MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Rousseff picks Barbosa as finance minister, a strong critic of Levy and austerity
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff on Friday picked her close aide Nelson Barbosa, a left-leaning economist, to take over the finance ministry from Joaquim Levy who is leaving after a series of disagreements over economic policy. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAt least he is educated. However there's little money to spend his way out of this deep recession.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another nail in Dilma's coffin.
It seems that FatAss Dilma doesn't know what to do about the finance post.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0First we had The Liar Mantega who single-handedly drove the international investors away when he lied about the returns rate on the investments they has stumped up and it all went downhill after that.
Then she ignored appointing his assistant who did know what he was doing but left TLM because he couldn't work for a liar: another wrong move.
Then Levy tried his best to rein in the profligate spending (outside of agreed limits spending) and he fell foul of the crooks who are bleeding the country dry.
NOW she has appointed a “spend it while we have it” guy.
Deckchairs on the Titanic, rearranging of, moment?
Why all of you forget that Brazil has an incalculable fortune in foreign?
Dec 19th, 2015 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil lost the investment grade. So why keep 370 billion dollars in the United States?
The Brazilian government is very rich only Levy and Tombini not know it.
The Brazilian government has to bring back the 2 trillion reais it has abroad, pay most of the domestic debt, reduce interest rates to 4% and promote the development of our country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7Rph5c10o&list=LLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=61
Well Brasso, why do you not think that if it was that easy you would think that your so called finance minister would know that. I would suggest you go back to Brazil and take over as finance minister and stop posting nonsense on here. Laughed my bollocks off you are a card Brasso but good for a laugh.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So we forced the change of minister. Dilma is stubborn too. This government has to end soon (by democratic means, elections).
Dec 19th, 2015 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will say for Skip and Elaine
Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you this would happen
Marxists only know how to spend
Next they'll depreciate their way to prosperity.
Marxist Monkeys.
I am so happy Brazilians can't afford to travel to the USA any longer.
They do not know how to behave in polite company.
@3, 5. Terrorists are all much the same. Having picked out a scenario that suits their lack of education and/or intelligence, they can't get away from it. Rousseff looks to using the bank raid/kidnap and ransom scenario. Why would she care about “the people”? Just “drones” that need to make their own way in a lawless environment. Wouldn't you think a primary aim would be to impose law and order? Yet the number of murders increases every year. That suits crims like da Silva and Rousseff receiving megabucks through corruption.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 trillion reais abroad, eh? Sure about that? Never mind what's on the balance sheet. Get the real money and count it. Find out how much da Silva, Rousseff and cronies have abstracted. If you really had 2 trillion, would your economy be going down the tubes? A Brazilian Real is worth an American quarter. Just 17 British pence. So you don't really have that much. Such a tiny part of the UK's wealth. Last seen as US$2.660 trillion. Learn your place.
@6 According to your prevision I would be dead of thirst few months ago. What happened? I kept a freshwater ocean in my house here waiting drought and lack of water that you predicted.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And now what do you advise me to do, honorable guru?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtXby3twMmI
:)
@3, 5. Terrorists are all much the same. Having picked out a scenario that suits their lack of education and/or intelligence, they can't get away from it. Rousseff looks to using the bank raid/kidnap and ransom scenario. Why would she care about “the people”? Just “drones” that need to make their own way in a lawless environment. Wouldn't you think a primary aim would be to impose law and order? Yet the number of murders increases every year. That suits crims like da Silva and Rousseff receiving megabucks through corruption.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 trillion reais abroad, eh? Sure about that? Never mind what's on the balance sheet. Get the real money and count it. Find out how much da Silva, Rousseff and cronies have abstracted. If you really had 2 trillion, would your economy be going down the tubes? A Brazilian Real is worth an American quarter. Just 17 British pence. So you don't really have that much. Such a tiny part of the UK's wealth. Last seen as US$2.660 trillion. Learn your place.
@9 My place is on top of yours. Take care!
Dec 19th, 2015 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can not take my weight. Imagine what will be left of you.
8. You must not be in Rio or San Paulo.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In both places they're drinking poisoned water.
And only have running water a few hours a day
Another told you so to another crap general 'prediction' by Yankeeboy.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure if you read the article. Which is about the replacement of the finance minister. The recession has been going on for more than a year and no one has claimed it will end anytime soon.
You're running with the pack and think you're leading it because you shout the loudest.
Booms always end in recessions. Watch this: America's economic recovery will end in a recession.
Funnily enough Australia's boom didn't end in a recession! So much for socialist countries always failing.
But we will have one eventually. Wow this generalised prediction business is farcking easy as.
http://www.carbontracker.org/report/us-shale-oil-and-gas/
Dec 19th, 2015 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hedge contracts which soften the oil price fall for oil shale are now ending in early 2016.
What is your forecast about it, yankeeboy?
Do you think we should continue to invest in the pre-salt, or not?
Skip, What I said was that the marxists would not allow austerity. Nobody else said that or was ever saying it.
