falkland Islands”. So “normalisation” should be seen as a minimum of 50 years away. If Macri retracted argieland's claim immediately, there should be no change until at least the end of 2065.
Nov 27th, 2015 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if Macri proves a good president, he'll still have to deal with almost 50% of Argentines who voted for Scioli and still think CFK & Co. are wonderful.
Nov 27th, 2015 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Nov 27th, 2015 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct. Even if Macri is sensible to want better links with the UK, he still needs to be told of the Malvinas Myth. Argentina needs help and the UK holds all the cards.
He will perhaps understand British psychology well. If people are friendly to the UK, it seems that anything is offered. Many, including Galteiri saw this as an inherent weakness, but getting caught out when they attack us, not understanding that with the British back-to-the -wall psyche, removing friendship results in the UK removing theirs equally quickly, usually with catastrophic results to the enemy.
If Macri takes the micky, he'll find out the folly of that.
The UK holds all the cards. Argentina needs our help, not the other way around and the Falklands will remain in the hands of those who live there.
I take your point. However friendly Macri is, the Malvinas Myth is still a myth and Macri should be challenged to prove Argentina's claims (they can't because as you say they are invalid) or drop them.
“we may see a saner approach”
Nov 27th, 2015 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, The MAD Bitch of Argentina, lovingly coined by me as TMBOA will be gone, but if she has her way not forgotten as 'leader' of the losers.
Macri will not be able to ditch the stupid claim because of all the present generation and the coming one being completely and utterly brainwashed.
He has far more important things to deal with if he wants a second term.
“Macri will not be able to ditch the stupid claim because of all the present generation and the coming one being completely and utterly brainwashed.”
Nov 27th, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be easier to change their religion....oh, wait, Malvinism IS their religion..!
TMBOA..? I've been scratching my head over that one since I came here...lol..!
Very sensible approach as both leaders admitted first there is a difference between their two countries and agreed on the need to a path of open dialogue . This is marvelous as UN and multilateralism will prevail, not only because of Ms Malcorra's appointment. Both leaders agreed on the existence of a bilateral issue between the two countries and dialogue as the means to solve this. A more UN-like approach is impossible!
Nov 27th, 2015 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds a reasonable bloke, hope we can do business and improve relations.
Nov 27th, 2015 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This is marvelous as UN and multilateralism will prevail, not only because of Ms Malcorra's appointment. Both leaders agreed on the existence of a bilateral issue between the two countries and dialogue as the means to solve this. A more UN-like approach is impossible!”
Nov 28th, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The same old delusional thinking, somehow the UN can do for Argentina what it cannot do for itself - obtain control of the Falkland Islands. How can Argentina expect the UN to set aside all its principles involving self-determination and human rights just to satisfy Argentina’s extremely specious historical claim to the Falkland’s?
For any form of ‘dialogue’ to take place, Argentina must apologise and make restitution for its behaviour towards The Falkland Islander and for the illegal war it started in 1982. It must also with withdraw its unilateral claim to the Islands and amend its constitution.
Gavin Short on the brains....
Nov 28th, 2015 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great welcome to the new Government...
“A Saner approach”
Therefore implying that Argentina was insane...
“Lying for many years”....Calling Argentina liars....
Public insults...great start...like I said...Short on the brains....
It's almost as insane as the Brits establishing a base for a short time...on a a very small island out-with the main islands, knowing they were already occupied by the Spanish...then abandoning it for 60 years and then believing that this gives them total sovereignty of the whole archipelago....
Now that is insane....
Or is there a different History that I don't know about....
@13 wee“voice”Troll
Nov 28th, 2015 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Gavin Short on the brains....
Great welcome to the new Government...
“A Saner approach”
Therefore implying that Argentina was insane...
“Lying for many years”....Calling Argentina liars....
Public insults...great start...like I said...Short on the brains.... ”
Oh, you are so clever!
“Gavin Short on the brains.... ” - you are a wit, aren't you?
Did you come up with that little bon mot, and then decide that you needed a curmudgeonly rant to showcase it?
I'm sure its just as clear to Macri, as it is to everyone else, that he was calling the previous President “insane” and a “liar”.
Macri will be in full agreement.
Now, go show off somewhere else, nobody here has patience for a jealous fool and liar.
@3 “
Nov 28th, 2015 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why claim Islands no Argentine actually wants to live in?
There is an obvious reason why most Argentines do not live in the South of their country.
Why claim the Islands resources when Argentina have plenty of their own they don't exploit?”
