Argentina's foreign minister-designate Susana Malcorra said the FTAA (Free Trade Area Of the Americas) is not a bad word suggesting the country could eventually sign a free trade deal with the United States in the future. She also referred to the Falklands/Malvinas dispute, an urgent claim but focusing on things in common and not differences. Read full article
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Dec 09th, 2015 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Dec 09th, 2015 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0What form this face?
http://en.mercopress.com/2015/09/09/don-t-be-fooled-by-dialogue-argentina-only-wants-one-answer-to-the-falklands-question
@2. Morbid obesity? Bad genetics? How could one reasonably postulate?
Dec 09th, 2015 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0We won’t discard any nation of the world we can relate to.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, you heard it here...Venezuela
She also referred to the Falklands/Malvinas dispute, “an urgent claim” but focusing on things in common and “not differences” ????
Dec 09th, 2015 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.academia.edu/17799157/Falklands_-_Some_Relevant_International_Law
“It is an urgent claim” because the archipelago is part of the “territorial integrity” of Argentina.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0That all you people need to hear, no talks until they either take it to the ICJ or withdraw their claim,
they will now try to conn you all, and intimidate you,
apparently the worlds leaders will pay homage to the great Argentine , the usa president may visit, the German and French leaders, the Spanish and the European leaders, African leaders will also pay homage and visit, china and Russia perhaps,
then humiliate Britain into paying homage,
A dream maybe , seems these argies have not changed one little tiny bit.
just my humble opinion.
Perhaps Macri could take an hour or so out of his busy schedule to read up on the history of the Falkland Islands. Then he could take another hour to read up on relevant international law. Finally, he could take some time to consider the balance of forces and think that Galtiera thought that the UK would just give in. Perhaps, if he reads the right stuff, he'll realise that argieland's urgent claim has been over since 14 June 1982. It is now neither urgent nor a claim. It is, at best, a whinge. Will he be amongst the first of modern argies to grow up? Then he could require Malcorra to read all the same stuff. As a thought, he should sack Castro for suggesting that Corbyn is one of us. Corbyn is, of course, a traitor to Britain. He wouldn't defend our country. He wouldn't allow British forces to operate abroad. He believes in handing the Falklands over to argieland despite the wishes of the Islanders. Isn't he a true colonialist, imperialist? How else would he think he has the right to hand over an allied country to another state?
Dec 09th, 2015 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could we even begin to hope that Macri has enough intelligence to recognise reality and demand that his government does the same? One day, the UK will hand the Falkland Islands over to someone else. To the Falkland Islanders. Never to argieland.
,,Position/Office Proposed holder
Dec 09th, 2015 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chief of Cabinet - Marcos Peña
Ministry of Treasury and Finance - Alfonso Prat Gay
Ministry of Production - Francisco Cabrera
Ministry of Energy and Mining- Juan José Aranguren
Ministry of Agriculture Ricardo Buryaile
Ministry of Tourism - Gustavo Santos
Ministry of Social Development Carolina Stanley
Ministry of Health Jorge Lemus
Ministry of Education Esteban Bullrich
Ministry of Labour Jorge Triaca
Ministry of Culture Pablo Avelluto
Ministry of Justice German Garavano
Ministry of Security Patricia Bullrich
Ministry of Defence Julio Martínez
Ministry of Transportation Guillermo Dietrich
Ministry of the Interior Rogelio Frigerio
Ministry of Foreign Relations and Worship - Susana Malcorra
Ministry of Telecommunications Oscar Aguad
Ministry of the Environment Sergio Bergman
Ministry of Public Media Hernán Lombardi
Ministry of Science and Technology Lino Barañao
Ministry of Modernization Andrés Ibarra
General Secretary of the Presidency Fernando de Andreis
Belgrano Plan Responsible José Cano
Director of the Federal Administration of Public Revenue Alberto Abad
Future Mauricio Macri cabinet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Mauricio_Macri_cabinet
With regard to rottingroadkill's claim on the Falklands:
Dec 09th, 2015 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The whole narrative reminds me of a child who stole a very small but treasured item and held it for only a very brief time before it was wrested away from him by the rightful owner and then the child thief spends the entire rest of his life trying to justify his original act of thievery and in lament of his loss of something that was never rightfully his in the first place.