Dec 19th, 2015 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Austrailia is able to exist in its present form, like Canada because the USA protects it.
You can thank me anytime.
http://en.trend.az/business/energy/2470637.html
Dec 20th, 2015 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0The US Congress approved the new rules of the IMF giving greater powers to the BRICS.
Do you think it has to do with the deep recession it expects the United States in 2016?
Do you think that the FED will be able to pay 2 trillion dollars that will be cashed out by the BRICS countries in May/2016?
How many jobs will be lost with the shale oil production fall?
Besides the money that the United States will have to shell out to pay the BRICS, do you think there will be enough money to fund an extremely negative trade balance with the return of oil imports on a large scale?
And the huge US budget deficit may also be financed normally?
After seven years of monetary expansion and the banking system of the United States on the verge of bankruptcy due to the monetary policy of zero interest rates, which would be the way to avoid US default and the impending social upheaval?
I got the impression that the situation of the United States is not easy. Especially now that its main allies (5 Eyes and EU) also are in bad sheets.
http://en.trend.az/business/energy/2470637.html
Yankeeboy
Dec 20th, 2015 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“What I said was that the marxists would not allow austerity”. No you didn't, you said “Marxists only know how to spend”
First off, you really need to learn the definition of Marxism. Then learn to differentiate between different parties. I know that you enjoy simplistic explanations and definitions and that to you, anyone to the left of your far-right position is the same, but the world is more nuanced than that.
Brazil is not Marxist and neither is its government. You resort to populism and name calling to try to make a point. The fact that you don't see the similarities to Maduro and CFK and even posters such as Nostrils is quite comical.
Secondly a reply from you wouldn't be complete without an attempt at a personal insult to myself or my country (see the point above).
“Austrailia [sic] is able to exist in its present form, like Canada because the USA protects it. You can thank me anytime.”
THANK
YOU!
Is your ego happy now?
Because mine wasn't affected.
If you want your country to be a superpower, then you must pay the price. The price is your tax dollars helping to protect my country.
For our loyalty we demand certain things which you are therefore obliged to provide. So thank you again. Thank you thank you thank you. Make sure you work hard, pay your taxes and strengthen your country. It is what my country requires of you.
In return, we'll help you out a fair bit when we can or want to.
And while we are secure enough in our own identity to adopt some of your country's ideas and culture, we realised long ago that the vast majority of your political system, economic system, poverty and class division from your social system, violence and especially your obsessions with guns and military adventurism is not a good fit to our country.
So hopefully this post has assuaged your constant need for validation and adulation by a foreigner.
If you need me to thank you again, then all you need do is request it.
16 Skip
Dec 20th, 2015 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very nicely said.
Gosh, the way he carries on, you would think YB is single handedly responsible for saving the Free World.
He might only grudgingly recognize that, with great power comes great responsibility - I mean, if you're going to do it right.
If the US has a problem with Australia, it will tell someone in power. Yankeeboy ranting on an anonymous forum isn't exactly registering as important to anyone but himself.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't need to sit for an IQ test, earn lots of money or be aged within an unspecified but extremely narrow age bracket to know that.
Yankeeboy lives to sow discord and anything other than blind obedience to his repetitive generalisations and predictions makes you a target. If there is one thing the rest of the world has plenty of experience in dealing with..... it's loud mouthed yanks. They're rarely popular even in the United States either.
@6 You have never told me anything worth hearing. You do like to be Captain Obvious with you comments and I am sure you think you are a real smart guy.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy is an example of a person too stupid to know he is an idiot.
The Brazil vs. Russia trade has increased 500% in the last three years. In 2016 will exceed $ 15 billion. The MDIC forecasts indicate that in 2020 bilateral trade will be 30 billion dollars.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the first time in 2015 Russia was the country's biggest selling defense equipment to Brazil. Surpassing the United States has remained at the top in the last 100 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mUIPPH740
19. And what you do you here? You offer nothing but worthless opinions based on your failed life.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're bitter and a dried up old hag.
Go bother someone else.
16. Ahhh again, lots of words to say very little. If you don't think my posts are worthwhile don't read them. You agreed with most of what I said and the rest of the post was just drivel, acting out like a teenager with lots of grand ideas yet little real experience.
Troy, Again butting in again, was anyone talking to you? Nope. Nobody ever does.
@ ElaineB and yankeeboy
Dec 20th, 2015 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should discuss the loving relationship in another article. This article is about Brazil and Brazil is a warrior, no crying here.
Marriage is the most natural thing in the world. Because do you not try?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yWBJSsyuLA&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=21
I send a very cool gift for both of you.
:)
@21 Yes, I post opinion in the comment section of a message board. It is what one is supposed to do; post opinion and discuss. I don't need to use it to bolster an ego in the way you do.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You, Yankeeboy, state the bleeding obvious and then expect a fanfare and adulation. The problem is you alienated people here with your nasty taunts about the poor and disadvantaged. You post spitefully about Argentineans calling them 'filthy animals'. Oh, and 'filthy democrats' and filthy anyone who doesn't agree with your bigoted view of the world. How very desperate you are for validation.