It is not just about the land... it's about standing up to a world power who thinks they can get away with anything, who thinks they can rule the world and expect everyone to be glad they are getting raped just because they don't pillage and burn but use trade instead, and who impose their language and cultures to other people without even them even realizing it.
The land it just the MacGuffin we need to get our dignity back.
15 Magnus
Nov 28th, 2015 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0True - you lost your dignity, but only when left to your own devices.
You had great advantages, but Peron's pride and greed threw them away - and you cling to that legacy.
You turned on your neighbours, Chile and the Falklands, and lost a war you started, and surrendered to an inferior force.
Most recently, you tore up trade and maritime resource agreements, and refused to repay loans.
For the past ten years you have only embarrassed yourselves further, by crying “it's not fair” to anyone who will listen.
Meanwhile, your non English speaking neighbours are overtaking you economically and many other ways.
# 15 “The land it just the MacGuffin we need to get our dignity back.”
Nov 28th, 2015 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get your dignity back – by usurping the Falkland Islands against the will of the inhabitants? That act is going to dignify Argentina? That is strange thinking indeed, what sort of a sorry assed people are you?
Argentina is behaving like a post-revolutionary country that is unsure of its status and image amoung the nations of the world. So it tries to mimic the behaviour of its old Spanish colonial master and colonise other people’s lands.
At least you are honest when you admit that Aregentina has lost its dignity. If Argentina is to ever going to recover its dignity and respect in the eyes of the world, it needs to grow up and start taking responsibility for its actions and that includes being a good neighbour.
Argentina could have it all – all it has to do is radically change its thinking and behaviour.
“and who impose their language and cultures to other people without even them even realizing it.”
Nov 28th, 2015 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0What like Spanish/Portuguese being the original languages of South America?
The Falklands is the only place in South America where language/culture hasn't been imposed on natives.
You give Argentina back to the natives and we'll do the same in the Falklands.
@15
Nov 28th, 2015 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“... it's about standing up to a world power who thinks they can get away with anything”
It's about the UK preventing a country of 40 00 000 wannabe imperialists who want to copy all the bad things that the UK used to do in the world, by bullying 3000 people, who without the UK's protection would be defenceless to prevent your country ruining their home and turning it into a neglected colonial outpost, no doubt with an Argentine penal colony on it.
”get our dignity back
I believe this possibly offends me more than it does the Islanders who to be honest just laugh at your country.
This is your idea of dignity.
Your country offers an airlink with OUTDATED DELAPIDATED Russian aircraft, operated by an airline run by a fat imbecile that has destroyed it and it's ability to carry out proper maintenance.
The Islanders are already served by the BEST airline in South America (not run by an imbecile)and the RAF(not run by an imbecile) with BRAND NEW aircraft.
What Argentina is saying to the Islanders is “You deserve second best” but what it ACTUALLY says to the Islanders is that Argentina is second best, because it cannot even offer the same standard of airline that the Islanders get now.
And you wonder why Argentina's dignity is offended?
It's self inflicted-WHOLLY Argentina's fault. No one else's.
Now Macri will no doubt attempt to get some of Argentina's dignity back by rescuing it from the Peronist sockpit, which has not been caused by the UK or the Falkland Islanders.
@ 13, 15, etc.,
Nov 28th, 2015 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, so Arg thinks they have a historical claim (however weak and spurious) to the “Malvinas”, entirely on the basis that the Spanish once claimed it.
On what historical basis does Arg claim S.Georgia & S.Shetlands since they were never claimed (or even discovered) by the Spanish..? And both are on the west (Portuguese) side of the Tordessillas treaty line.
do I hear crickets chirping.....
13 Voice, Vestige,Think et al
Nov 28th, 2015 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Brits establishing a base for a short time...on a a very small island out-with the main islands, knowing they were already occupied by the Spanish”
Your usual pretensions as the UK was already established on the Islands prior to Spain disenfranchising the French. Regardless, the Anglo-Spanish treaties of the Nootka Convention and
Peace of Utrecht put the kibosh to any and all Argentine claims, while explicitly endorsing the UK's claim.
@17 “Get your dignity back – by usurping the Falkland Islands against the will of the inhabitants? That act is going to dignify Argentina? That is strange thinking indeed, what sort of a sorry assed people are you?”
Nov 28th, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, conquering land from people who think they are holier than thou and superior will dignify us, bending over and getting raped by the British, which is what you call being a “good neighbor”, will not. In fact, the British are a special case in which being a good neighbor is a bad idea, because they conquer precisely by being a good neighbor.
@18 You impose English on the whole world right now.