And in just one sentence.
It's been over 180 years. They lost a war they started. It isn't an urgent matter at all, it's a dead in the water matter.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But if they want to spend what little money they have flogging this dead horse instead of sorting out their own country, then so be it.
”She (Malcorra) also referred to the Falklands/Malvinas dispute, “an urgent claim” but focusing on things in common and “not differences”.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off to a bad start. If she keeps plugging away at this insane claim, Argentina will carry on being regarded as a nut case by the 1st world.
As Conqueror says @7, it would be a bloody good idea if both she and Macri, took some time off to become familiar with real facts about the Falklands - instead of taking her cue from idiots like A.Castro and CFK .
Jack, as an Argie politician, she has to say that about the Falklands. She must have been talented diplomatically to hold the UN position she had. My guess is that its just essential posturing. If she is any sort of sensible person she will understand that threats and intimidation must be deplored and cease. Argentina hasnt tried being nice generous and reasonable for many years. Lets hope she recognises that cooperation and genuine friendship is the best method of fulfilling Argentinas desires although it may take many years and possibly never succeed. Latinos are very concerned with 'face', and she will pursue a line that keeps that intact.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So let's look at the list:
Dec 09th, 2015 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ministry of Education Esteban Bullrich / Ministry of Education Esteban Bullrich: are these related?
Ministry of Transportation Guillermo Dietrich: is he part of the car sales outfit in BsAs? At least he would know about cars!
Ministry of Science and Technology Lino Barañao: Macri will be able to wipe the floor with him!
Belgrano Plan Responsible José Cano: bit of a waste of money and similar to the film Raising the Titanic to which the producer, Sir Lew Grade, claimed 'it would have been cheaper to have sunk the original'.
Poor start from the apparently malcontent Malcorra but she may have been lying to keep the morons on the streets sucking their dummies.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekie.
Dec 09th, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?
They have tripped at the first hurdle,
Dec 09th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0only another 4,999 to go...
@12 The Voice
Dec 09th, 2015 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, Malcorra is a politician and a career diplomat, and has to throw some bs around every now and again, to justify her existence...however, Macri has not even been sworn in and she is already blowing her stupid mouth off ....given the bad results of this policy over the last 8 years, one would think she'd give it a rest and then - if she is still stupid enough to believe what she's saying - go about it more 'diplomatically'...
@17 Expect better diplomacy and nothing more than that. Even if Macri wanted to he cannot drop our claim. He would have to change the constitution, and he has no hope of doing that. And even if he could, the people would burn him at the stake if he wanted to drop our claim.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think she is playing to the home crowd, (urgent claim...), whilst internationally-speaking, she is quietly putting it on the 'back-burner', (... things in common and “not differences”.).
Dec 10th, 2015 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0An experienced diplomat after all, something for everyone to take home, perhaps?
Who knows what she really thinks?
I think that, irrespective of who is president in Argentina or the other American countries, the FTAA is not going to happen any time soon.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, but with the amount of FTAs being signed by the Pacific Alliance countries it probably isn't important.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Add the TPP which includes 5 countries in the Americas (including the 1st, 3rd, 4th and potentially if Colombia signs 5th largest economies) and the FTAA is quickly being overtaken by others.
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Dec 10th, 2015 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina hasn't been important for a century now. Which is why the population voted for Macri.
Some-one has to halt the decline.
Which of the following nations are important then?
Dec 10th, 2015 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chinasia
Ozzer
Japper
Kannarians
NorthAmoland
EUialand
Chilis
Brazzoland
Rush-Ass
Hindistan
?
No such nations.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps your Argentinean eduction is confused.
What Argentinian education ?