Interesting that you project 'filthy' and 'failed' a lot in your posts. Issues, much.
I am not going anywhere and you can keep digging that hole because each post makes you look more reprehensible.
ElaineB, yankeeboy is a great kid.When you are sleeping not hurt anyone. Or forecasts as well.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forgive him. yankee boy is a good boy, though not seem.
And now to the main! War. TOTAL WAR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y85peXWXxAk&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
@24 As usual, you are not making any sense. Run along and get ready for your 'war'.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When you”....my mistake. The correct would be: WHEN HE
Dec 20th, 2015 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My English is very bad. Excuse me.
I can not understand pronouns in English. Are many! In Portuguese we have few pronouns.
Sorry again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1pEVgsHo2g&feature=iv&src_vid=oR5i_KG3IkQ&annotation_id=annotation_2816260263
Merry Christmas! Feliz Natal! Frohe Weihnachten!
Elaine, you nasty bitter dried up hag, you come here just as much as I do and recently you've turned into nothing but a troll. You offer nothing but screeching bile directed at MEN. It used to be Think but since he's gone its now me and Chris.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're are a nothing more than a nasty piece of dog crap you can't scrape off your shoe.
Ich beginneböse zu werden.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Parem agora com essa frescura. Vão brigar na casa do caralho! Aqui não!
@27 Temper, temper. I come here often because I want to, that is not the point I was making but once again it went right over your head. Whooosh.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not men, yankeeboy, just you. You are a revolting human and deserve to be heckled. You mentioned me in this thread so stop whining like a baby when I respond.
Lonely bitter failed hag, have you ever done anything good that anyone will remember once you're gone?
Dec 20th, 2015 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have.
And will do lots more before I go
Do not answer, ElaineB. Please!
Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 You are a thoroughly unpleasant excuse for a man with an unhealthy attitude to women. You can stop throwing insults like darts because you miss every time.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have no idea about my work or what I have achieved. It is way outside of your limited understanding or work comprehension.
Alas can't name a thing can you
Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dried up hag, thats why you're bitter.
And lonely
And sad
@33 I am not going to reveal to you anything about my work or private life.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can rant all you like because it just makes you look bad, not me.
@31 Don't worry, there is nothing yb can say that can upset me.
Dried up old hag, you are a failure at your life and your job.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't need to know any more than I already do
I've already guessed you're a fat assed BA stewardess.
That must have struck close to home because that's when you started trolling me.
@35 I started challenging you when you wrote “stop the free money to poor people” and I pointed out to you that they would starve. You positively glowed at the possibility.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't know anything about my life so your ridiculous comments can only be drawn from your own miserable life. Your favourite insults include:
Failure = You failed miserably in Argentina and had to go back to the U.S. to work instead of your planned retirement in Argentina.
Fat = Only fat people use this as an insult.
Dried up an old = No doubt you are past it and impotent.
Filthy = I guess you have been called this many times as it has left you scarred so you throw it at anyone and everyone.
You have no concept of the work I do or the life I lead but you have to weave something from your very limited life experience. It reflects your life, not mine.
As I said before your posts indicate you are too stupid to know what an idiot you are.
@35 YB
Dec 20th, 2015 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are indeed looking bad.
Do you behave like this towards others, in your 'professional' capacity?
Is it true what Vestige called you, a failed shoe salesman named Fred, whose Porteno wife cheated on him?
Just asking ??? You never ever replied to that. You seem good at bullying Elaine and others, but you always ran away when your wife was mentioned.
“IQ 170” - it shows.
“-/+300 people under me” check
Do you perhaps drive the backhoe at the cemetery?
Don't get mad - just a little joke. Something for ElaineB to get a chuckle as a return for reading your childish willy-waving.
@37 It did give me a chuckle, thank you.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never really believed all the stuff about 'yankeeboy' being the poster 'fredbdc' but when you look at fredbdc's posts they sure do seem to use the same kind of language. If that is his backstory it explains his anger and bitterness towards women and Argentina. Poor old sod.
BRasshole
Dec 20th, 2015 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take a pill to stop the verbal diarrhea......your attempts to sound smart just reinforce the fact that you are one ignorant nutcase.
Oh I knew Troy would be close behind Skip and The Hag.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always butting in somewhere it doesn't belong
Elaine, bitter old hag, I don't care if 1MM Rgs starve if it would teach them that Socialism/Statism doesn't work so the next generation finally learns.
Lessons are sometimes harsh but always needed.
Hag, your life is failed otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive about it. You see it every time you look in the mirror.
As I said before I never worked in Argentina. I was on a 5 year vacation. Leaving every 3 months to renew my visa usually visiting other SoAm nations. You can try to catch me in a lie but it won't work. I've never lied on here.
I left Argentina when the corruption, filth and violence got too much for me. I was very scared after a few(many) of our neighbor's houses were commando assaulted even though we had armed guards patrolling the area. I've always thought it was the gov't sponsored thugs.
I've been back a couple times to visit friends and its not any better than when I left.