@19 “It's about the UK preventing a country of 40 00 000 wannabe imperialists who want to copy all the bad things that the UK used to do in the world, by bullying 3000 people, who without the UK's protection would be defenceless to prevent your country ruining their home and turning it into a neglected colonial outpost, no doubt with an Argentine penal colony on it.”
You always try to paint yourself as the good guys. Being an empire gives us way more dignity and respect from other human beings than bending over to you and being another of your slaves can ever give us.
Of course, I agree that our nation is not in a good state, but improving the state of our nation alone does not gives us more dignity if we bend over to you. Humilliating your race and your nation, that is what will give us dignity.
22 Magnus
Nov 28th, 2015 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You sound like the Japanese leaders of WWII
that committed cruel atrocities and war crimes on a huge scale, against civilian populations, all in the name of “reclaiming dignity”.
If that is your idea of dignity, it says a lot about you as a person.
@22
Nov 28th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did I argue we didn't? What I was pointing out is that those of Spanish descent aren't exactly blameless on the Empire front and in the case of the Falklands was purely between colonial nations as there were no natives.
When you think about it it's not really that surprising that English would be widely as our language is derided from being invaded so much in the early AD's, it has roots in Latin/Germanic/Nordic making it the easiest language to learn for a lot of European countries.
YES,
Nov 28th, 2015 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain holds all the cards,
so we should make sure Argentina acts before we give any help .
seems fair to me, or its just not cricket..
@23 Unfortunately, sometimes nations have to be mean in order to deserve respect. That is just how human nature works. Though IMO, the Japanese went way too far. I don't want to be mean, but if my race and my nation are constantly insulted by other more successful races/nations, I have no choice.
Nov 28th, 2015 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 022# “Yes, conquering land from people who think they are holier than thou and superior will dignify us, bending over and getting raped by the British, which is what you call being a “good neighbor”, will not. In fact, the British are a special case in which being a good neighbor is a bad idea, because they conquer precisely by being a good neighbor.”
Nov 29th, 2015 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your thinking stinks!
That is the talk of a loser and it is precisely thats sort of rhetoric that creates the perceived lack of respect problem that you complain about.
Unfortunately for Argenrtina you are not alone when it comes to stinking thinking. Posters like you are the problem not the solution.
If you talk like losers and act like losers - you are losers! Grow up and get over it.
26 Magnus
Nov 29th, 2015 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geez, talk about victimhood, I haven't heard anything so childish since NOSTRILS pathetic mewling.
I don't know the point of your posts - do you somehow think we'll beg forgiveness from Spanish-speaking South America and the cruelly oppressed Argentines?
Grow up.
Why Can't we all just get along?
Nov 29th, 2015 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAomAwIwxm8
It's wishful thinking to expect Argentina to publicly renounce its claim however fictitious. The best that can be hoped for is a lessening of tension.
Nov 29th, 2015 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The mantra we hear ad nausea “It's in the Constitution”
Constitutions can be changed - how many has Argentina had in its history?
Two examples of constitutional changes on territorial claims are the Irish one over Ulster and the Guatemalan one claiming all Belize. But how long did that take? Over 50 years I think.
Argentina bases all its claims on history so here's a British example.
England lost its last foothold in France in 1588 with the fall of Calais but the kings of GB were still claiming the throne of France until 1801 and had the fleur de lis on the royal coat of arms as well as the claim engraved on the coinage.
The claim was never formally renounced, it just withered away and died.
To quote Queen Bloody Mary, “ When I die and they open me they will find Calais engraved on my heart”
Sounds familiar no? Though probably Cristina has that organ missing already
Why Can't we all just get along?
Nov 29th, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we do all get along ,
we just don't get on.
@22 MagnusMaster
Nov 29th, 2015 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Humilliating your race and your nation, that is what will give us dignity.”
Again you misunderstand the British psyche. So for your benefit the following phrase:
“If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined.”
You humiliated the Royal Marines in 1982 after your invasion by making them lie down. But that did not help, as when the pictures were beamed around the world it was a major factor in Britain fighting back.
You succeeded in humiliating the UK in April 1982.
Congratulations.
Just over two months later your country suffered a humiliation it has not recovered from.
The responsibility for your current humiliations are CFK and her crooks.
Breaking news is that 'an accidental fire' has destroyed all of Argentina's financial records for the past few years.
This will give your country more humiliation because it cannot be more obvious that the peronists are covering up major fraud before they leave office.
Macri has the potential to make Argentina respected again, without the Malvinas Myth, so that your indignities can disappear.