Dec 10th, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can point them in a map if you wish.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Must be the same map that shows the Falklands as Malvinas.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well Macri is riding the streets and will finish his term on December 10th 2019, just as said in 2012 that EX-PRESIDENT Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner would finish her term today.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is the way of things. I don't particularly like democracy, but the term must be respected, just as I said CFK term must be respected even though everyone here was calling for a COUP.
I bet no one here now is calling for a COUP.
I am the only democrat here, even though I don't believe in democracy.
@27 through the pooping glass
Dec 10th, 2015 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 I don't particularly like democracy,.........then what do you like ? Socialism ? condemned to failure, unless, repeat unless, those productive far outnumber the lazy spongers ....Communism ? capital owned by the State, how does that benefit the people ? not to mention it being a police state with the total loss of personal freedom .....
Why don't you think of the implications of your childish observations, before making them ?
You are a fake, 'sasquatch'.....
You are confusing forms of governance with economic systems.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China is not a democracy and capitalistic. Sweden is democratic but not capitalistic.
I think democracy is a scam, a better system is direct virtual vote, where there is direct democracy at the level of small towns up to 2,000 people, and those elect a representative that casts votes on legislation posted online.
...everyone here was calling for a COUP.
Dec 10th, 2015 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never called for a coup!
I guess making stuff up is easier than actually arguing a valid point. Not that I expected much more from an Argentinean education.
@29 Pooping glass
Dec 10th, 2015 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see 'democracy ' as more than just a form of government...how can you separate them ? in a true democracy, anyone who choses to can be an enterpreneur, which is the basis of capitalism....which in turn is an economic system.
As to Sweden and the other Scandinavian countries, they are socialist democracies that entertain capitalism.....the State does not get involved in production or other economic activities....it simply collects taxes for redistribution where needed, and monitors the free enterpreneurship to ensure nothing gets out of hand......and ONLY countries like those in Scandinavia, that are not governed by imbeciles from the radical left, can afford to keep such a system going.....but the day that the spongers outnumber the contributors, the system starts to fail.
As to the voting system adopted, direct or indirect, in large cities and small towns, this is a political option which 'can' be changed, but is not necessarily a result of capitalism. What other system of government, or what other economic system allows personal freedom to make your own choices, and rewards hard work appropriately, obviously respecting certain reasonable limits ???
No talks,
Dec 10th, 2015 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0until their constitution walks...
THE VOICE, BEEN SENSITIVE FOR YOU IS GIVE UP THE CLAIMING AND SAY YOU ARE RIGHT SQUATTERS, THE ISLYOURS, WELL I GUESS YOU ARE SO CONFUSE DUDE!! IT WONT HAPPEN CAUSE THE CONGRESSILL GOT Ks, AAND OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS IT IS OUR, SIMPLE, WE DONT WANT TO COOPERATE WITH THE SQUATTERS, WE NEED TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE, DONT DRAM TOO MUCH. AS FOR YOU COMNQUEROR WHO TNHE HELL TLD YOU THE CLAIMING IS OVER SINCE 1982?? OHH WAIT.. YOU?? JAAAA DONT BE CLOWN MR IGNORANT THAT NONDECLARE WAR NEVER INFLUENCED THE CALIMING AS A MATTE OF FACT NOTHING INFLUENCE OUR CLAIMING SINCE 1833.UN SAID NOTHING,USA YOUR FIRND NEITHER LAST YEAR INTHE OEA.NOONE SAID ANITHING BOUT OUR CLAIMING .AND WHATS THE RELEVANCE ON INTERNATIONAL LAW?? NOTHONG TO READ IS YOU PIRATES WHO NEDDS TO READ HISTORY AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO OUR ARCHIVES IN BIUENOS AIRES DUMMY.IN THINK YOU ARE ALL TRAITORS TO BRITAIN , CHECK YOUR CUTS FROM THE LAST YEAR ON EDUCATION POLICE, ELDERS BENEFITS, FIRE DEPT. RENT GENERATION OUT OF THE MARKET, WORRY BOUT THAT INSTEAD OF US AND THE ISLAND, DUDE.YOUR HUMBLE OPINION SUCKS BRITON WE SENT YOU FOR A ICJ IN 1884/5/6/7, 1936 AND 1992, ALL rejected.