I am proud of my accomplishments. I have done a lot with what God has given me. I am very well known for my good works. They'll be here long after I am dead.
I know none of you can say the same.
@37 Yes, he is definitely fredbdc. Just read his posts, it is all the same old garbage.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He didn't answer your question, did he.
Elaine, You're nothing but a troll.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep trollin Elaine
Keep Trollin
Silly cow.
@42 O.K., Fred.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rage on babe
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rage on
I love that I can get under your skin.
@44 You can't but you seemed rattled now.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rage on babe
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me take up some more room in that tiny mind
@46 You can change your name on here but you cannot change that revolting personality or hide your bigotry and prejudice. Why did you change your name? Was it because you fell out with everyone?
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rage on babe
Dec 20th, 2015 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rage on
Your tiny brain is filled with me
Dream of me babe
dream of me tonight
Thanks for your dismissal Yankeeboy.
Dec 20th, 2015 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guess I didn't take the bait.
Oh and I plan on reading every one of your predictions. Because disagreeing with you upsets you the most. Keep up the good work, you're certainly good value to this Aussie.
@47 ElaineB
Dec 20th, 2015 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and before the YB rage, there was “fredbdc” on MP:
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/22/bolivia-rejects-us-warning-and-will-have-dealings-with-whomever-it-wishes#comment27651
and yes, sounds the same.
TWIMC...
Dec 20th, 2015 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always wondered why, some of the habitué beacons of Engrish, Kanuk & Ozzie Turnipidity in here never suspected that bald & abnoxious fredbdc aka Yankiboy personage to be one of el Think's sockpuppets...
Hume's empiricist approach to logic would strongly suggest so...
Chuckle chuckle....
Having a sockpuppet only reflects poorly on the person who needs such a tool. This sort of tool is only needed if someone doesn't believe that they are capable of creating an impact solely on their own merits using a single login.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you have any sockpuppets Think, then please feel free to use them as frequently as you wish. I once was bothered by this but now have learnt my lesson that it is unimportant. I am happy to admit I was once wrong to concentrate on this.
You have been caught out twice for using sockpuppets. I know you will never say that out loud but you and I both know the truth.
If Yankeeboy is a sockpuppet or if he has sockpuppets..... so what!?!?!
Honestly why is it important. It is much more fun and has greater impact to tear apart the logic and claims of multiple sockpuppets than one single poster.
You use sockpuppets to hide your deficiencies. They're not my deficiencies.
Posters such as Voice and Yankeeboy present small targets, letting as little as possible about themselves through because that could diminish claims they make. If they also use sockpuppets then they are doubly blessed.
So no, I never suspected because I don't fall into the trap that people like you revel in providing. You either post as Think or someone else.
I either reply to Think or someone else.
Well I live and learn...Mr. Think was right all along....
Dec 21st, 2015 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am not sure what would give you the impression I am worried about Latin America. I am not, as I explained before this amuses me. IT IS HOW I WASTE TIME WAITING FOR, CLIENTS, dinner, appointments etc.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/11/22/bolivia-rejects-us-warning-and-will-have-dealings-with-whomever-it-wishes#comment27665
Where have I read that recently...
That's right YB said almost the exact same thing....It is Fred....the salesman....
A small target Skip...?
I have provided loads of info...
I think we dispense with most of what you “provided loads of ” ..at least the bits where you say you go to Trout Run PA on a regular basis,
Dec 21st, 2015 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Chuckle chuckle...”
What you talking aboot....?
Dec 21st, 2015 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0what a _wit you are
Dec 21st, 2015 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Voice
Dec 21st, 2015 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't say that you hadn't “provided loads of info”.
I said you “present a small target”.
Very different thing.
For someone who excels at nuance and fine points of articulation, I know you know the difference. Let's not pretend we underestimate each other's abilities. Yankeeboy can pretend because he is inherently dishonest. You aren't inherently dishonest. You may feign ignorance but you are calculating in what you do say.
57 Skip
Dec 21st, 2015 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You aren't inherently dishonest. You may feign ignorance but you are calculating in what you do say.”
You are quite right - it's his biggest Achilles heel as a Troll. His pride won't let him lie - partly because he possesses some sort of twisted integrity, and partly because if he does lie and we find out about it, he couldn't stand being shown up.
Do you remember when I asked him if he went to Remembrance Day in Dunoon to honour the British War Dead?
“a voice” didn't reply.
I had to ask him repeatedly.
Eventually, he responded by trying to shame me for saying Wed. Remembrance Day, instead of Remembrance Weekend - but he still did not answer my question.
When I kept at it, he finally said he went to Remembrance ceremonies, but did not respond specifically whether he went and honoured his Great Uncle Angus who died on D-day with the Highland Regiment of the British Forces. Nope nothing.
Once more I asked if he bowed his head and honoured the fallen British Forces?
Nope, the only answer was something nebulous, along the lines of “I honoured my fallen family”, and skulked off - didn't hang around to berate me or take me to task - just made a bee-line for the nearest exit!