If Argentina changes from making politically laughable comments, for example 'that a British Prince flying an unarmed yellow helicopter is a military threat to Argentina' and sticks to getting Argentina improved, it will recover much respect, lost through the Peronists.
However if you decide to pursue the Malvinas Myth by force you might consider the indignity of the Argentine personnel manning the nearest airbases to the Falklands, as unlike 1982, when the UK kept away from your mainland ,the British military have several options to eliminate those bases from operational effectiveness if a pre emptive attack is made by Argentine aircraft.
Perhaps according to Argentine logic you would feel your dignity was restored if your airbases got flattened, because you launched a failed air attack?
I get the impression that Argentina would rather lose a war with the UK rather than 'USE' UK to be successful.
@32 “If Argentina changes from making politically laughable comments, for example 'that a British Prince flying an unarmed yellow helicopter is a military threat to Argentina' and sticks to getting Argentina improved, it will recover much respect, lost through the Peronists.”
Nov 29th, 2015 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We cannot recover respect simply by improving our country. That is necessary, but not sufficient. That is something you British can and will never understand.
We cannot use the UK to be successful either. You are too clever to be used.
We cannot use the UK to be successful either.
Nov 30th, 2015 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0[[ You are too clever to be used ]]
we are, and always will be.cough.
33 Magnus
Nov 30th, 2015 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is your point in posting to us your 'resolution' to your ongoing humiliation, at the hands of the British?
You sound like NOSTRILS childishly saying , “We want nothing to do with you, we prefer to crash and burn first”.
He was just reveling in all the attention he got with people saying “ oh no, dont be silly, its not that bad”.
I think you are an insecure, needy attention seeker - nothing more.
Grow up.
@33 Magnus
Nov 30th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We cannot recover respect simply by improving our country. That is necessary, but not sufficient. That is something you British can and will never understand.”
I have to agree with you, the Latin mindset is too far removed from the British mindset for me to possibly understand it.
The British turned a retreat at Dunkirk into a victory, then used the Dunkirk spirit to progress to victory in WW2.
I am guessing from what you say is that if Argentina was in the same situation, they would have seen Dunkirk as an eternal humiliation and then surrendered to Hitler rather than fighting back?
Do I understand your mindset yet?
@36 No, what I say is that we should fight back. Unfortunately most people in Argentina have no love or pride for their nation, and would never fight for it.
Dec 01st, 2015 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 037
Dec 01st, 2015 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fight back ? Fight who, for what?
Fight the British?
WHICH British, specifically?
No British are fighting you.
Do you actually mean you should ATTACK the British??
Again, WHICH British in particular?
What would you get out of it except some short-lived selfish satisfaction- you would be the obvious aggressor, and very quickly humiliated once again.
You're a sore loser, nothing more.
Fight back? Your aggresion on the diplomatic front has never stopped and has been a total failure. It has made Argentina a laughing stock and thoroughly politicised the Islanders and other countries against you.
Dec 01st, 2015 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38 I answering Pete Bog's question, about what should be done after losing at Dunkirk. We cannot attack the British when we don't have an army.
Dec 01st, 2015 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 040
Dec 01st, 2015 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is, why would you want to?
What would it gain you, but another humiliation?
WHICH British?
Unarmed civilians again???!
@13 Voice
Dec 01st, 2015 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly, if you believe your version of history, given that the real version has been spelt out to you on many occasions, then it is clear you are insane.
There are many ways you can establish sovereignty. Argentina has never really met any of them. Britain since 1690 has met many and since 1833 met all.
Spain indeed met some between 1767 and 1811, but Spain doesn't currently claim sovereignty of the stands.
Even France met some between 1765-1767, they too don't currently claim sovereignty.
Argentina has had authority over the islands only twice Nov 1832-jan 1833, and April 1982. Both times they were in full knowledge of the British claim and both times removed within 6 weeks.
@37MagnusMaster
Dec 02nd, 2015 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“36 No, what I say is that we should fight back.”
But Britain has not attacked you????
In 1806 Britain attacked B.A when it was under Spanish rule and Brits were repelled. Even though it was not Argentina but Spain that Britain was attacking, surely the pride at repelling Britain is everlasting and should over ride the defeat in 1982?
We in Britain are not humiliated by that defeat as we have had many, but also many victories, which understandably we remember more than the defeats.
I couldn't give jack squit that Britain lost to Spain in B.A. in 1806, but I am proud that the UK in 1982 kicked off a load of bullies, whose Machismo was highest when they pitted 1000s against 80 Royal Marines, but noticeably absent in South Georgia and on Pebble Island when the SAS raided.