Dec 11th, 2015 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0#33
Dec 11th, 2015 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Markings for the above post.
CONTENT. Extremely poorly thought out and basically unintelligible. Thought processes not evident.
PRESENTATION. Appalling. Use of capital letters indicates extreme frustration and anger. Trotting out a hackneyed party line . Layout poor with no breaks between sentences...if there are actually any.
Marks awarded 7%....mainly for managing to post this diatribe.
@33 Gorgeous Anus
Dec 11th, 2015 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which of the traditionally idiotic trolls is it this time ? All of them are so mentally unstable that they need to create new identities all the time in order to fit in with the crazy personalities that take over their deluded brains...
It must be Susie.
Dec 11th, 2015 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, it's just some random Argentinean that is trying to make sense of his current dislocation.
Dec 11th, 2015 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He needs to lash out and has just found this site on some link or news feed.
Like a 16 year old, he won't last long and will leave us all feeling slightly dirty and very unfulfilled before disappearing.
@33 George
Dec 11th, 2015 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS IT IS OUR, SIMPLE
And the Falkland Islands constitution says it is theirs.
And the current inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are?
WE DONT WANT TO COOPERATE WITH THE SQUATTERS
OK, expel your European squatters from Argentina and return the country to the indigenous population who were evicted by the Spanish.
WE NEED TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE
Yes, you're broke and hopefully Macri will repair your economy which is in shit street.
WHO TNHE HELL TLD YOU THE CLAIMING IS OVER SINCE 1982
You can claim as much as you like , your sovereignty claim is invalid.
AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO OUR ARCHIVES IN BIUENOS AIRES
Yes, we've read them, and they prove what you say is inaccurate, but it's clear that Argentina never reads it's own archives. Try reading what Pinedo wrote, it does not back your claim.
Try finding out about Mestivier's mutineers who were sentenced to death by firing squad, in Buenos Aires, by the Buenos Aires Government, (Captain Onslow did not order their deaths).
Try finding out about the South American settlers who were allowed to stay on the islands by the British and at the time of 1833, perhaps only one of the settlers was English out of 22.
Try explaining why most of Pinedo's sailors were British (NOT South American), so most of the Buenos Aries Government forces sent away in 1833 WERE BRITISH, many in fact were E.N.G.L.I.S.H,.DUMBASS.
CHECK YOUR CUTS FROM THE LAST YEAR ON EDUCATION POLICE, ELDERS BENEFITS, FIRE DEPT. RENT GENERATION OUT OF THE MARKET, WORRY BOUT THAT INSTEAD OF US AND THE ISLAND, DUDE
Hello, are you out there?
Education in the Falkland Islands, paid for by the FALKLAND ISLANDS GOVERNMENT, NOT the British taxpayer.
Old age accommodation at the KEHM, is paid for by the FALKLAND ISLANDS GOVERNMENT, NOT the British Taxpayer.
The Falkland Islands Fire department-funded by the FALKLAND ISLANDS GOVERNMENT, NOT the British Taxpayer.
The problem of No-Am is their currency. Who the hell will want to trade in dollars. If the No-Am accept that trade were made in Yuan negotiations could move forward.
Dec 12th, 2015 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bit of help here people,
Dec 12th, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Constitution
I have been told that Argentina has more than one constitution ,
is this true,
if so which one was used for the Falkland's , and do the others count.
just wondering. ...
@39 BRasshole
Dec 12th, 2015 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your problem is that you understand f*ck-all about what's going on......But if you would rather get paid in Yuan for getting your ass creamed, go ahead, who the hell is stopping you ?
No modern country should have any kind of claim after 200 years its pathetic,
Dec 13th, 2015 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should bloody well grow up and stop acting like a spoilt child.
39. Yuan was just depreciated again today.
Dec 14th, 2015 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and its going to we worth much less in the next 3 years...
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