A man of honour, our voicey, no matter how dubious he is otherwise.
Like wise, do you remember his oft- heard quote, “ I never said I was Scottish”??
Ah, how noble McVoice - hoisted with his own petard!
I can't stop laughing about it !!
If yer gonna dissemble, baby, ya. gotta go all the way!!
Gawd, it's so obvious... !
Smirk smirk smirk, mock mock mock!!
I had to ask a
“I never said I was Scottish”
Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am not the only one to see this glaring obfuscation. There's a connotation that Voice doesn't want.
And that's fine. But he can't pretend it doesn't exist. And I know he won't.
I don't understand the need for several identities by some posters. But considering it, I can understand why fredbdc changed his name to yankeeboy because it could lead to details of his personal life. That is never a good idea. There are some seriously weird people around like Creepy ChrisR who spent a day searching for a photograph of me for the sole purpose and desire to make derogatory remarks about my appearance. What kind of lowlife does that? From the comments he made he clearly found a picture of some random person and proceeded to mock her. Poor woman.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, if fredbdc was too close to home yankeeboy is justified in changing his name here. This is a comments message board and posters are free to divulge personal information or not, as they see fit. They should never do so under pressure because they can guarantee it is not going to end well. But boasting about achievements in an effort to gain respect is meaningless unless you are prepared to prove it.
Words are powerful tools and how people choose to use them, and the tone and content of their comments, reveal far more than any search engine can. I prefer to form an opinion of the person behind the name purely on the basis of their posts, and in relation to the subjects discussed.
People can pretend to be something in the short-term but their true nature always comes through. They may pretend to hide their bigotry and prejudices in their 'real' lives but eventually they leak out through their words on an anonymous message board. It seems to bring out the worst in some people, maybe because they suppress it most of the time.
Some posters are here just to stir and work through their personal demons. Other are just here for shits and giggles. There are some that post thoughtful and informative information, wherever their allegiances lie. Others are witty and entertaining. All have a right to put their opinions out there and we all have the right to comment on them.
/lecture. :)
@ 60 ElaineB also “The Liar”
Dec 21st, 2015 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, you couldn't resist it I see. More abuse and pseudo psychiatry to go with the lies.
Seriously weird? Creepy ChrisR ? “who spent a day searching for a photograph of me”!
Who 'told' you that fairy tale, oh no, it's yet another lie, isn't it?
I made a lot of money in one of my businesses doing technical and architectural photography and I still keep my links with others I knew at the time. And that's where your photo came from and you know why don't you? Don't bull yourself up that I spent any time searching but I have to admit looking at the laughingly called 'photos'.
“unless you are prepared to prove it.” And how would anyone do that with someone who “doesn't read anything anybody puts in a link. I KNOW what I want to read” Well, that hasn't worked out too well so far has it.
BTW, your post isn't a lecture, it sounds more like somebody crying in the dark. Cue (from you) “well you would know rotting in Uruguay”.
You are a pathetic creature in need of a real relationship that lasts as long as mine has. You will never make it though because your irrational mental outpourings will drive any 'partner' away: but you know that as well by now, don't you?
If you don't make the effort to control the lying and made up abuse you are going to end up like Guzz, in a mental institution.
@61 Your original post about the photo you think is me:
Dec 21st, 2015 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“BTW the sixties Quantesque bottle blond hairstyle and brown or black hair-band in your poorly exposed selfie is comical in the extreme AND you claimed on here you are not middle aged: another lie then. You know what I told you about being 50, don’t you and that photo clearly shows you to be 50? Now we KNOW where all the tantrums are coming from.”
NOT me.
“I made a lot of money in one of my businesses doing technical and architectural photography and I still keep my links with others I knew at the time. And that's where your photo came from and you know why don't you?”
You used old business contacts to track down a photo you think is me? Sick, sick, sick. No, I don't know why anyone with integrity and morality would search for my photograph. You actually admit doing it? I think you are straying into the area of stalking online. You are a seriously creepy old man.
Time to take this further.
@ 62 ElaineB also “The Liar”
Dec 21st, 2015 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You used old business contacts to track down a photo you think is me? Sick, sick, sick”
No I didn't, either searching for it myself or admit to doing it, read my post again. One of my friends came across the item and remembered how we had both LOL about you little stunts, the lies and the obfuscation and he passed it to me for me to check it out. Very simple to understand, but being a downright liar you don't believe anything anybody says do you?
YOU or somebody you know and had access to the file posted it on line.
The fact that you lie about everything results in nobody believing you, whatever you 'claim'.
You are a seriously mentally unstable person. You really do need to seek medical advice before you have a total fixation that everybody is 'stalking you online'
Don't you get it yet, I am bored stiff with all the lies and couldn't give a damn about you. YOU stop berating me and I will stop replying to you to correct the lies YOU say about me.
@63 What on earth is a creepy old man like you doing looking at and swapping photos of a woman online. Can you not see how reprehensible your behaviour is? IT IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine if that was your daughter? How would you feel about creepy old men trying to find a photograph of a woman online just because they don't agree with her. It is NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR.