If Argentina's army was strong as in 1982, what benefit would it be to the Argentine people if you did attack Britain?
Argentina has still not recovered from 1982, but one way to avoid a humiliation would have been for Dumbass Galteiri (the General who was so brave he stayed 1000 miles away from the fighting), to have obeyed resolution 502, got his men out before they suffered the humiliation they still feel, and took up the British compromise (stupid though that was) to have a UN flag on the Falklands.
Do you think the UK would refrain (this time round)from walloping the nearest Argentine airfields to the Falklands, from which any aircraft were based that attacked the Falklands (or the UK)?
How would that give you pride? Do you have as a mantra the theme tune to 'The Flashing Blade' “It's better to have fought and lost, than not to have fought at all???”
And to justify your army getting walloped again you have this mandate:
@42 Monkeymagic
“Argentina has had authority over the islands only twice Nov 1832-jan 1833, and April 1982. Both times they were in full knowledge of the British claim and both times removed within 6 weeks.”
The UK will return the Malvinas within the next 25 years.
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes but 25 years in the future never arrives.
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0So in other words it will never happen.
Bless! @44 Hepatia is always around to give us all a good laugh when we need it. Twenty five years... Dream on, Hepatia.
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pet bog, it would be very succefull if you expend more time searching who is macri: acused of aithirity buse, illegal use of public fund, among many other, he is procesed and such is still open, instead of talking shit,,MACRI IS LIBERAL RIGHT CENTER AND DONT CARE BOUT THE NATION, HE IS PRO ANGLO, AND HIS POLITICS IS BOUT MAKING OR STEALING KONEY, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME ARGENTINA EXPERIENCE THT LIBERAL POLITICS , IN MIDERN TIME, FIRST WAS MENEM, REMEMBER????
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come in number 47, your time is up! Please be a little more “subtle and correct” with your use of English and CAPS LOCK. Please remember that for the last twelve plus years Argentina, Great Britain and the Falkland Islands have only been used to the heavy handed, criminal and clumsy tactics of the Kirchener / Peronist government (misgovernment?). Someone has to pay the bills that TMBOA has been running up.
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0jorgeneura @ 47
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I understood of your post is that Macri is “Pro-Anglo”. Surely that's better than pro-Venezuela, Cuba and Iran?
@49 ynsere
Dec 03rd, 2015 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only thing keeping Venzla afloat is state-sponsored narco-dealing to criminals in the USA, backed by Cuban “Security” experts.
In turn, the only things keeping Cuba going are cheap Venzla oil, and 1st World tourism, with a bit of investment from China.
Bolivarian socialist ideology is doing nothing for the PEOPLE.
All the wealth seems to stem from NA and Europe.
Macri is going to set up a legit economy based on legal trade and responsible economic governance. Unless of course, other Argentines try to sabotage the recovery.
@47n GEORGE
Dec 04th, 2015 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“HE IS PRO ANGLO,”
How is that going to hurt Argentina's recovery from the shambles that Peronism has caused?
We are giving you aid, the help could be much more-REMEMBER it is your economy in the shit, not ours.
It is you that need our help, not the other way around.
I take it you are for attacking the Falkland Islands and getting your aircraft shot to shit and your nearest airfields destroyed?
Ever worked out that if Macri is pro Anglo, he might actually get more out of the Falklands for Argentina ( money for services goods and labour) than now which is actually jack squit (i.e. ZERO)?
You are never going to get your colonialist dream come true over the Falklands so why not settle for making money out of the Islanders, instead of getting EXACTLY NOTHING?
“BOUT MAKING OR STEALING KONEY, THIS ”
So he's going to copy CFK and her Elephant Seal impersonator son Maximo?
You obviously haven't worked out how much money CFK and Maximo have stolen off the government.
Your ex vice president, Harley Davidson Boudo has stolen as well-hence he's been in court.
You amigo Timmerman has gone quiet recently, has he moved to Iran with money he's taken off the Argentine people?
Your mate Bogbrush (Annibal) is doing great as I've seen the moustaches he exports for roadsweeper brushes in action, in Birmingham.
“ IN MIDERN TIME, FIRST WAS MENEM, REMEMBER????”
What I remember about Carlos was that he promised the Falkland islands would be Argentine by the year 2000 (it is now 2015) and he sent the Islanders Pingu videos.
I thought it was a bit daft sending cartoon videos of penguins when most Islanders can see the real thing.
Luckily the UK government send Tornados to replace Phantoms (a little more useful to them don't you agree?).
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