“YOU or somebody you know and had access to the file posted it on line.” There is no such file about me online. Fool.
I don't know whose photo you have but it does not fit my description. If I were you, I would make a hasty apology before this goes any further. You admit obtaining a photo you think is me and using that information online here. Attempting to delve into another poster's private life is online stalking.
You have crossed the line into seriously worrying behaviour. All because I don't agree with you. Can you see how unhinged your behaviour is? No normal person would do what you have done. Which, by the way, was the point of my post @ 60.
Take a deep breath and step away from the computer before you do anything else that will get you into further trouble.
Yeah so what.... that Yankeeboy may or may not be Fred....he can change his name if he wants....and he has never denied being a salesman...
Dec 21st, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's entitled to his opinions good or bad...and most folk project and are not even aware of it...
Conqueror does worse character assassinations....
If he doesn't like certain women or certain men that is his entitlement...
I get worse insults on a daily basis...water off a ducks back....ElaineB is giving as good as she gets and doing her fair share of provoking, as is ChrisR....
Besides, if anyone is going to be doing character assassinations...it's me...
Stay off my turf....Voice doesn't like to share....
I also must admit...I am very curious as to what the person I'm arguing with looks like...call it nosey, but I've done my fair share of snooping....
...and the pics I've found have been assigned to the curiosity satisfied pile....
I guess I'm not normal either....
I'm not seeing the festive spirit either....
Deck the halls with boughs of holly,
Fa la la la la la la la!
'Tis the season to be jolly,
Fa la la la la la la la!
Don we now our gay apparel,
Fa la la la la la la la!
Troll the ancient Yuletide carol,
Fa la la la la la la la....
.........That's what I'm talking aboot.......;-)))))))))
@ 64 ElaineB
Dec 21st, 2015 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think, given the nonsense you have just posted, I should add “and stupid one”
The photos were published by you within a photographic public notice board based on a major photographic manufacturers site for the users of their products to post their work for all the world to see. Nothing private, nothing secret about it, and if you are not the person then the real person will not know anything about my claims. But you are a self-evident liar through and through and I cannot believe anything you say anymore.
I am not the one “in trouble”. To claim I am stalking you is nothing but adding substance to my judgement of your unstable mental condition. NOTE: it is NOT an opinion, it is a valid judgement based on self-evident lying, rearranging my posts to suit your invalid claims and ridiculous claims that have no basis in fact. Just to make it clear to you: OPINIONS of which you are full off are NOT based on judgement and sifting the evidence, they are what YOU think. Only Judges can have valid 'Judgements' of the evidence in the case.
Stop berating me and I will stop replying to you to correct the lies and all the other invalid claims you make about me. It is as simple as that. Just remember that the evidence is in your posts, I did not have to lie about it, unlike you.
@66 I have not placed any photographs on public notice boards. The person you described has no resemblance to me whatsoever and the photographs you are panting for do not exist online.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is weird and creepy is that you not only sought out the photograph - yes, blah, blah, a 'friend' you talk about me with sent it to you (only a complete idiot would believe that crock) - but you then used it to insult the woman in the picture, hoping it was me. Nasty, nasty comments about the poor woman. What kind of a man would do that? A very sick man. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You seem to spend far too much time speculating about me and my work. You fire insults hoping I will reveal more but miss by a mile every time. You seem not to be able to think outside the very narrow perspective of your own life. Besides, what the hell has it to do with you what I do or how I look?
Your insults to that woman in the photograph were pure unadulteratedly spiteful and catty in nature. The fact that you pounced on a photograph of a woman of menopausal age to try to explain my audacity to disagree with you is more of your sexist mindset. My disagreeing with you is nothing to do with hormones but simply that you are often wrong and hold bigoted opinions. I will continue to disagree with you whenever you post something of which I hold a different opinion. That is the nature of open message boards.
Meantime, stop with the creepy speculation about my private life. It makes you look like an old pervert.
Well...if this is going to continue...I'm putting some Orville Redenbacher's Gourmet Popping corn in the microwave...
Dec 21st, 2015 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..and I 'm going to sit on the sidelines...and heckle....
..and highlight flaws....
What did I say about folk projecting and not being aware of it....
Projection:....“Repeatedly attacking someone with the ideas that they are: Cold, Arrogant, Selfish, Anti-social and Negative as a way of not admitting to yourself that these appear to be some of your most dominant traits.”
What picture...I see no picture that a friend found...
How did the correlation take place between the users name and the photo...?
and speaking of a sexist mindset....
Would Elaine accuse Chris of .....creepy speculation about private life and accuse him of looking like an old pervert.”...if the picture being sourced was of...Me.....?
I think not....
Heckle...heckle...
Golly this popcorn is tasty...from Omaha Nebraska...
Gads the hipsters have gotten to the popcorn now?
Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why pay less than a $1 for a massive bag of kernels you scoop out of a barrel at the local market and season yourself when you can fall for marketing hype, all that packaging and the cost of shipping around the world and pay $5.
There's one born every minute.
68
Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0another one just fell off the turnip truck, so to speak ....
....on to a pile of hipsters fighting over who was first to fall!
Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well with Think and Yankeeboy MIA, I guess Voice had to try to stand out somehow.
Costco Skip...the American membership-only warehouse club.......in Glasgow
Dec 21st, 2015 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0£15 quid thereabouts for box of 32 bags....about 47p a bag
So they are peanuts really.....or rather... popcorn....;-)
VoiceofThink attempts to stir, but fails. Just like a bluebottle, repeatedly needs to be swatted.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...applause... not a sausage... ”:-(
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always wondered why, some of the habitué paranoid beacons of Engrish, Kanuk & Ozzie Turnipidity in here never suspected that insidious spinster “ElaineB” to be one of el Think's sockpuppets...
Hume's empiricist approach to logic would strongly suggest so...
Chuckle chuckle...
Yes Voice, I see. We have Costco here.
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0£12.49 ex VAT for each 2.99kg box. Movie theatre butter flavour even.
Sounds yum! Especially the ingredients: Popping Corn, Palm Oil, Salt, Natural Flavour, Colour (Annatto), Antioxidant (Mixed Tocopherols).
Yum.... but where's the actual butter? All the way from the United States and you don't even get REAL butter!!
Myself..... A$4 per kilo from the Chinese lady at the Vic Market. Ingredients? 100% Australian grown corn.
At £1.93 per kilo compared to your £4.16 per kilo, that fake butter sure is expensive.
A Costco customer ;-) , probably a plasterer then or possibly runs a Mr Whippy ice cream van… :-)))
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72 roly-poly
Dec 21st, 2015 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheap? No, but probably less if you buy in bulk from Costco.
How many kilos do you eat??
And at more than twice the price of corn and butter, how much premium priced Palm oil and salt do you consume????
Walking candidate for hypertension!!
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/palm-oil-health-hazards-7375.html
(72) Mr. Voice
Dec 21st, 2015 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please disregard the gastronomic ignorance of the various Anglo Turnips posting here...
The more than 7.000 years old recipee for the American Palomitas de Maiz aka Popcorn uses, of course, vegetable, not animal fats...
The use of butter is just a recent Anglo Bata-Kusai variation...
Popcorn! Gastronomy? Bahahahaha
Dec 21st, 2015 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well, what can you expect from someone who lives on a diet of deep fried Mars Bars and cheap Scotch?
Turnips? Well at least the vegetable kind are tasty and healthy!
Pelotudos both..
Gads, Think's fail is almost painful.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0He does realise who is eating the butter flavoured popcorn with unnamed flavours and food colouring? Not knowing what those flavours are is actual gastronomic ignorance.
The butter I use might not be traditional but at least it is real. Cut off the block at Curds and Wheys also at the Queen Vic.
Should have stuck to your latest cut and paste jobs.
@79 AvoiceofThink
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“... a recent Anglo Bata-Kusai variation...”
Could voice aka Think, be any more wrong or less relevant??
I can't 'think' that any of the ingredients below have been used in the past 7,000 years...
Palm Oil, Natural Flavour, Colour (Annatto), Antioxidant (Mixed Tocopherols).
Palm Oil is actually LESS healthy than Animal fats, and the production of Palm Oil is harmful to the environment.
Gastronomy has been mentioned here in connection with bloody popcorn which is a food substitute for Chavs!
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really!?
@ 67 ElaineB
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having read your latest 'missive' I have concluded the following:
1) you still do not understand what the nature of the publication of the photographs, either because you still have the pink mist over your eyes OR you are obfuscating the truth;
2) as long as you do not post untruthful comments about me OR lie about what I have said I will no longer post to you. At 69 my life expectancy (~10 years) is shorter than your period of neurotic behaviour.
As I have said at least twice before: THE ANSWER LIES IN YOUR HANDS. (no pun intended on the lies).
@84 Oh, Chris, give it up. It is not a photograph of me. I have never been bottle-blonde or worn an Alice band. This fantasy you have of me being middle-aged just so you can use menopause as the reason for me disagreeing with you is simply insane. I disagree with you when I don't like the content and tone of your posts. (I am glad you now refrain from frequent references to anal sex and 'blow-jobs').
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have said at least twice before: IT IS NOT A PHOTOGRAPH OF ME. It does not fit any kind of description of me. ElaineB is not my real name. You think I am a bureaucrat but I am not. You think I am middle-aged but I am not. You are wrong about it all. You have weaved a weird fantasy based on false assumptions; which is peculiar in itself. That you discuss my posts with other people is plain strange. You are obsessed.
But most concerning, given your advanced age, is that you trying to find photographs of me makes you an old pervert. Give it up. You cannot dictate how or when I post on this message board. You cannot control it. You cannot dictate terms. If you choose to ignore my posts it is fine by me.
Try to get some perspective. This is a message board. It is not real life. Nothing said here should impact on your life in any way. It is the cyber world. When you leave the board just let it go. You can't get validation here because it is an unreal environment. Look at all the nutters that post here and use multiple names or sign-ins. Or just use the place to vent their frustration at life or expose unconscionable views. There are really just a handful of reasonable posters that contribute so to expect any kind of validation here is looking in the wrong place.
81/82
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for your concern for my health...
..but I think I'll take it with a dash of palm oil and a pinch of salt....
...bub boom....
Popcorn for gastronomes :-
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Put 8 sheets of nori, 2 tbsp of roasted black sesame, 2 tbsp roasted white sesame and 2 tbsp of roasted sesame seeds in a food processor and blitz add 2 tbsp of sumac and 1 tsp of chilli flakes. Add this to your corn with light olive oil and butter.
Then pop it.
THAT is popcorn for gastronomes.
If you are a chav, just do what the VoiceofThink does. Doh!
Isn't it time for your afternoon nap Gramps...?
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope that Elaine doesn't include herself in the list of “reasonable” posters.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its hysterical
Its neurotic
Its a troll
It has no idea how nutty it is.
You can add me to the list of believing its a Think persona.
89
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm going to help you with a basic principle here...
If it's possible to insert “is” after “It” then you need to follow “It” with an apostrophe....'s.....
“It's”
It's hysterical
It's neurotic
It's a troll
...don't thank me...it's all part of the service....
90. Nobody cares and it just shows your age.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep trolling
I think Elaine was grammar trolling me last week too
figures...
@86
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shows us he's not as clever as he 'thinks' he is.
VoiceofThink - not clever, a chav living in a damp dump, just smarting from his experiences on the Falkland Islands and sore after all his nearest and dearest walked out. Sad old git.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grammar Troll @90
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make mistakes too, you half- witted attention whore.
We don't always point it out, as it's not worth going to the effort.
Get a life!
93
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you just awaken from your afternoon nap Gramps...? Should be aboot time for your evening nap...
HEY GRAMPS...DID YOU HEAR THAT...!!!?
Oh dear he's nodded off again....
@ 89 yankeeboy
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no helping her: she KNOWS what she knows and doesn't need “creeps” like me stating the truth of the matter.
So I have given up. It's like the comment attributed to Einstein (but I think he was not the originator):
“When you do something and it doesn't work and you do it again and it doesn't work only the feeble minded keep doing it, expecting it to work”
So you are on your own with her now!
Good luck with that.
96. Thanks but no thanks.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That bitter old troll can keep her/his ranting to her/himself.
BTW science has proved liberals are filthy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/22/the-clever-trick-donald-trump-was-playing-when-he-called-hillary-clintons-bathroom-visit-too-disgusting/
Just like I have been saying.
:)
Willy VoiceofThink, isnt it time you headed for the pub - barred, Combined Sevices - banned, Yacht Club - rejected, not posh enough, Golf Club - black balled. Oh well, its the supermarket tinnies and the chuppie (no woman could stand him) again…
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YB,
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am interested to hear your opinions on SA, and sometimes I even agree with them, or it gives me pause to think more about the subjects.
However, many of your posts are extremely and needlessly offensive, and I can't fathom why you say such things.
With your recent behaviour, if I had to put money on either you or ElaineB being a Think puppet, I would say it's you.
TWIMC...
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always wondered why, none of the habitué paranoid beacons of Engrish, Kanuk, Yankee & Ozzie Turnipidity in here ever suspected that Turnip Surprise...: “Troy Tempest” to be one of El Think's sockpuppets... (I even gave it a Super Marionet name!)
Hume's empiricist approach to logic would strongly suggest so...
Chuckle chuckle...
99. Speak of the devil and he doth appear
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I only post under this persona and my posts are as offensive as I want them to be.
You have the choice not to read them or respond to them. I couldn't care less.
I only go after people that go after me first and I won't back down until they do.
Sorry folks...
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fred Bates, Watchington DC aka Yankiboy is like Chuckie...
A puppet out of control...
Oh geez here we go again.
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Disgusting troll
With nothing better to do
Is it Elaine, Voice, Marcos, Vestige
Who do we have now?
Oh the original
It used to be a Scandanavian Marxist Retornado.
Who knows what it is now
Failed at life, failed at work, just plain failed...
If that's me how come I've never got a call or email?
I've been waiting a long time
loser
It's Scand“I”navian, Chuckie..., Scand“I”navian...
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever, grammar troll
Dec 22nd, 2015 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're certainly sticking to your type
Elaine then Voice now you.
What a surprise
Email me.
Call me
Fcking Loser.
101 YB
Dec 23rd, 2015 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed you are free to post/write whatever you like.
Just as others will remark and draw conclusions about you based on those posts.
“I don't care” - well, your personal insults and angry responses seem to say different.
106. Troy, you're misreading my posts if you think they are angry. I only go after those that go after me first or but in when they're not wanted.
Dec 23rd, 2015 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I seriously don't care what anyone on this board thinks.
I am here for pure entertainment purposes.
Doing nothing more than wasting my time.
The same as everyone else.
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